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May 3, 2017 6:08 PM

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You should realize he's not a real soldier and he'd only gotten the empty title of Second Technician through connections (namely, Grick and Nygglatho). He's formerly a quasi brave but that's different from being in the military, and he's very much aware of that fact when he signed up for this job.


And yet he still fought those very same monsters that the girls are fighting in his past life. We all saw that he did before he was frozen. Therefore he should know exactly what these girls are going through and will be going through as the others get older.


Firstly, he fought gods, not beasts
Secondly, waiting for the unknown is a lot different, and arguably much more emotionally taxing, than going to fight himself. You'll probably get to see how this affects Willem next episode.

One thing the anime did not mention is that Willem believed the girls only had a 5% chance of survival.
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May 3, 2017 7:29 PM

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Wow, definitely scared me when they said the battle failed. Next episode is most likely information on the battle.
 
May 3, 2017 9:20 PM

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Pretty great ending.
Will only get more dramatic from here.
 
May 3, 2017 10:50 PM

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Knowing and being able to act coldly because he knows it are two different things. The girls gave us the wrong perception about his character which, I'd dare to say, is much more in line with what we saw at the end of the episode. Ithea herself said that he usually tries to play cool and was taken aback by his reaction. Nygglatho said something similar when he made pudding for the kids; that he wasn't acting like himself. But who is Willem, and do these girls really know him well enough to be able to judge his character? Not atm, no.

So far he was always the one going to battle and didn't have a clue about the feelings of those waiting at home for his return. He thought a couple of times, during this past month, about how the people at the orphanage must have felt and if it was similar to how he was worried about the three girls now.

He made a promise with Chtholly, which was similar to the one he did with Almaria in the past. He wasn't able to fulfill that promise, and that hurt him deeply. He made a new promise now, even if the chances of their return were almost none. This time she came back and fulfilled the promise he wasn't able to respect. That too played a role in how he acted.

Lastly, he was a father figure in his old orphanage.
That side of him is still there, and no matter how much he tries not to get attached to them, he views the fairies as his daughters; he can't help but keep worrying about their faith.
So more than a manager taking care of his weapons, he is more like a father worrying about his daughters.
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May 4, 2017 1:21 AM

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DirectorK said:
Germs_N_Spices said:
You should realize he's not a real soldier and he'd only gotten the empty title of Second Technician through connections (namely, Grick and Nygglatho). He's formerly a quasi brave but that's different from being in the military, and he's very much aware of that fact when he signed up for this job.


And yet he still fought those very same monsters that the girls are fighting in his past life. We all saw that he did before he was frozen. Therefore he should know exactly what these girls are going through and will be going through as the others get older.


There's absolutely no indication he fought beasts and there's no explanation yet in show on what the creature he fought was.
 
May 4, 2017 8:32 AM

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Fai said:
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And yet he still fought those very same monsters that the girls are fighting in his past life. We all saw that he did before he was frozen. Therefore he should know exactly what these girls are going through and will be going through as the others get older.


There's absolutely no indication he fought beasts and there's no explanation yet in show on what the creature he fought was.


Not knowing anything about the creature he did fought against could at least open the possibility it could be one of the beast. I know that is not the case, but it could have been the case.
 
May 4, 2017 10:19 AM

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Of course they have taken a handful of the drama, if it had not been for the beginning a somewhat surreal and fun at the same time, the narration was heavy to digest. Not bad that there was a brief bracket on Tiat's character.

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The Lizard Romance in the beginning had me laughing. xD


I agree! I laughed very heavily. X°°D
 
May 4, 2017 2:04 PM
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The reunion had my nose burning some. good episode. Didn't think i would like this series but loving it so far.
 
May 4, 2017 3:22 PM

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Got as much mindbreaked as our boy :(
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May 4, 2017 4:20 PM

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I know and understand all that. I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to feel that way given what he went through before. Any parent and/or military leader would probably feel the same way if they had gone through what he did. There's nothing wrong with showing compassion towards those under your care, but you have to know where to draw the line between your emotions and your job. If you let your emotions get the better of you, then you'll end up doing something you won't be able to undue and will haunt you for the rest of your life.
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May 4, 2017 5:24 PM

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I feel odd ways about this one - positive odd ways, but odd in the sense that I've yet to see anything I've found remotely intense or gripping about it but I still feel like it's one of these series that requires an extra-specific attention to dialogue to get the gist of it. Like, better read than watched.

Overall I like it so far, and the character designs in particular are cute, but I do sort of feel like this whole setting and tone so far would be nice to curl up under a blanket and read on a cold day moreso than anything. Idk, it's a weird thought I had during this episode that I just wanted to share. I'm completely unfamiliar with the source material.
 
May 4, 2017 7:04 PM

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Lizard couple is best couple. OTP happened. 10/10.

That reunion went differently than what we were expecting with Willem moving faster than their eyes could follow.
 
May 4, 2017 9:32 PM
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i was going to give it my "loved it" but right at the end... Chtholly u didn't have to slap him (>人<)

Agree, that scenes will be better without the slap, i'd prefer a fist or a kick instead.
 
May 4, 2017 9:46 PM

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Great episode, but I realllllly wish the whole "girl slapping a guy for hugging her" trope would die. It ruined the mood and was pretty cliche. Aside from that, enjoyable episode.
 
May 4, 2017 10:27 PM

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Great episode, but I realllllly wish the whole "girl slapping a guy for hugging her" trope would die.

There's nothing cliche or tropey about a bratty child who is uncomfortable with her emotions or empathy, acting out in a less than refined manner. Its no different from Tiat struggling and shouting to put her down when Willem saved her midway through episode.

It would have been cliche if it was played for comedy but it clearly is not.
 
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Fai said:
psychoalchemist said:
Great episode, but I realllllly wish the whole "girl slapping a guy for hugging her" trope would die.

There's nothing cliche or tropey about a bratty child who is uncomfortable with her emotions or empathy, acting out in a less than refined manner. Its no different from Tiat struggling and shouting to put her down when Willem saved her midway through episode.

It would have been cliche if it was played for comedy but it clearly is not.

Only girl who think she in the same age range will slap a guy, a child can do what ever they want but they won't slap a adult. It's like Kutori want to state that she isn't a child anymore, but it still feel cliche.
 
May 5, 2017 4:56 PM

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Thankfully, this episode had a happy ending. I was worried for a bit...
 
May 5, 2017 5:49 PM

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Glad this didn't end off with a cliffhanger.
 
May 5, 2017 7:39 PM

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Another fantastic episode, this anime is a +8 for me now, loving it.
For a moment i thought that one of them died...
That hug :3 He should have hugged the other girls too.
Tiat is so cute, all of the are but Tiat was in this episode xD
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May 6, 2017 5:55 AM

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thank god nothing bad happen to those girls...
 
May 6, 2017 8:30 AM
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Tiat cute lizard fan trying to grow up too fast & fight. Felt this racial diversity, town dynamics, Zootopia (bunny getting bullied...) + Baymax.
Gandalf statue... he's in the OP, maybe Willem recognized him. Lol the couple slap foreshadowed the Ctholly slap.
cyclops? birdman?
Funny reunion, but Willem really lost it this episode.
 
May 6, 2017 12:49 PM
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Can someone change the Profile picture of this anime...its unpopular because of it
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May 6, 2017 9:17 PM

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That was a sweet, desperate, and full-of-worries hug to Chtholly!
5/5.
 
May 7, 2017 5:39 PM

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Episose went by so fast, The girls were alive though that's just expected it's still early for them.
 
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That hug at the end made the episode worth it.

I'm guessing this anime will never show us the girls in battle. It seems they want to build suspense around NOT showing it. ... they're doing a pretty mediocre job of it so far...
 
May 7, 2017 5:58 PM

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Little tsundere Tiat's too cute. That dog woman was probably the captain lizardman's lover.
 
May 7, 2017 7:50 PM

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Damn I love this episode...Im just Glad that ren and chtolly and Ithea save :')
Rare to see badass MC broke from Waifu (fake) death news
The ending song is beautiful as always...
 
May 8, 2017 10:04 AM
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So glad they're alive. Not keeping my hopes up though. :'( I agree the setting is great. That OP song is so good too.
 
May 8, 2017 10:05 AM
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An excellent episode that highlights Willem's anxiety for Chtholly and the other girls. Moreover, to insert Willem's dream at the beginning of the episode was a very good idea, so we could see his distress evolving gradually.
Sad to see the inevitable future awaiting these children.

The soundtrack is incredible and has a key role in the atmosphere of the anime.

5/5
 
May 8, 2017 12:09 PM

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Another great episode!
 
May 9, 2017 4:54 AM
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That hug at the end made the episode worth it.

I'm guessing this anime will never show us the girls in battle. It seems they want to build suspense around NOT showing it. ... they're doing a pretty mediocre job of it so far...


They are gonna show it, at the pace they are going at now, in Episode 6,, but the battles themselves aren't really the main point of the series.

Expecting otherwise is completely missing the shows core message.
 
May 9, 2017 8:59 PM
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Yeah my favorite character not die, and this anime plot romance very good
 
May 10, 2017 2:50 AM

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Willem's true personality and his feelings for the girls is so pure~
I'm so glad the trio is alright.
 
May 13, 2017 4:03 AM

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Boring episode. Chtholly was annoying.
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May 24, 2017 2:05 AM

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That speed jump when he saw her back haha, guess someone cares about them huh.
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May 30, 2017 8:17 PM

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Glad to see that all three of them are safe. Willem used the same flash ability as the first episode, wonder how he got it.
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Jun 4, 2017 6:53 AM

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Tiat is so cute, it's sad that from now on she is ready to fight...
I am glad the girls are alive from the battle!!!
 
Jun 19, 2017 10:03 PM

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umm... they didnt show the battle. Well looks like I was the one who didnt understood the mood of this episode :\
 
Jun 27, 2017 4:46 PM

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Nice episode, especially that ending :3 looking forward to see what's next.
 
Jul 10, 2017 7:06 PM

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He only hugged the blue-haired girl...

That was a little hidoi to the others....
 
Jul 16, 2017 1:49 PM

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That ending welcome feels too much out of place and character to me. And why he didn't hugged other two? Oh poor Rem. I mean Ren.
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Aug 2, 2017 2:37 PM

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im too soft(っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ I'm falling in love with this animuuu










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Aug 2, 2017 2:42 PM

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he didn't hugged other two? Oh poor Rem. I mean Ren.


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Aug 11, 2017 4:40 PM

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I thought at least one of the three was going to be dead, I'm glad all three survived and I hope this isn't just a facade and that they won't all just die later on into the show
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Aug 27, 2017 2:32 AM

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Not particularly great, some slightly cringey moments and average visuals.
 
Dec 30, 2017 9:51 PM
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So far, every episode has been just as good or better than last...I need more numbers to vote with. 5/5 ain't cutting it T_T T_T
 
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Oh god this episode was a masterpiece, I hope we can find more about his ability
 
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This episode starts very poorly. Instead of building tension in the days after the girls leave, we're thrown 2 weeks into the future and expected to understand how much Willem misses Chtholly who he's mostly treated indifferently up to this point.

The "Chtholly, get me a hammer please" scene for example made no sense. So far, Willem and Chtholly have never been so close that they're around each other all the time, in fact, Willem hangs out with Nygglatho more than Chtholly. He then freaks the fuck out even though Chtholly-tachi have already been gone for two weeks. Two weeks is a long time, I'm less than 4 minutes in to the episode and you don't see me running up and down my hallway looking for Chtholly. I was told once that she left to battle and I can retain that information for a decent amount of time, why is Willem freaking his shit? Of course, this is all passed off as being a dream in an attempt to excuse how stupid it is.

Exploring the town with the green leper was fun. I forgot why we came to town in the first place, but it was enjoyable until we got to the destination where we were instantly met with a giant ball of questions concerning Nygglatho. I'm sure the director meant for the whole "tuning" thing to be a more pressing matter, but I couldn't focus on that because seeing a real troll and how little it resembled Nygglatho got me thinking more than the vague talk about tuning that they were going on about.

They also mentioned at some point that Tiat is a fairy which confused me. I thought they were leprechauns. I was promised leprechauns, where are they at?

I'm not usually a big fan of furries, but the one in this episode was quite cute with her hat, so I will excuse her for keeping her blade sheathed. But only this once, next time somebody bumps in to her, there will be blood.

The last scene was absolute garbage. After everyone starts running around in a hurry and Willem asks the random pig what's up, the pig says "it's confidential" or w/e which is fine and everything, but then Willem shows the pig his rank and that seems to do the job. The pig is at attention and ready to report, this should be good enough, but no. Willem decides to waste everyone's time explaining further to the pig just how important he is and why he needs to be told the info that the pig has been ready to give him for that past minute. Props to this pig for staying professional while Willem derps out. The garbage doesn't end there. After hearing the news that "island 15's defense has failed" Willem absolutely loses his shit. Generally speaking, the fact that a defensive line has failed doesn't mean that everyone was massacred. There are plenty of ways to fail at defending a territory without everyone dying and it isn't normal for a person to assume anyone specific has died after hearing those words. Even if the pig had said that they dropped a nuke on the island, it's pretty normal to assume that maybe, possibly, your fairy girlfriend who you barely cared about last episode made it out alive.

Of course, nobody watching this anime thought for a second that anyone died, and they didn't. They're walking behind him.

After his anime dash to hug Chtholly, Willem hugs Chtholly without her hair in his arms, this means he pulled off an extremely precise and awkward hug by slithering his hands between her hair and her back. The idea of this made me laugh and is the best part of this episode.

Willem's actions were so out of character that the two side-girls felt the need to feed us excuses for it.
 
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the moment she slapped him is the moment i dropped this show with a 1/10
 
Aug 7, 6:47 AM

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wow nice episode :) I like this anime I wodner why its not ranked a little higher. Maybe later will be bad?
I got mixed feeling if they should or not show the battle how they fought but I think they will not.
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