| Murderers, you're murderers We are not the same as you The anime industry could be losing between 5.7 to 22 millions dollars every year! sounds like an overestimate... illegal streamers and downloaders probably wouldn't buy legal streams and dvds What can we do to solve this? spoiler - we cant do anything to solve it you can turn to torrents and xdcc.. better than streaming |
romagiaJul 3, 2016 3:59 PM
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| Free legal streaming would be the best solution. Unfortunately that doesn't seem possible. |
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| I don't know I don't care #LeaveComicAlone |
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zombie_pegasus said: but crunchy offers lots of shows for free, with 1 week after they finished airingFree legal streaming would be the best solution. Unfortunately that doesn't seem possible. |
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| I watch everything I can legally, and then if the series is in my taste I'll buy the UK Bluray release if there is one. some series I will go out and buy the Japanese box set (Neon Genesis Evangelion) and then some I'll go out and buy merch and figures for (Kill La Kill). I also donated a large sum too the Little Witch Achedima Kickstarter project. I believe I do what I can to support the projects I enjoy. But if people just want to watch, nothing more I support that. maybe it's the industry that needs to change, too take more advantage of western audiences and not the fans, but hey. what do I know. |
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romagia said: Sorry, I forgot that outside of Canada they actually do show anime for free. There still are a lot of restrictions on free viewing, though. The ads are necessary, but free viewers are also only allowed watching in SD.zombie_pegasus said: but crunchy offers lots of shows for free, with 1 week after they finished airingFree legal streaming would be the best solution. Unfortunately that doesn't seem possible. |
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| How about we push the publishers so far that they will keep on Expanding their reach? Then at least the ones who do it Illegally because they cannot watch it due to Licenses will Likely start watching it legally. |
The anime industry could be losing between 5.7 to 22 millions dollars every year! This also means that people all around the world are gaining 5.7 to 22 millions of dollars every year, more money for anime fans. So we should increase the amount of money gained by anime fans so that they have more money to buy anime related products. So from now on everyone that wants to support the industry should illegally stream anime in order to have more money to support the industry. |
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zombie_pegasus said: whaaaa `-` i never knew about the canada thingromagia said: Sorry, I forgot that outside of Canada they actually do show anime for free. There still are a lot of restrictions on free viewing, though. The ads are necessary, but free viewers are also only allowed watching in SD.but crunchy offers lots of shows for free, with 1 week after they finished airing so you can't watch anything from MAL's "Watch" selection? |
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zal said: The anime industry could be losing between 5.7 to 22 millions dollars every year! This also means that people all around the world are gaining 5.7 to 22 millions of dollars every year, more money for anime fans. So we should increase the amount of money gained by anime fans so that they have more money to buy anime related products. So from now on everyone that wants to support the industry should illegally stream anime in order to have more money to support the industry.That's kinda backwards logic in a way because you are assuming that people will actually spend their money on anime. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
romagia said: I can watch currently airing anime a week after they air up to 3 months after the anime finishes airing. Even if an anime episode doesn't show the little crown it will typically still say "Sorry, only Premium Members may watch this!". Apparently it's because our dollar is shit.zombie_pegasus said: whaaaa `-` i never knew about the canada thingSorry, I forgot that outside of Canada they actually do show anime for free. There still are a lot of restrictions on free viewing, though. The ads are necessary, but free viewers are also only allowed watching in SD. so you can't watch anything from MAL's "Watch" selection? |
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| The anime industry itself is to blame not illegal streaming. Being an animator is a dead end job in Japan unlike the US where you make a decent living and you get rest, you don't get rest in the Japanese animation industry and people get sick and even die as a result. This leads good talent to choose other ventures instead. They don't market well outside of Japan when it comes to merchandise or offer a lot. While a lot of anime comes here, save for anime for very specific audiences (businessperson geared anime, primetime mahou shoujo, and any non-Macross idol anime that isn't aired late at night in Japan). |
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| Will pay them back once i get rich :3 dont worry :p |
~This world is a cruel place~ |
| Just fucking die ....... who care =D |
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| Spoilers: I didn't check the links... And why the hell does Japan need the westerns to keep anime business going anyway? I'm pretty sure cartoons and other medias can survive and be healthy with just their main audience support...Why can't anime and Japan be the same then? Why do we have make a negative difference? Perharps the Japanese TV or government should give the anime industry more monetary support and also the way the anime industry handles itself and its market should change too, so it can survive with its main audience alone without giving a damn to us westerns... |
HyperLJul 3, 2016 4:42 PM
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| Well I buy bds and dvds from Japan and search the net for the subs if I really want to support the show (last did it for Grimgar) so f off. |
| it's all out fault for not supporting the product. moreover we watch anime for free on illegal site. i'm not suprised if something like that is happening on the anime industry. and this is the reason why we aren't getting any second season. ALL OF YOU!!! WATCH ANIME LEGELY RIGHT NOW!!! |
YizelTroJul 3, 2016 8:12 PM
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Tevens said: it's all out fault for not supporting the product. moreover we watch anime for free on illegal site. i'm not suprised if something like that is happening on the anime industry. and this is the reason why we aren't getting any second season. ALL OF YOU!!! WATCH ANIME LEGELY RIGHT NOW!!! Not for Spring, if success were based off a merchandise business model instead of a BD/DVD business model, I'd have nearly every anime I liked this season having a second season. |
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| Maybe if studios stop focusing on regurgitating out as many half assed re-hashed content per season and focused on quality instead they might actually stop losing money.. |
| Oh well, time to play video games now. I have a pretty huge backlog that could take me a long time to complete. I can wait until the anime industry recovers from their financial situation. |
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| he did say that buying anime and merchandise helps the industry a lot.... well i do that all the time... so yea :D but hey, sometimes you gotta download your anime.... you know... for research purposes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| the japanese anime industry should learn from illegal streaming sites like kissanime then seriously what does illegal streaming sites do that make them successful and get up to 22 million US dollars profit per year? - no geoblocking, no the video is not available for your country crap - aggregate or centralize, so 1 site or place for majority of anime shows out there - free but with ads, and provide premium service to remove those ads the anime industry right now is losing potential customers here and not really actual customers, remove all illegal streaming sites and their profit will not increase significantly anyway, since majority of those who pirate like me have no money to begin with |
| That's bullshit, you can't "lose" what you've never had in the first place |
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| oh my god, who the hell cares??????? |
| It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on. |
| Look, pretty much every anime fan has pirated anime. Everyone has varying levels of income but people need to get out of this complete sense of entitlement mentality and at least provide some support for the industry. If you have a certain studio you like, show, mangaka, then buy that work. At least you know that you are helping shows you like continue. You are on a computer and using the internet. You can spare a few dollars once in a while. |
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| I "illegally steam" plenty of things but I also have several streaming subscriptions and buy physical copies of the things i like if they're available. Loss from piracy is impossible to quantify because the fact is people who get a thing for free wouldn't necessarily purchase or legally obtain it if given no alternative. Illegal streaming is a double edged sword since it allows for a much bigger audience and there by creates a bigger pool to sell merchandise to. On the other hand of course that does come with the possible loss of some fans who would have paid if they couldnt find the free option. Meanwhile some people will still just pay no matter what. That's the internet. Nothing anyone can really do about it |
noGiAnimeJul 5, 2016 12:37 AM
| Continue to torrent. Hahahahahaha! |
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| Yesterday, OP kill himself qwertyuiopasdg |
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| I wasn't aware that anime was made for not-Japan. Smells like bs to me. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| Yes. Support your fellow gook slaveworker for your latest cartoons. What really needs to happen is a reform and destruction of the industry so it can rise up again and pay it's workers a proper fucking salary to live off of. |
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| Why won't the movie industry hurry up and die? I pirate a tons of them all the time, and they still won't go out of business. Tired of all the garbage movies nowadays. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| But...but....but...but...but...but I watch some Moe shit and SoL is one of my favourite Genre!!!! ('o') OHMYGOD, WHY? it'd be good if there was a Free Legal Streaming Website. I know what I'm asking for is a complete bullshit. Thanks for the video! Now, I understand why Akatsuki no Yona never got another season. ;-; Eh, they said they don't care about AnimeFans outside Japan? Awww. |
| Oh yeah... it's dying allright... with over 100 series per year... sure looks like death around here. Look, the only ones that truly matter are the people who buy the releases and merch from JAPAN. That's what decides a 2nd season, not people watching on CR. Sure... there are a few exceptions, but they are just that: exceptions. I don't give a crap if the whole R1 industry goes up in smoke as long as CR is still alive for me to watch the rips. No, I won't wacth free CR because it has ads and I don't want to wait a week. I'm getting it now and for free, that's how I've always done it. |
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| I could be slowly killing all life on earth with my toxic shits but I don't care about that either. |
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕ |
| I don't understand where this obsession with illegal streaming ruining the anime industry comes from. Sure,more money for the industry would be nice, but hasn't the industry survived on japanese BD,manga and merch sales for decades now? Like how does some filthy gaijin streaming affect sales IN Japan. The industry COULD make extra money of off western fans if they would offer us a proper legal streaming service,but there shouldn't be any loss, since I don't remember overseas sales being a huge part of anime profit. |
| I honestly was considering buying into Crunchy Roll but the issue is that these premium streaming services are so fucking disappointing. Kissanime has far more anime than Crunchy Roll has and that's part of the reason why I don't want to buy into Crunchy roll. Once there is a service similar to Kissanime that's legal I will gladly pay for it. |
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Right now i'm killing many industries (game, music, porn...), Hoist the colours lads ! |
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| Well, I don't have a guilty conscious for I've more then paid my dues to the anime industry :P It isn't even enough to acquire DVDs, I got my hands on figures, art books, wallart, and attire as well. |
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