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Jan 5, 2016 5:13 PM
#201
Jan 5, 2016 5:14 PM
#203
DatRandomDude said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/9379/Denpa_Onna_to_Seishun_Otokomoodie said: what anime is it from ?woah is me look at all the still frames and lack of animation |
Jan 5, 2016 5:29 PM
#204
Man I think a lot of the people that are dissing on Shaft and Shinbo saying they can't do slice of life need to go watch all of Hidamari Sketch, like right now. I can understand saying that you don't think their usual "style" would work for this manga, and I suppose we'll see if they change it up a bit, but as far as the genre itself goes they are absolutely capable. |
Jan 5, 2016 5:31 PM
#205
Kalanoch said: You haven't even read 3gatsu and you're calling it just a "slice of life"Man I think a lot of the people that are dissing on Shaft and Shinbo saying they can't do slice of life need to go watch all of Hidamari Sketch, like right now. smh I'm acting like a puristfag but it's honestly a very intricate series that should be modified much with "smooth animation" and fancy cinematography. Give it the most still-like art and scenery and it'll be fine. Like JC Staff with HnC. |
Jan 5, 2016 5:36 PM
#206
Mayuka said: Kalanoch said: You haven't even read 3gatsu and you're calling it just a "slice of life"Man I think a lot of the people that are dissing on Shaft and Shinbo saying they can't do slice of life need to go watch all of Hidamari Sketch, like right now. smh I'm acting like a puristfag but it's honestly a very intricate series that should be modified much with "smooth animation" and fancy cinematography. Give it the most still-like art and scenery and it'll be fine. Like JC Staff with HnC. this looks similar to something shaft would do i think the ppl in charge wanted shaft for a reason |
Jan 5, 2016 5:37 PM
#207
Mayuka said: You haven't even read 3gatsu and you're calling it just a "slice of life" I barely read manga and I'm not calling it anything, I'm responding to comments like this: TheNaturalPerm said: Oh god this is not a SHAFT show. Like not at all. Please no headtilts :( I don't trust Shinbou on this one. Can he pull off a genuine heartfelt slice of life show? I kind of doubt it. |
Jan 5, 2016 5:39 PM
#208
moodie said: I'm not a huge fan of that. It's too... Uh artsy/stylistic for the tone of the series. It would fit something like Chihayafuru which is overdramatic but 3gatsu isn't.this looks similar to something shaft would do i think the ppl in charge wanted shaft for a reason |
Jan 5, 2016 6:23 PM
#209
Kalanoch said: Mayuka said: You haven't even read 3gatsu and you're calling it just a "slice of life" I barely read manga and I'm not calling it anything, I'm responding to comments like this: TheNaturalPerm said: Oh god this is not a SHAFT show. Like not at all. Please no headtilts :( I don't trust Shinbou on this one. Can he pull off a genuine heartfelt slice of life show? I kind of doubt it. Comparing hidamari sketch to 3gatsu? God please no. Couldn't be more different. Hidamari is just a comedy slice of life about cutesy girls with no drama whatsoever and little to no character depth. I'm sure hidamari is decent at what it does and for what it is but that's not the kind of content 3gatsu is. At all. It's miles off. |
NaturalPermJan 5, 2016 6:28 PM
Jan 5, 2016 6:38 PM
#210
Personally I think the choice of studio is off. I would have preferred J.C. Staff or Production I.G. but I guess I will just have to wait. |
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Jan 5, 2016 7:07 PM
#211
Ehh, not sure if I like Shaft being in charge of the anime. As someone who really likes the source material, I rather hoped for J.C. Staff (since they perfectly animated the mangaka's previous work) or Production IG to work on the anime. Not that I have anything against Shaft or Shinbou (hell, I love what they did with SZS), but I don't think that the studio's rather unconventional style would go well with the source material. |
Jan 5, 2016 7:18 PM
#212
Keeping an eye out for this. Not gonna make any early assumptions and hope for the best. |
Jan 5, 2016 9:51 PM
#214
Kalanoch said: Mayuka said: You haven't even read 3gatsu and you're calling it just a "slice of life" I barely read manga and I'm not calling it anything, I'm responding to comments like this: TheNaturalPerm said: Oh god this is not a SHAFT show. Like not at all. Please no headtilts :( I don't trust Shinbou on this one. Can he pull off a genuine heartfelt slice of life show? I kind of doubt it. because comment like this came from ppl that actually watched many Shaft x Shinobu anime and they know mostly Shaft gonna use their signature art again. and your Hidamari comparison is pure stupid! |
IZUMI64Jan 5, 2016 9:56 PM
Jan 5, 2016 9:56 PM
#215
shuryukan said: ExtraCheeky said: shuryukan said: Where in the fuck did I use caps. Are you for real right now? kek. You're being a hypocrite. You say I judge if a certain anime has good art/animation due to a couple of scenes, yet you're dismissing an entire studio due to a handful of anime. Caps = caps lock. Or are you seriously judging me for correctly capitalizing? LOL i'm sorry what? are you bake fans all trolls? (watch i didn't cap some words this time, are you gonna call me out on that too?) I've been asking that question myself for a long ass time. It sure seems that way a lot of the time doesn't it? |
Jan 5, 2016 10:36 PM
#216
Kaioshin_Sama said: Glad u can add ur little snide remarks rather than say anything factual.shuryukan said: ExtraCheeky said: shuryukan said: Where in the fuck did I use caps. Are you for real right now? kek. You're being a hypocrite. You say I judge if a certain anime has good art/animation due to a couple of scenes, yet you're dismissing an entire studio due to a handful of anime. Caps = caps lock. Or are you seriously judging me for correctly capitalizing? LOL i'm sorry what? are you bake fans all trolls? (watch i didn't cap some words this time, are you gonna call me out on that too?) I've been asking that question myself for a long ass time. It sure seems that way a lot of the time doesn't it? Is this ur hobby? Move on the world will continue to spin and people will continue to either love or hate things. I'm surprised knowing a guy as old as urself to be utterly clueless about opinions are. |
Jan 5, 2016 11:42 PM
#217
I think fans of the manga are just disappointed because it wasn't something we expected at all. My best hope would have been adding depth to the themes of depression and loneliness that may not be very popular for an anime adaptation but work fine for the manga. Shaft doing it on the other hand promises no depth at all, the best they can do is adapt faithfully and it will make it out to be their most 'boring' story to date, or add their gimmicks which will make it appealing but still be criticised for its 'lack of story'. I'm personally expecting either of those criticism to start surfacing once the anime comes out... That's got nothing to do with Shaft themselves (i'm not a hater) nor the manga, it just that they don't mesh together. See it the other way around, if Madoka Magica was taken up by J.C staff and given crayon pastel colours and made out to be a Honey and Clover but with magical girls nihilism. It would have been silly, not the weird, creative story that is forgiven for being bad at storytelling. Ping Pong is a perfect example here, a story with so much depth into the lives and personalities of the players that it is forgiven for its unappealing experimental animation. I had hoped that of San-gatsu |
HarukaYumeJan 5, 2016 11:46 PM
Jan 6, 2016 1:57 AM
#218
shuryukan said: The "quality" things shaft has done are average, at best You genuinely live in a different world then. Animation consistence does not define art value. Ufo has lots of fluid works. Does not change the fact that their last two works are completely awful uninspired kitsch. OF course it might not reach the levels of satoshi kon or masaaki yuasa, but when it comes to the rest of industry SHAFT's works are unrivaled masterpieces with top-notch cinematography, narrative and visuals. HarukaYume said: Ping Pong is a perfect example here, a story with so much depth into the lives and personalities of the players that it is forgiven for its unappealing experimental animation. Ahahaha. Okay. And here I thought it unique and different animation is big reason why people respect it :^) |
Jan 6, 2016 2:22 AM
#219
Great news! I've been planning on reading the Manga, but now. |
Jan 6, 2016 2:47 AM
#220
Fai said: SHAFT's works are unrivaled masterpieces with top-notch cinematography, narrative and visuals. Seems like someone hasn't watched mekakucity actors. |
Jan 6, 2016 3:30 AM
#221
ExtraCheeky said: ikrsalt salt salt salt salt Ppl already getting their panties in a bunch when we dont even know what the show is gonna look like yet Ptw'd |
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Jan 6, 2016 4:20 AM
#222
ExtraCheeky said: ikrsalt salt salt salt salt I'm swimming in this thread full of salt and tears As for the show itself, I'm gonna leave it on the premier of this show or at least the PV before I gave my verdict for this series but for now this will add to my PTW. |
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Jan 6, 2016 5:39 AM
#223
NO FREAKING WAY!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT! Also Shaft.... Really hope to see something worthy the manga. |
Jan 6, 2016 8:22 AM
#224
Shaft always surprises :D |
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Jan 6, 2016 9:27 AM
#225
Mayuka said: moodie said: I'm not a huge fan of that. It's too... Uh artsy/stylistic for the tone of the series. It would fit something like Chihayafuru which is overdramatic but 3gatsu isn't.this looks similar to something shaft would do i think the ppl in charge wanted shaft for a reason I've just read all 64 chapters scanlated, to say 3gatsu isn't overdramtic is an understatement. God damn Kyoko shoving all those flashbacks on to the reader every time she makes an appearance. Rei should not do a fucking head tilt or I'll be mad. |
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Jan 6, 2016 9:32 AM
#226
FireEmblemIke24 said: It's subtly dramatic, if anything. They try to make it very mellow but still somewhat sad. Parts of it can be considered dramatic, I suppose.Mayuka said: moodie said: this looks similar to something shaft would do i think the ppl in charge wanted shaft for a reason I've just read all 64 chapters scanlated, to say 3gatsu isn't overdramtic is an understatement. God damn Kyoko shoving all those flashbacks on to the reader every time she makes an appearance. Rei should not do a fucking head tilt or I'll be mad. |
Jan 6, 2016 10:17 AM
#227
Manga sounds good. Too bad about the studio, though. |
Jan 7, 2016 10:44 AM
#229
Ahh waiting three seasons for this. Oh well |
Jan 7, 2016 11:39 AM
#230
IZUMI64 said: Haha, this is gold.Just imagine watching Titanic sinking scene with benny hill theme |
Jan 7, 2016 11:48 AM
#231
Since the show is revealed now to be Aniplex backed the SHAFT choice made perfect sense though when you consider all the elements here like NHK, high profile award winning best selling manga and who in their right mind would choose SHAFT it was obvious from the very beginning. The favoritism in this era of producer backed anime is just astounding, you can pretty much even predict the cast and possibly even composer choice already. Anyway this is why I can hardly care about most "adult/mature" looking titles anymore. Like with the big otaku bait titles Aniplex somehow always ends up with these ones too now and always finds a way to politicize the staffing, casting, promotional and other choices towards their personal favorites rather than good fits and they rarely end up realizing their potential. It's an ugly polarizing era for anime that's just oh so commercialized and did I mention polarizing lol. |
Jan 7, 2016 1:59 PM
#232
ah it turns out that the Mangaka was the one that choose Shaft and she even said either Shinbou direct it or don't do the anime adaption. It would be great if Shinbou actually direct it and not just Chief Director like he usually is. |
Jan 7, 2016 2:45 PM
#233
Dab1za9 said: source and translation?ah it turns out that the Mangaka was the one that choose Shaft and she even said either Shinbou direct it or don't do the anime adaption. It would be great if Shinbou actually direct it and not just Chief Director like he usually is. |
Jan 7, 2016 3:04 PM
#234
Mayuka said: Dab1za9 said: source and translation?ah it turns out that the Mangaka was the one that choose Shaft and she even said either Shinbou direct it or don't do the anime adaption. It would be great if Shinbou actually direct it and not just Chief Director like he usually is. Here is oricon article http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2064944/full/ she says that she loves Shaft and Shinbo work and her dream was to have her work animated by shaft and that she is very happy. |
Jan 7, 2016 6:22 PM
#235
Dab1za9 said: Mayuka said: Dab1za9 said: ah it turns out that the Mangaka was the one that choose Shaft and she even said either Shinbou direct it or don't do the anime adaption. It would be great if Shinbou actually direct it and not just Chief Director like he usually is. Here is oricon article http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2064944/full/ she says that she loves Shaft and Shinbo work and her dream was to have her work animated by shaft and that she is very happy. It's pretty interesting that she'd request Shinbou of all directors and the fact that she loves them means that she knows what she's getting herself into. It could be just simple pleasantries, but her comments seem a bit excessive for that. Apparently Shinbou tends to work closely with the author when working on anime, so maybe that was an incentive for her too. I'm still not confident that Shinbou will actually direct this, but now that he's been specifically asked for I guess there's a slight hope that he'll finally put back on his directing shoes for this one. |
Jan 7, 2016 8:45 PM
#236
Ugh. Aniplex. This is getting even worse and worse. Also, knowing Aniplex, I guess I won't be buying this one! $$$ Did Umino Chika really request Shinbo and SHAFT? I can't say I understand her decision, but if it's her own wishes, I'm not going to argue. |
Jan 7, 2016 8:50 PM
#237
Dab1za9 said: Heh. Dis gun b gud. Mayuka said: Dab1za9 said: ah it turns out that the Mangaka was the one that choose Shaft and she even said either Shinbou direct it or don't do the anime adaption. It would be great if Shinbou actually direct it and not just Chief Director like he usually is. Here is oricon article http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2064944/full/ she says that she loves Shaft and Shinbo work and her dream was to have her work animated by shaft and that she is very happy. The news gets better everytime i come in this thread. |
Jan 11, 2016 7:23 AM
#238
Dab1za9 said: ah it turns out that the Mangaka was the one that choose Shaft and she even said either Shinbou direct it or don't do the anime adaption. It would be great if Shinbou actually direct it and not just Chief Director like he usually is. Hilarious way to shit on MAL's pretensions. |
Jan 11, 2016 9:51 AM
#239
Heh, I love how people get all salty on this when the mangaka herself is the one who specifically requested this studio and director. Truth be told, I'm not familiar with this manga (as is usually the case), but at least I won't have any expectations, and it will make the manga readers' tears all the more delicious if they deem the adaptation unworthy. :D I like the Shaft and Shinbou combination, so I expect good things to come from this. |
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Jan 11, 2016 9:58 AM
#240
I like shaft so I think this will be interesting. If it will fit the series or not we'll see.... might actually read the manga before watching the series |
Jan 12, 2016 12:35 PM
#241
The comments in this thread give me cancer. I'm not the biggest fan of Shaft either (heck, according to graph.anime.plus, it's my third least favorite studio based on the weighted scores that I gave its shows), but that doesn't necessarily say anything about whether the show will be any good or not. Judging the quality of the show based on the animation studio making it is dumb, IMO. Just because the studio has made good shows doesn't mean that everything it makes is going to be good, and just because it has made bad shows doesn't mean that everything it makes is going to be bad. In other words, saying that it's going to be bad just because it'll be made by Shaft is equally as dumb as saying that it's going to be good just because it'll be made by Shaft. How about actually watching the show before making any assumptions about its quality? As for me, the most common criticism I have regarding Shaft is that it uses style over substance a lot in its shows to the detriment of every other aspect even if I liked the source material, especially in the last few years, but it has made some shows that I liked and didn't have this flaw. There's really not any way of knowing if the show will use style over substance, or if it will be good and not have this problem, so I'll just watch it and hope for the best. |
Jan 12, 2016 8:12 PM
#242
This manga tugs heartstrings with its character's conflicts and beautiful but slightly melancholic story. Don't care what studio adapts it, will watch it regardless since the source material is great. |
Jan 13, 2016 3:28 AM
#243
Seeing this title I can't help but think of the England national football team. '_' I take it the anime's not about football teams crashing out in penalty shoot-outs? :3 Seriously though, that comment above mine sounds promising alright. |
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Jan 14, 2016 5:03 AM
#244
I'm so happy that another manga series by chica umino is getting an anime that I stopped caring which studio is animating it. |
Jan 15, 2016 12:09 AM
#245
HarukaYume said: I think fans of the manga are just disappointed because it wasn't something we expected at all. My best hope would have been adding depth to the themes of depression and loneliness that may not be very popular for an anime adaptation but work fine for the manga. Shaft doing it on the other hand promises no depth at all, the best they can do is adapt faithfully and it will make it out to be their most 'boring' story to date, or add their gimmicks which will make it appealing but still be criticised for its 'lack of story'. I'm personally expecting either of those criticism to start surfacing once the anime comes out... That's got nothing to do with Shaft themselves (i'm not a hater) nor the manga, it just that they don't mesh together. See it the other way around, if Madoka Magica was taken up by J.C staff and given crayon pastel colours and made out to be a Honey and Clover but with magical girls nihilism. It would have been silly, not the weird, creative story that is forgiven for being bad at storytelling. Ping Pong is a perfect example here, a story with so much depth into the lives and personalities of the players that it is forgiven for its unappealing experimental animation. I had hoped that of San-gatsu I don't understand at all the Ping pong point... i'm a matsumoto taiyou's fan and i have been read that manga ages ago and i think that the animation was quite fair since they have like $0 budget... it would be awesome if they could do a super stunning job but although Ping pong is one of the most 'popular' matsumoto works, still not popular enough to get tones of money for an animation. Well, returning to the point , i don't know why people are just thinking in Monogataris and stuff. This manga has a lot of traditional japan environments so they have to respect it, like in Soredemo machi wa mawatteiru, or better. I don't think they do the 'minimalistic futuristic' aesthetic since it has nothing to do with this manga, and i know they can do other things too. And is true that Umino choose the studio? since shaft is not a bad studio and i think that they have more good works than bad (because of course they have bad works) is that i'm kinda excited for the anime, it's all so unexpected and i hope it goes well |
Jan 19, 2016 3:13 PM
#246
Jan 23, 2016 6:09 AM
#247
64SuperNintendo said: The comments in this thread give me cancer. As for me, the most common criticism I have regarding Shaft is that it uses style over substance a lot in its shows to the detriment of every other aspect even if I liked the source material, especially in the last few years, but it has made some shows that I liked and didn't have this flaw. There's really not any way of knowing if the show will use style over substance, or if it will be good and not have this problem, so I'll just watch it and hope for the best. Well...that's just not true? Shaft uses style as a way to compliment the substance, as it should be done, as most big animation studios do. Sayonara Zetsubou sensei is weird and slightly creepy because it is supposed to be, Bakemonogatari is OTT and changes according to who is narrating because it is supposed to be, Arakawa under the bridge is...do you get the picture? Now, I won't say that Shaft don't fail at this sometimes because they certainly do, Sasami-san@ is a case of style over substance imo, MCC has poor pacing and seems to be a mess all around Nisekoi looks good (as does the manga imo) but the story is naturally generic af. Still I don't think you can argue that they use style OVER substance. I have to admit I was rather surprised when I heard Shaft were doing this since it doesn't seem like their type of thing...maybe this will be a chance for them to change their style up a bit? To try something more realistic...also why have so many people been suggesting Production I.G? They don't really do all that much that has the same tone or themes as this as far as I know... |
Jan 23, 2016 8:00 AM
#248
Kreion said: Well...that's just not true? Shaft uses style as a way to compliment the substance, as it should be done, as most big animation studios do. Sayonara Zetsubou sensei is weird and slightly creepy because it is supposed to be, Bakemonogatari is OTT and changes according to who is narrating because it is supposed to be, Arakawa under the bridge is...do you get the picture? Now, I won't say that Shaft don't fail at this sometimes because they certainly do, Sasami-san@ is a case of style over substance imo, MCC has poor pacing and seems to be a mess all around Nisekoi looks good (as does the manga imo) but the story is naturally generic af. Still I don't think you can argue that they use style OVER substance. I have to admit I was rather surprised when I heard Shaft were doing this since it doesn't seem like their type of thing...maybe this will be a chance for them to change their style up a bit? To try something more realistic...also why have so many people been suggesting Production I.G? They don't really do all that much that has the same tone or themes as this as far as I know... It's fine in the other shows, but I don't care for the Monogatari anime for that reason. Even though I think the light novels are okay, they don't have much substance, or at least any moreso than your typical anime, and in that case, I think the visuals detract from the show, not because of the fact that they use them, but because they dwell on them for far too long. The whole show would probably would have been half as long or three-quarters as long if they had done otherwise. And then the style would be equal to the substance. Same thing with Madoka Magica; I didn't feel like there was much substance to begin with, considering all that happens is bad things happening to the girls, and not much else. I say this even as someone who read Goethe's Faust in its entirety. Still, I didn't say that they used style over substance in all of their shows, and whether someone likes the animation is subjective anyway. IMO, Shaft is no better or worse than any other animation studio. They've made good shows, and they've made bad shows. That's why I'll hold my judgement until I actually see the show. |
Jan 28, 2016 5:15 AM
#249
D-ohnuts said: Kreion said: Well...that's just not true?... It's fine in the other shows, but I don't care for the Monogatari anime for that reason. Even though I think the light novels are okay, they don't have much substance, or at least any moreso than your typical anime, and in that case, I think the visuals detract from the show, not because of the fact that they use them, but because they dwell on them for far too long. The whole show would probably would have been half as long or three-quarters as long if they had done otherwise. And then the style would be equal to the substance. But the monogatari anime is exactly THE example of where style has a purpose and is used for a specific reason - the lack of other people is because they are not relevant to the narrator, bits are exaggerated which would be in their mind and brushed over when they are not so relevant. I really just don't get how you think you can argue that a series ENTIERLY focused on deconstructing a series of characters and what makes them who they are is lacking in substance - you may as well argue that Cowboy Bebop is shallow because all that does is follow some characters around as stuff happens...it's just a non-sensical argument and trust me there are pleanty of things you can complain about if talking about the monogatari series. Lack of substance is just not one of them, if you want to criticize something then I would suggest that you actually consider what it is you dislike about the series rather than waving it off with 'lack of substance'; a complaint so generic I could apply it to almost every book, film and anime not a 1000 page discussion on what the meaning of life is if I so chose to. I mean, now you're just including your own bias that you don't like it when a different style is prominent - and in return I am showing my bias that I prefer it when a different style is prominent - the point still stands though that style is used to make the visual imagery stronger and at no point runs counter to what is happening. To be clear - I don't care that you don't like the monogatari series or Madoka, I'm not a massive fan of the latter either - but your complaints are so...empty that I felt the need to respond. |
Apr 7, 2018 3:18 AM
#250
Is this still relevant? Everyone be like : >Wow 3gatsu will be animated >Shaft will animate it, gonna be a shit show >Turns out to be a really good show, but still hating shaft |
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