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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- An awesome episode. With a twist at the end. |
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Beave said: An awesome episode. With a twist at the end. You are right. But since it's Jigoku Shoujo Mitsuganae we are talking about,nothing surprises me anymore.However,that old guy was really sick!!! |
Don't talk to me about character development if Kaizuka Inaho or Slaine Troyard are in your favorites. |
| but whats with hajime and tsugumi? did she kill him? o_o |
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| awesome episode. it's nice to see Tsugumi again. She's so pretty <3 |
| Jigoku Shoujo anime always piss me off; this system is wrong no matter how you look at it, and still I compulsively watch that anime I just wish that someone will make them close shop somehow. |
MaxCrazy7 said: ..I just wish that someone will make them close shop somehow. If Aniplex plans to make a season 4 I think we will never see the shop closed =P Anyways, I thought that this season took place right after the second ended, now we know more about the time line of the events of this show. |
| ................ ゆっくりしていってね！！！...................... |
| lol This is the first time that I loved yuzuki! Omg it was so great ;_; |
| Hmmm, so the main feature of this episode is definitely the grown up Tsugumi, she's became really great. Still, I wonder how she could grow by 10 or 12 years whereas in the first season, people already used the Internet and third generation mobile phones (so mid-2000's basically). It means Mitsuganae takes place at the end of the 2010's, or there's been a time slip somewhere maybe? And there are other things that do not really make sense, did Tsugumi really sent Hajime to Hell, I don't remember it from previous seasons (if yes, my bad, I just forgot this point, but it seems I'm not the only one)? It would be cool to see Hotaru from season 2 too, even if she was far less important to the script than Tsugumi and Hajime. |
 In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same. |
hirahira said: awesome episode. it's nice to see Tsugumi again. She's so pretty <3 she has turned out to be some cold bitch though. i guess years of fruitless attempts to stop people's pointless hatred has rendered her barren and cold. the artificial hatred does really prove a fundamental flaw within the system itself. |
kisami said: hirahira said: awesome episode. it's nice to see Tsugumi again. She's so pretty <3 she has turned out to be some cold bitch though. i guess years of fruitless attempts to stop people's pointless hatred has rendered her barren and cold. the artificial hatred does really prove a fundamental flaw within the system itself. I don't think she's a cold bitch. I think she's just lost hope in mankind. I wonder what happened to hajime?? Did he die of old age or another reason? cause tsugumi isn't that old so I don't think it's old age o.O she is pretty! =D I love that she's wearing the earrings now This ep. in general was really good. Seems mitsuginae is getting better every episode since about the middle of this season =) |
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| This was a damn good episode. We got to see Tsugumi and shit. However, wth happened to Hajime? |
| Oh yes Tsugumi my baby. <3 So, she was the nurse afterall. And damn, the professor was wicked smart. He's just like L from Death Note but only older and less cooler. We also get to see Ai's another power, making craters! Nice episode, can't want to see the next one. |
| wow that guy was messed up to send the nurse 2 hell jus cuz... XP im glad she didnt go X3 still seeing all of those ppl 2gether was awesome XD |
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| Yuzuki: Please stop!Can't you consider it just this once?! Ai: .....And you think I never do consider it? Ehhh,it was something like that,but it was when Yuzuki was asking Ai if she have ever considered not doing a request because it was wrong and it was a silly reason,and the way Ai replied just made me even more sad for Ai. ;___; Anyway,I really liked this episode!:3 What about Hajime though?D: |
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Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| I liked this episode because of three things: 1. The animations got sensibly better at last! 2. Of course because of Yuzuki! She's the main reason I watched that much of Mitsuganae's episodes. 3. Tsugumi... I love every episode where she has appearance even if she's grown up now. She really seems to have lost hope in humanity after all these years... Btw, where are my favorite commentators? First we lost andel999 and now the other first-posters... |
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| YAY LITTLE TSUGUMI wow she's all adult now. She seems kind of worn down, like she's just ready to give up on everything. That's kind of super sad. I always thought Tsugumi was strong. Also, the way she talks about Hajime makes me think he was sent to hell. I was like, "WAH! HAJIME WOULDN'T WANT YOU TO BE SENT TO HELL!! WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?!" I think I'll be floored if Tsugumi, of all people, is the one who sent Hajime to hell like people are suggesting - if he was even sent at all or just passed away, but I have this faint, weak hope he's around somewhere. I LOVED HIM SO MUCHHHHHH. But I really feel like we're hitting the final part of this series that untangles itself and defines what the whole season is all about. It's all the juicy meat portion that we've been waiting for... and... I'm not sure if I'm ready for it just yet. And I still feel like I have a million more questions than answers. |
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| aww tsugumi officially appeared i love her so much especially in season 1 with her and hajime... btw where is hajime??? |
| WOW! What an awesome episode! Didn't though the school-nurse would be Tsugumi so quite nice she was kept through all three seasons! The professors was amazing making a scientific work claiming hell exist and implanting anger to activate the Hell Link! Just an amazing episode with an amazing plot twist, but well the professor got what he wanted he was able to go to hell! |
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Meritas said: They got sent via Emma Ai express.Btw, where are my favorite commentators? First we lost andel999 and now the other first-posters... There was a slight clog in ordering a doll for andel999. He sure was a popular bastard! :) |
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| So, just how many years passed in between season 2 and season 3? A youthful Tsugumi appeared in the last few episodes of season 2 (I'd say she's probably in her late 20's at that point), and she seemed like she matured in a believable way. Now she shows up in season 3, and her personality changed completely. She's hardly even Tsugumi anymore. I'm starting to get sick of season 3; I'm just glad there's only 6 episodes left. Everything changed, and not in a good way. Kikuri went from being a creepy, sadistic little girl from hell, to being a wind-up-toy. She doesn't even have a role in the plot anymore; she just sorta shows up randomly from time to time pointing out the obvious or making annoying "whee" sounds while asking people to wind her up, and this episode was a shining example of that. She totally killed the drama at the end when she showed up out of freaking nowhere while doing that annoying little "whee" and pointed out the painfully obvious fact that someone just pulled a string. Enma Ai was an emotionless, pitiable character with a vast amount of empathy for her victims which she locked away behind her stone-cold demeanor. Now, she seems to be an aggressive, apathetic person. She also seems to have lost most of her importance that she had in other seasons; she hardly gets any screen time anymore. Not only that, but it seems that she randomly gained a multitude of random powers in between season 2 and season 3, none of which are ever given an explanation. Enma's 3 posse members (Wanyuudou, Hone Onna, and Ichimoku Ren) feel more like supporting characters now. They don't really do anything important anymore other than turning into straw dolls. I swear, if it wasn't for Yuzuki, I'd have dropped this season already. Yuzuki is the only redeeming quality for this season. She seems to have a very empathetic, caring personality, and it's generally a pleasure to watch her do stuff. The whole thing about her being destined to become the "next Jigoku Shoujo" though, is pretty retarded. I guess all that stuff which was explained about Enma in seasons 1 and 2 about how and why she is the Jigoku Shoujo is irrelevant now. After 500+ years of holding the title "Jigoku Shoujo", some girl is going to randomly take her place. Also, the revenge scenes are just drop-dead terrible now. Not only is the motives behind the revenges becoming increasingly stupid, they don't really make me feel any sort of sympathy towards anyone involved in them. Compare the first episode of season 1 to the first episode of season 3; there's a massive difference. Season 1 revenge scene: A high-school girl steals money entrusted to another girl, and then extorts her in all kinds of depraved ways until the girl snaps and sends her to hell. The revenge scene was rather nightmarish and felt appropriate considering she was being sent to hell. Season 3 revenge scene: Some girl hates her high-school teacher for absolutely no good reason at all. She get's mad at him whenever he punishes her for disrupting the class, and seems to be very offended whenever he writes in a notebook. Apparently, this gave her enough hateful feelings towards him to allow her to contact Enma and send him to hell. The revenge scene was completely anti-climactic, and involved a bunch of colorful numbers and the teacher being grabbed by a living number 2. Wan, Hon, and Ren stand around and talk about pointless stuff, and then Enma comes flying in wearing a bee suit and stings him. Later, the girl who sent him to hell discovers that he didn't do anything bad. End of episode. |
LarasoOct 6, 2012 7:47 AM
| Some parts of this post may be exaggerated. |
| So Tsugumi was here all along... that was a nice surprise. Pretty good episode as well. |
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| pretty good episode with a nice twist but in the beginning i expected it would be more like hell boy vs hell girl from season 1 or 2. PrinceJ said: exactly my thought but because AI her servants don't know i don't think she sent him to hell she might have kilt him her self.i wonder what tsugumi meant about her father there at the end |
| "When a flat-chested loli hugs you, she holds you closer to her heart" "--I am a single bullet. It has no heart. Therefore, it does not think. It just flies straight towards its target."  |
| Unfortunately the episode where my one and only Tsugumi appears bored me to the estreme. I don't like this futuristic tone Jigoku Shoujo adopted.. Tsugumi was the pale shadow of herself. I never wished for a Hell Girl show to quickly end. |
| Mathematically proving the existence of hell. I can honestly say that I've never heard of that one before. Also, hell's bells. Really now. |
ShockedSep 26, 2014 10:34 PM
| Wow...Tsugumi is hot. 10/10 would bang Tsugumi's personality sure has changed. She used to be so determined to save the lives of others. Now she has a cold heart like she has given up on life. So the professor gained artificial hate for Tsugumi so he could access Hell Link so he could bring Ai to his lab. That's some crazy shit. I was confused why that guy sent the professor to hell. Then I realized it was because of all the children he neglected. I was not expecting this episode to be this awesome. I was expecting a stupid rip-off of the Hell Boy episode from season 1 but this was absolutely amazing. 10/10 best episode of the season so far. It's going to be hard to top this one. |
| That was better than most of the episode in this season, but still it made no fucking sence. I am not a math genius but how do you prove that hell exists with equations and stuff? |
Oh, pitiful shadow cloaked in darkness. Thy actions cause men pain and suffering. Thy hollow soul drowns in thy sins. How would you like to see what death is like? -Enma Ai |
| yippee! hajime tsugumi is back, and whats that it ended so quickly ...she seems to be leaving.....I want her to be in every episode...... And... Nah...I still like season 1 and 2 better ....with every season, the story get worse..... I still love season 1 the most. I am also wondering ,would Tsugumi will also become another hell girl or what?? |
future_doseDec 14, 2015 1:51 AM
| Yay, more story! So it IS Tsugumi (or rather a shell of her former self)... well, that means Hajime is most likely dead or has aged alot. Good riddance. |
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| Hah hah, so he takes in a bunch of orphaned kids whose parents were killed in war, and they all decide to send him to hell because his prior scientific discovery improved unmanned weapons? I guess the lesson here is to never atone for your sins, since if he let them alone to suffer on the streets/orphanages he wouldn't have been sent to hell! |
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| Im not entirely sure how i feel about what i just watched. The science fiction aspect thrown into a predominantly horror genre series didn't seem to fit. I don't think Jigoku Shoujo should have any ties to science or even pseudoscience. This series deals with the morality of hatred, and seeing as this is a work of fiction, and that Hell Link does not exist in reality, having a strictly horror/supernatural feel makes more sense. I truly believe that this series has some literary value, it is an author's interpretation of very real emotions and reflects the passions and hatred of people. It is for this reason that I can look past the many inconsistencies and weak points in the plot, as well as more general production issues in the animation itself. As watchers, we have something more to gain than simple entertainment from Jigoku Shoujo, it allows us to ponder the society in which we live, the selfish nature of humanity that is so pervasive though out time and across culture. |
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| Where the hell is Hajime-chan? |
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Orkman said: So prof drops a logic bomb on Ai? Or what, Hell exists because humanity created it? Loved the episode but I'm kinda lost here. Did he want to meet her to verify hell or to disprove her own existence? I.E. what was the point of the experiment? Also those kids were kinda out of left field... he found hell exist but nothing about heaven .... probably wanted to live for eternity even if it mean torture and such ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| Hrm... This episode was simultaneously intriguing and preposterous for me :/ An interesting idea, but there was so much that just doesn't feel right in this show. While I can see an argument for the strange pseudo-science and pseudo-mathematics in the idea that the supernatural is just science we don't yet understand (in the same way that religion originally began, in part, as a way to explain that which was not understood at the time), that doesn't make it any less out of place in this series. It just doesn't fit with the tone the show has always created, where the powers Ai and her companions have and the properties of Hell itself are something beyond mortal understanding. To have someone who understands their existence and powers and Hell from a scientific viewpoint subverts the entire tone of the series on a fundamental level. This sort of subversion can be used to great effect, but that requires a lot of setup, foreshadowing, the idea that this truth was always hidden there from the start... it just doesn't work as such a small, encapsulated piece of a much larger story. lasodamos said: Orkman said: So prof drops a logic bomb on Ai? Or what, Hell exists because humanity created it? Loved the episode but I'm kinda lost here. Did he want to meet her to verify hell or to disprove her own existence? I.E. what was the point of the experiment? Also those kids were kinda out of left field... he found hell exist but nothing about heaven .... probably wanted to live for eternity even if it mean torture and such ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ As he's being ferried away, he explains his motivations for wishing to go to hell quite clearly and concisely: he wants to see his mother again, who he mentioned earlier had been sent to hell when he was young. |
| "EVERYBODY, CLAP YOUR HANDS!" "PLUS ULTRA!" |
| Where is Hajime :(((( Tsumugi became hot babe. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| ppl is it hard to watch S1 finale? no it isn't! Tsugumi did not send Hajime to hell (i failed to make her send him to hell)! he either died at age or illness or accident, but considering how he made money i wouldn't be surprise if some1 did send him to hell, some1 more paranoid thinking maybe he still has some dirt on me, maybe he didn't sell all the photos back to me information from Wiki In the second season, it is revealed that Hajime has written a biography on Ai Enma, perhaps as a guide for people who will become involved with the Jigoku Shoujo in the future. There is also a possibility that he may have written it to fulfill his part of the exchange with Ai's grandmother for letting him out of the realm of eternal twilight. Shortly after he writes the biography, he goes missing. His whereabouts are unknown even to Ai's assistants, implying that he was not sent to Hell. so the Author has left it out the info what happened to Hajime, so what happened to him is unknown |
Sugram22Nov 4, 2017 2:04 AM
| Badass professor out of nowhere! Tsugumi has been there all along! a "Kikyo" sacrificing themselves to save the children?... deja vu. |
Jacut said: Hmmm, so the main feature of this episode is definitely the grown up Tsugumi, she's became really great. Still, I wonder how she could grow by 10 or 12 years whereas in the first season, people already used the Internet and third generation mobile phones (so mid-2000's basically). It means Mitsuganae takes place at the end of the 2010's, or there's been a time slip somewhere maybe? And there are other things that do not really make sense, did Tsugumi really sent Hajime to Hell, I don't remember it from previous seasons (if yes, my bad, I just forgot this point, but it seems I'm not the only one)? It would be cool to see Hotaru from season 2 too, even if she was far less important to the script than Tsugumi and Hajime. Usagi had a 2009 textbook in episode 15, so I guess season 1 is in the mid-1990s and season 2 in the early 2000s. Chalk it up to a continuity error. |
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| So Tsugumi was the school nurse. Whew, looks like she became a hot babe. I wonder what ever happened to Hajime though, maybe also got sent to hell or something else. Awesome twist in the end though, I thought that Tsugumi was done for. Anyway, I felt sad for Ai when she said that "And you think I never do consider it?'' to Yuzuki. She doesn't know how much Ai has suffered throughout the ages. |
EmperorAlfredJun 12, 2019 5:48 AM
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| Tsugumi ur so mean she neds u do comfort her right new |
| Damn, this episode had so much plot in it. I hate how Tsugumi looks now (I hate earrings so that's why). And also I just can't like Yuzuki. Just shut up, stop speaking please, you don't know shit. She's not even a budget Tsugumi because she's even worse than that. I'm so curious as to what happened to best character, Hajime-san. Did Tsugumi kill him for a reason? |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
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