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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Damn, they are using that fiery little fairy like a flamethrower. I think the action was nice for the fighting on the battlefield this episode in particular Yatori vs Nanaqu Dal Dinqun is awesome too of course. Got what I had expected from with the clash of ideals and action. Nanaqu Dal was tougher than I had thought but Yatori still owned her of course. Poor Dinqun D: |
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| Strong episode after last one seems things are getting out of hand now that both sides are losing things importuned to them. Tho i am somewhat hoping the commander has a death flag, i don't like him and he seems unfit to lead. (And with that i mean the old man) The canyon was a obvious trap by the way seeing how much it exposes you. |
| Yeah Suya, I also think it's hipocrisy. But then again, you're way of thought about "war and justice" are different from Iktar. Yours way of thought are more like Yatori. And Matthew's question is so "right at the moment". LOL |
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| Poor Deinkun, second week in a row a character arguably more likeable than some of the main cast was killed. I swear I'm not gonna be happy if that bald prick Safida survives this. Also, was actually rooting against Yatori here, at least she didn't kill the Sinack leader, but her poor spirit...and what a sight to return to. :( |
animefan8800Sep 2, 2016 11:29 AM
| It's been a while since I enjoy war anime. The last time was Kingdom. Hope this good quality continue. |
ZapredonSep 2, 2016 11:55 AM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Great episode again. I didn't like the fact that Ikta was just punched like that, I understand why Deinkun did it but all Ikta did was just smack him lightly, He didn't even mean harm. :( I was expecting some fan service when Yattori told Haro let's go wash up. Not sure if I should be happy or sad that we didn't get any. :P The salute to Mathew was both cool and hilarious at the same time XD Warrior of Solitude ftw. XD New bunch of people in the war, Wonder who they are and why they want Safida dead. Though to be honest I wouldn't mind seeing that guy die. :3 Yattori vs Daru was awesome, All of Yattori's fight sequences are amazing to watch. That poor spirit though. :( R.I.P Deinkun, You did well. |
Lelouch0202Sep 2, 2016 11:55 AM
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| Not only did Nanaku Daru's spirit get killed, but then she returns to her home just to see it burning to the ground. Talk about an unfortunate turn of events. RIP Deinkun, he didn't even show up much but I kind of liked him. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| Another great and intense episode! A lot of deaths as well. |
| So ikta and deinkun still had time to talk about honor while being surrounded by their enemies lol and how did the chieftain escape? She was fucking surrounded by soldiers. This anime is just getting even more retarded |
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| This show continues to impress me. The dialogues feel like there's real people behind them and not just some classic anime tropes. And they handle both humor and tragedy pretty well. My favorite bit has to be the troops saluting the warrior of solitude though. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Deinkun's punch on Ikta was totally over the top. That said I really like the characterisations in this show and there is nothing sanitised about the war. It's a stupid war but they all just try and survive despite incompetence by the higher ups. Damn you Madhouse another great show that will be a one season wonder. |
| Pay your respects to a lonely warrior . Rip Deikun :( |
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| the discussion in the tent was very well handled, that was the best part adaptation wise. Even though I knew of that discussion, that still made literally lol. That dialogue is gold. The battle (baring the duel that get a pass animation wise) in the second part of the episode was awfully handled. As usual you can clearly sense that the money used is not enough for large scale battles. |
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| The general is an idiot sending his troops down a small narrow path surrounded by tall mountains. It is such an obvious kill zone. I don't think the anime is doing too well capturing the scale of the war. It keeps explaining the scale it is but during the battles you don't feel it. They end so quickly and only show a few people engaging. It does display the dreadfulness of the war well but the scale of the conflict is not being depicted very well. The duel between Yatori and the Sinack Chieftain is pretty cool to watch. But couple things bothered me... Stabbing the blade on to the ground. That is the #1 way to dull your blade. Spinning and revealing the back was explained so I'm not going to complain on that. I really didn't like how Yatori blocked with both her saber and dagger. The entire advantage of dual-wielding is so you can block and bind the opponent's weapon while you go for a counter attack with the other weapon. By letting both blades bind, you are completely disregarding this decisive advantage. Static blocking is also pretty common though I guess you can let that slide since Yatori is dual-wielding. Finally, footwork. I don't practice the art. But When Yatori was backing away after a static block, she had her stance broken and balance way back. Mistake was to lurch backwards to aid in the static block. Instead she could of did a passing step, then parry and follow up a counter attack. But because she didn't, both their stance was broken, they resumed back in to a stand-off. The non-battle scenes are what this anime excels at. Which is kind of shameful since I feel like the battles which should be the main focus can be done so much better. Still enjoyable, especially the scene at the tent. And yes all the good characters die... |
zcv45Sep 2, 2016 3:31 PM
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| Another good person died in battle, unfortunately.... Aside from that, the episode was pretty good with the decent action. That scene in the tent was funny, though, lol. |
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| most boring war I ever saw in anime. dropped score to 6 |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
zcv45 said: The general is an idiot sending his troops down a small narrow path surrounded by tall mountains. It is such an obvious kill zone. I don't think the anime is doing too well capturing the scale of the war. It keeps explaining the scale it is but during the battles you don't feel it. They end so quickly and only show a few people engaging. It does display the dreadfulness of the war well but the scale of the conflict is not being depicted very well. The non-battle scenes are what this anime excels at. Which is kind of shameful since I feel like the battles which should be the main focus can be done so much better. Still enjoyable, especially the scene at the tent. And yes all the good characters die... Totaly agree with you. |
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| These battles aren't doing much for me, it's giving me a sort of Arslan Senki vibe which isn't exactly positive. Still, I liked that fight between Yatori and the girl, especially because the fighting style of the chief was awesome and decently animated (reminds me of the cat dude from Rokka no Yuusha). That "hero or warrior" talk made the episode, though. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
| Felt a little "Oregairu" deja vu there when Ikta decided to play the bag guy to solve the situation quickly. Glad to see at least one of the superiors, the now Captain, not be a complete stubborn idiot. The more action scenes there are with blades, the more I wish they would make new foley sounds for the clashing of swords. Right now it only sounds like hollow pipes hitting pipes, rather than solid metal. That's just me nitpicking though. |
| Lol many people dislike this episode, so the rating score will drop? |
CrazyFrogzSep 2, 2016 6:31 PM
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| Lol. The warriors of Solitude. That commander should get killed. |
| So the plan by Safida is flawed in many ways and everyone knows that. The problem is that there's no point in saying anything because it'll be futile anyway. Apart from that, Safida isn't going to listen to anyone. Based on that plan, the army is to burn down villages and kill their residents. But Sazaluf isn't doing the killing part but is instead sending those people to some other village. And the Sinacks hate the imperial army, obviously. I didn't expect Ikta to flick the kid on the nose to cause him to bleed. And Ikta didn't expect that either. Deinkun punches Ikta for it which works out well since the Sinacks end up not hating him. And they get ambushed while passing through a narrow path. They get ambushed from above, below and from their side with air rifles. And there are people not Sinacks taking advantage of this situation who are after only Safida and other higher ranked dudes. The fight between Yatori and the Sinack leader was cool. They are constantly portraying the Sinacks as being oppressed by the Empire for whatever reason. There is hatred among the Sinacks for the army and rightly so because burning down villages is just bad because it's harming the innocent who can't fight back. It does block out possible supplies to the enemy, but it's still harming the innocent. Ikta also says that they have to kill those who fight them but not those who aren't fighting. Suya considered every single one of the Sinacks to be enemies who should be killed but Ikta and Deinkun believe that that's not the right thing. The chieftain's village has also been burned down which will only strengthen her resolve to take out the army. |
Yamada2 said: They are constantly portraying the Sinacks as being oppressed by the Empire for whatever reason. There is hatred among the Sinacks for the army and rightly so because burning down villages is just bad because it's harming the innocent who can't fight back. It does block out possible supplies to the enemy, but it's still harming the innocent. Ikta also says that they have to kill those who fight them but not those who aren't fighting. Suya considered every single one of the Sinacks to be enemies who should be killed but Ikta and Deinkun believe that that's not the right thing. The chieftain's village has also been burned down which will only strengthen her resolve to take out the army. I agree. When you are pressed down this badly, you are only fueling the revolt. While I do agree with Deinkun and Ikta. Soldiers are there to win the battle, doesn't always mean they are to kill. At the same time... Suya is also not wrong on the technical things even if I don't morally agree with her. Killing civilians, scorched earth, terror bombing etc. It is all part of modern war, such is total war. The anime appears to have a military capabilities of the 1870s-1900s. At this point, warfare is transitioning from colonial style line formation with muskets to bolt-action rifles in large scale skirmishes and massive artillery bombardment of civilian and military targets alike. Evidence is the use of aerial units(dirigibles) and the use of rifled firearms. As they continue through this transition, it will only get bloodier and if they don't adapt more people will die. |
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| Yatori's fight was pretty cool. Saw the others guy's death the second he was talking to that little kid. |
| I don't know what's going to happen, but the moment that Ikta turns on the empire, which I certainly hope happens, is going to be so great. I can't wait to see Ikta's reaction to seeing that village burn in flames. Overall, this is definitely my type of show. |
| Solid episode. My only complaint is that Yatori ditched defending the dumbass lieutenant out of rage to attack the guy who killed Deinkun. Nanaku got away as a result. But Nanaku vs Yatori was a great fight, Nanaku's style was particularly interesting. |
| Excellent episode. I had a bit of a laugh during the "Hero or Warrior" thing. Yatori was awesome in this episode. Jesus this girl is amazing. |
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| Why does it feel like all the great side characters are getting killed off one by one? The girl from last episode, and now Deinkun... This show really likes to kill off all the good characters doesn't it. |
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| well that story is progressing...War is bad no matter how you look at it..... I don't know how will it end it all.... I believe military leader was at fault...he should totally die |
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| Good episode, i bet those cloaked assassins were internal since most of the blows on the big empires comes from with in. Anyway whats interesting is that, not only those little pocket guys can understand when someone is speaking but they can also talk! too bad its not a Psychological anime, because otherwise it could be possible that they would be the real bad guys who manipulate humans and the usual stuff, that would be cool :) |
| I wish this anime had better landscape designs or whatever you call it. Those mountains just look so ugly and don't convince me at all. I think the art and animation from this anime just aren't good. The deaths aren't handled well, too. They feel empty for me. The show started disappointing me again last episode and this one is no different :/ |
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| crap they killed Dein |
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| Dang, I actually wanted Yatori to lose, pity. That warrior thing hits a little too close to home. |
| A city's greatness is determined by the speed of its internet connection. |
| RIP Deinkun damn! the episode was awesome loved the action. |
| This was a good episode that unfortunately showed the harsh realities of war like the burning of enemy resources. The captain though is a great support character and a good humanitarian and much better than that idiot general that started the war. Damm so they lost 9000 men in this campaign alone. All for the power dream of that idiotic general man that guy needs to get shot in the back And the ambush while predictable was well done and solok was clear headed as always. And the dual between Yatori and the chieftan was a long time coming but worth it That chieftan was actually pretty skilled and maybe a step above Yatori as well. So the chieftan was using her wind spirit to move as fast as the wind then eh Damm i can't believe the knight was killed though he was a great character and a honorable one at that as well As ever the generals plan is just full of holes. A skilled commander like that chieftan will be able to attack his of the attack groups and destroy them piecemeal without worrying about enemy reinforcements because of that large gap between each group. And so the madness of this war continues eh Im surprised that the spirit sacrificed itself for the chieftan thats some loyalty |
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| It's really admirable how this series paints war - nobody is winning here, only loss. Shame, I was starting to like the knight guy then this happens. Like kanna wasn't enough already :'( Btw at the end was this the same village that ikta & co were burning that at the start? Intriguing, that kala karma group - wonder where they stand in all this. |
| Imagine a berserk anime by Yoshiaki kawajiri at Madhouse. Now take a look at Berserk (2016). YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION TO CRY. |
| They don't even show the gruesome parts of the war, but the guy died before I even start to remember his name, but the tactic is more of a slaughtering than war. Igsem never fails me and Ikta by her side. |
| ... How brutal,, a little fairy as a Flamethrower.. and not Deinqun.. ;-; ad fucking last week was kanna.. :/ who is next?!? Great episode, in overall! |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
| Glory upon your soul, Deinkun! That talk regarding 'Heroes' and 'Warriors' was funny, and Matthew exclamation and the responding salute was hilarious. And the music made it even better. "Pay your respects to a lonely warrior!" |
 Stop. Calm yourself. You're an idiot. |
| You can tell they're side-characters because they keep getting killed off-screen. |
| So Ikta is basically a war criminal now? Who am I supposed to relate to? Except for the fat guy who faps... |
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