Savethebestforu said: your denying yourself right now. stop denying your self. without loli the world doesn''t spin and the sun explodes. go read lolita you infidel.ilovewendy16 said: No, it doesn't. Those scenes are meant to be erotic. if you didn't like them, that is what would be weird. Everyone else are just denying themselves.  This may be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. I actually applaud you for making me laugh out loud. |
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D-ohnuts said: About some bitchy prepubescent girl that literally forced herself on some pansy middle-aged dude who just happened to have strange attraction to prepubescent girls, amirite? Can't see how it's related to liking some unrealistic drawn children.Did you know that the word lolicon comes from "lolita complex"? Guess what the book Lolita is actually about. |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: Tsk tsk, if you think these two look one bit different then I'll keep telling you they're the same until you cave in and identify as a pedophile.D-ohnuts said: About some bitchy prepubescent girl that literally forced herself on some pansy middle-aged dude who just happened to have strange attraction to prepubescent girls, amirite? Can't see how it's related to liking some unrealistic drawn children.Did you know that the word lolicon comes from "lolita complex"? Guess what the book Lolita is actually about.  |
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Mylen_Ploa said: It's just some sad no-life wannabe-trolls trying to do it to fellow anime fans just for shit and gigs.With all the shit mainstream news does to paint anime fans as pedophiles I never would have imagined that anime fans would start doing it do others. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
| You guys should understand that lolicon not always = paedophile. Loli is a peitie girl with apperance of younger than she actually is, like teacher from Noucome. Would you call someone who finds her attractive a pedophile? Basically lolicon does not care about age. Take for example Shuntarou Sako from Papakiki. This is clearly a creepy paedophile. He even notices that Sora is "too old", despite being only 14. |
PiromyslApr 20, 2016 10:50 AM
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| Why is it there is such strong sense of denial within anime community? I think by liking anime itself is not considered normal, you're like this person trapped forever in chunnibyou mode, you are a man-children according to society norms. |
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On_the_Lam said: Does pausing a dick shot make you gay? Probably. I swear to god I was just comparing sizes. |
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Mylen_Ploa said: Are you bloody kidding me, luv? It's MAL, too many people here looks at 4chan's /a/ and /b/ as examples to follow. Why did this "minimal characters limit for post excluding image code" has been introduced, do you think? Because too many users used to "reply" with just "meme" picture or "lol", "XD", "no u" and other "AIB-like" crap. Do you honestly believe that something like what azzuRe said is how people really think? Than what he's doing here? Self-deprecation much? No, I don't buy it. I can believe that people can be honestly stupid but not this.But it's not trolling. There's genuine belief here, even in this thread, that honestly baffles me. But, as always, the thing is that actually majority of MAL users just don't give a slightest damn about it, Hell, they probably even don't know about this thread. And it's totally understandable - MAL's forums is so toxic that it's hard for any normal person stay here long. So the most active users here is usually green wannabe-trolls of varying size and fatness. If you see a MAL user with really big post count - take it with a grain of salt. It's not like every active poster here trolling or joking all the time, but you need to always take this into account. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
| being sexually attracted to children and wanting to have sex with them makes you a pedophile. You're attracted to innocence. You like the idea of purity being dirty. You like the idea of an innocent girl sexualizing themselves for you. Thats just normal fantasy. but youre projecting that urge into cartoons of little girls being raped and i dont know why. If you do have urges to have sex with children then you have some kind of brain disorder usually based around the act of procreation. Sex=procreation/children, When you see a child=turned on , because of the driving force to want to procreate. Then some kind of cross connection in your brain that skips the having sex with a fully grown woman to have kids to wanting to have sex with kids. Usually because of inability to find a partner. You see? your brain missed a step. Oh right, imagination. I forgot. Yes cartoons are just cartoons and your imagination is your own to play with as you want. But only you know what is in your mind. You're consciously looking at images of children that are sexualized. Does not matter if those images are cartoons. The image being presented is of a child, and that child is being sexualized by you the viewer. if you enjoy it then you entertain the idea that sexualizing children could be enjoyable. Yes, robbing a bank would be enjoyable, yes riding around in a stolen car killing my enemies would be really enjoyable too, if you can get away with it. I Actually in GTA5, about 20 minuets into the game you have to kidnap a pimp, at one point he talks about popping a pill in a hookers ass because she wont have sex with him and making her like it that hes about to force himself sexually on to her. You see that happens in real life. you see that happens in real life like a lot. its art imitating life. No child was hurt in the making of it nothing happend > its just a cartoon reimaging of one of the worst things to have ever happend ever and then, the schadenfreude of it makes you enjoy the idea of it too. youre enjoying watching the image of a child having things happen to them that shouldnt. And you actively seek that out too. really except in your head and its in your head where you live, its where you have to spend the rest of your life. And if thats the kind of reality you want in your head nobody can stop you. And honestly as long as it stays in your head, think whatever you want . Its when it starts to actually hurt the world is when its a problem. If its guilt then thats another issue. |
BlackheartApr 20, 2016 4:54 PM
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Zombie_Pegasus said: If you would prefer to have a child of the opposite sex over a child of the same sex then you are a pedophile. StefanHere said: I know Zombie_Pegasus was joking, but it serves to illustrate a point. Pedophiles are attracted to children, without regard to gender. So heterosexual males who find 2D lolis but not shotas appealing don't really fit the description of pedophilia as an orientation.so many future lingering pedophiles trying to justify their sexual attraction to the underdeveloped female body hilarious Also, drawings of fictional female characters =/= "the underdeveloped female body." |
| Oh MAL, never change. Never ever change. |
| I don't since my pantsu are much more prettier than the shit lolis wear :P But yea 'getting a better look' kinda pings the pedo radar. |
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Bobby2Hands said: On_the_Lam said: Does pausing a dick shot make you gay? Probably. I swear to god I was just comparing sizes. Futas are the worst. There is nothing manly about them, yet they have dicks so large it's useless to compare. That time in futabu when one of the futas came buckets (they actually had a whole lot of buckets full of her semen) would make any man feel inadequate. Or roll on the floor laughing. Fintan said: You all know if you're a pedophile or not, being light heart'd and joking around doesn't fool people. They can pretty much prove if you're a pedophile by using pulse readings while questioning and brain scans while you're being shown images. I'm 100% positive that most of you claiming "I only like 2d lolis" would be shown for what you are. 1) Do I need to remind you that polygraph is pseudoscience and not admissible in court? 2) Once again, lasterrending said: Pedophilia has a very precise clinical definition, and everyone on this thread is getting it wrong. For instance, someone sexually attracted to children is not necessarily a pedophile. He has to be attracted mainly to children for it to be true. And anybody who denies it is evil. |
| I have fapped to characters with child-like bodies but I'm not attracted to real children in any sort of way. Anime characters are nothing like real children. Liking something in fiction doesn't mean you will like it real life. Inb4 I get called a pedophile. |
Just gonna post this meme here. ( No offense ) I'm one of the pedos |
Why do we have to live in such a cruel world?  |
For those of us who don't live in USA, what's the point of this photo? Is this african-american supposed to look untrustworthy? |
Does rewatching the Illya dance from Fate/Kaleid more than once count? Then no, because I, an asexual fifteen year old, does that.  |
flannan said: For those of us who don't live in USA, what's the point of this photo? Is this african-american supposed to look untrustworthy? If you misunderstood. This is the original video nothings wrong with the african-american its a meme |
Why do we have to live in such a cruel world? |
JewellTH said: Does rewatching the Illya dance from Fate/Kaleid more than once count? Then no, because I, an asexual fifteen year old, does that Illya dance ;) You mean this? I haven't watched the series but this site is so addicting, the music especially @ExTamplier feel free to test your inner desire fam ;) |
| I wouldn't think so OP the term means predators and actual acts on real children from what I recall. If doing that makes you a pedo then surely enjoying the Saw movies makes us all serial killers. Fintan said: Lie detectors have been used in court cases Very rarely under certain circumstances. Lie detectors in 99% of cases are inadmissible of evidence in almost all courts bar a few American states. Just pointing that out. In a criminal trial, where a jury must be convinced of the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury relies on physical evidence and circumstantial evidence as well as the testimony of witnesses. The evidence is presented in court and the witnesses are almost always physically present so that the jury can assess their credibility. But jurors are not qualified to assess the reliability of polygraph evidence or the validity of interpretations and judgments made by polygraph operators. The only real time they can be allowed to use polygraph's in court is for people who have already been convicted. They can be used then to ascertain their reform during parole and early release hearings. |
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Fintan said: Lie detectors have been used in court cases, research a bit before you respond. Also calling it "pseudoscience" is just false, they're not 100% that's why it's up to the judge to take the evidence on case by case basis. That fact is they are accurate the majority of the time when conducted properly and by people who know what they're doing. Saying brain scans and functions are also "pseudoscience" is just laughable. Computers work. Even if my mother is operating one. Things that require a specially trained monkey don't work - they are a big scam by specially trained monkeys. See also: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Polygraph Brain scans don't prove anything. Because we know almost nothing of the way our brains work. Fintan said: You can all convince other "lolicons" that you're fine, but I know each of you knows the truth and that you're just simply trying to hide the disgusting truth. I don't think 2d=real life, but nothing is that simple. People who get off to these hentai that have little kids getting raped and fucked are obviously likely to be into real children. The legality of it just gives them an opportunity to speak freely about it without legal action or being outcasts(well more of an outcast). The only place any of you will win this type of argument is in a forum like this where your own kind is the people you're discussing it with. Also anime fans fear that if this was covered more there innocent anime would be caught up in it, which is understandable. Nothing should be illegal about drawings no matter what they depict, but denying the obviousness of a person getting off to drawings of children being molested also being a pedophile is just disgusting. No, you are disgusting. You heap accusations on innocent people. |
| if you trying to find it on usagi drop, i would said yes. |
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| http://mrlorgin.deviantart.com/art/Please-Do-Not-Do-That-570803915 Just... straight up, doing this means that at the very least you have paedophilic tendencies. |
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| I have a better question: does cringing at pantsushot on the cover of 1st Vol. of Nanoha DVD makes me anti-lolicon? P.S. Sorry, I just needed to take it out, discovered it recently and still a bit traumatized. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
Fintan said: People who get off to these hentai that have little kids getting raped and fucked are obviously likely to be into real children. Research into fantasy vs reality sexual and violence says otherwise. Certainly, there is no evidence that having sexual fantasies during sex or at other times leads to any sort of untoward or abnormal behavior. Let me say that again, sexual fantasies do not lead to pedophilia or other sexual crimes. If someone actually acts out in real life certain fantasies that are repugnant to most people, that person can be said to have a perversion. These are, by definition, deviant, and usually engaged in obsessively. They may involve pieces of apparel, such as socks or underwear, or animals, or particular acts, such as washing with urine or even drinking urine. Plainly, some perversions, such as pedophilia or rape, injure other people and are, therefore, criminal. But I want to say again that these are overt acts and do not usually grow out of engaging in such fantasies. Behaviors can be said to be ethical or unethical, but not thoughts. Sexual behavior is wrong when someone is hurt. There is an ongoing controversy about whether or not pornography contributes to the likelihood of sexual misbehavior or other difficulties, such as a lack of interest in ordinary human sexual interaction. This dispute has been going on for decades and will probably not be decided definitively simply because the subject is so charged. However, I think it is fair to say that, as of now, there is no convincing evidence that pornography is bad for anyone. Watching pornography does not seem to contribute to violent sexual behavior, for instance. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/fighting-fear/201404/sexual-fantasies Basically like enjoying violent movies and video games the connection to reality is not strong enough to show evidence that fantasy leads to reality and the connection of real perverse acts and crime to fiction and fantasy is knowledgeable enough for the human brain to know the difference and react differently. Its why we can enjoy someones head exploding in a movie and be repulsed by ISIS decapitation video's. How someone can love bondage porn and yet wince and cringe if they even accidentally hurt their lover during intercourse. In fact sexual violence has decreased during the age of pornography. Basically the people that partake in fantasy arousal are not the same people who partake in reality sexual violence and abuse. They are totally different individuals. Thats not to say theres no crossover but in most cases its people who are violent or into harmful sexual acts in reality that partake in fantasy but they are usually already guilty of real life crime and perversions before that. Rather than the other way around that people exclusively into a fantasy will become the type to engaging in the reality acts. Thats where much of societies confusion comes in. Even the parts of the brain stimulated during fantasy vs reality are different. The person engaged in real life abhorrent acts are been stimulated differently to someone watching some cartoon depiction of similar violence. Its easy to get caught up in generalized societal outrage that because someone see's something as similar to something we hate that its the same but science is slowly proving that consistently not the case and I don't argue with the science over socially created bias and feelings. Most of us already know that fantasy violence in movies and video games do not equate real life violence or even the type of personalty drawn to real life violence. We are not repulsed or hating on people who admit they like the Saw movies as if they were literally serial killers in waiting. Eventually it will be the same for sexual fantasy as well, because they are the same. Fintan said: Again, I could give to shits what is said here because the rest of society would not agree with any of you. That's what matters If that were true then stoning homosexuals in some parts of the world is right and ok. Because that society agrees with it. No what really matters is facts, the science, the truth. Not public opinion. Public opinion has been shown over the many many years humans have been around to be consistently wrong and emotionally driven. We chemically castrated gays as late as 70 years ago based on social opinions finding it ok at the time. Public opinion changes over times and sways with current popularity. Science and hard facts don't. They either just get acknowledged and become public opinion or are ignored for a more favorable fantasy. Understand I approch these topics from a cold and critical perspective. I have no emotional outbursts or investment in things. Had I found evidence supporting yours and peoples similar views on the subject I would have submitted that they were true. I didn't couldn't and the science doesn't back up opinion. So I will side with the actual truth regardless of public opinion. Opinion can be wrong, this isn't. People who indulge in violent or sexual fantasy are 99% not the same people who engaging in reality violence and sexual violence. The same way a man who is an ordinary citizen but enjoys a good gore film is not the same individual in mind as the thug who beats homeless people to death for fun. Mentally they are totally different wiring and individuals. Fantasy violence in the human mind is not recognized or connected with reality. Basically most people are selling the human brain short to allow their emotional and misguided outrage to spill from real criminals to innocent people. Its just not supported by the facts. |
SpooksApr 21, 2016 7:51 AM
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kamisama751 said: not certainly pantsu scane, but no pantsu when it's almost visible.Kuma said: if you trying to find it on usagi drop, i would said yes. Are there any pantsu scenes in Usagi drop? |
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lasterrending said: What are you talking about? Trolls can't provide any actual evidence.Still waiting for someone to offer any actual evidence that attraction to 2D loli = attraction to real children instead of simply restating their opinion with an ever more condescending tone... Anyone? Anyone? (crickets chirping) |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
ZickZack said: JewellTH said: Does rewatching the Illya dance from Fate/Kaleid more than once count? Then no, because I, an asexual fifteen year old, does that Illya dance ;) You mean this? I haven't watched the series but this site is so addicting, the music especially Yes, I used to watch this site 24/7 but a friend of mine told me it sucked and for some reason, I stopped watching after that.  |
Fintan said: Anything that requires special training, doesn't work!? WTF, are you serious?! That was dramatic exaggeration. Bicycles still work. Still, if a machine needs a human to produce a binary result, something is badly wrong. Chances are, it's no better than dowsing or a crystal ball. I'm a science and technology person, and experiment methodology is very important to me. |
| yup yup. Calling the cops meanwhile. |
Mefke said: yup yup. Calling the cops meanwhile. Too late. See comment #55, it was funnier. |
flannan said: Mefke said: yup yup. Calling the cops meanwhile. Too late. See comment #55, it was funnier. Funny what funny? I actually did it. And they said they need a moment to get his ip. |
lasterrending said: The arguments against it are never rational, just heavily emotional "I know it becuz we all know it becuz I think its gross bcuz i dont like it bcuz no boobs bcuz thats so important in life bcuz!"Still waiting for someone to offer any actual evidence that attraction to 2D loli = attraction to real children instead of simply restating their opinion with an ever more condescending tone... Anyone? Anyone? (crickets chirping) Trust me, I've tried to have intelligible discourse about this topic hundreds of times and no one from the opposition will ever provide a worthwhile argument. Which is why we have only one course of action.  |
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Ratohnhaketon said: lasterrending said: The arguments against it are never rational, just heavily emotional "I know it becuz we all know it becuz I think its gross bcuz i dont like it bcuz no boobs bcuz thats so important in life bcuz!"Still waiting for someone to offer any actual evidence that attraction to 2D loli = attraction to real children instead of simply restating their opinion with an ever more condescending tone... Anyone? Anyone? (crickets chirping) Trust me, I've tried to have intelligible discourse about this topic hundreds of times and no one from the opposition will ever provide a worthwhile argument. Which is why we have only one course of action. Okay, I understand now. I was under the mistaken impression that people who make blatant accusations have a reason for their beliefs and that if I were to use reason and logic they would be obligated to do the same and we could have a meaningful discussion. I see now that it's much easier to make unsubstantiated claims and call people names. So to everyone who thinks lolicon=pedophile, YOU"RE STUPID! That felt good. Who knew it could be so easy? |
| If you pause to look back at a little cartoon girls panties then you're a borderline pedophile. There's no other way to look at it. |
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lasterrending said: Ratohnhaketon said: The arguments against it are never rational, just heavily emotional "I know it becuz we all know it becuz I think its gross bcuz i dont like it bcuz no boobs bcuz thats so important in life bcuz!" Trust me, I've tried to have intelligible discourse about this topic hundreds of times and no one from the opposition will ever provide a worthwhile argument. Which is why we have only one course of action. Okay, I understand now. I was under the mistaken impression that people who make blatant accusations have a reason for their beliefs and that if I were to use reason and logic they would be obligated to do the same and we could have a meaningful discussion. I see now that it's much easier to make unsubstantiated claims and call people names. So to everyone who thinks lolicon=pedophile, YOU"RE STUPID! That felt good. Who knew it could be so easy? lolicon literally means the same thing as pedophile...In Japan, people often call known pedophiles...lolicons. |
| @lasterrending In addition to what Fintan said, the term loli comes from the Spanish word "lolita", literally meaning "sexually attractive underaged girl". |
lasterrending said: I did not know there are people that ignorant, who don't even know what lolicon means in english.Ratohnhaketon said: The arguments against it are never rational, just heavily emotional "I know it becuz we all know it becuz I think its gross bcuz i dont like it bcuz no boobs bcuz thats so important in life bcuz!" Trust me, I've tried to have intelligible discourse about this topic hundreds of times and no one from the opposition will ever provide a worthwhile argument. Which is why we have only one course of action. Okay, I understand now. I was under the mistaken impression that people who make blatant accusations have a reason for their beliefs and that if I were to use reason and logic they would be obligated to do the same and we could have a meaningful discussion. I see now that it's much easier to make unsubstantiated claims and call people names. So to everyone who thinks lolicon=pedophile, YOU"RE STUPID! That felt good. Who knew it could be so easy? |
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Fintan said: In Japan, people call stuff like Spongebob, Simpsons, and Frozen "anime" -- should we start doing the same just because they do?lolicon literally means the same thing as pedophile...In Japan, people often call known pedophiles...lolicons. |
ExTamplier said: lasterrending said: I did not know there are people that ignorant, who don't even know what lolicon means in english.Okay, I understand now. I was under the mistaken impression that people who make blatant accusations have a reason for their beliefs and that if I were to use reason and logic they would be obligated to do the same and we could have a meaningful discussion. I see now that it's much easier to make unsubstantiated claims and call people names. So to everyone who thinks lolicon=pedophile, YOU"RE STUPID! That felt good. Who knew it could be so easy? I know what it means. It's a shortened version of "lolita complex" i.e. an obsession with young girls. I was using the term as it applies to anime, because, you know, this is an anime forum. And again, I suggest that if "lolicon" is synonymous with "pedophile" that we need a new term to distinguish those attracted to anime lolis from those attracted to real children. (Plus I was being sarcastic, but apparently I'm not as witty as I thought) |
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