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Dec 13, 2019 9:22 AM
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Yeah, I can see why Sherlock is more determined than ever to solve this case. I guess it's becoming more personal now for him.

Episode is okay but honestly felt kinda depressing.
Dec 13, 2019 10:00 AM
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A bit gloomy mood indeed, it was a fine episode though.
Dec 13, 2019 11:16 AM
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John Watson suspected Moriarty, not surprised to be honest.

Overall, a fine episode.

Dec 13, 2019 12:50 PM
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Is it weird I still believe she isn't really dead?
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Dec 13, 2019 1:34 PM
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Well Im confused. Thought it was moriarty but maybe not, but at the same time why did he have a knife? Now im also thinking Kyogoku. Still have higher chances on Moriarty though. Also is this based off something or anime original?
Dec 13, 2019 2:00 PM
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Naewanz said:
Well Im confused. Thought it was moriarty but maybe not, but at the same time why did he have a knife? Now im also thinking Kyogoku. Still have higher chances on Moriarty though. Also is this based off something or anime original?
I believe it's anime original but it's also loosely based on Sherlock Holmes novels and stuff (if I remember rightly there was one where Jack the Ripper was in it but I could be wrong)
RPWPA said:
Is it weird I still believe she isn't really dead?

I don't think she's dead either I think Sherlock is just telling people that in case they're Jack to keep her safe
Anyways good episode so curious where this goes, also curious what will happen after these 12 episodes (seen as MAL has it listed for 24 so) so where will it go after Jack is revealed, we gonna get another over arching plot or will it just go to like a Monster of the Week style like it had already. Guess all we can really do is wait and see what happens
Dec 13, 2019 2:03 PM
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Jesse200000000 said:

RPWPA said:
Is it weird I still believe she isn't really dead?

I don't think she's dead either I think Sherlock is just telling people that in case they're Jack to keep her safe
Anyways good episode so curious where this goes, also curious what will happen after these 12 episodes (seen as MAL has it listed for 24 so) so where will it go after Jack is revealed, we gonna get another over arching plot or will it just go to like a Monster of the Week style like it had already. Guess all we can really do is wait and see what happens


I hope the idea with jack ends soon tbh. Ignoring the issue since episode 1 was annoying so getting it over with and moving on would be much better.
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Dec 13, 2019 2:19 PM
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RPWPA said:
Jesse200000000 said:


I don't think she's dead either I think Sherlock is just telling people that in case they're Jack to keep her safe
Anyways good episode so curious where this goes, also curious what will happen after these 12 episodes (seen as MAL has it listed for 24 so) so where will it go after Jack is revealed, we gonna get another over arching plot or will it just go to like a Monster of the Week style like it had already. Guess all we can really do is wait and see what happens


I hope the idea with jack ends soon tbh. Ignoring the issue since episode 1 was annoying so getting it over with and moving on would be much better.

I'd say it will it feels like it's coming to a close in the next episode or two, plus would be a good ending to the first part of the series, buuut knowing Sherlock, Moriarty has a tendency to not stay caught/dead for long
Dec 13, 2019 3:23 PM
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RPWPA said:
Is it weird I still believe she isn't really dead?


I think so too and I can already picture a scene where John admits he has seen her "ghost" and they laugh at him because she's actually alive.
Dec 13, 2019 4:16 PM

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I still say this series is going to do an asspull about Irene. They will base it on to the fact of baiting the killer.

It's kinda obvious Moriarty wasn't the culprit all, along, it was just to pull our heads.

They kinda made this episode kinda of light, lacking any heavy blow to it.
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Dec 13, 2019 4:37 PM

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RPWPA said:
Is it weird I still believe she isn't really dead?

Same here. We only ever see her in flashbacks or the like, and we've never been shown her actual corpse. Plus Sherlock did go to the police building, I'd say visiting her. Probably arranged a protective custody for her or some such and Moriarty was helping him all along. Wouldn't be surprised.
Dec 13, 2019 8:21 PM

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When Watson confronted Moriarty, I was like "Is he a red herring?" Now, I am quite confused. Normally, I'd believe Kyogoku was Jack, but I also know Moriarty is always a villain, so I am considering the possibility of Kyougoku being manipulated.
Dec 13, 2019 8:42 PM

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This is getting weird. I really don't know who to trust rn. They are really harping on Irene being dead, but we haven't seen a body.
Dec 13, 2019 10:43 PM

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When Watson confronted Moriarty, I was like "Is he a red herring?" Now, I am quite confused. Normally, I'd believe Kyogoku was Jack, but I also know Moriarty is always a villain, so I am considering the possibility of Kyougoku being manipulated.


For now, at least, I'm pretty sure Sherlock and Moriarty were playing Watson to make him act the way he did to get Kyougyoku to come forward.
As for who's the real Jack, I don't know. It does seem Kyougyoku is just obcessed with being the one who solves the case, rather than being the culprit himself.

Moriarty is always a villain, but he's a villain who doesn't get his own hands dirty, so imo, he might still be behind everything, it's just very unlikely that he actually is a murderer.
Dec 14, 2019 1:54 AM

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well say what? irene is really dead.. Rip the second best detective in this anime
Dec 14, 2019 2:39 AM

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Irene's case of "being slashed to death" just makes the case more dirty to all involved: Sherlock's friendship with her and the case as his own failure to decipher, Moriarty's sudden involvement in the case, and Watson's inability to crack the case surrounding Jack the Ripper and Moriarty, who knew where they temporarily stayed.

And of course, without the knowledge of who Jack is, and with Moriarty being highly suspect, the shadow of Irene's spirit comes to haunt him of the deadly truth (if that "truth" was ever correct). IMO if Moriarty was ever a murderer to begin with, he would be nothing more than a proxy/3rd party for someone to commit the murder so he could let the real culprit (Jack) escape with him being the scapegoat.

And with this convoluted plot, Watson has no choice ut to trust in the other detectives to help him crack this case. About Kyogoku though, more than his eccentric goal to track down Jack, all the well he could be Jack manipulated.
Dec 14, 2019 5:23 AM

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Irene's death is weird. The whole situation is weird.
Dec 14, 2019 5:57 AM

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RPWPA said:
Jesse200000000 said:


I don't think she's dead either I think Sherlock is just telling people that in case they're Jack to keep her safe
Anyways good episode so curious where this goes, also curious what will happen after these 12 episodes (seen as MAL has it listed for 24 so) so where will it go after Jack is revealed, we gonna get another over arching plot or will it just go to like a Monster of the Week style like it had already. Guess all we can really do is wait and see what happens


I hope the idea with jack ends soon tbh. Ignoring the issue since episode 1 was annoying so getting it over with and moving on would be much better.


That case in ep1 isn't meant to be solved right away, it's there to show Jack has done that multiple times and nobody is able to catch him coz he's that good, they're not ignoring it, they just don't have enough clue, like Jack is our last boss ya know, if that got solved in the first episode then the show would've ended then and there
Dec 14, 2019 8:07 AM

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YggdraSEED said:
RPWPA said:


I hope the idea with jack ends soon tbh. Ignoring the issue since episode 1 was annoying so getting it over with and moving on would be much better.


That case in ep1 isn't meant to be solved right away, it's there to show Jack has done that multiple times and nobody is able to catch him coz he's that good, they're not ignoring it, they just don't have enough clue, like Jack is our last boss ya know, if that got solved in the first episode then the show would've ended then and there


Yeah I get that but having 0 development for 10 episodes and ignoring the case constantly whenever the MC would talk about it is just annoying.
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Dec 14, 2019 9:10 AM

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I don't know how to feel about Sherlock and Moriarty using Watson like that. I mean, I understand why they would fool him in order to fool the enemy though. He doesn't seem capable of acting and/or lying convincingly. And it's weird that he doubted Moriarty to the point of hallucinating, and what's the deal with Kyogoku suddenly going crazy for that USB? lol Well, it will soon become clear. At least Sherlock finally asked Watson about his case.
Dec 14, 2019 9:17 AM

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Ok, I would have love that Moriarty be the Jack The Ripper, but it turns out to be that neat freak Kyogoku
Dec 14, 2019 11:57 AM

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I don't understand why the score is this low. It's got a good plot and interesting characters. A LOT better than your average RPG or loli show.
Dec 14, 2019 12:31 PM
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Ok, I would have love that Moriarty be the Jack The Ripper, but it turns out to be that neat freak Kyogoku


I think he (kyogoku) knows that maki is the culprit and since he is so into her he's probably just trying to take the USB away from the other detectives.
Dec 14, 2019 7:47 PM
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wait what? that was unexpected, well I been waiting for a plot twist so this anime never fail me, but for some reason, I felt something went wrong
Dec 14, 2019 8:45 PM

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I also still don't believe Irene is dead.

I'm guessing the chubby Maki is Jack. I just have a feeling. That's why Kyogoku is so desperate to be the one to "find" Jack because he loves her.
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Dec 15, 2019 6:36 AM
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I am liking this anime!!Too bad it is rated low,not that it matters really!!I am enjoying this anyways!!
Dec 15, 2019 7:33 AM
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Nice to see Mycroft again.
Dec 18, 2019 1:36 AM

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Well so Maki is jack the ripper or she is somehow related to him atleast.
Dec 19, 2019 2:27 PM
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here's my opinions

May 8, 2020 1:01 PM
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Worst episode yet imo, everything is just off the rails ridiculous.
Jan 16, 2021 1:23 PM

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I really feel bad for Watson, hallucinating and even thinking that the suspicious Moriarty is Jack while everyone just laughs at him. I kind got the feeling that Moriarty, Holmes and probably the still alive Irene just used Watson as bait to see who Jack is which feels like a shitty thing to do to him even if he is bad at lying.

Mar 13, 2021 10:47 AM

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And as I thought, Irene should be not dead and I hope it. Seems getting closer to Jack now. It's not Moriarty.

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