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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Not bad, this episode had slightly more action. Meanwhile, I really hope Haruki is more careful about herself. Getting ambushed by Sakuin puts her at risk. I still feel like Kei and Urachi are playing some mind games with each other even though they seem to be on the same page. |
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| The main guy actually forces two people from the association, not just the main target. Others tries to fight against each other. More talk. Stop time of someone who's ability seems dangerous to save the user's life? To copy the ability to animal? Plans to use that girl around cats? It was to convince the guy who can stop the ability rather than the main target... Wow, he already talked to Sakura-san's character in the future when there's no more abilities. Finally convinced. The short hair girl's ability and memory are back. The tear... |
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| The conversation about the Plank of Carneades and their viewpoints was very good. I saw something coming since Tomoki was in the car but i didn't think he would try to get Kagaya to support him. That was such a good twist. I didn't think he would succeed but he did, what a madman, this Kei Asai. Souma though, she's in real despair now. I wonder what will happen in the finale, it looks sad as shit from the preview. |
| Awesome episode. I love Kei he is just way too smart compared to others Oh shiet Souma memories are back. :( |
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| Kei wasn't trying to convince Urachi at all, he knew it wasn't going to happen. He was trying to convince Kagaya the whole time and he did. That was smart of him. They had a very interesting conversation. Kei got to talk to another version of Urachi. Something happened to Sumire at the end. She's in complete despair. |
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| So Kei managed to succeed. I thought Tomoki was sending Kei's conversation with Urachi to some bureau member at the top. Didn't expect Kagaya to receive it. It was quite depressing looking at what happened to Sumire. That slight happiness she had is gone. |
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| That was pretty good episode. We finally get some action and best part was that roller coaster bike ride! I guess this episode was kind of the ending of the anime and all that's left is drama and the conclusion to our love triangle, cant w8 for the last episode! |
| The episode was pretty cool. The way how it went etc. it might've confused me with its' scenarios. But in the end it was trying to convince one another. Many problems were solved especially this one. However, one more remains, and that one is for next week. The preview of the next episode which is the finale. I believe it is going to hurt. 'Both' had a good amount of screen time honestly. Many can say that 'one' did not deserve what it 'got'. But all of that will be answered next week in the finale. One thing for sure it will break my heart. I do not know why. T_T |
| Imagine if Kei teamed up with Aizen........nobody would be able to stop their keikakus. Anyway, Kei's plan the whole time was to convince Kagaya, not Urachi. I swear he's always 7 steps ahead of everyone else. He and Urachi seem to be on good terms now. Felt bad for Souma at the end, she can't seem to catch a break on this show. |
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thebrentinator24 said: Imagine if Kei teamed up with Aizen........nobody would be able to stop their keikakus. . Bet they could make a better plan to face Yhwach and make a better ending for the bleach series lol That aside. What happened to Souma at the end? a lot of memories surely got introduced into her and for some reason her plan all along wasn't going to succeed (I believe that Kei foresaw this) boy, this Asai Kei is surely a Mastermind, I wouldn't want to have someone like him as a Villain hehe |
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| Welp, Kei did spend like 12 or 15 minutes in that photograph. Everything we saw these last two episodes were just due to all the planning he did after seeing the future and making contingencies for everything. What I don't understand now is: Does this mean that Masamune will give up on his ideals and try supporting Kei's childish wish to control all the powers of Sakurada now? Why would he give up so easily though? What's in it for him now? Also, it seems like we're getting some last minute drama with Sumire. Kei did tell her to leave town and come back in 48 hours or something like that. I'm not surprised that her memories returned. If anything, I'm surprised that she remembered she had to return to the town in the first place, since everything should have been nulled once she left town. How did they implant the trigger to convince her to return to the town when memories of powers and everything else were suppose to be wiped when she left? And what's this about her murmuring about how she was wrong? What exactly did she get wrong? |
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L-Ryoshi said: Welp, Kei did spend like 12 or 15 minutes in that photograph. Everything we saw these last two episodes were just due to all the planning he did after seeing the future and making contingencies for everything. What I don't understand now is: Does this mean that Masamune will give up on his ideals and try supporting Kei's childish wish to control all the powers of Sakurada now? Why would he give up so easily though? What's in it for him now? Also, it seems like we're getting some last minute drama with Sumire. Kei did tell her to leave town and come back in 48 hours or something like that. I'm not surprised that her memories returned. If anything, I'm surprised that she remembered she had to return to the town in the first place, since everything should have been nulled once she left town. How did they implant the trigger to convince her to return to the town when memories of powers and everything else were suppose to be wiped when she left? And what's this about her murmuring about how she was wrong? What exactly did she get wrong? I think that when you leave Sakurada you forget how to use your powers not everything that happened to you. That's how she knew that she needed to come back. What I got from that last scene was that "the old Sumire" already knew of this outcome and actually lead Kei to do all this for her own sake and not because of him. I think that this way she either "survived" or something will happen to Haruki. "The Witch” aka Sumire 2.0 didn't know about her former self real plans and that's why she is saying sorry to Kei. I wish Haruki had more personality at this point. I haven't seen any real growth from her. |
| 1: Kei controls the Administration Bureau 2: Souma controls Kei. 3: Souma controls the Administration. So the New Witch won't be forced to be a prisoner like her predecessor. Souma wins? |
| That line about a hero of justice versus being a good person is a good summary of this entire show. Kei is such a self-serving individual and it doesn't seem he's learned anything despite all of the thought experiments he's discussed over the course of the show. That's probably why he's so easily manipulated by Souma 1.0. |
syncrogazerSep 6, 2017 3:36 PM
| Fantastic and thoroughly engaging episode. I thought Urachi was going to rewind Kei's time as a last resort at the end there. But still placing the notebook in his hand is a bit questionable and had me worried. Hopefully the last episode resolves the Soma vs. Haruki conflict. |
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| Brilliant episode. The finale looks sad af! PLEASE END SOMA'S SUFFERING ALREADY! T_T I only want to see a happy ending... |
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| Excellent mind games between Kei and Urachi once again, and what a twist for the whole thing to actually be about convicing Kagaya instead, since Kei knew full well that he was never ever going to be able to convince Urachi to change his mind. Also, looks like we're getting all the drama with Soma next week to finish things off, so it'll be interesting to see how this show resolves its longest continuous plot thread. |
| the last scene was painfully beautiful. loved Ukawa's words. man I really couldn't care less about Kei x Haruki at this point bc I despise the latter passionately. I hope Souma gets a somewhat satisfying ending although the real Souma will never get one because she died possibly knowing this would happen. I don't know. |
demimondeSep 7, 2017 7:03 AM
| Aaww, Murase's cute scream. Now Urachi after all that talk about Plank of Carneades, what will you choose? To transfer the Power to a cat like Kei suggested, or... well I guess it's already too late for Urachi to realize that he's not the only target in this conversation. |
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| Poor Soma Sumire if kei's happen to choose Haruki again but it would be a sad too if Kei didn't choose Haruki. Arghhh, can't he choose both of them? i have the feeling in final episode that Asai Kei might sacrificed his own life to save the ability of Sakurada's town and the girls. Please Asai-kun, don't make those girls cry. I wish the happy ending |
| Kei is really brilliant, but in his case not because other characters are incompetent, he just is. I was kinda annoyed by Masamune and his stubborness first, but great that Kei found a way out with convincing Kagaya. Soma is the only problem left now, ready for somw drama. |
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syncrogazer said: That line about a hero of justice versus being a good person is a good summary of this entire show. Kei is such a self-serving individual and it doesn't seem he's learned anything despite all of the thought experiments he's discussed over the course of the show. That's probably why he's so easily manipulated by Souma 1.0. I agree completely. I'd add that he's so focused on his love for abilities that he's been ignoring what the show's been shoving in our faces the entire series: he's only had to worry about fixing all these problems because abilities exist in the first place. I've said it before, but every ability I've seen can be tied to some noticeable mental or emotional fault in the person that uses said ability. Just like Urachi has said: instead of helping themselves, they've been using their abilities as a crutch. Instead of giving these people the chance to better themselves naturally and outgrow their faults, Kei is content to keep them as they are for the sake of his own entertainment. |
| "To be Great is to be misunderstood." - Ralph Waldo Emerson SaigoKensei said: My mistake was assuming they had the same amount of information I had.. |
| I'm glad Souma's getting some attention in the last episode, even if it's based around yet another plot hole. Good job ignoring reality while accusing others of it, Kei. I hate that kid. Souma is wasted on him. The ending here is the latest plot hole. Now Souma copy #1 gets all of the memories from every Souma? Not from the moment she came into existence, but just now? That doesn't sit well with me at all. Not after all the times they've made a point of letting us know they're different people. The show used another retcon in this episode too: "Oh look, he went back to see Urachi for TWO HOURS when the world was without abilities and they're just throwing that in there now that they needed to." Don't get me wrong, I still like it. It's just not as solid as I had originally been convinced it was. Then again, most of the holes I've seen basically exist to keep Souma a part of the show. So I guess they're not all bad.. |
SaigoKenseiSep 7, 2017 11:51 AM
| "To be Great is to be misunderstood." - Ralph Waldo Emerson SaigoKensei said: My mistake was assuming they had the same amount of information I had.. |
| This episode would have been flawless if not for how sad the ending was.....Man I feel bad for Soma TwT |
SaigoKensei said: Kei is content to keep them as they are for the sake of his own entertainment. I think is proven by how set he is on being the one 'in control.' In one of the earlier episodes Souma (I think) mentioned something about Kei being evil and it looks like the show is consistent enough to actually make him that way in the end. |
| Now that Kei managed to foil Masamune's plan im curious to see where it goes. The recap by Kei and Masamune in the beginning was hillaious. So thats why Kei actually got the teacher to act as the driver. He wanted to convince both of them. Kei is going rather far with his plans with hostages though. Its nice that the teacher decided to focus more on his role as a teacher than as a bureau agent though. Kei and his friends sure came up with a pretty effective plan though separating Masamune from his escorts and then kidnapping him. Its funny seeing Youka, Sasane and Eri work together to hold the line against the bureau though. The escape on bikes on a elevatated road was funny though. So Haruki's role was to stay and hold the bureau's attention then. Hmm the theory that Kei and Masamune discussed was an interesting one and one that alluded to Kei's own objectives as well. Kei's second story really hit Masamune where it hurt the most though. Hmm so the true reason for Masamune's plan is because of his father then. His father is after all in place as a sacrifice which is what caused Masamune to have such a view in the first place. Even when there is a alternative that can save his parents and his coworker Masamune is still proving to be stubbon. So the person that Kei was trying to get through too was actually Kagaya who was the one that caused so much pain to Masamune and his family. Combine Kei's interrogation and Haruki's hearfelt and calm words is a really potent combo. Abilties are not inherinatly evil in the first place and depend on how they are used. Because Kei doesn't really forgot anything due to his ability the knowlege that he has is vast indeed. In the end its nice that Kei was able to convince Kagaya and Masamune to end their plans though. The ending scene was puzzling and i look forward to see how this anime ends though. |
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anonimus_opinion said: SaigoKensei said: I'm glad Souma's getting some attention in the last episode, even if it's based around yet another plot hole. Good job ignoring reality while accusing others of it, Kei. I hate that kid. Souma is wasted on him. The ending here is the latest plot hole. Now Souma copy #1 gets all of the memories from every Souma? Not from the moment she came into existence, but just now? That doesn't sit well with me at all. Not after all the times they've made a point of letting us know they're different people. The show used another retcon in this episode too: "Oh look, he went back to see Urachi for TWO HOURS when the world was without abilities and they're just throwing that in there now that they needed to." Don't get me wrong, I still like it. It's just not as solid as I had originally been convinced it was. Then again, most of the holes I've seen basically exist to keep Souma a part of the show. So I guess they're not all bad.. Hmmm... When Soma copy #1 first existed (while still inside the picture), she already had the memories of the original Soma. I think that's the idea of a Swampman, right? Despite being two different individuals, everything else is the same. Then she had those memories ever since, until she left Sakurada. Then all her memories related to abilities are sealed away until she comes back, and then the "seal" is removed... I think? Haha, I have a hard time with my words right now... The swampman example differs from this situation in that the original person from the swampman story dies before (or at the same time as) the swampman was created. However, the Souma swampman was created when the picture was taken and the original continued to live for who knows how long after that. So, in my opinion, the original would have memories that the copy wouldn't have been able to experience or know about beyond the point that the picture was taken. This is just speculation. Now, what makes me think Souma gained memories she didn't initially have when she was "revived" is the way she reacted to the sudden burst of information as she passed back through the boundaries of the barrier. She stated that she was wrong after all of her confidence up to this point and started to break down then and there. If she was only getting back her own memories, nothing should have changed for her the way that it had. The only conclusion we can draw at this point is that she gained memories from the original that she hadn't had before. The problem here is that the show has been trying to convince us that the Souma copies are completely separate people from the original. Souma used that trick against the lie detector and Kei and herself both refer to the original as a separate person from the copies. Unless Souma's ability has wrecked her sense of self so much that she wouldn't see herself as the same person even if she were and Kei has been going along with it, she must be a different person. So why would she suddenly gain memories that belong to what we have established is a different individual? That is the hole I see. What those memories actually were isn't going to matter to me as much as the fact that she shouldn't have even gotten them in the first place. This show has been pretty good about either explaining things outright or leaving plenty of information to piece it all together. So when something that doesn't make any sense and has no support in the story pops up, I see it as a mistake in the writing rather than an invitation to speculate (which the fans use to defend this show). |
| "To be Great is to be misunderstood." - Ralph Waldo Emerson SaigoKensei said: My mistake was assuming they had the same amount of information I had.. |
Morlord said: The episode was really great to watch and Kei is a genius but can someone please explain how he won, I mean he got Kagaya on his side but why does this keep Urachi from erasing all abilities in Sakurada? Urachi's parents are the ones that created the barrier that allows abilities to exist within Sakurada. Kagaya is the one that petrified Urachi's parents in order to keep them from dying so they could maintain the barrier indefinitely. So Kagaya is the only one that can unpetrify them in order for (I assume) Oka Eri to make them forget their abilities to get rid of the barrier surrounding Sakurada, thus erasing abilities from the town. Therefore, without Kagaya on his side, Urachi can no longer remove abilities from Sakurada. @Nicolas_Pina |
SaigoKenseiSep 7, 2017 10:53 PM
| "To be Great is to be misunderstood." - Ralph Waldo Emerson SaigoKensei said: My mistake was assuming they had the same amount of information I had.. |
| The conversation was interesting, also the bike scene was fun. Let's see on the last episode why swampman Souma remembered all the memories of the original, Souma if its reasonable one, just an asspull or just going to end without an explanation. |
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| Well, the scored jumped to 7.08 XD, I find the premise somewhat interesting but the presentation is to bland for my taste at least it somewhat improved over time |
| Kei is sure the absolute madman, lol now then, Soma left the town and comeback, remember all the things she forget. what did she regret this time? isn't she just agree before leaving the town? or did the swampman souma just remember all the original souma memories, become the original souma, and feel sorry about it? |
| Yeah, I wondered why Tomoki was on the car before, it was planned well I guess. But I still don't support his worldview cause abilities make people suffer too (Souma in the end was nice example). He may say more people but he will also hurt more people there is no real benefit of having them. Who will save Misora, who will save Souma? He is making people suffer by his actions, has he ever thought of that? Of all consequences of his self-imposed righteousness? And he doesn't even count himself. He simply can't save everyone. Really hope Souma turns tu be mastermind who makes them live normally again. The next episode probably decides whether plot of this anime is masterpiece or not. |
| now that i looked at the opening song with subs, it is actually pretty cool =O |
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