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Aug 8, 2018 3:11 AM
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Darling in the FranXX was one of the most popular winter season shows and also one of the most controversial in the anime community. How do you think Darling in the FranXX has affected the mecha genre as a whole? For the better? Or for the worse? What are your thoughts on this?
Aug 8, 2018 3:12 AM
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Mecha?? I thought it was waifu bait porn anime?
Aug 8, 2018 3:14 AM
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I'd say if it did, the impact of Darling in the Franxx to the mecha genre was very and undeniably bad.
Aug 8, 2018 3:14 AM
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An Eva rip-off that went terribly bad. I bet in the future it will be long forgotten.
Aug 8, 2018 3:16 AM
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>affected the mecha genre
Oh yeah, a forgettable waifu bait junk sure as hell will have an impact on the genre. Spoiler: not.
Aug 8, 2018 3:17 AM
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I don't think it will have much if any impact on the mecha genre.
Aug 8, 2018 3:17 AM
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I think it was too small to affect the mecha genre, they sold good but 10 years from now we won't
be talking about it. As for the waifu war genre it made a huge contribution.
Aug 8, 2018 3:18 AM
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It sure made a big impact on my dick tho
Aug 8, 2018 3:19 AM
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it likely wont result in an increase of mecha shows :(
Aug 8, 2018 3:19 AM

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I doubt that the show ll have a big effect on the mecha genre as a whole because seasonal anime become almost irelevant regardless of their popularity just a few weeks/months after they stop airing. Once the next waifu war anime comes out nobody ll talk about the show anymore.
Aug 8, 2018 3:37 AM

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Sure it had mechs but FranXX was more of a teenage drama soap opera than a mecha anime.
Aug 8, 2018 3:45 AM
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My mom has more Mex than darling in the franxx
Aug 8, 2018 5:35 AM

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It gave mecha anime a bad name of what was supposed to be a comeback, at least we still have gundam.
Aug 8, 2018 5:48 AM
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Darling in the franxx was a big disappointment, it was not that good.

Aug 8, 2018 6:12 AM

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To influence the genre anime has to be really unique and extraordinary. Which Franxx is not, since it doesn't have any original ideas, it's just a mashup of ideas from different popular anime (Eva, Guilty Crown, Lagann etc.)
Aug 8, 2018 6:13 AM

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Honestly, if it has any effect at all, I can almost guarantee it won't be a positive one. It could incentivize creating shows that try to hard to be other shows that they lose their own identities, or could force mecha shows to invest even more in waifu marketing than they do in mecha marketing (like one FranXX's case, assuming Eva and Geass haven't inadvertently done this already, which still isn't a big trend with mecha). It could even bring back the rise of post-Eva mecha shows that Dies out somewhere in the mid-2000's. I don't see other possible negative impacts, and even those two are pushing it (and arguably already exist in the case of the former).

The only remotely positive impact I see being even remotely plausible would be the idea of having more anime be full-on collaborations between several studios.

And yes, a large part of why I only really see negative is because I only really see negative aspects of this show. I am hard-pressed to find something worth complements about FranXX.
Aug 8, 2018 6:15 AM

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OP it affected merchandise and stage plays in Nippon that's for sure lol.

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Mecha?? I thought it was waifu bait porn anime?

waifu bait porn anime?? I thought it was *cheap waifu bait porn anime.

Aug 8, 2018 6:17 AM

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Darling in the Franxx doesn't really have much mecha when comparing to other mecha anime,like Gundam and Frame Arm Girls as what I have heard of.

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Aug 8, 2018 6:39 AM

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i really doubt it's gonna influence the genre in the slightest
it turned out to be nothing at all interesting or innovating
Aug 8, 2018 6:50 AM

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It suck. Overrated anime of the year. I thought it was a soft ecchi/harem/porn anime. Forgot it was mecha.
Aug 8, 2018 7:35 AM

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It may actually have some impact on the mecha genre if that actually was one of the main hooks. But no, it was just seasonal waifu bait.
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Aug 8, 2018 2:29 PM

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mecha genre xD

I like mecha genre but this anime is bad in every sense. 99% don't give a fuck about the robots, maybe a 1% care about it......80% about the forgettable waifu bait Zero Two. 19% or 20% about the plot. All I care about is the bad plot.
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Aug 9, 2018 8:46 AM

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HappyDanceWeeb said:
Darling in the FranXX was one of the most popular winter season shows and also one of the most controversial in the anime community. How do you think Darling in the FranXX has affected the mecha genre as a whole? For the better? Or for the worse? What are your thoughts on this?
It won't affect anything, get at me when it reaches the same level as Gundam. Maybe then it might do something...

CodeBlazeFate said:
Honestly, if it has any effect at all, I can almost guarantee it won't be a positive one. It could incentivize creating shows that try to hard to be other shows that they lose their own identities, or could force mecha shows to invest even more in waifu marketing than they do in mecha marketing (like one FranXX's case, assuming Eva and Geass haven't inadvertently done this already, which still isn't a big trend with mecha). It could even bring back the rise of post-Eva mecha shows that Dies out somewhere in the mid-2000's. I don't see other possible negative impacts, and even those two are pushing it (and arguably already exist in the case of the former).

The only remotely positive impact I see being even remotely plausible would be the idea of having more anime be full-on collaborations between several studios.

And yes, a large part of why I only really see negative is because I only really see negative aspects of this show. I am hard-pressed to find something worth complements about FranXX.
What "post-Eva mecha shows"?
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Cabron said:
HappyDanceWeeb said:
Darling in the FranXX was one of the most popular winter season shows and also one of the most controversial in the anime community. How do you think Darling in the FranXX has affected the mecha genre as a whole? For the better? Or for the worse? What are your thoughts on this?
It won't affect anything, get at me when it reaches the same level as Gundam. Maybe then it might do something...

CodeBlazeFate said:
Honestly, if it has any effect at all, I can almost guarantee it won't be a positive one. It could incentivize creating shows that try to hard to be other shows that they lose their own identities, or could force mecha shows to invest even more in waifu marketing than they do in mecha marketing (like one FranXX's case, assuming Eva and Geass haven't inadvertently done this already, which still isn't a big trend with mecha). It could even bring back the rise of post-Eva mecha shows that Dies out somewhere in the mid-2000's. I don't see other possible negative impacts, and even those two are pushing it (and arguably already exist in the case of the former).

The only remotely positive impact I see being even remotely plausible would be the idea of having more anime be full-on collaborations between several studios.

And yes, a large part of why I only really see negative is because I only really see negative aspects of this show. I am hard-pressed to find something worth complements about FranXX.
What "post-Eva mecha shows"?
Stuff like RahXephon, De;Vadasy, Brain Powerd, and this show. Some are considered actually decent shows that were more than just the sum of their parts (that sum being Evangelion) but others are considered just utter trash that wanted to basically replicate Eva's success and actions without understanding what made Eva work or how to work beyond just being slightly different from Eva. There weren't all that many out there but some are definitely not known for any real quality.
Aug 9, 2018 10:36 AM

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It was probably intended to be like Evangelion, Gurren Lagann, etc, where it would revive the mecha genre and up it's popularity, but it instead made it worse. If you're looking for a good mecha anime, please look at ones from the 80s and 90s,
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ZetaKai1219 said:
It was probably intended to be like Evangelion, Gurren Lagann, etc, where it would revive the mecha genre and up it's popularity, but it instead made it worse. If you're looking for a good mecha anime, please look at ones from the 80s and 90s,


I doubt that much thought went into it. It didn't really venture past bloated teenage drama.
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CodeBlazeFate said:
Cabron said:
It won't affect anything, get at me when it reaches the same level as Gundam. Maybe then it might do something...

What "post-Eva mecha shows"?
Stuff like RahXephon, De;Vadasy, Brain Powerd, and this show. Some are considered actually decent shows that were more than just the sum of their parts (that sum being Evangelion) but others are considered just utter trash that wanted to basically replicate Eva's success and actions without understanding what made Eva work or how to work beyond just being slightly different from Eva. There weren't all that many out there but some are definitely not known for any real quality.
RahXephon was more of a modern update of Raideen from the 70s. Brain Powerd (which had different ideas and themes) was already happening way before Eva was a thing. Can't comment on De;Vadasay since I haven't seen it.

All those ideas and themes mentoined in Eva were already present in other previous works, all Mr. Anno did was just bring them to the forefront.
CabronAug 12, 2018 12:47 AM
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

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Cabron said:
CodeBlazeFate said:
Stuff like RahXephon, De;Vadasy, Brain Powerd, and this show. Some are considered actually decent shows that were more than just the sum of their parts (that sum being Evangelion) but others are considered just utter trash that wanted to basically replicate Eva's success and actions without understanding what made Eva work or how to work beyond just being slightly different from Eva. There weren't all that many out there but some are definitely not known for any real quality.
RahXephon was more of a modern update of Raideen from the 70s. Brain Powerd (which had different ideas and themes) was already happening way before Eva was a thing. Can't comment on De;Vadasay since I haven't seen it.

All those ideas and themes mentoined in Eva were already present in other previous works, all Mr. Anno did was just bring them to the forefront.
Indeed, that show was somewhere in development before Eva came out, but obviously, there's still the possibility that Tomino worked some of Eva's idea into the script given how much later Brain Powerd came out, not that this is a guarantee. Brain Powerd's ideas generally aren't that different, often coming off as a sort of reverse of Eva (kids are the parents of these mechs instead of the other way around, and yet the kids in both are orphans with daddy and/or mommy issues that are important to their roles in the narrative. Can't comment much on RahXephon since I haven't seen it, but it is considered to be one of these shows. De;Va goes hardcore on apeing from Eva to the point of having incredibly similar names for its characters as to those from Eva, and a character called Dr. Anno, and some important plot ideas lifted from Evangelion. Sure, some of the ideas in Eva had existed before, but there's a reason there wasn't a show that was all that comparable to Eva until after Eva came out, outside of certain ideas presented in works like Ideon and Gunbuster.
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It had so much potential but all went to waste. The balance between romance and action was not proper and which lead to such a mediocre or below mediocre end to Darling in the franxx. I'm happy to see that the score went below 8 and should drop more that is what I think. Anyways the wave this anime created in the community was huge but left with an utter disappointment. Most probably people won't even remember about Darling in the franxx existed.
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Mix of poor writing,drama and mecha hype.Too ridiculous the robot design and those monsters.Disguissing cliche anime as mecha a new strategy or what??at least it seems more enjoyable than shitty crown...
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MOB_ABOMINATOR said:
It had so much potential but all went to waste. The balance between romance and action was not proper and which lead to such a mediocre or below mediocre end to Darling in the franxx. I'm happy to see that the score went below 8 and should drop more that is what I think. Anyways the wave this anime created in the community was huge but left with an utter disappointment. Most probably people won't even remember about Darling in the franxx existed.
I think one of the biggest issues was that there were too many characters to cover. Main character require a lot of screentime in order to develop and to explain there backstories. Too many main characters and we end up with either not enough time per character or some just getting completely ignored.
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The only mecha in this show was the plantations and the training units. Biological beings cannot be mecha. Even if you can get inside them, and can control them, like a woman.
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Well there is one more thing I have to mention: the Mecha genre was already dying and this just made it worse.
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HappyDanceWeeb said:
Darling in the FranXX was one of the most popular winter season shows and also one of the most controversial in the anime community. How do you think Darling in the FranXX has affected the mecha genre as a whole? For the better? Or for the worse? What are your thoughts on this?


Are you suggesting it might be the Fourth Impact of the japanhat?se animation or something like that?

@CodeBlazeFate I wanted to ring you but you're already part of this thread !
Seeing how Tomino and Anno shared the same frustrations and some desires (as highlighted in their conjoint interview from early 90s), it isn't hard to think that Brain thing was already looking a lot like its definitive form when EVA appeared.
You forgot Argento Soma, Neo Ranga and then some. And that's only to stay within the limited range of "post-EVA mecha shows".


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mashup of ideas from different popular anime (Eva, Guilty Crown, Lagann etc.)

I thought Guilty Crown had little original material and was a mashup of ideas from EVA made into a shiny-looking series full with cooler than cool things.
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Calling Franxx mecha is an insult to the genre. It's a robutt anime with more teen drama than action scenes.
And it won't affect anything.
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I didn't watched any other Mecha Anime before Darling in the FranXX, but surely it gave me huge effect watching this.

It was inspired story about these two creatures, who loved each other no matter they are different. Shortly, I don't know does this Anime left huge impact in the Mecha genre, but I loved watching it because that huge journey in the end and klaxosaurs base.

I still don't understand why Anime viewers look at his Anime negative, but I don't mind that separate details. how much effort these creators left, I was more concern about story and it don't left me any issues.

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