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May 15, 2021 7:59 AM
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Ah, nice to see Vivy look out for her fellow singers. She doesn't want Ophelia to harm herself as they're also in the same profession. Cute how she put that flower on her head.

She's quite a talented singer imo, including with her performance this episode.

May 15, 2021 8:02 AM
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holy crap that ending... ANTONIO!!!!!!!!! Also how does that guy know Vivy's name? Everyone should only know her as Diva by this timeline.
May 15, 2021 9:26 AM
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8 episodes in and I can't still get used to Matsumoto's fast-talking. The whole episode was based upon Vivy finding out why Ophelia wants to kill herself. Matsumoto and Vivy were doing a good job until someone actually hacked into the security cams and showed them fake footage of what's going on.

Ophelia has a beautiful voice, she's recognized by Vivy as well. But, because she can't get satisfaction after her performances, she wanna kill herself which would lead to the world's first AI suicide. But that plot twist at the end was something else, wasn't expecting that at all. We'll have to see how Matsumoto and Vivy are going to handle this situation.
May 15, 2021 9:35 AM
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You thought it was Ophelia, but it was I, Antonio!

May 15, 2021 9:43 AM
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What a twist! Now to ponder on what caused Ophelia's death instead of Antonio, with the latter's motives most probably to carry on Ophelia's wish in her stead

And does it have something to do with that dude
May 15, 2021 9:46 AM
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Even when everyone dislikes her its nice that Ophelia has someone that's always supportive of her in the form of Antonio. Still this served to make her suicide that much more tragic. If anything Antonio's shutdown was one of the catalyst's of Ophelia's mental state. Ophelia's performance sure was impressive. Its amusing seeing Vivy ask about her past self though. Matsumoto's horse form was pretty interesting. But the mission to stop Ophelia sure featured quite the twist Antonio's re-entry into the series. Overall an interesting ep that did well in expanding upon both Ophelia's past but also allow us to look at the kind of determination that she had inside her. The twist with Antonio though was pretty intriguing and can't wait to see what had caused him to reappear. Looks like next ep will be quite the complex one judging from the visuals.
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May 15, 2021 9:52 AM
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That twist at the end had me screaming, damn so Ophelia's already dead and Antonia is the one in Ophelia's body. So I guess the reason he shut down was cause he transferred his data to Ophelia's body.

How is Kakitani still alive and young? Did he become an AI? He was using high level hacking and interference, so he proly is.
May 15, 2021 9:52 AM
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Damn that plot twist at the end.. so many questions about how antonio survived. He must’ve transferred his consciousness to Ophelia during his shut down. How the hell is Kakitani still alive too? Next episode will have a lot of questions to answer. Really hyped.
May 15, 2021 10:00 AM
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Fucking hell that twist. Just made me more hype for next week's episode, and it cannot come quick enough!
May 15, 2021 10:01 AM
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Antonio pulled a Dio
May 15, 2021 10:08 AM

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Once on the offensive they have been pushed to defensive.
May 15, 2021 10:13 AM
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Oh, crap. That plot twist came out of nowhere.

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May 15, 2021 10:22 AM

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I see I see, an very excellent episoe.
Antonio transferred his 'mind' or well replaced it with Ophilia's mind.
Kakitani is probably a robot (something might have happend to him in ep 6)

Well let's see how this will play out for Diva and Matsumoto.


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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May 15, 2021 10:28 AM
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the Toak guy might be a Cyborg now lol wtf

so it was Antonio Banderas! hacking Ophelia and made her commit suicide

this is the first arc of this show that has more than 2 episodes
May 15, 2021 10:38 AM
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If I'm remembering correctly, this is the only arc that we've had two episodes of buildup for. I'm hoping for a very strong conclusion, and I'm confident that it will have a solid finish with how good all of the other episodes have been. Can't wait for next week!
May 15, 2021 10:44 AM

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Matsumoto got hacked from this Man i dont who he is but fhat Antoni now is on Ophelia is crazy plot hole in the end
P O S I T I V E V I B E Sシ


May 15, 2021 10:46 AM

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This anime still has not missed. There has been elements that I didn’t like in past episodes, but there hasn’t been an episode that I thought was mid or underwhelming. I’m looking forward to Diva relearning about her past and seeing the face-off between Matsumoto and Antonio.
May 15, 2021 10:46 AM
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now wtf is happening. i mean i already thought antonio was suspecious and him "being shut down" by it self was little weird and there is no way ophelia would kill herself" and i felt he had something to do with her suiside. but man it still suprised me.


but what is that man doing here. he had a teacher who was an ai(that suprised me tbh) so why does he hate ai??
May 15, 2021 10:51 AM

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ImmortalZero said:
holy crap that ending... ANTONIO!!!!!!!!! Also how does that guy know Vivy's name? Everyone should only know her as Diva by this timeline.

Isn't he someone like kid of past guy? He probably told him about Vivy
May 15, 2021 10:51 AM

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Diva looks so beautiful and unparalleled, while Ophelia has to content with her sound support A.I. Antonio to shine brightly onstage. This stage is a cursed tragedy waiting to happen.

Time does not stop for no man nor machine, and WHACK it is for what it is, since the news of Ophelia's suicide became the sole catalyst of the humans-A.I. war. and Diva wants to stop the problem at its root to alter the start of the 100-year history despite Matsumoto's whims.

So the Toak guy Kakitani doesn't exist in this timeline? If he existed in Vivy's future timelines, there's gotta be a give to what he could be, but for now it's a mystery.

Stating the obvious, Diva only existed for her original mission to sing, and Matsumoto is just filling in the blanks for his part of the story, so we're literally going "Back to the Future" with Ophelia's business.

Turning a Dio situation to which Ophelia's suicide turned out to be Antonio behind this mess with the hacking of Ophelia, dang what a twist. Shocked with pure terror for this one.
May 15, 2021 10:52 AM
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And why is that?
Because Ophelia is no more!
I am Antonio!

That final line was cold. The glitch sound effects took it to another level.
May 15, 2021 11:02 AM

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I trusted Antonio, I thought he meant no harm. It doesn't seem like that now though.
May 15, 2021 11:06 AM

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I just wanna see Vivy walking 9S's path and the network's Tower
Am I asking too much?
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
May 15, 2021 11:12 AM

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Me: "Oh, the supposedly cute Ophelia isn't all that, I've seen that twist many times"

"Ophelia": "I'm Antonio"

Me: Ok, that's a new one, Dio would approve

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


May 15, 2021 11:13 AM

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Quite the damn plot twist in the end with the Jojo-level shit there from Antonio. Better episode than the previous week.
May 15, 2021 11:23 AM

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KONO ANTONIA DA!
but holy hell.. this anime is not coming slow even in the middle.. i just hope we get Vivy back in next episode.. i like Giga chad Stacy Diva.. but Vivy just feels more close..
May 15, 2021 11:31 AM

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fantastic episode, next week should be hype
May 15, 2021 11:34 AM

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Was a good episode to know how the closer they get to the 100 years goal, the battles are getting harder. And even Matsumoto hacking upper hand can get countered now.

May 15, 2021 11:34 AM

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ImmortalZero said:
holy crap that ending... ANTONIO!!!!!!!!! Also how does that guy know Vivy's name? Everyone should only know her as Diva by this timeline.
He knows her name because she told him in in episode 6 as she left to go find dr. Saeki and shut down the ship., he’s the guy from TOAK who vivy saved and was talking to at the beginning of ep6
May 15, 2021 11:44 AM

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Wow, Kogoro Mo...I mean Rikiya Koyama. Was that an early hint that it's more of a detective case?
Hummm, talking about it...was Vivy the actual first AI who committed suicide? (But I guess she was infected by the virus so it doesn't count.)
The concert reminded me the concerts in Macross F.
The piano teacher from after the end credits - reminded me certain episodic character from The Big O.

PS
Wait, Antonio...
Antony? Was Ophelia actually Cleo...like Cleopatra?

PS PS
Just realised that Matsumoto in his cube form reminds me of Gedächtnis from Fireball.
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May 15, 2021 11:50 AM

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i didn't expect that plot twist at the end, wow...
can't wait for next weeks episode!!
May 15, 2021 11:57 AM

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dooooodddd. Antonio sus. I think that viva will be back soon. its gone be cool. ok but Antonio seriously sus
May 15, 2021 12:13 PM
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This continues to be best anime of the season in episode 8, nice
May 15, 2021 12:22 PM
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Fucking Antonio. lol. Such a great series this had been. I thought it was gonna go down hill but it just keeps me interested.

***SPOILERS UNDER THIS LINE****

I've been checking out the old trailer and one of them hinted the ending. Not just that but the opening song does as well. If you notice the red and blue from timelines and the opening. I WONT SAY THE REST BEYOND THIS SENTENCE, but dude... I hope this isn't what I'm thinking is going to happen. I'm sure that the ending is going to be what i think it is after Antonio appeared. God i hope Diva comes out of this unscathed, im already tearing up knowing what's going to happen.
May 15, 2021 12:33 PM

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yea...i totally did not expect that ending there. figured its gonna be one of those Diva and/or Matsumoto is too late type of deals
May 15, 2021 12:33 PM
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Fantastic episode. To be honest, I was a bit iffy about the Metal Float arc, but it's ending saved it. However, I am enjoying the AI suicide arc a lot, almost on the same level as the Sunrise arc. Lots of great stuff happened. We got to hear Ophelia's beautiful voice, we got beautiful stills from Wit as expected, and finally that ending. Oh boi, that's a big "Kono Dio da!" moment lol. Also, the Toak guy got younger? lol this is spinning my head. Can't wait for more!

5/5 Episode
May 15, 2021 12:37 PM

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Ok that plot twist was unexpected, also I'm glad we got to see some of that TOAK guy's backstory.

Gotta admit tho, that Antonio guy got a nice name lol.
May 15, 2021 12:39 PM
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Diva finally called Matsumoto out on what we've all been thinking since the first episode (how he talks 27384874 miles per minute) and I'm f*cking dead 🤣🤣🤣
May 15, 2021 12:42 PM

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That was some Jojo-level plot twist.
May 15, 2021 12:43 PM
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I'm speechless. What an episode. It was super engaging like always and that plot twist was just.. wow. That voice change and laugh was just so perfect. 5/5




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May 15, 2021 1:33 PM
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Go watch the After credit scene
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May 15, 2021 1:42 PM

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Poke_Nekoma said:
He knows her name because she told him in in episode 6 as she left to go find dr. Saeki and shut down the ship., he’s the guy from TOAK who vivy saved and was talking to at the beginning of ep6


I thought the same way too at first, but considering how much time passed since metal float he's either supposed to be dead or an old man by now and not some young lad who looks like he just graduated college.
May 15, 2021 2:51 PM

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Not that cliffhanger damn. I wasn’t expecting it at all
May 15, 2021 3:00 PM
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ImmortalZero said:
Poke_Nekoma said:
He knows her name because she told him in in episode 6 as she left to go find dr. Saeki and shut down the ship., he’s the guy from TOAK who vivy saved and was talking to at the beginning of ep6


I thought the same way too at first, but considering how much time passed since metal float he's either supposed to be dead or an old man by now and not some young lad who looks like he just graduated college.


He most likely transfered his mind to an AI or something. ( ironic but still ), the flashback confirmed it's him.
May 15, 2021 3:26 PM
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This episode reminded me of Ace Attorney: Justice for All, in a good way.
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May 15, 2021 3:34 PM
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At the beginning of the episode it shows the timeline and it looks like two bodies are both lying on the ground instead of just Ophelia
May 15, 2021 3:34 PM

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Incredible episode
I’m actually liking Diva much than vivy rn. She just funnier imo

That ending though. When antonio introduced himself was funny as hell
If there's a hole there's a goal-Master Oogway
May 15, 2021 3:44 PM

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Phosphophyllita said:
I just wanna see Vivy walking 9S's path and the network's Tower
Am I asking too much?
And then they will reveal Yoko Taro is working on this anime too xD

But more seriously, it's obvious some major plot-twist is coming, and 9S-type twist would work for this series too.
May 15, 2021 3:57 PM

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Damnnn..that twist at the end totally caught me off guard. I wonder what Antonio's goal is. It's either he was pissed at the original Ophelia for not living up to his expectations and killed her or she suicided already at one point and he took her body after that.

Anyway, the timeline already seems screwed with this switcheroo now.

Toak dude seems to want to bring out the "old" Vivy. I wonder how that will go as well.
May 15, 2021 4:36 PM

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It was a Trap all along! Get it? A trap.

I'll see myself out.
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