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Jul 25, 2015 4:00 PM
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ADMINS: If I am breaking a rule please let me know. I read the rules and nothing was specified about talking about the genre's of anime. I am trying to ask questions to people who have seen loli. There is no better place to get these answers then on a forum like this. It has ties to things I am studying in regards to psychology.

Please do not get into semantics. Some people view lolicon as a genre, some people view it as a tag. Both are similar and everybody finds different meanings behind the words. Language and the meaning behind words change, and the definition of lolicon is shifting as well. Look it up if you don't believe me.

example of a controversial word that has an evolving meaning: gender

Greetings! I am a psychology student in college. I wanted to start a discussion on here about an anime genre that is very controversial in my specific demographic area; country as well. It is, as the title states, lolicon. I read the rules of this section of the forums and it fit the topic of this post. My logic is that genre's are a vital part of the plot of any anime/manga/dojinshi you read. If I am breaking a rule admins just send me a PM and explain to me what I did wrong. I won't get defensive as I greatly appreciate the privileged of using and posting on this site. Thank you for being understanding!

Okay onto the discussion I am bringing up. Lolicon(especially the hentai version) crosses ethical and moral boundaries of where I live. The US. It often depicts underage children(although virtual, it is the main THEME). I understand that in normal anime it is often construed as innocent children, but there are many examples of non-adult(hentai) anime's that over sexualize lolis. I think that while I do not believe a complete ban of this genre of "art" is justified, regulation may be a good first step in making people respect the genre more. I bring this up because more countries globally are beginning to ban it. It is a very interesting topic and one often brought up in conversations I have with my fellow anime nerds in real life. I would like to see how this topic is approached on a popular forum like myanimelist.

Please understand that I am in no way looking down on people who like lolicon. I understand that cultures, demographics, and opinions on this subject will be different from people all around the world. I am simply asking that based on the fact that child pornography or over sexualizing children is banned or regulated to the extreme because of how the THEME psychologically affects people.. should lolicon be regulated as well?

What is your opinion of lolicon? This is an amazing community full of very insightful, mature people. Your opinions will help me in my study of this subject.

This is an adult conversation and please do not flame people who dislike or like lolicon. It is a controversial genre because of how it presents itself today. I am interested on the opinions of people from any viewpoint on lolicon.

Thank you to anybody who has insight! Please do not hesitate to state your opinion and back it up with concrete facts!

Kind regards,

Justin Dunkin
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Jul 25, 2015 4:06 PM
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it's not genre. it's content and usually added as tag.
OT: just not my cup of tea. but yeah, i like short girls because i short myself. but not underage girls.
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Jul 25, 2015 4:16 PM
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Don't worry, you're not breaking any rules. The disease that is about to plague your thread, however, will be a grave offense to anyone with common sense.

As for my personal stance, I am a practitioner of Loliology and worship their majestic kawaii-ness.

Lolis are the lifeblood of this world's happiness. Irrefutable evidence to back it up (Warning: contents not safe for moralfags
Jul 25, 2015 4:17 PM
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Gotwhitey said:

This is an adult conversation and please do not flame people who dislike or like lolicon.


You must be new around here.

And if you ask me, people can like whatever they feel like liking so long as they're not committing a crime. And loving lolis is by no means a crime >////////<
Jul 25, 2015 4:20 PM
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Oh god no, not another loli thread you'll attract "them"
Jul 25, 2015 4:24 PM
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Ratohnhaketon said:
will be a grave offense to anyone with common sense.


Okay so is common sense to ignore an issue? There have been studies that slowly delved deeper into people with "lolita complexes". I agree that loli's are cute. My topic does not have anything to do with that aspect of lolicon. It specifies about the part of the genre that reinforces harmful mental thought. Hence why a complete ban on it would be nonsensical. However, I believe regulation is necessary.

An example of something controversial that most people can understand is marijuana. There are people all over the spectrum on this issue in my country these days as well. It is hard to find people who can objectively look at the pros and cons of controversial issues without entering in their own bias'. Hence the flamers, bigots, etc. Its a simple question with complicated factors to take into account.

source/example: http://www.lifestudies.org/insensitiveman04.html

Sorry if my words were misconstrued.
Jul 25, 2015 4:24 PM
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Lolicon isn't a genre in the first place.
And I like lolis in hentai.
Jul 25, 2015 4:26 PM
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All I have to say about lolicon is

Jul 25, 2015 4:31 PM
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DrGeroCreation said:
All I have to say about lolicon is



Poor Erza-tan...Jellal was too harsh there.
Jul 25, 2015 4:33 PM

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Ulquiorra1923 said:
DrGeroCreation said:
All I have to say about lolicon is



Poor Erza-tan...Jellal was too harsh there.
I don't blame him considering I would have said the exact same thing.
Jul 25, 2015 4:35 PM
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little boys > little girls
Jul 25, 2015 4:37 PM

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animefan006 said:
Oh god no, not another loli thread you'll attract "them"

Jul 25, 2015 4:39 PM

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oh noes


Jul 25, 2015 4:43 PM
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I like loli. Regulations on loli won't work with Japan's freedom of expression. There's really nothing you can do about it. Just don't watch/read it.
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Jul 25, 2015 4:43 PM

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We see a flat chested girl, we must have her. There is no complex psychological explanation friend.
Jul 25, 2015 4:57 PM
*hug noises*

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People really don't use the search button at all before they post threads do they?
Jul 25, 2015 5:00 PM

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Flat is love, flat is life, flat is beautiful. The loli haters are either jealous or blinded by morals.


Jul 25, 2015 5:06 PM

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Can you explain me how can someone be blinded by morals?
Jul 25, 2015 5:10 PM
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So watching an animation where no actual children are being abused is immoral to you.

Not much of a fan of fiction I take it.
Jul 25, 2015 5:13 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:
So watching an animation where no actual children are being abused is immoral to you.

Not much of a fan of fiction I take it.


I meant that morals line to be in quotes, it was meant as a potshot to people who think it's wrong.


Jul 25, 2015 5:35 PM

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Who doesn't like cute things. Now loli's may be different for everybody but usually imo a loli for me is someone who is of a certain age but looks and sounds really young.

Ex-Illyasviel from fate. She's 18 yet she has the body of a child.
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Jul 25, 2015 5:37 PM

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Such a controversial topic indeed, a thread like this one has totally never been made before!
Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained
Jul 25, 2015 5:37 PM
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no *smacks nose with news paper* no don't jump in the kitty pool go back to the adult section.
Jul 25, 2015 5:45 PM

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Veneficia said:
no *smacks nose with news paper* no don't jump in the kitty pool go back to the adult section.




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Hoppy said:
Veneficia said:
no *smacks nose with news paper* no don't jump in the kitty pool go back to the adult section.




The ball pit is too much fun.
Jul 25, 2015 6:06 PM

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Whats a loli?
Jul 25, 2015 6:37 PM

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I am simply asking that based on the fact that child pornography or over sexualizing children is banned or regulated to the extreme because of how the THEME psychologically affects people..
Actual child pornography is banned because it requires the abuse of children to create, i.e. it's a crime because it actually harms actual living flesh-and-blood people. If you're going to regulate "virtual CP" like lolicon because it gives rise to "thought crimes" or whatever, then you'd better ban all the other media that depicts anything else that's illegal or immoral as well. 1984 was not a manual!

It often depicts underage children
Underage =/= child, at least not necessarily.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts.

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Jul 25, 2015 7:28 PM
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Lolicon is pedophile. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jul 25, 2015 7:30 PM

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LOLI IS LOVE!

LOLI IS LIFE!
Jul 25, 2015 7:35 PM
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Hoppy said:
I meant that morals line to be in quotes, it was meant as a potshot to people who think it's wrong.


Lolicon can be wrong. But when it is in fiction or fantasy I cannot see it being wrong. If in reality some fat, think fingered, sexually stunted human tries to convert fantasy into reality, that person is not only morally wrong, they should be castrated before being executed.

However, for the vast majority of people who can differentiate between fantasy and reality, there is nothing wrong as long as no innocents were harmed in the making of this animation.
Jul 25, 2015 7:38 PM

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Japanimation can give us a Gothic Gay lolicon

So..........
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tennogame said:
Can you explain me how can someone be blinded by morals?


People disgusted by incest in anime are even more blind. I don't get it.
Jul 25, 2015 7:41 PM
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Whats a loli?



Something that puts you in jail for liking it
Jul 25, 2015 7:42 PM

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Loli is gud

Loli in hentai? ehh... I wouldn't say that the reasons why its banned make much sense, nor prevent any arise of a possible real life situation or abuse, but sure, anything as long as the government and the people feel slightly more pure and safer!

I don't watch as much anime as before...
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ExTamplier said:
animefan006 said:
Oh god no, not another loli thread you'll attract "them"


I live and die for lolis.
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RedTie47 said:
ExTamplier said:


I live and die for lolis.



OMG their here


Jul 25, 2015 7:56 PM
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3 Things

1. Lolicon isn't a genre
2. You're more likely to win the jackpot in Vegas or to get struck by lightning than expect a good discussion out of this
3. Who's alt are you?
Jul 26, 2015 12:22 AM

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I don't like it at all but I honestly don't mind if other people do.
Take care of yourself

Jul 26, 2015 12:28 AM

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3 Things

1. Lolicon isn't a genre
2. You're more likely to win the jackpot in Vegas or to get struck by lightning than expect a good discussion out of this
3. Who's alt are you?
Jul 26, 2015 12:37 AM

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lolis = the devil
Jul 26, 2015 2:09 AM

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bobzanny said:
Who doesn't like cute things. Now loli's may be different for everybody but usually imo a loli for me is someone who is of a certain age but looks and sounds really young.

Ex-Illyasviel from fate. She's 18 yet she has the body of a child.

i prefer this kind of loli too rather than underage girls
Jul 26, 2015 4:43 AM

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Lolicon is a fascinating topic of discussion because the opinions on it are extremely mixed. Some people view it as child pornography, which I strongly disagree with because child pornography is the exploitation of children...how can you exploit a fictional character that is derived completely from human imagination.

I also completely disagree with a lot of laws that are banning lolicon for reasons of child pornography for those same reasons. As long as the viewer isn't subjecting himself to or creating child porn himself or herself, then I don't think it should be completely considered a problem. Is it weird? Well yeah, but so is tentacle rape hentai and that's completely legal. The whole reason for child porn being banned in the first place is to protect children from sexual deviants. I don't see how banning lolicon and arresting those in possession is "protecting children since lolis aren't real people. I'm not sure about the "psychological" issues behind pedophiles and lolicon viewers, but the way I see it, if lolicon prevents pedophiles from actually committing acts, then I'm all for it. I haven't really seen too many studies on just how helpful/harmful lolicon is in that regard though.

As for my thoughts on it as a "genre" or "tag," meh. I have mixed feelings about it. I don't find it to be the most satisfying genre or subject matter in regards to anime/hentai viewing, but then again, it might be because I'm an older anime viewer and that demographic just isn't as appealing. Although, I can see why some people would really like it.
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Im okay with lolis in anime, I find them cute, but when they start "sexualizing" them I start thinking that there's people who jack off at that and it kinda makes me sick.

Jul 26, 2015 5:03 AM

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Eww when sexualised.

Anime is good, fucking deal with it.
Jul 26, 2015 8:51 AM

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I like it. And if anyone else does or doesn't like it, who gives a shit? And the moral guardians are fuckin hilarious.

Liking lolis = being a pedophile

so, then
Liking violent anime = being a violent sociopath
Liking most tsunderes = supporting abuse

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It always ends the same way. Always an "Us vs Them!" argument.
Jul 26, 2015 8:57 AM

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Jul 26, 2015 9:17 AM

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ichii_1 said:
LOLI IS LOVE!

LOLI IS LIFE!
Jul 26, 2015 9:35 AM

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Boi I swear if you don't get yo " Oh it just a type of sexual orientation" face ass here burh..........


OT: I'd suggest you type that in Xvideo search engine, You will be amused, I guarantee.

Jul 26, 2015 9:40 AM

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loli's = yes.

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