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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Ah, Kino's journey once again takes her to an interesting country. This one is rather normal and a character she meets is not out of the ordinary. (Well, except this older guy with some personal logic about killing) I kinda like how this episode took on a more casual approach with the cooking elements. Yes, culinary arts in this anime. Again, I really like the character chemistry between Kino and Hermes. |
Stark700Dec 1, 2017 8:43 AM
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| Today it's a mix of different countries. Perfect example of more is not always better. Felt like 20m of different shorts. Not going to prison for murder, because you have enough good deed points..here comes another weird country. The old man is struggling with the system and it makes sense. Probably they should make people go to jail for committing cerain crimes, regardless of points accumulated. While it's true that a good person can do bad things once; there should be a limit about what. |
| It's going more and more into short stories episodes, not the best choice, but might've been hard to come up with quite long and entertaining stories. The first outpost-one was pretty funny, well PTSD from Kino's master =/ And yeah Kino is really beatiful as well as her master. Other than that it was decent. |
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| Several different countries were visited in this episode. That old man was struggling with his country's system. He got lots of points so he can kill someone. It's amusing Kino became known as the wondering chef. It was nice of Ti to wish everyone's wish to come true. Kino visited a country, but couldn't remember what happened because she was drugged. The same thing happened to her master. A note explained everything. |
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| This episode is okay... but I better like normal form. One country = one episode. |
| didn't really like this episode, was jumping from story to story way too much 1 country 1 episode, keep it like that. |
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Now I'm curious about that country, on the walls of the entrance and exit had impressive statues with swords in their hands, and a cross in the middle. Pretty curious xD  |
| The question isn't "What anime do you like?" That is merely a list. The question is "Why do you like it?" That tells a story. Your story. |
| Weird how the episode jumped from story to story this week, but it was inoffensive enough, even if they felt like they were just rushing through lots of content because of that. |
| I dislike how they crammed five stories into one episode. A bit unnatural to go from "old man considers killing a baby" to "dumb chefs get Kino to cook for them, how funny." The anime afterword was neat though. I'm glad your dream came true, Keiichi Sigsawa. |
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| I liked that country where you could earn points for doing good things. |
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| Kino is waifu material because best cook ever. [/joke] I did enjoy that cooking segment, but that animated afterword was the icing on the cake. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| Kino is Makoto Kikuchi in a parallel universe |
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| I loved the episode and even the original part was good since it was probably written by the author as well, Loved the afterword part as well, i'm happy i didn't just skip the ending or listen to it without looking at the anime, 10/10. |
| "Even if it has good reviews, if I don't like it then it is shit" -Some random anime character |
| Not the strongest episode but a good one nonetheless. The opening sequence with the bandits or whatever was kinda funny. xD The part with the country with honor points was interesting. The ED was the best part of the episode. |
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| I actually really liked the stories from this episode. It was varied, and I liked that they had different tone.While throughout most of the old man one, I thought it was weird I liked the ending. After living a whole life of good deeds, even if his intention was a bad deed, he couldn't bring himself to kill someone. He ended up not completing his life goal, and so he was unhappy about it. He told the baby dont end up like me and be happy, I think that can say a lot. |
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| The personal message from the author at the last, what was that actually mean? The Country of Anime Afterword? Is this the last episode? I don't understand at all!!!!!!! Someone please explain to me..... |
| He can spotted that Kino is a girl from miles away? What? Even I can't when I watched the original for few episodes xD Well I'm glad that elder didn't decide to attack Kino.. if he did, well *vietnam flashback So... If you can be a good person for a long time then kill someone, you're innocent? Huh seems fair xD Just walk away ossan, it's not worth after good things you did RIP people that ate KFC (Kino's Fried Chicken) Again this episode is just consist of short stories |
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| More than half these episodes have focused on someone other than Kino. People who haven't seen the original might think that Kino's Journey is just a compilation of stories about different travelers with no main character. |
| a mod podge of short and underdeveloped stories: exactly how NOT to adapt an episode of Kino. fuck you, Lerche. |
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| It sure was a little bit of everything ... the switch to comedy, then serious then comedy again this episode was pretty jarring |
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| I really liked the first story about the country of memories. In the end, before the old man knew it, the system had effectively converted him and made him into a good man. Although of course it is up to the viewer's interpretation, I believe the old man will die without ever killing someone. |
| Nothing can happen until you swing the bat. |
| I enjoyed all of the short stories, just maybe cutting it down from 5 stories to 2 or 3 would've been more appropriate. The series seems like it's doing some weird experimental things with pacing and character introductions, is it just me? The afterword gave me serious The Little Prince vibes. |
Mouloxas said: And girlish fanservice shots of Kino are absolutely unacceptable. There are people that don't know that she's a girl. I don't even think the series had directly revealed that before this episode. Yeah, good job Lerche... There wasn't any fanservice shots, you're confusing your doujin websurfing for the show. Everyone knows she's a girl the second she opens her mouth because they got a woman for the voice. Also, if you'd been paying ANY attention, it was "revealed" almost right from the start of the series. |
| Don't forget to watch the ED this time guys. It contains the author's afterword |
| Upbeat, was enjoyable if a bit frantic. |
| Today's episode was a complete random. Likely to say, it was so funny. Kino's friend chicken comes with two versions. The country that has ability to erase memories,it may be better at least they show us some part of Kino during she's enjoying herself to that country. This episode wasn't bad at all. |
Mouloxas said: Sokah said: There wasn't any fanservice shots, you're confusing your doujin websurfing for the show. ANY shot of Kino looking even relatively feminine has no place in this show. One of the biggest aspects of Kino's journey is her being gender-neutral. Kino is Kino. Just a traveller, a passive observer of the world. Her gender is completely irrelevant and the show MUST NEVER draw attention to her the way this episode did. Sokah said: Everyone knows she's a girl the second she opens her mouth because they got a woman for the voice. Also, if you'd been paying ANY attention, it was "revealed" almost right from the start of the series. Tell that to all the people that think she is a boy. Because never before was a young boy voiced by a woman, right? Also, the way Kino and everyone else refers to her is ambiguous. There are many ways to adress someone in a way that doesn't reveal their gender in the Japanese grammar. In English, of course they have to translate it to "she" because "it" is disrespectful and dehumanizing. So, in most instances where her gender is apparently revealed, it's because of translation errors. Sangaz said: Yup. Like Shizu going from calling her Kino-kun to calling her Kino-san after Riku whispers in his ear to let him know. That was an extremely subtle hint and there is absolutely no way for anyone that hasn't watched the original or read the LNs to understand that Kino is a girl just from that.. this is how the novel Illustrated Kino during the bandit's story.  The novel also has an additional line where the elder bandit saying Kino's round eyes are cute. Are you saying the author himself as well as the illustrator misgender Kino? The novel while usually use gender neutral, tend to refer Kino as a girl whenever the story wants something specific. Kino herself doesn't care much. HenshinDrift said: The personal message from the author at the last, what was that actually mean? The Country of Anime Afterword? Is this the last episode? I don't understand at all!!!!!!! Someone please explain to me..... Keiichi Sigsawa is obsessed by making the most outrageous afterwords ever seen in the history of light novel, dude keeps pushing the boundaries (both placement and format). Kino no Tabi's non-standard afterwords are practically the series staple (much to Kino's dismay). And as for why he put it in the 9th episode instead of ep 12... No reason really, he has history of putting them behind the dust jacket (behind the cover) or disguising it as chapter. In fact, Kino's & Hermes' banter during the ED was taken from "In a Place Like This -Preface-", volume 10's afterword. |
| This is definitely my fave episode of Kino so far. Jesus. First, that old man and that young adult targetting people and that old man apparently targeted Kino's Master back then, and he immediately had PTSD. Ohmygod. The two of them (Kino's master and her companion) really are monsters, huh? She straight up killed his comrades as a self-defense maybe. Lmao. The old man was the one figuring if the traveller is okay to be their prey. Shizu, Ti, and Riku almost became their prey, but the old man thinks they're capable of fighting. Same with Kino and Hermes. Haha. That young guy called Kino cute. Hihi. Ain't that true, maan? Haha. That Serious Killer part is so good. Kino and Hermes visited a country with a unique virtue points system (such thing don't exists irl lol), and it's apparently the one thing that can tell if someone's a good person or not (when they have negative points) in their country. How can someone earn points again? When someone witnessed their good deeds? Talk about publicity. Lol. Taylor Swift can do great here and still not behind bars. Pffft. So, they can tell how much someone contributed to the country by looking at their IDs. The fact that when a person has enough points to not get a negative points despite murdering someone fucks me up. And that old man Kino's talking to became the President of their country just to earn points and to kill someone. Jeez. You lived a good life, you earned enough points, but he has this weird fetish of killing someone and he targetted Kino. Lol. Like Kino can let you kill her. Not my Kino, maan. Please get your shit together, old man. You have a very weird ass and fucked up fetish. Second country Kino and Hermes visited this episode is a Country of Cooking. Original? Meaning this part is not in the previous anime? Anyhoo, this country is wherein when there are travelers they'll ask for them to cook then they'll make it their specialty if it has an impact? Am I wrong here? Haha. Love that country. They'll just accept no matter how horrible the cooking is as long as it has an impact. Obviously, Kino can't cook for shit. Haha. The silliest folks so far. Haha. They're all cute. That country is all about foods. Love it! Can I live there? Lol. Shizu, Ti, and Riku visited that country and heard Kino's name in the specialty dishes. Lmao. Just a question, so Kino came back to that country and cooked for them again for they introduced another dish featuring Kino's name (Kino's mild fried chicken)? Or someone pretended to be her? Uhhh. Shizu is still busy looking for a country who accepts immigrants for them to live. That last country Kino and Hermes visited messed me up so bad. WE'RE ALL KINO HERE, FOLKS! We don't know what happened in that country. We can't remember. We want to know what happiness Kino felt. And it's the country Kino's Master told her about she'll never forget, and yet we can't know and remember because it's one of the rules of that country that once you left their country, you have to drink a drug to forget. Jesus. It hurts. Country of Beautiful Memories, my ass. ;-; Thanks for fucking me up, show, with that last country. I felt Kino there, maaan. She was smiling in that drawing. GAAAAAAAAAAH! 5/5 for the suffering! ;-; |
     "Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪  ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| An okay episode with a mix of different countries. I enjoyed the cooking segment and adding the author's afterword in the ED was nice. |
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Shinraro said: this is how the novel Illustrated Kino during the bandit's story. The novel also has an additional line where the elder bandit saying Kino's round eyes are cute. Are you saying the author himself as well as the illustrator misgender Kino? The novel while usually use gender neutral, tend to refer Kino as a girl whenever the story wants something specific. Kino herself doesn't care much. Everybody misgenders Kino in this show, that's the point. The correct word here would be misportrayal. And yes, that illustration is not good, she looks way too girly for someone that is supposed to be portrayed as gender-neutral. And i've always heard complaints about the novel's illustrations. Still, at the very least, the novel had clearly stated that Kino is a girl at that point. Here, that is not clear at all, many viewers don't know/aren't certain whether Kino is a boy or a girl. Unless you treat this as a sequel, which it is not. It's more like a reboot. |
MouloxasDec 2, 2017 5:13 AM
TheDoggoneGirl said: Second country Kino and Hermes visited this episode is a Country of Cooking. Original? Meaning this part is not in the previous anime? Anyhoo, this country is wherein when there are travelers they'll ask for them to cook then they'll make it their specialty if it has an impact? Am I wrong here? Haha. Love that country. They'll just accept no matter how horrible the cooking is as long as it has an impact. Obviously, Kino can't cook for shit. Haha. The silliest folks so far. Haha. They're all cute. That country is all about foods. Love it! Can I live there? Lol. Shizu, Ti, and Riku visited that country and heard Kino's name in the specialty dishes. Lmao. Just a question, so Kino came back to that country and cooked for them again for they introduced another dish featuring Kino's name (Kino's mild fried chicken)? Or someone pretended to be her? Uhhh. It was the real wandering chef, notice the yellow jacket draped beside him when he ate KFC. Mouloxas said: Everybody misgenders Kino in this show, that's the point. The correct word here would be misportrayal. And yes, that illustration is not good, she looks way too girly for someone that is supposed to be portrayed as gender-neutral. And i've always heard complaints about the novel's illustrations. Still, at the very least, the novel had clearly stated that Kino is a girl at that point. Here, that is not clear at all, many viewers don't know/aren't certain whether Kino is a boy or a girl. Unless you treat this as a sequel, which it is not. It's more like a reboot. You're missing the point of that scene and illustration: She looks girly because we're seeing from the young bandit's POV who find Kino cute, she was drawn normally (like how she looks for the rest of 2017 anime) in other illustrations. Just like how Master looks comically evil because we're seeing them from the traumatized elder's POV. Shizu's group looks normal because the bandits doesn't find them anything to note (beside not fitting as target). That scene was supposed to be kino's gender reveal. It was done casually to reflect how the series treat her gender in general, Kino just doesn't give two shit about her gender. |
ShinraroDec 2, 2017 7:09 AM
| Bunch of random episode, but I like it. I like episodes where Hermes talks a lot, I don't know but his voice is very calming for me. |
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| I never got why fans, be from the first show or this one, took keeping Kino's "secret" of being a girl alive or spoilers for so long. IT like has almost no effect or importance to me. Kino and Shizuo were quite lucky the old dude was traumatized in the past, no way they had a reaction for that sniper. |
| Jaywalker. |
| The mixture of this episode was really interesting. The first country was really crazy and thought provoking. We only got a small portion of what Shizu and Ti were doing, and then a really cool segment of Kino and the country that she couldn't remember lol. Stuttered very differently from the other episodes, I think it was a good turn. Mouloxas said: And girlish fanservice shots of Kino are absolutely unacceptable. There are people that don't know that she's a girl. I don't even think the series had directly revealed that before this episode. Yeah, good job Lerche... I didn't see any fanservice. What are you referring to?? |
demisionDec 2, 2017 12:34 PM
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| This is my favorite episode in the new series so far, except maybe the first episode... There's one thing I noticed while watching this episode though. I was thinking back to the original while watching this, how some episodes in the original had Kino go to multiple countries in the same episode similar to this episode (im thinking of the land of prophecies from the original) The major difference that I noticed was that in this new episode, the countries are just standalone stories, like mini episodes. That's not at all a bad thing, I actually like that approach, but none of the stories are connected (again not a bad thing it's just something I noticed). In the episode from the original I was talking about earlier, all the countries Kino went to in that episode all linked together without the countries even realizing it in a way that I won't go into further detail about since some people haven't seen the original. I know this new episode wasn't going for anything like that but it would have been pretty cool to see that kind of episode format being revisited. Enough about the original. I do like the episode, and the whole story with the old man and the points system was interesting. I dont understand one thing about that though. He had enough points to kill someone technically, but if he did that then wouldn't everyone hate him and not want him to be president anymore? Also shouldn't there be some crimes that no matter how many points a person has they still end up with negative points to avoid things like murder? I guess that's just how it is in that country, definitely not a place I would settle down in. |
 So...the first story was a harmless allegory comparing Kino, Shizu and The Master again, but I forget what else. It's been 9 episodes, but now that Kino's gender is revealed, I finally get a chance to say this: Tomboys are a miracle of the universe Lack of subtlety be damned. Anyways, second story is about a city built around a forum karma system. That's hilarious, but that aside, it's interesting to see that ex-president lament his failure to realize his dream of killing someone treated as a sort of tragedy. I'm not sure if the intent with that last scene was him realizing that he was a messed up person, or if he was telling the baby to not grow up as someone who couldn't live up to his own aspirations. While the point system measures how successful and/or helpful someone is in this society, it may not measure one's own self worth in that regard. As in, while others may view you as a great person, you yourself may not think the same way, which is what the old man may have been trying to get at. The third story was probably the most anime-esque of all the Kino stories in this adaptation thus far, for lack of a better word. It was really forward with its presentation, and I almost expected some manner of over-exaggeration with regards to visual style and character motions. It somewhat reminds me of some of Ergo Proxy's wacky episodes that felt out of place, but I liked that it involved both Kino and Shizu on the same general path. The fourth story seemed like one that drew from Buddhist traditions. Not necessarily the hanging of wishes, which reminds me of the bit for Tanabata where people hang papers with written wishes on trees. It also reminds me of Thai temples where you rub gold leaf onto statues for good luck and such. Though, it mostly seemed like a casual aside that went by really fast, quickly commenting on how wishing for things, for Ti, doesn't really do anything. Though, that may have been more of a way to make fun of Shizu's hapless attempt at trying to immigrate into the country. The fifth story...that was a strange one. I liked the idea that the country prevents conflicts by erasing memories of people who come by, which raises a lot of questions about how they even manage to function in that regard. It's also interesting that all we have to go off of is Hermes' word and the things Kino left to herself to prove that the stay even happened, let alone that it was pleasant. Similar to the Historic Country in one of the previous episodes, it can't be certain as to how the stay actually went since the actual details could have been altered. But, this is the first time in this adaptation that Kino truly reacted to something earnestly, and it...it was strange. She seemed...uncharacteristic of herself I guess? I suppose it was supposed to be a silly moment that lends to how Kino wants to experience the world, and thus losing memories of a place she had been to is very problematic, but the whole scene with her panicking and doing the comedic yell into a camera pan moving to the sky bit isn't really something that works for this kind of show. It...just feels off. In all, these short stories seemed mostly for fun. They can be dug into a bit, but as is, they're nice to get more looks into different places in the show's world. Also, that afterward by Keiichi Sigsawa was really nice. If anything, it may have been led into by the previous short about Ti's wish, where, in fact, Sigsawa's wish actually came true where he's had two TV adaptations of Kino's Journey, in addition to the short film by Shaft. By all intents and purposes, this is a novel that's disconnected in themes, stories, and characters, so having an anime adaptation is almost a miracle in and of itself. No matter what qualms I may have about how this season has been conducting itself, at the end of the day, it's still really cool to see more Kino. Also, we're getting the Kind Country next? Wow. Without spoilers, this probably the reason why having Aoi Yuuki voice Kino was a perfect casting choice. |
| Wow, Kino was actually in Kono's Journey. But, 5 segments was a bit much. |
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Mouloxas said: Shocked said: Also, we're getting the Kind Country next? Wow. Without spoilers, this probably the reason why having Aoi Yuuki voice Kino was a perfect casting choice. Do we know I haven't heard anything yet, so I suppose that'll be a surprise. |
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