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Dec 16, 2019 8:39 PM
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As the title suggests, which factor is the most important into making an anime good like plot, characters, art, music, etc. I know that all of these factors are a necessity, but if you had to pick the most important factor that makes an anime good, what would it be
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Dec 16, 2019 11:33 PM
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A good main character and premise. Something like AOT's premise of humanity being trapped in three walls against a mysterious and unknown force of titans hooks you right in.
Dec 16, 2019 11:58 PM
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riverolf said:
A good main character and premise. Something like AOT's premise of humanity being trapped in three walls against a mysterious and unknown force of titans hooks you right in.

Yeah but there are anime with great premises that fail spectacularly in execution.So I'd say execution is still more important than a premise that sounds good on the surface.
Dec 17, 2019 12:01 AM
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To me enjoyment is still the most important,even though it's extremely subjective.Because after all if i am bored to death watching the anime,it doesn't matter if it's objectively good ,i am going to dislike it.Good enjoyment requires the culmination of all of the elements done well such as animation,characters,story etc.
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Characters are important above all else. The whole Slice of Life genre exists because characters can carry a show on their backs. No genre or even show is as much premise or theme as characters are to SOL.
Dec 17, 2019 12:12 AM
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Good characters can carry an entire show. Even if the story is bad but characters good it will be decent but if it is the otherway around, it will be bad.
Dec 17, 2019 12:14 AM
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Cute girls. If an anime has cute girls, it's a masterpiece by default.
Dec 17, 2019 12:15 AM
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Missaliensan said:
riverolf said:
A good main character and premise. Something like AOT's premise of humanity being trapped in three walls against a mysterious and unknown force of titans hooks you right in.

Yeah but there are anime with great premises that fail spectacularly in execution.So I'd say execution is still more important than a premise that sounds good on the surface.


Would you mind to post any examples?
Dec 17, 2019 12:22 AM
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riverolf said:
Missaliensan said:

Yeah but there are anime with great premises that fail spectacularly in execution.So I'd say execution is still more important than a premise that sounds good on the surface.


Would you mind to post any examples?

There are loads of threads made on this,I think that is enough proof.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1811623
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=427555
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1329941
Dec 17, 2019 12:27 AM

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Characters , even if the plot is average , If they manage to write intriguing characters that can get us emotionally invested in them then it's going to be enjoyable to watch.
A good plot with dull characters or poorly handled characters can ruin the show.

Music is also underrated
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Dec 17, 2019 12:27 AM

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It depends on the genre. Drama's and SOL anime are obviously character-driven, so character development tend to be the most important aspect of those particular shows.

A battle-shounen, on the other hand, doesn't necessarily need the same qualities for it to be an attractive series to viewers, and can rely on other factors to move it along, although it does obviously help.

A well-executed premise plays a big factor on whether I know I'll like something within the first few episodes. Creating a world with grounded, believable rules also allows me to immerse myself in the show.

The OST is really important as it can really make or break how immersed I become in the show I'm watching. A catchy, emotional soundtrack that fits with the feel of the anime really helps.



Dec 17, 2019 12:49 AM

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For me the most important aspects are the females , I only want my adorable cute girls! They are very strong characters and with them all the rest will falls in place!! And I want the anime to be male free!! All the girls in the anime belongs to me. And I dont want males around them!! I DONT share MY girls!! They are mine!!All of them!!! I watch them as a crazed fucking hawk!! And I fiercely protect their purity mind souls and body! I want them to be lesbians and go for each other!!I like my lesbian angels they are cute as hell!! And sometimes if you are lucky they even kiss or having sex!!!,,,YEEEEES!!!!!

Pure Yuri's that follow this concept get 10/10 on my list!! So male free anime with good behaving lesbians are the most important factors for me!! My girls are everything!! Dont need a complex story or anything else as long as I have them!!






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All of the following components are equally important to make an Anime "good":
- Plot
- Chracter
- Art
- Sound
- Presentation

The Anime Title must also be faithful to its intended genre and not have excessive amounts of slap-stick comedy and fanservice scenes.
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Dec 17, 2019 1:05 AM

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Quality characters. Give me an average or inconsistent story with quality characters and I won't even notice the problems.
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Dec 17, 2019 1:10 AM
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Decent story, plot, philosophy behind it are the most important to (art) Japanese animation.

Story is like a vitamin, while everything else is merely food. You can chug tasty burgers like Violet Everdarden or... any other Kyoto Animation studio work, sit down in your fatmobile and drive off into the sunset while shouting "MURICA MURICA MURICA".
OR
You can in-take something from Gainax, which is a vitamin for your mind that stays with you forever, letting you put things into retrospective and perspective.
Rough examples no need to roast. The theory stands.
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Quality characters. Give me an average or inconsistent story with quality characters and I won't even notice the problems.

The thing is... this is kinda impossible. On a conceptual level. Characters are an ingrained part of the story.
Surely you do not want to look like a fool and will be able to provide examples of poor plot/interesting characters story. I will be your witness.
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Quality characters. Give me an average or inconsistent story with quality characters and I won't even notice the problems.
RonnyZapata said:
A premise is nothing without good realisation.

I've seen movies where nothing happens. But the camera movements, flat, effects. Etc. They are excellent and keep you attentive without anything happening inside the script.

A good premise, characters and intentions are useless if there is no realisation.


So you say that empty stupid action stories like 90% American action films, while being utterly obsolete and thematically drained, if executed well (the camera movement, flat, effects. Etc.) are going to be better than rather straightforward plot-based series?
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There's no such thing as one aspect more important than the others because anime are separable by genre.

A good anime just need a good studio. Or simply just a good director .
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1. Likeable characters (this is the most important one because without good characters, you definitely won't be able to enjoy the anime no matter how masterpiece the story is).
2. No Fanservice (because it ruins the character).
Dec 17, 2019 4:35 AM

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I just want to see something I haven't seen before made interesting.
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creativity, if you just have premise and substance what good will it do if it's generic and basic.
something that challenges the norm and unexpected plot twists are bonuses/examples.
Dec 17, 2019 5:09 AM
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1. Good Writing based on the needs of the genre (if it's a comedy then good dialogue is key,if it's a character study, then strong characters, etc.)

2. Good Direction
Dec 17, 2019 5:27 AM

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This is really hard. But, I'd probably say that one of the most important things is that the anime makes sense.

And that's probably kind of vague, but a lot of anime for me do not get ranked as highly as they would have otherwise because of little things I nitpick that do not make sense.

I need to know WHY certain things happen. Things can't just happen for seemingly no reason. It can be a bunch of little small things that don't make sense that eventually add up to me not enjoying the anime as much as I would have otherwise.

I honestly can't think of an example right now, so I'll create one.

Suzy one day just decides to buy a sword. But there is no reason provided for this. Nothing about her character up to this point would have lead us to believe she had any reason whatsoever for buying a sword. This would greatly tick me off.

So just... consistency. In every aspect. Make the anime make sense. Don't just have random things happen with no explanation. If I can't believe that Suzy really wanted to buy that sword, then I'm going to be annoyed that the writers just made her do that for the sake of the story in a way that wasn't believable.

Of course, as others said, there are tons of factors that go into making a great anime. This is just one I thought of off the top of my head.

(Comedy anime are different most of the time. It's often funnier if things don't make sense, if it's done for humor.)
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Dec 17, 2019 5:58 AM
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Originality and Creativity is something that anime should have. I sometimes drop some anime immediately or turned off when i see a generic story or unrealistic characters(the ones who act and interact too anime).So, We should first get rid of those generic stories and characters (their behaviors and dialogues included) then plot and characters will be something different and new. At least, we will not see something we already know.
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I think intriguing plot originality coupled with good execution makes for a good anime. Both of these elements need to be taken into consideration primarily because if one is better than the other, the show will have lost a fundamental aspect to add to its appeal
Dec 17, 2019 7:26 AM

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It has to know what it's trying to do. Without a sense of purpose, there's nothing that can be accomplished.
Dec 17, 2019 7:31 AM

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Plot and writing.

Animes that have mostly unlikeable characters (not badly written simply unlikeable) can be pretty good. For example Mugen no Ryvius & Vinland Saga.

In other hand there is animes that have great characters, but plot is bad. These animes can still be enjoyabl to watch, but you kinda admit urself that they are pretty bad. For example K Project and Bleach.
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If we are talking about adaptation then art style + animation, while originals need premise, plot, pacing.

Other important aspects will be decided by the genre.
Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou is a perfect example of a good SoL. It has good characters, worldbuilding and atmosphere while action would need vastly different attributes to make it excellent.
Dec 17, 2019 8:10 AM

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If it doesn’t have childish humor, then it’s already solid.
Dec 17, 2019 8:22 AM

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These factors must work well with each other:
-Characters
-Story, plot
-Pacing
-Soundtracks
-OP/ED songs
-Consistency
-Art and Design
-Direction of each episode
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Cute girls. If an anime has cute girls, it's a masterpiece by default.
I really hope you're being sarcastic, then again you like Demon Slayer so probably not.
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kandi_gloss said:
midascruzer said:
If we are talking about adaptation then art style + animation, while originals need premise, plot, pacing.

Other important aspects will be decided by the genre.
Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryokou is a perfect example of a good SoL. It has good characters, worldbuilding and atmosphere while action would need vastly different attributes to make it excellent.


I personally don't read a lot of manga so an adaptation can't get by simply on being an adaptation that I can fangirl over, as it seems like you are talking about.


Well, you wouldn't waste you time and money to adapt a garbage manga, would you?
Of course I'm not saying that any adaptation would be good enough to please the general audience, what i'm saying is if you trust the manga readers on how adequate other aspects are you can be fairly sure that the anime will be nice with a good director, animation and artstyle
If you like the genre and the manga is well praised i don't see how you would have doubts.
Although, it's not as if I don't know any exceptions.
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Cute girls. If an anime has cute girls, it's a masterpiece by default.

This man right here is speaking the truth.
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Takuto_Shindou said:
-Aincrad- said:
Cute girls. If an anime has cute girls, it's a masterpiece by default.
I really hope you're being sarcastic, then again you like Demon Slayer so probably not.

You know, people like you are the reason many times I hate this site and its community.
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kandi_gloss said:
midascruzer said:


Well, you wouldn't waste you time and money to adapt a garbage manga, would you?
Of course I'm not saying that any adaptation would be good enough to please the general audience, what i'm saying is if you trust the manga readers on how adequate other aspects are you can be fairly sure that the anime will be nice with a good director, animation and artstyle
If you like the genre and the manga is well praised i don't see how you would have doubts.
Although, it's not as if I don't know any exceptions.


I don't know, I don't really trust "high praise" since I find I don't really agree with most anime/manga fans as to what's good or bad. Anime fandom in general seems to have tates that run counter of mine anyhow.


Based on your list you tend to watch somewhat older anime. I would say that you are in the minority with your taste. Obviously it's not a bad thing but I presume you have a hard time finding new interesting anime to watch or anime that you actually enjoy. I hope I'm wrong though.
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Entertainment value. as long as something keeps you going, it's not a wasted effort. There are simply too many factors that make something good, but an objectively good product can still end up incredibly boring. I could insert my own values but it won't even match half of what I watched and liked.
Just make a show entertaining. It can be super bad as long as it's fun to watch.
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- Likable Characters
- Good Story
- Exhilarating Art Style
- Awesome OST
- Fluid Animation
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I’d say for any story to be good it at least needs well written and well developed characters. For me this is the most important part in any story for the most part.
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Boobies, breats, tits and maybe some gazongas.
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The anime has to look good
Berserk 2016: great writing, but the visuals are so horrendous, that nobody cares. People can overlook an anime with bad writing, maybe even find it so-bad-it's-good (like Big Order, King's Game), but if you can't even look at the anime, then there's no way it's going to be good.
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-Aincrad- said:
Takuto_Shindou said:
I really hope you're being sarcastic, then again you like Demon Slayer so probably not.

You know, people like you are the reason many times I hate this site and its community.
No prob, you took the words out of my mouth
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structure above all
then it comes to the story
afterwards characters, thematic focus, visual appeals

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If the scantily clad girls are doing more than just beating the shit out of each other. Sometimes I actually want a deep and engaging story.

...Sometimes.

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It depends on your opinion. All factors are equally as important to one another.

In my opinion, an at least decent story with a great cast of characters are the best factors for me. Animation as well since animation can be an important factor of "show not tell".
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Balancing all the elements, so nothing is terrible. An anime with a good story but terrible visuals might as well be a book, and an anime with good visuals but terrible story may as well be a painting. In my mind, a good anime will generally make sure that none of the major elements are below passable at the least. There are some anime that are exceptions, but I think they're far to rare to be made a rule.
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RonnyZapata said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
So you say that empty stupid action stories like 90% American action films, while being utterly obsolete and thematically drained, if executed well (the camera movement, flat, effects. Etc.) are going to be better than rather straightforward plot-based series?


I never said that. Better in what way? I said one movie may be the worst story in the world but if it narrate you well, it just keeps you hooked.

Please bring an example to the table. Such extreme claims MUST be supplemented with some solid arguments. Only Sith deal in absolutes, and as much as I like it I cannot take your word for this to be a part of the natural order unless you have confirmation it happened.
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If the story is enjoyable and if the characters are interesting
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To be honest, I don't this the quality of an anime depends on one factor(not even in two) it it the combination between different elements that makes an anime(movie,song,tv show any other form of entertainment) a successful one.
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Well executed themes or cute girls are the only things that make anime good.
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RonnyZapata said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
Please bring an example to the table. Such extreme claims MUST be supplemented with some solid arguments. Only Sith deal in absolutes, and as much as I like it I cannot take your word for this to be a part of the natural order unless you have confirmation it happened.


Examples:
Cowboy Bebop is a very simple story but it stands out because narrate focusing on his characters or add to it that music is not just for ambient.

Galaxy express 999 is a very ambitious story but its so flat way of visualizing things greatly affects its imersion.

I feel like I could argue about Cowboy Bebop, but the last time I have seen it was 2009 or something. Surely we can consult Tvtropes.
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