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Sep 9, 2017 8:21 AM
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Interesting, we got to see Karna getting some action this episode.

Sieg vs Mordred is very intense and I love the way they captured both characters' movements and expressions. Decent chereography as well. Ruler got involved in his conflict as expected. Tbh, I like the style they're going with the battles so far from the show. Both sides are getting their moments but Karna stood out a lot this episode compared to the others imo. Never underestimate Darnic either.
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Sep 9, 2017 8:32 AM
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I must say this adaptation is having several action and is very entertaining. The fight between Mordred and Sieg was good and the next events were good.

I am confident that they will continue with a great progression in the next episodes.





Sep 9, 2017 8:53 AM
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The last 5 episodes have been really entertaining in me eyes and it seems that's how is gonna be for a couple more as well. Also

Sep 9, 2017 10:55 AM
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HYPE for next episode, can't wait for
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The action was good this episode, even tho once they got into the Hanging Gardens suddenly every fight seemed a bit too slow. But it was cool nonetheless.

Karna and Vlad did not disappoint, even tho the Spartacus parts could've been better imho. Well, RIP now
Sep 9, 2017 11:33 AM
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The fight between Mordred and Sieg was so intense.
Sep 9, 2017 11:43 AM
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Nice ep. Finally Spa-p has been defeated.

And Jannu stops running for a moment, only to continue running afterwards, lol.

Karna was awesome.

Hype for next ep.
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Sep 9, 2017 12:40 PM
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Arguably the best part of Apo is being animated.The last couple of episodes were pretty good.

Karna was about to use his NP for the first time and then his master calls him back.Such a cockblock.
Sep 9, 2017 2:07 PM
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Nice episode. It was kinda centered on Kurolancer.

I though that the Archers were going to be at a dissadvantage in a closed space but it doesn't seem like it.


(I think that the people making my subs still believe that Astolfo is a girl and is hilarious)
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Nice episode. It was kinda centered on Kurolancer. Sadly, I know what is going to happen with him from reading the wiki some time ago.
I though that the Archers were going to be at a dissadvantage in a closed space but it doesn't seem like it.

Usually yes but Chiron is the guy that taught guys like Achilles and Hercules how to fight, so regardless of class he retains some of his close-combat expertise, notably in pankration. Also being the teacher allows him predict his student Achille's attacks better.
Sep 9, 2017 2:42 PM
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this episode was a lot better comparing to the previous, it got a better direction showing other characters and it had more development and finally something is going to happen. i got to admit the animation stood out and the fight were really good, still nothing for ruler BUT she activating her hogu was good.
Sep 9, 2017 3:09 PM

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That fight of Vlad vs Karna (before the Black Faction entered into the Hanging Gardens) have to be the best fight of the series so far, at least in the visual aspect. Both Lancers are awesome, too bad Karna had the leave the battlefield before having the chance to use his NP.

And Spartacus is gone, and with him the Berserker Class in this war is done for good. This has to be one of the weirdest representations of his figure in fiction. When one thinks in Spartacus, one thinks of a brave man fighting for the freedom of those who are oppresed, whereas in this he, is a dumb idiot who turns into a Resident Evil boss. The Berserkers from previous entries were intimidating, but I never found them creepy, Spartacus on the other hand...

Also, Jeanne's Luminosité Eternelle is sure a powerful defense, tanking such powerful explosion. Too bad it has it limits (according to the TM wiki).

Cannot wait to see that NP next episode.
Sep 10, 2017 1:02 AM

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Ok you guys watched in Raw? since all im finding is Raw no Subbed -.-


Yes, subs come out one or two days later, so people who already know the source material and/or can understand japanese usually watch it raw first
Sep 10, 2017 2:00 AM
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Animation of the Red Faction taking the greater grail is not what i expected when i read the source but nonetheless they adapted this episode exactly like i want.
Sep 10, 2017 3:36 AM

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When Jeanne activated her NP made me shudder

Sep 10, 2017 5:23 AM
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We got some more flag girl action!

And poor Vlad, it's looking like being Lancer is still suffering
Sep 10, 2017 6:31 AM
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When Jeanne activated her NP made me shudder




Yeah I was looking forward to it and it was really well done. Translations arent out yet but she says something along the lines of God is With Me and then the true name 'Luminosité Eternelle!' Just a guess, but Im going to assume that 'Luminosité Eternelle' means Eternal Light or Never ending Light. it would be fitting since she is basically asking for the light of God to rain down on her and bless her with near omnipotent invulnerability.
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janne is a completely worthless character that contradicts whatever the purpose of a ruler is supposed to be (which itself is not very clear)
jieg is omnipotent superman that can make heroes around him suicide and then transform himself into them and pink homo has literally no purpose other than being gay and cheerleading for superman
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Sep 10, 2017 10:04 AM

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Ah another Fate for Lancer
- Get stab with spear like weapon.
- Forced to do something they don't want with Command Speal.
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Sep 10, 2017 2:40 PM

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Once again, another good episode. The fight between Vlad vs Karna was intense. Seems like Vlad can't fight with his full potential in his own territory and he doesn't want to use his noble phantasms, which makes me curious to find out in the next episode. He was quite irritated about the way he is potrayed as 'Vlad the Impaler'.

Mordred and Sieg was great with Mordred expressions being scary.

Astolfo is such an easy going character.

Jeanne's smile is angelic. <3 If she can smile in every episode I will be satisfied.

Sep 10, 2017 3:08 PM
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That one Karna shot and how he got out of the situation with Vlad on the field was sublime! Loved that one. And damn, he teased a Noble Phantasm but didn't use it yet.

Let me just wild guess, Vlad would have been mincemeat if Karna used one.

Jeanne's NP blocking the NP of Spartacus was also something nice to look at.

Next episode should be great seeing that Darnic is forced to command Vlad for his NP, i'm interested what's gonna happen.
Sep 10, 2017 4:26 PM
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Animation is cringey but the action is good.
Sep 10, 2017 4:34 PM

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The action between Karna and Vlad was very intense in this episode, and we almost got to see Karna's NP. Looks like Spartacus is gone, he seemed like a waste of time tbh so I'm kind of happy about that.

Vlad is ashamed of his NP but it looks like Darnic is going to force him to use it in the next episode. That should be great to see.
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lol i love Karna so much. He's so polite. Hurry up and beat Vlad. He's cool too but I'm losing interest in him.

i'm guessing his secret NP has to do with dracula and blood?



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They didn't explain really well how Vlad's NP works and how Karna's defence works, namely how he managed to impale him, that was a bit disappointing.

RIP Spartacus. The 8th best heroine of summer 2017 won't be missed.

Can someone explain this to me? Does it make sense that they are able to lift/transport the greater grail just like that? I mean, it's a magic circle carved on the land. And even if they move the whole bedrock, i thought the grail could be summoned only in 4 places in Fuyuki. Maybe they have already explained this either in the anime or the LN and i wasn't paying attention.
Sep 10, 2017 6:25 PM

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Epic episode. I kind of want to see Drac's noble phantasm now.
Sep 10, 2017 7:09 PM

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Epic episode.

Jeanne, Atalanta, Semiramis and Mordred all in one episode is enough for me. <3 XD

Karna vs Vlad's fight was awesome, If Karna had actually pulled of his NP I wonder if Vlad might have actually been taken out.

Morded slicing up Spartacus was awesome.
Jeanne using her NP was absolutely amazing and that shot of her with weapon on the ground, flag flying and standing atop the cliff like debris was absolutely stunning. Jeanne ftw. <3

I like how the red faction moved over the black castle and put the latter on defense which also restricted Vlad's power. Really interested in what his NP is gonna be.
Sep 10, 2017 7:15 PM

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where are they even fighting now? are they inside that purple hurricane irma?
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Sep 10, 2017 7:42 PM

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So excited for next week! I don't fully know how this part with Vlad plays out, but it was easy to predict that Darnic would use his command seal to make it happen (after reading weeks ago that Vlad hate his NP). Well a lot of stuff in this series has been easy to predict, but that's besides the point :v

RIP Spartacus. I will miss your rambling
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This ep was really good, lot of fights, I would love to see more of Saber vs Saber anyway caps was really sick Vlad vs Karma was insane, huge fan of Karma, need more of red archer
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Sep 10, 2017 10:20 PM
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Karna vs Vlad's fight was awesome, If Karna had actually pulled of his NP I wonder if Vlad might have actually been taken out.
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OT: Great episode, the fights where pretty awesome. Especially Karna vs Vlad. Jeanne's smile can always warm our hearts. Looks like Dracula is about to be awakened next episode, looking forward to that.
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Sep 10, 2017 10:51 PM

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Good thing nothing bad happpened to Ruler ;-;
Sep 10, 2017 11:33 PM

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I think the only reason Black faction is alive is because they have the Grail in their castle otherwise, Karna can just nuke them all from the Hanging Garden and there's nothing they can do about it.
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I mean, it's a magic circle carved on the land. And even if they move the whole bedrock, i thought the grail could be summoned only in 4 places in Fuyuki. Maybe they have already explained this either in the anime or the LN and i wasn't paying attention.


The Grail that is summoned in those 4 places in Fuyuki is the Lesser Grail tho, the Greater Grail always stays in the same place, operating the system.
It can be took away and transplanted into another place, since that's basically what Darnic did, and in this case, I remember the novel addressing later on (so it's not time for that information yet) that Semiramis created a special room for the Grail, a whole different space in which it can be safe without spilling out any mana.
So, it will better explained later on. Shirou hinted at it by asking Semiramis if she made the changes he required her for the Gardens iirc
Sep 11, 2017 12:48 AM

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Cool episode with lots of cool fights and more flashy Noble Phantasm. Can't wait for


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janne is a completely worthless character that contradicts whatever the purpose of a ruler is supposed to be (which itself is not very clear)
jieg is omnipotent superman that can make heroes around him suicide and then transform himself into them and pink homo has literally no purpose other than being gay and cheerleading for superman
truly the greatest trio of main characters they could've put together for us

Couldn't agree more lol
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Vlad can't be underestimated inside his territory. Shocking, that he pierced the inpenentrable Aegis armour of Karna from the inside. But still a man should not be insolent as to a god and nonentheless one of Humanity's reason for existence, The Sun Lord Karna!!
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Sep 11, 2017 12:56 AM

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I was so glad to see a portrayal of Vlad the Impaler that was not a vampire, outside of Romanian made movies. But now we go to the old tropes and make him a vampire again.
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I was so glad to see a portrayal of Vlad the Impaler that was not a vampire, outside of Romanian made movies. But now we go to the old tropes and make him a vampire again.

Well, the most famous thing about the guy is because of his vampire portrayal, it kinda makes sense if he had something to reflect that.

That's exactly why I liked that they make him utterly hate his vampire Dracula portrayal, going as far as making his wish to the grail is just to clean his Dracula legends.
Sep 11, 2017 2:41 AM

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The banner fly once again for the good of the people, maybe she is a purest waifu in all times.

Talk about double standards here.
Everyone likes Mordred because she's cute girl, but if she was a male that fans will probably find that she is just another dense, screaming, shounen character that want to kill everyone and everything. But she is MOE so it can be forgivable.

Also if im not mistaken the legend of dracula was activated when Vlad was still on land.

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janne is a completely worthless character that contradicts whatever the purpose of a ruler is supposed to be (which itself is not very clear)

I know it is hard to understand for someone who don't know anything more about this beyond the anime.
Sep 11, 2017 2:50 AM

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Karna and Vlad fight didn't disappoint guessing that Vlad isn't in Romania anymore. Spartacus fight was really good but confused how he grew two dragon heads. Next episode should be good with Vlad using his np against Karna.
Sep 11, 2017 2:53 AM

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Karna vs Vlad is still going strong and is still awesome.
Sieg getting saved by everything and everyone.
Spartacus was the bomb this episode.
RIP you weird self-destructing mutant creature thing.
So Spartacus is about to blow and Sieg can't move. If you're Astolfo what do you do: A) Carry Sieg and ride away into the sunset or B) Scream like a child about how you don't want to leave Sieg and there's nothing you can do to help him
Jeanne's NP was really nice tho.
Sep 11, 2017 2:55 AM

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Well, Atalanta appeared briefly, only to 'give' Spartacus to Jeanne... And then gone... Noo.... At least Ata still alive XD.

The episode overall is very good, but then Spartacus should be portrayed better...

Mordred about to slash down both Astolfo and Sieg, before Spartacus 'saved' them XD.

From what i seen, what i want now is Jeanne's indestructible flag, and Atalanta XD.

By the way, bit off topic but... Yesterday i went to an anime fair and guess... Cosplayer playing Astolfo there XD. I dont take a photo though, and funny thing is, it is cosplayed by a girl.
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Sep 11, 2017 3:44 AM

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Spartacus was really gross.
Sep 11, 2017 4:41 AM

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Interesting idea to have Vlad hate his vampiric interpretation to the point of wanting to wipe it from history, but I'm curious to see what his other Noble Phantasm is that leans on that interpretation (why does he have 2 though? I thought Servants were only meant to have 1 Noble Phantasm?).
Sep 11, 2017 4:54 AM

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Interesting idea to have Vlad hate his vampiric interpretation to the point of wanting to wipe it from history, but I'm curious to see what his other Noble Phantasm is that leans on that interpretation (why does he have 2 though? I thought Servants were only meant to have 1 Noble Phantasm?).


Servants can have multiple Noble Phantasms, it just depends on their legend.
The standard is from one to three (even Arturia in FSN, counting Avalon, has two), but some can have more and Gilgamesh has... all of them kinda.

For example, Karna has three Noble Phantasms and Achilles four iirc.
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The fight between Vlad and Karna was impressive. The animation for the fight itself was pretty good too. It's a shame that Karna was called back just as he was about to use his noble phantasm. =(

Jeanne did an excellent job at using her noble phantasm to protect Sieg and Astolfo from Spartacus' noble phantasm, which was a freaking huge purple laser. Her smile she gave to Sieg just before she departed was really sweet. =)

I do want to see Vlad's other noble phantasm though, since he really was adamant that he doesn't want to use it at all. It looks like Darnic has other ideas though, so I'm interested t see what happens next with his plan.

Great episode overall. =)
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I remember the novel addressing later on (so it's not time for that information yet) that Semiramis created a special room for the Grail, a whole different space in which it can be safe without spilling out any mana.
So, it will better explained later on. Shirou hinted at it by asking Semiramis if she made the changes he required her for the Gardens iirc




What i want to know is: Does the grail have to be connected to the leylines to absorb huge amounts of mana from the earth in order to work? Or is it already "filled up" so to say?
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Mouloxas said:
LeloTheUnamused said:
I remember the novel addressing later on (so it's not time for that information yet) that Semiramis created a special room for the Grail, a whole different space in which it can be safe without spilling out any mana.
So, it will better explained later on. Shirou hinted at it by asking Semiramis if she made the changes he required her for the Gardens iirc






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What i want to know is: Does the grail have to be connected to the leylines to absorb huge amounts of mana from the earth in order to work? Or is it already "filled up" so to say?


It absorbs and stores mana from the leylines before using it. It's the same reason for why the HGW in Fuyuki is every 60 years or so, and the reason why it took Darnic that much to prepare for the Great War here in Apocrypha.
So, once it's "filled" and ready to summon Servants and open the path to the Root, it doesn't need to stay connected to the leylines. If forcefully removed from the ground it could spill out some of the accumulated mana tho, and without being connected to leylines it could not restore it

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Pretty much everything was already mentioned and I agree that this episode was very good in terms of action.

Also glad that Spartacus got wrecked, was honestly annoyed by him.

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Sep 11, 2017 6:00 AM

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got a lot of fight and it quite entertaining

can't wait to see the animated
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Sep 11, 2017 6:11 AM

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Just a question about pacing, to everyone that has read the LN:

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