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| Great and painful episode, FFS. yalvyn said: Yuuna's calmness is scary. Girl with mentality like her must be the kind that Taisha want the most. Yeah, I felt that too. I was like "OMFGWTF this girl" when she said "because I'm a hero." |
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WingKing said: Nalehw said: That's monstrous. True, Nalehw, but I suspected it might be something like that, which is exactly why I asked. As if that scene wasn't emotionally charged enough already. Anyway, thanks for answering my question, Nocturnal! That's going to be very helpful when I (inevitably) go back and re-watch the episode this weekend. It adds a note of dissonance to the whole situation, such positive lyrics that fit Itsuki to a t. It'd just be a sweet, uplifting song if not for the context. Glad I could help. Hopefully if the series is ever released abroad the lyrics will be translated. And I wonder, why hasn't Karin hit mankai yet? I have a horrible feeling she will go mankai multiple times and become a vegetable or something. |
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| Noooo such a sad episode ;_; they can never recover, even Itsiki who wanted to be a singer! Now I hate the Taisha. So I though Togo's point about the faeries is interesting. While the faeries look like they exist to protect the heroes, they're actually there to force the heroes to do their job as...human sacrifices o_o Although I get the whole flower symbol thing now. The flowers bloom as they use their power, and after they fully bloom (they use the Mankai), they wilt, and lose bodily functions. That's a pretty cool symbol if you ask me! But it's so sad :( they are such nice people, but they are forced to sacrifice themselves in order to save the world. This was so cheery in the beginning but now... I can see where Fuu's guilt is coming from. She didn't know about the Mankai but she did know about the hero thing beforehand |
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PetitFours said: Damn. This deserves a bit higher than 6.98 no? Yes, definitely. |
PetitFours said: It has been going up so there's that.Damn. This deserves a bit higher than 6.98 no? |
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| The show is rated by a mere ~2.2k users. 800 people have dropped it. Quite a few people rate shows they drop, and obviously they rate it thrash. There's also a lot of people (most actually) who don't rate a show until it's completed. You can expect it to get quite a nice jump in score once the show is over and everyone who watched it till the end starts rating it. It's just sad how the low score keeps people from checking it out, this show deserves more popularity! About the actual episode. I didn't think anything of it when Togo said she tried to kill herself multiple times. Never once did I think she gave in to despair or anything like that, I just didn't get that vibe from the scene. She just did some researched based on the information they'd received. She probably started off lightly, trying to injure herself in some way that'd make her incapable of combat. Once she saw how the fairies reacted she went to more extremes. Considering the state she's in it's no wonder she's not afraid to die, so she probably didn't think too badly of the experiments. Loved the ending, I liked this show from the start but it's just getting better and better. This episode bumped it up to a 9/10 for me, and with a solid finale I'm quite likely to increase it further. Looking forward to seeing what'll happen to the hero club. |
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xytech said: The show is rated by a mere ~2.2k users. 800 people have dropped it. Quite a few people rate shows they drop, and obviously they rate it thrash. There's also a lot of people (most actually) who don't rate a show until it's completed. You can expect it to get quite a nice jump in score once the show is over and everyone who watched it till the end starts rating it. It's just sad how the low score keeps people from checking it out, this show deserves more popularity! This is exactly why you should rate this anime high (if you think it deserves it) even if it isn't in your taste to rate anime before it's over. To promote it. Also why do people keep on jumping to extremes when they saw Togo try to kill herself? It's not that uncommon of people to try to commit suicide or consider to commit suicide as a investigation of sorts. Despair isn't always the reason for suicide. I really couldn't help but cry at seeing Fu go into despair. Every time I saw her face and heard her cry I just ;_; Damn I thought I prepared myself for this... Looks like I didn't prepare myself enough. That was an incredibly emotional part. The BGM was absolutely fantastic and really helped push the emotional levels in this episode. BTW did anybody realize that the first time Fu cried only her functional eye cried but every other time the tears were coming from both eyes. Was this just a screw up? or perhaps the eye patch absorbed the tears? Or maybe Fu's eye is becoming functional again? There is a bit of hope... Although I suspect that it was just a screw up... |
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Nocturnal said: It adds a note of dissonance to the whole situation, such positive lyrics that fit Itsuki to a t. It'd just be a sweet, uplifting song if not for the context. Glad I could help. Hopefully if the series is ever released abroad the lyrics will be translated. And I wonder, why hasn't Karin hit mankai yet? I have a horrible feeling she will go mankai multiple times and become a vegetable or something. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a North American release. Pony Canyon just set up their own US division for anime licensing and home video releases, and this is one of the first two shows that the new PonyCanUS has in their inventory (Denki Gai is the other). Of course we've seen many times in the past that just owning a license for North America doesn't guarantee that we'll see an actual commercial release, but they do have an English language website up for Yuki Yuna and it has a (still inactive) "BD/DVD" link on it. So I'm cautiously hopeful at this point, but obviously it would help its chances of getting released here if we could get more people to actually watch the show. Unfortunately magical girl has often been a tough sell in the US market, Sailor Moon aside. As for why Karin never went Mankai, I'm pretty sure the girls have to make a conscious decision to invoke Mankai mode once they're powered up enough, and she (unlike the others) never had a reason to do that during the episode 5 battle. She took out the first vertex by herself, then got knocked out by the giant merged vertex, and by the time she recovered the battle was already mostly over except for sealing the last one. I just went back and watched some of episode 5 again...of the two transformations where we see the actual moments leading up to it, Yuki shouted "Mankai!" just before she transformed. Fu did not, but she was trapped in the vertex's water bubble at the time and she did say something like "I'm not going to be defeated here" just before her transformation began. Both of those seem like evidence to me like it's done by choice rather than automatically. |
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xytech said: About the actual episode. I didn't think anything of it when Togo said she tried to kill herself multiple times. Never once did I think she gave in to despair or anything like that, I just didn't get that vibe from the scene. She just did some researched based on the information they'd received. She probably started off lightly, trying to injure herself in some way that'd make her incapable of combat. Once she saw how the fairies reacted she went to more extremes. Considering the state she's in it's no wonder she's not afraid to die, so she probably didn't think too badly of the experiments. Agreed. Suicide due to despair doesn't make sense at this point as it would solve nothing and only cause more despair for others. In addition, she had a lot of things left to be done, so of course she would have to keep herself alive to do those things. |
| I have a strong feeling this is going to take a Madoka Magica dive, and we're going to learn that though they cannot be killed outside of battle, If killed in battle, they become a vertex. Or more so, they become gods just like nogi did, and if they don't become gods, they still become vertex. It also gives off a Mai Hime vibe too. |
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| Fantastic episode. Fuu's tears dan Togo's scary experiment, also that silent at the middle and itsuki's song at the end of episode was too much for me. |
| Two straight strong episodes. That's what it means to be a hero in the world. Sacrifices have to be made. Fuu is right to blame herself, though she has the endless support of the rest of the girls. And notice how Togo actually tried to kill herself, and the fact that she wasn't there in the end? I get the feeling that she's actually slipping into despair, or at least the least emotionally stable of the 5 girls. This episode sold Fuu as the one who would break, but I get the feeling that Togo is the closest one to breaking (who would even test killing themselves anyway?). |
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| I expected feels in this anime,but...but i wasn`t prepared ;-; This episode was so sad......... And Yuna,Yuna fighting with Fuu,despite the risks...WOW!! |
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kuuderes_shadow said: Olem said: Seriously, what's up with the tags(Fantasy, Magic, Slice of Life) T_T I was expecting a nice SoL magical girl anime when I first started watching. it was just "Slice of Life" until about the time when episode 3 aired. Madoka was the same. Pretty beast episode that show had then. This is how all maho shojo should be like! As for Togo trying to commit seppuku. Well, maybe she was just testing it since she figured something out? She doesn't strike me as having gone nuts after all. Sadly, even if Heroes aren't supposed to die, I feel like Yuuna is going to go Madoka on us. It should be glorious is played right though. |
naki12 said: This is my attempt at transcribing and translating the insert song ^^ It was hard because it was in the background behind Fuu-senpai's screams and talking, etc. Which made me go through the feels again every time >_< Now Fuu-senpai's voice AND the song are stuck in my head... It's incomplete though, couldn't make out some of the lyrics and some words I am unsure of I put in italics and underline. Great if anyone can correct those parts (or anything else!!) Romaji English translation Fuu-senpai so much suffering ;_; Why did you have to take Itsuki's voice of all things? Y u do dis to Itsuki?? How can she continue to sing now?! She finally found her dream... She had one dream... ONE DREAM!! Taisha and Shinju-sama no kuso yarou! The song is already available, by the way, it's in the OP single. |
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mayukachan said: I haven't even watched this anime yet, but it looks like I have to now. Do itttt! It's a pretty good mahou shoujo/moe/slice of life! |
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Saffron_entity said: xytech said: The show is rated by a mere ~2.2k users. 800 people have dropped it. Quite a few people rate shows they drop, and obviously they rate it thrash. There's also a lot of people (most actually) who don't rate a show until it's completed. You can expect it to get quite a nice jump in score once the show is over and everyone who watched it till the end starts rating it. It's just sad how the low score keeps people from checking it out, this show deserves more popularity! Also why do people keep on jumping to extremes when they saw Togo try to kill herself? It's not that uncommon of people to try to commit suicide or consider to commit suicide as a investigation of sorts. Despair isn't always the reason for suicide. BTW did anybody realize that the first time Fu cried only her functional eye cried but every other time the tears were coming from both eyes. Was this just a screw up? or perhaps the eye patch absorbed the tears? Or maybe Fu's eye is becoming functional again? There is a bit of hope... Although I suspect that it was just a screw up... 1) It is an extreme. Kinda escalated quickly, but probably a lot more happened behind the scenes considering who Togo really is and all. 2) IIRC, shes just blind and blindness does not stop fluids in the eye from working. |
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| Itsuki is really, really a strong girl. Not everyone will easily accepted at the fact that they can't succeed their dream anymore. I understand how Fu feels though... A really nice episode of feels. |
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| Holy cow how much of a badass is Tougo?! Committing suicide not once but 10 freaking times? There's no way to guarantee that the spirits can protect you from anything. She even tried CO poisoning lol. And afterwards analyzing the results so rationally. This girl has balls XD As for Fu, I can understand the logic behind her pain, but I don't sympathize with her at all. The moment she roped the girls in for the fight, she should have been prepared for them to die or get maimed. That's a burden the leader should fully understand from the very start. Not only is she ineffectual as Karin states, but the thing that irked me about her the most is that she got her own family involved to begin with. I have 4 sisters myself, and even if a God requested it I would never put a family member in danger like that, I find what she did incomprehensible. |
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| Wow. It took a long, long time - 9 episodes - until the series finally reached the point I was waiting for. Totally worth the patience. Great voice acting, wonderful music! |
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| The Hero system is full of shit.... fight the Taiga... this is BS... middle school girls shouldn't have to sacrifice themselves Q_Q |
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ramenshojo said: Holy cow how much of a badass is Tougo?! Committing suicide not once but 10 freaking times? There's no way to guarantee that the spirits can protect you from anything. She even tried CO poisoning lol. And afterwards analyzing the results so rationally. This girl has balls XD As for Fu, I can understand the logic behind her pain, but I don't sympathize with her at all. The moment she roped the girls in for the fight, she should have been prepared for them to die or get maimed. That's a burden the leader should fully understand from the very start. Not only is she ineffectual as Karin states, but the thing that irked me about her the most is that she got her own family involved to begin with. I have 4 sisters myself, and even if a God requested it I would never put a family member in danger like that, I find what she did incomprehensible. I think the thing with this is, she didn't fully realize the danger she was putting all of them though. Sure it includes fighting, but the Taisha probably kept all the the dangerous things secret. And also, seeing as how attached Itsuki is to her sister, even if Fu told her no, I think she still would've joined the club anyways. It'd look suspicious otherwise. |
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wheresthehandle said: Madoka lite confirmed Being Madoka inspired was pretty much evident from the very first episode. Did we really need this comment? Don't get me wrong, I'm a complete Madoka fangirl, love the show inside out and consider it to be a masterpiece, but if labeling Yuki Yuna as a "lite" version of something else is not an insult I don't know what is. The differences are distinct enough to allow this series to stand strong on its own. I don't think the magical girls predicament is any worse off than the heroes or vice versa. Both have completely different circumstances. Takei_Hisa said: I think the thing with this is, she didn't fully realize the danger she was putting all of them though. Sure it includes fighting, but the Taisha probably kept all the the dangerous things secret. And also, seeing as how attached Itsuki is to her sister, even if Fu told her no, I think she still would've joined the club anyways. It'd look suspicious otherwise. I don't buy it. The idea of fighting itself is already a massive red flag for anyone with common sense. I don't know if you've ever been in a fight before, but it's bloody dangerous even between humans, nevermind some unknown monster thing from another dimension. I'm sure there would have been another way around it had she thought it through properly. And er.. just wanna say that your MAL name is pretty awesome ;-) |
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ramenshojo said: Being Madoka inspired was pretty much evident from the very first episode. Did we really need this comment? Don't get me wrong, I'm a complete Madoka fangirl, love the show inside out and consider it to be a masterpiece, but if labeling Yuki Yuna as a "lite" version of something else is not an insult I don't know what is. Why would that be an insult? It's obviously Madoka inspired, but it's not as heavy as Madoka, therefore it's "lite". |
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Paulo27 said: Why would that be an insult? It's obviously Madoka inspired, but it's not as heavy as Madoka, therefore it's "lite". It's "heavy" in a different way imo, (not necessarily visually or in terms of mood etc) so I can't agree with that. Not to mention the show hasn't even finished airing yet. I suppose though a lot of people would think the same way you do, so this series will forever be woefully underrated because people see comments like "Madoka clone/copy/lite" and think "Nah. Inferior trash copy of another anime, not worth watching." |
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ramenshojo said: [ I don't buy it. The idea of fighting itself is already a massive red flag for anyone with common sense. I don't know if you've ever been in a fight before, but it's bloody dangerous even between humans, nevermind some unknown monster thing from another dimension. I'm sure there would have been another way around it had she thought it through properly. Fighting itself is only a red flag for injury and death via fighting. Losing her voice and her dream would never come to someones mind when the choice is to fight. When someone plays a high impact sport they are prepared to get injured but not lose their sense of taste or voice, especially when its completely unrelated with what they're doing. In its own way, letting Itsuki fight has caused Itsuki's self confidence to grow and to step out of her sister's shadow and stand beside her. Even now, Itsuki isn't angry at her sister or upset. Either way Itsuki would have joined the fight. |
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ramenshojo said: Paulo27 said: Why would that be an insult? It's obviously Madoka inspired, but it's not as heavy as Madoka, therefore it's "lite". It's "heavy" in a different way imo, (not necessarily visually or in terms of mood etc) so I can't agree with that. Not to mention the show hasn't even finished airing yet. I suppose though a lot of people would think the same way you do, so this series will forever be woefully underrated because people see comments like "Madoka clone/copy/lite" and think "Nah. Inferior trash copy of another anime, not worth watching." A rip-off doesn't always mean it's bad, if anything it's a good thing because Madoka was really good so shows that have the same themes and plot should also be pretty decent unless they really mess up. And by "not as heavy" I simply mean it's not so dark, sure there's some despair and destroying little girls' hopes and dreams isn't nice but it's not like Madoka that killed characters or drove them insane. Even if this show does kill off someone I still wouldn't consider it as heavy as Madoka, not to mention Madoka barely had any SoL, and it wasn't a part of the show you probably even remember. They are different but the similarities are there and it's pretty hard not to notice. If you want another example, while not the best one but the first one I can think off, Fate/stay night is very much a lite version of Fate/Zero, it's basically the same thing but F/SN is a lot more calm, as where F/Z is a lot more dark, more mature if you will. |
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| So, no one who's a Hero can die? Sweet! But....they are sacrificing there bodies to save the world......not sweet..... Damn, nearly cried during this episode...... Poor Itsuki, having to be forced to not speak anymore, making her dream of being a singer.......gone forever.... Well......forever? Will the girls ever be cured? :( |
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| It IS heavier than the Madoka sufferings, what you get in Madoka? Death, NTR (not actually), and more death. On paper death is heavier than any others for sure, but it's only for shock value and chracters does not react enough to it, so it becomes too unreal that I cannot feel any sympathy in the end. Plus, Yuyuyu is more like Eva, if anything. Madoka is not the inventor of dark anime. |
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ramenshojo said: Takei_Hisa said: I think the thing with this is, she didn't fully realize the danger she was putting all of them though. Sure it includes fighting, but the Taisha probably kept all the the dangerous things secret. And also, seeing as how attached Itsuki is to her sister, even if Fu told her no, I think she still would've joined the club anyways. It'd look suspicious otherwise. I don't buy it. The idea of fighting itself is already a massive red flag for anyone with common sense. I don't know if you've ever been in a fight before, but it's bloody dangerous even between humans, nevermind some unknown monster thing from another dimension. I'm sure there would have been another way around it had she thought it through properly. And er.. just wanna say that your MAL name is pretty awesome ;-) well, I can see your point... I still think from Fu's perspective, it probably wasn't this kind of fighting that would be taking place. Maybe I forgot but, I don't even think Fu was completely informed as to what they would be fighting against or what their true role was. idk. And thanks :) I love my MAL username too *w* |
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Paulo27 said: And by "not as heavy" I simply mean it's not so dark, sure there's some despair and destroying little girls' hopes and dreams isn't nice but it's not like Madoka that killed characters or drove them insane. Even if this show does kill off someone I still wouldn't consider it as heavy as Madoka, not to mention Madoka barely had any SoL, and it wasn't a part of the show you probably even remember. They are different but the similarities are there and it's pretty hard not to notice. The frequent Madoka comparisons aren't surprising to me, because that was the last major "reference point" anime for this type of serious magical girl series, so it's also the freshest one on people's minds. And while comparing it to Madoka is perfectly valid, as I alluded to in my review I also see plenty of comparisons that I could make between Yuki Yuna and the Lyrical Nanoha franchise. That shouldn't be a surprise either because Nanoha itself was a "reference point" franchise that influenced Madoka. And both of them in turn owe a debt to Revolutionary Girl Utena, which might have done more than any other show before Madoka to push the magical girl genre into darker and more adult-themed territory. What we're seeing with Yuki Yuna is a show that's trying to come to terms with the post-Madoka fallout and its impact on the magical girl genre, while still finding its own voice and telling its own story. And for the most part, I think it's handled that rather well. Especially with these last two episodes, I think it's finally becoming clear the direction that this show wants to go, and that direction is thematically very different from Madoka, even if some of the superficial trappings are similar. The girls in Yuki Yuna didn't seek power for pride or personal gain, like so many of the girls in Madoka - they sought power in order to protect their homes and loved ones from harm, and the price they're paying is one that many heroes have had to pay in the real world too, in order to uphold the ideals that they defend. That doesn't make it any less sad, but it's a sadness that comes from a different place. |
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