| Certain people take things seriously~ xD |
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| Because they're dumb and probably prefer "S-S-S-SORRY I PUT MAH HAND IN YO BOOB!" and "W-W-WOAH S-S-SORRY I L-L-LOOKED AT YOUR P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-" type guys such as 99% of harem protags. |
aikaflip said: When ever I see a perverted character in an anime, like Ryousuke in Dakara Boku wa, I usually just want them to calm the fuck down. They're annoying and embarrassing. I agree. It's usually like their one defining feature and it's so annoying. I mean if being a little perverted was part of their character I'd be ok with it, but if your reason for being is tits and ass, then the actions they take are going to be just... annoying. Extremely so. |
Melkaticox said: Because they're dumb and probably prefer "S-S-S-SORRY I PUT MAH HAND IN YO BOOB!" and "W-W-WOAH S-S-SORRY I L-L-LOOKED AT YOUR P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-" type guys such as 99% of harem protags. Eh? No. Can't we just have harem protags like Ryner Lute, Mononobe Yuu, Layfon, Koujou Akatsuki and Akuto Sai? Like... they're just popular with girls because they're decent people, and while they get embarassed they're not the stuttering dunces of the amaenadeyo and chobits era protagonist. Pervert protagonists are absolutely annoying. They're usually hated by the girls around them except for when they do one good thing and it's like "oh he's got one good side to him after all." It's so annoying because I want to like them, but the way they act and their motives just make me hate them. The word pervert does have a negative connotation for a reason. |
TitanAnteus said: Melkaticox said: Because they're dumb and probably prefer "S-S-S-SORRY I PUT MAH HAND IN YO BOOB!" and "W-W-WOAH S-S-SORRY I L-L-LOOKED AT YOUR P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-" type guys such as 99% of harem protags. Eh? No. Can't we just have harem protags like Ryner Lute, Mononobe Yuu, Layfon, Koujou Akatsuki and Akuto Sai? Like... they're just popular with girls because they're decent people, and while they get embarassed they're not the stuttering dunces of the amaenadeyo and chobits era protagonist. Pervert protagonists are absolutely annoying. They're usually hated by the girls around them except for when they do one good thing and it's like "oh he's got one good side to him after all." It's so annoying because I want to like them, but the way they act and their motives just make me hate them. The word pervert does have a negative connotation for a reason. Some characters are great for being terrible people. |
Melkaticox said: TitanAnteus said: Eh? No. Can't we just have harem protags like Ryner Lute, Mononobe Yuu, Layfon, Koujou Akatsuki and Akuto Sai? Like... they're just popular with girls because they're decent people, and while they get embarassed they're not the stuttering dunces of the amaenadeyo and chobits era protagonist. Pervert protagonists are absolutely annoying. They're usually hated by the girls around them except for when they do one good thing and it's like "oh he's got one good side to him after all." It's so annoying because I want to like them, but the way they act and their motives just make me hate them. The word pervert does have a negative connotation for a reason. Some characters are great for being terrible people. I... don't understand. How can you want your lead character... The character you follow around through the story be an insufferable douche that you want to punch in the face whenever anything remotely sexual comes up. |
Nagirah said: You dont have to like them mate. They are design to laugh at LoLBecause I can't understand their feelings, they tend to be complete creeps and they even sexually harass the girls. Am I supposed to like a character like that? |
EsperApr 7, 2016 12:31 AM
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| They just don't like perverted characters i guess, and they may find them "weird" or "disturbing" |
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Melkaticox said: Because they're dumb and probably prefer "S-S-S-SORRY I PUT MAH HAND IN YO BOOB!" and "W-W-WOAH S-S-SORRY I L-L-LOOKED AT YOUR P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-" type guys such as 99% of harem protags. I don't know what your life was like, but I just don't find people who go out of their way to peek at girls relatable. Boys getting embarrassed is a lot more realistic to me. TitanAnteus said: Eh? No. Can't we just have harem protags like Ryner Lute, Mononobe Yuu, Layfon, Koujou Akatsuki and Akuto Sai? Like... they're just popular with girls because they're decent people, and while they get embarassed they're not the stuttering dunces of the amaenadeyo and chobits era protagonist. Yeah, they're the best. It's easy to believe these characters would be popular. TitanAnteus said: Melkaticox said: Some characters are great for being terrible people. I... don't understand. How can you want your lead character... The character you follow around through the story be an insufferable douche that you want to punch in the face whenever anything remotely sexual comes up. Some people say they can't take an ecchi anime seriously. I find it hard to take an anime with a bad/evil protagonist seriously. Comedy works like Slayers and Disgaia are the only ones where MC can be a bad person. |
| They're obviously jealous of the mc getting all the girls ofc. heh. |
rebornnora said: OP i find clitches mc that fight for their friends are too boring. perverted mc i have see is better. You are the OP. Did you not notice that? :D |
| Because they creep me out. I wouldn't want to deal with them in real life so why would I want to watch them in anime? I don't mind characters occasionally having sexual thoughts, flirting with consenting adult characters or actually having a sexual relationship with someone, I just don't want to watch characters act like horny 14 year-olds. Especially over underage characters. |
| Because it reminds them of themselves. |
Lobinde said: Not even close XD. Where'd you even get that idea?Because it reminds them of themselves. |
TitanAnteus said: aikaflip said: When ever I see a perverted character in an anime, like Ryousuke in Dakara Boku wa, I usually just want them to calm the fuck down. They're annoying and embarrassing. I agree. It's usually like their one defining feature and it's so annoying. I mean if being a little perverted was part of their character I'd be ok with it, but if your reason for being is tits and ass, then the actions they take are going to be just... annoying. Extremely so. Haha, right. Meliodas from Nanatsu no Taizai is a good example from the opposite end of this spectrum. He's a pervert, but he doesn't go insane every time he sees boobs. He's actually pretty composed and cool. |
| I think some find it unrealistic and annoying that a perv could garner the attention of so many girls when in real life obviously creeping on girls isn't gonna fly. It might even be jealousy. |
flannan said: Melkaticox said: Because they're dumb and probably prefer "S-S-S-SORRY I PUT MAH HAND IN YO BOOB!" and "W-W-WOAH S-S-SORRY I L-L-LOOKED AT YOUR P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-" type guys such as 99% of harem protags. I don't know what your life was like, but I just don't find people who go out of their way to peek at girls relatable. Boys getting embarrassed is a lot more realistic to me. is this guy for real TitanAnteus said: I... don't understand. How can you want your lead character... The character you follow around through the story be an insufferable douche that you want to punch in the face whenever anything remotely sexual comes up. Those things make the characters more entertaining. That is Always Sunny's main appeal. Konosuba follows a cast of terrible people, too. And Koni-chan. |
Melkaticox said: flannan said: I don't know what your life was like, but I just don't find people who go out of their way to peek at girls relatable. Boys getting embarrassed is a lot more realistic to me. is this guy for real TitanAnteus said: I... don't understand. How can you want your lead character... The character you follow around through the story be an insufferable douche that you want to punch in the face whenever anything remotely sexual comes up. Those things make the characters more entertaining. That is Always Sunny's main appeal. Konosuba follows a cast of terrible people, too. And Koni-chan. Konosuba's cast isn't terrible. They're quirky to say the least. Also yes he's for real. Going out of your way to peek at girls makes you less relatable to me. Having NO sex drive on the other hand is also no good. |
TitanAnteus said: Melkaticox said: is this guy for real Those things make the characters more entertaining. That is Always Sunny's main appeal. Konosuba follows a cast of terrible people, too. And Koni-chan. Konosuba's cast isn't terrible. -A goddess of water makes fun of the MC for dying in a ridiculous way (in contrast to the other goddess, so had a lot more sympathy for him). -Kazuma drags Aqua to another world where she's stripped of most of her powers (sometimes). -Kazuma is constantly abusing Aqua verbally. -MC learns Steal, steals three of the girls' panties by accident. Never apologizes, waving the panties around in one instance. -Darkness is a masochistic knight who's always trying to get herself in dangerous situations to feel pleasure. -Megumin and Kazuma practice explosion on a perfectly fine castle. Every. Single. Day. -When the dullahan tries to find the guilty of the castle's daily explosions Megumin tries to sneak out, until someone else almost "hogs" her glory, which is when she decides to reveal herself in the most chuuni way possible. -When Aqua is attacked by giant crocodiles her teammates don't seem at all concerned for her safety, leaving her to fend off for herself in the cage. -Kazuma steals another reincarnated person's sole means of survival in the world. Then sells it. I could go on. |
Melkaticox said: TitanAnteus said: Konosuba's cast isn't terrible. -A goddess of water makes fun of the MC for dying in a ridiculous way (in contrast to the other goddess, so had a lot more sympathy for him). -Kazuma drags Aqua to another world where she's stripped of most of her powers (sometimes). -Kazuma is constantly abusing Aqua verbally. -MC learns Steal, steals three of the girls' panties by accident. Never apologizes, waving the panties around in one instance. -Darkness is a masochistic knight who's always trying to get herself in dangerous situations to feel pleasure. -Megumin and Kazuma practice explosion on a perfectly fine castle. Every. Single. Day. -When the dullahan tries to find the guilty of the castle's daily explosions Megumin tries to sneak out, until someone else almost "hogs" her glory, which is when she decides to reveal herself in the most chuuni way possible. -When Aqua is attacked by giant crocodiles her teammates don't seem at all concerned for her safety, leaving her to fend off for herself in the cage. -Kazuma steals another reincarnated person's sole means of survival in the world. Then sells it. I could go on. They sure aren't perfectly fine people. Probably on the level of Haganai's cast (with Kazuma and Aqua being about as bad as Yozora and Sena). Still nowhere near Rance's level of badness. They keep doing good things too, quite a lot of them. And most importantly, they have the potential to improve (just like Haganai's cast). Also, you make it sound like some of the things you list (Darkness's attitude in fights, Megumin practicing sorcery on some ruins, Megumin being chuuni) are actually bad things. P.S. Now that I think about it, Kazuma and Aqua are really quite similar to Yozora and Sena. |
| Because they have good taste, duhhh. |
 NasalShark said: I'd love to squeeze your nipples until they look like a purple slushie, Senpai. |
| Because it's something that people are not used to seeing that often. I mean how often do you get perverted, dense, bland MCs? We barely even have any of those.. People aren't open enough to try new things.. |
GesuYarou said: they are pretty often thou..............Because it's something that people are not used to seeing that often. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
Kuma said: GesuYarou said: they are pretty often thou..............Because it's something that people are not used to seeing that often. Just go through my post once for me please.. |
| They're cringeworthy, drooling idiots. What makes it even worse is a lot of them don't even go through with it when they get a chance. They'll openly drool over some tits like a baby, then run away when someone actually shows an interest in them. The better MC's are the exact opposite. They show some tact and common sense in public, but aren't afraid when it comes down to it. Obsessed with sex yet afraid of the act itself - retarded. Fine with sex but it doesn't define you, and you don't make a big deal of it in day to day life - healthy and normal. |
flannan said: Melkaticox said: -A goddess of water makes fun of the MC for dying in a ridiculous way (in contrast to the other goddess, so had a lot more sympathy for him). -Kazuma drags Aqua to another world where she's stripped of most of her powers (sometimes). -Kazuma is constantly abusing Aqua verbally. -MC learns Steal, steals three of the girls' panties by accident. Never apologizes, waving the panties around in one instance. -Darkness is a masochistic knight who's always trying to get herself in dangerous situations to feel pleasure. -Megumin and Kazuma practice explosion on a perfectly fine castle. Every. Single. Day. -When the dullahan tries to find the guilty of the castle's daily explosions Megumin tries to sneak out, until someone else almost "hogs" her glory, which is when she decides to reveal herself in the most chuuni way possible. -When Aqua is attacked by giant crocodiles her teammates don't seem at all concerned for her safety, leaving her to fend off for herself in the cage. -Kazuma steals another reincarnated person's sole means of survival in the world. Then sells it. I could go on. They sure aren't perfectly fine people. Probably on the level of Haganai's cast (with Kazuma and Aqua being about as bad as Yozora and Sena). Still nowhere near Rance's level of badness. They keep doing good things too, quite a lot of them. And most importantly, they have the potential to improve (just like Haganai's cast). Also, you make it sound like some of the things you list (Darkness's attitude in fights, Megumin practicing sorcery on some ruins, Megumin being chuuni) are actually bad things. P.S. Now that I think about it, Kazuma and Aqua are really quite similar to Yozora and Sena. -Being a masochist is considered a bad thing, I'm not sure why you think it's not. -Megumin being chuuni is not the point, is her trying to remain hidden until she thought people were accusing the other girl of being powerful enough to destroy a castle multiple times (the castle wasn't even delapidated, it looked perfectly fine before she practiced on it, so it's not "some ruins"). She's the strongest explosion magic user etc. -Most of the good things they do are done for their own benefit. -God no, don't let them improve. Plenty of people love the show for its cast of terrible people. Take that away and it becomes a generic "trapped in a totally-not-mmo" harem. |
| I would rather dislike having to deal with someone who is only ogling me all the time and only has sex in their mind so I naturally feel that those type of character archetypes are not appealing to me. Do far the only exception was Sakurai Tomoki from Sora no Otoshimono which took the perverted character trope and turned it up to eleven. It created some absolutely bizarre and hilarious moments in the show. |
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| well I don't think anyone'd like a pervent except pervents... |
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lifeless069 said: This. However, the ridiculously perverted MCs are always better than the sexually repressed harem MCs.Having a perverted MC tends to fill the anime with a bunch of fan service and, as a result, may impair the plot or the pacing of the anime by allotting time for stimulating scenes and its corresponding aroused reaction. However, it might not be that bad if ecchi stuffs are used moderately or forms a big part of the comedy skit |
| What Kabaneri Did Wrong: - Edgelord protagonist - Special snowflake girlfriend - Giving humans powers - Failing to create a unique/memorable setting What Kabaneri Did Right: ... |
| Ehh...because he could have a lot better things to think about when he is talking to a woman or addressing her than her body. Like honestly, people like that IRL are jerks you wouldn't want to have a conversation with so watching them for an entire series is literally torture. You can be a decent person and still be perverted in some sense, but in general decent people don't legit stare at your breasts for an entire conversation and catch shots of panties. Honestly I would not like to associate myself with anyone like that. It's funny at some parts depending on the show (like if it's strictly comedy), but honestly if it's overused it's no longer about how much I hate the main character. It just straight out makes me feel uncomfortable because that entire show is primarily fanservice. Which are shows I do not enjoy watching in general. |
Melkaticox said: -Being a masochist is considered a bad thing, I'm not sure why you think it's not. It might be uncool, but I totally fail to see why it's bad. Also, Darkness makes it cool. People who take what they like and make it their job are great. Melkaticox said: -Megumin being chuuni is not the point, is her trying to remain hidden until she thought people were accusing the other girl of being powerful enough to destroy a castle multiple times (the castle wasn't even delapidated, it looked perfectly fine before she practiced on it, so it's not "some ruins"). She's the strongest explosion magic user etc. Well, the way I see it in the anime (and I just re-watched the scene to be sure), what won over Megumin's fear isn't her desire for glory, but her desire to help the other girl. Of course, you can't face one of humanity's greatest enemies without being cool. Death Knight was pretty good at it too. Also, the castle was populated by monsters and undead, so it counts as "ruins" even if the walls still stand. Melkaticox said: -Most of the good things they do are done for their own benefit. That's how it should be. It's the world where you have to save the day for free and hide from the police afterwards that is screwed-up. I still think the reward for slaying the Death Knight was too little, given it wasn't enough to rebuild the city afterwards. The economy must be pretty bad with all the fighting going on. Melkaticox said: -God no, don't let them improve. Plenty of people love the show for its cast of terrible people. Take that away and it becomes a generic "trapped in a totally-not-mmo" harem. If they wouldn't improve, all those "no character development!" people will come crying. Also, Haganai's cast had 2 seasons of improving, and they'd need another one to get to the end of the story. That's enough, no need for super-long shows like One Piece. lifeless069 said: Having a perverted MC tends to fill the anime with a bunch of fan service and, as a result, may impair the plot or the pacing of the anime by allotting time for stimulating scenes and its corresponding aroused reaction. However, it might not be that bad if ecchi stuffs are used moderately or forms a big part of the comedy skit You've got your thinking backwards. It's the anime that is filled with fanservice that can get a pervert protagonist, not the other way around. |
| Because most perverted characters are awfully written prove me wrong |
| kill yourself |
| Mhhhh... reminds me of those other Ecchi threads that says. why other user dislike Ecchi or fan service? Mhhh... Mods should have at least put a restriction in this kinds of thread, makes other's head burst, and this sometimes can be annoying... Though, I don't know how mods can put this kind of thread a restriction, but it seems a lot of work so they just leave it like this. If any of you guys dislike Ecchi that much, or dislike the fact that the plot is cliche, you know what happens even if you're asleep, just watch Hentai... If that doesn't work... ask Google. |
| Have you seen Hagure Yuusha no Aesthetica? That MC is a pervert. I don't like if the MC is very innocent, that's annoying, but it also becomes kind of annoying when the MC it's too perverted. there has to be a balance. |
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| Perverted characters are fucken awesome because they bring a breath of fresh air =) ! |
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| Because that's barbaric and disgusting. |
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_Ako_ said: Mhhhh... reminds me of those other Ecchi threads that says. why other user dislike Ecchi or fan service? Mhhh... Mods should have at least put a restriction in this kinds of thread, makes other's head burst, and this sometimes can be annoying... Though, I don't know how mods can put this kind of thread a restriction, but it seems a lot of work so they just leave it like this. If any of you guys dislike Ecchi that much, or dislike the fact that the plot is cliche, you know what happens even if you're asleep, just watch Hentai... If that doesn't work... ask Google. Well, MAL anime discussion is pretty much the best place for such discussions. The problem is, they sometimes get repetitive. But pervert protagonists are different from ecchi in general. For example, I like ecchi, but don't like pervert protagonists. (you can read my reasons earlier in this thread) |
flannan said: _Ako_ said: Mhhhh... reminds me of those other Ecchi threads that says. why other user dislike Ecchi or fan service? Mhhh... Mods should have at least put a restriction in this kinds of thread, makes other's head burst, and this sometimes can be annoying... Though, I don't know how mods can put this kind of thread a restriction, but it seems a lot of work so they just leave it like this. If any of you guys dislike Ecchi that much, or dislike the fact that the plot is cliche, you know what happens even if you're asleep, just watch Hentai... If that doesn't work... ask Google. Well, MAL anime discussion is pretty much the best place for such discussions. The problem is, they sometimes get repetitive. But pervert protagonists are different from ecchi in general. For example, I like ecchi, but don't like pervert protagonists. (you can read my reasons earlier in this thread) I get what you mean and I know the differences between plot development and characterization. But sometime, and even me, I assume that if the genre is Ecchi, the protagonist is pervert or something along the line. Sora Otoshimono for instance... What I'm saying is that, why not go to the extreme, if you hate something like fan service/Ecchi/male protagonist that is perverted. I do agree that sometimes lurking in MAL discussions is fun, but seeing the same old thread is tiring. |
| I think it made them boring and flat characters (even if it's not true, that is the first impression) |
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| Lol pervy mcs are FAR MORE better than a dense douchebag :p |
| They sees themselves in those characters but they can never have what those characters have. |
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flannan said: Melkaticox said: -Being a masochist is considered a bad thing, I'm not sure why you think it's not. It might be uncool, but I totally fail to see why it's bad. Also, Darkness makes it cool. People who take what they like and make it their job are great. Melkaticox said: -Megumin being chuuni is not the point, is her trying to remain hidden until she thought people were accusing the other girl of being powerful enough to destroy a castle multiple times (the castle wasn't even delapidated, it looked perfectly fine before she practiced on it, so it's not "some ruins"). She's the strongest explosion magic user etc. Well, the way I see it in the anime (and I just re-watched the scene to be sure), what won over Megumin's fear isn't her desire for glory, but her desire to help the other girl. Of course, you can't face one of humanity's greatest enemies without being cool. Death Knight was pretty good at it too. Also, the castle was populated by monsters and undead, so it counts as "ruins" even if the walls still stand. Melkaticox said: -Most of the good things they do are done for their own benefit. That's how it should be. It's the world where you have to save the day for free and hide from the police afterwards that is screwed-up. I still think the reward for slaying the Death Knight was too little, given it wasn't enough to rebuild the city afterwards. The economy must be pretty bad with all the fighting going on. Melkaticox said: -God no, don't let them improve. Plenty of people love the show for its cast of terrible people. Take that away and it becomes a generic "trapped in a totally-not-mmo" harem. If they wouldn't improve, all those "no character development!" people will come crying. Also, Haganai's cast had 2 seasons of improving, and they'd need another one to get to the end of the story. That's enough, no need for super-long shows like One Piece. lifeless069 said: Having a perverted MC tends to fill the anime with a bunch of fan service and, as a result, may impair the plot or the pacing of the anime by allotting time for stimulating scenes and its corresponding aroused reaction. However, it might not be that bad if ecchi stuffs are used moderately or forms a big part of the comedy skit You've got your thinking backwards. It's the anime that is filled with fanservice that can get a pervert protagonist, not the other way around. I honestly don't feel like your comment provides much, it reads more like you're trying to excuse their bad behavior even though you apparently don't want them to be bad? Also what do you care if "no character development!!"-friends come. It's a comedy, fuck 'em. Are you really gonna include that's probablly gonna make the series worse just because you don't want to deal with a bunch of annoying people? |
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