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| A lot of information this episode, but this was needed to explain how the STL works and what exactly is going on with Kirito. It became quite interesting. |
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Shadzzo said: >rights of artificial intelligence Sigh this moralfag called Asuna is so annoying. I want to go back to adventures with shota brothers already. It's literally explained in the episode that those are copies of real human beings. |
GuidedCursor said: "1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless." >Asuna : "I'm angry as hell" *a couple thousands people died during SAO* >Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito." Really? This is what you interpreted? The event at SAO happened 3 years ago in their world, Asuna can't do anything for the people she killed and died on the incident. She even says that with Rinko in how none of them can change the past now that everything happened, which is totally different than now when she's seeing this at the very moment. |
caio_brb said: Shadzzo said: >rights of artificial intelligence Sigh this moralfag called Asuna is so annoying. I want to go back to adventures with shota brothers already. It's literally explained in the episode that those are copies of real human beings. Computer AI that thinks its a real human* They dont have a real human body. |
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| Prety disapointing and useless episode, again, this was worse than filler....Ok, we got it, they took Kirito away to heal him while he helps the dudes test those super people based AI. For me that just ruins the potential suspense this revelation could've had further on. It would've been much better to keep us on suspense soo we could learn this stuff when the MC learns it. Lets not even talk about how ridiculous is the notion of them wanting AI that can disobey orders to use them in a war, and that they are creating those AI in a peacefull envyroment, or why the fuck you would want your war AI to have a fucking personality. There would be many uses to this kind of AI, but warzones is seriously the most ridiculous and most stupid reason you would want an AI like this. But i guess we have to be reminded this is SAO, and that kirito has a harem, i thought maybe this series had hope to finaly have some actual good story instead of just eye candy action...This and the last episode was the punch in the gut i needed to remenber the huge wasted potential this series alwways had, and will likely, ever have. |
TougenNov 10, 2018 5:55 PM
| Yeah, gonna drop this. I couldn't even finish this episode. I liked the previous seasons with all it's flaws and whatnot, but these past six episodes were unbearable to watch. |
| I have so many questions but they don't really matter... Asuna seemed so off; Goes all the way to kikuouka to find the truth Satisfied with some half-ar*ed answer Wtf How old are kirito and asuna? Are they actually married now? (I've forgotten) |
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| this author needs to stop trying to explain things..... He doesnt understand how computers work, how ai works, how science works, how politics works or anything. Before the explanation its all fine, dandy and mysterious but every time he explains something, he makes it dumber. |
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| This was okay, until they started talking about the rights of computer generated souls. I can understand it, but I don't really care about it. I can't wait to know if Blond Kirito is a real human or not. I hope he is. I am not a big fan of the female characters in this anime, so I really liked how Kirito got most of the focus this time. Then, we went back to the girls! Asuna is cool, but the other girls are just . . . well. . . quite boring. |
It's a human soul but without a body. That's basically the difference between inhabitants of the Underworld and people from the real world. |
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| - I think this project to make a rules that no human can break... - but as ussual... i dont know what the hell happen here... - i just sit and drink while watch this..... |
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| So Project Alicization is basically taking the minds of humans and then "cloning" them into artificial intelligence into a virtual world that can learn on its own to be able to kill? What is this, Total Annihilation? Kikuoka: "100,000 virtual beings are worth less than one JSDF soldier." Asuna: "You monster! 2D lives matter!" Now that ending with Rinko. Don't tell me that Akihiko Kayaba is still alive...as a fluctlight...What the hell man... |
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| Rinko felt obligated to help Asuna as she felt guilty for being an accomplice of Kayaba. This might also be the reason why she created the Medicuboid to ease her guilt, which had been a great help in Medical field, like how it help Yuuki to live in VR. But also because of this the STL is made, the Medicuboid is its based prototype. Kikouka is not really a pure bad guy, as he atleast let Asuna know the specifics, but then maybe he just also want to compromised Rinko so they can get her help lol xD Seems like Kayaba still involved in the progression of VR technology even though he is physically absent here. From Nervegear the Medicuboid is made, which is system design by him, its just Rinko who developed the actual machine. Then the STL is made from the Medicuboid, using it as its based prototype. Or its seems like its actually all according to his keikaku xD That Higa clone demonstration was creepier than in the novels, with the visual and distorted sound. Nurse Aki is back, lol that salute. Next episode should be back to underworld. Back to bromance. |
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GuidedCursor said: Of course she doesn't hold a grudge. Nobody she cared about died in SAO so she's fine with it."1,000 AI NPC "Lives" on computer are worthless." >Asuna : "I'm angry as hell" *a couple thousands people died during SAO* >Asuna : "At least I've spent some quality time with Kirito." |
| if it was the real world a single person informing the press about this "project" and the whole thing would be insantly shut down with japan regarded as an insane inhuman country by the rest of the world for the next 50 years but this is anime so i guess it's alright, they're just AIs xddd let's torture them and shit |
| First half was meh Second was good Second ep is still best ep Asuna's way of thinking is interesting |
AkerakaiNov 10, 2018 11:30 PM
| Most underated anime on mal: https://myanimelist.net/anime/4651/Yume_no_Crayon_Oukoku?q=Yume%20ni%20crayon |
-Riptide- said: It's a human soul but without a body. That's basically the difference between inhabitants of the Underworld and people from the real world. No its not human soul. The technology let them copy the brain neuron network and recreate it in a virtual enviroment. Its a perfect humanlike ai created with emotions + memories and everything of the person. This still doesnt make them real humans. |
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| I caught lots of points brought up that the AI could go rogue and activate singularity because the way they want to use AI as slaves. example asunas: "the rights of artificial intelligence" or Kikuokas: "The lives of 100,000 artificial intelligence are worth far less than a single SDF soldiers" |
Shadzzo said: -Riptide- said: It's a human soul but without a body. That's basically the difference between inhabitants of the Underworld and people from the real world. No its not human soul. The technology let them copy the brain neuron network and recreate it in a virtual enviroment. Its a perfect humanlike ai created with emotions + memories and everything of the person. This still doesnt make them real humans. The real question here is....WHY THE FUCK would someone want this kind of AI with felings and fear and whatnot in a battlefield? And worse, they want an AI that can BREAK the rules, thats literaly the oposite you want from a battlefield AI. Realy, the author must be retarded. Either the dude is lying and he wants the AI for something else, and the story is stupid because kirito's useles RL companions actualy believed that, or worse....The dude's realy intend on using this kind of AI for war. And then that just means the writter of this thing has no idea how the world works, at ALL. |
TougenNov 11, 2018 12:56 AM
Tougen said: Shadzzo said: No its not human soul. The technology let them copy the brain neuron network and recreate it in a virtual enviroment. Its a perfect humanlike ai created with emotions + memories and everything of the person. This still doesnt make them real humans. The real question here is....WHY THE FUCK would someone want this kind of AI with felings and fear and whatnot in a battlefield? And worse, they want an AI that can BREAK the rules, thats literaly the oposite you want from a battlefield AI. Realy, the author must be retarded. Either the dude is lying and he wants the AI for something else, and the story is stupid because kirito's useles RL companions actualy believed that, or worse....The dude's realy intend on using this kind of AI for war. And then that just means the writter of this thing has no idea how the world works, at ALL. I agree. It would be much better to create fearless obedient robot like AI clones to use in war. |
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Tougen said: Shadzzo said: No its not human soul. The technology let them copy the brain neuron network and recreate it in a virtual enviroment. Its a perfect humanlike ai created with emotions + memories and everything of the person. This still doesnt make them real humans. The real question here is....WHY THE FUCK would someone want this kind of AI with felings and fear and whatnot in a battlefield? And worse, they want an AI that can BREAK the rules, thats literaly the oposite you want from a battlefield AI. Realy, the author must be retarded. Either the dude is lying and he wants the AI for something else, and the story is stupid because kirito's useles RL companions actualy believed that, or worse....The dude's realy intend on using this kind of AI for war. And then that just means the writter of this thing has no idea how the world works, at ALL. You are looking at this through an accute lense. That’s not the purpose. The purpose is to create a highly capable and adaptive AI that has the capacity akin to that of a human mind to learn and adapt to new situation because often the course of battle is unpredictable and many things don’t go according to plan (our world is not so ideal that you can predict with a pre-programmed code), so that’s one major advantage. The example of AI being too obedient and idealistic to its own world rules is just an example to emphasize the underlying fact that they still haven’t reached the more superior form of AI that has the full potential and is capable of having a capacity to think and act and learn like a human mind on its own. It’s not the best comparison, but i like to think of this concept’s end game as achieving something similar to Yoko Taro’s game Nier Automata’s 2B, 9S, etc who are androids that fight for humanity yet they feel so human. |
Shishou_23Nov 11, 2018 1:42 AM
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I love how mature Asuna looks here (right click->view image for bigger):  She's ready to kick some butt! |
| (|__/) Never give up, aim for the top! (='.'=) Top wo nerae! o(")(") Anime music: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=777199 |
| well well well the true intention is to make a soul that capable to kill... SOUNDS GOOD DOESN'T WORK - TRUMP |
| Trust me people, it's better that you all are able to watch this exposition dump. Reading it is fucking agonizing. Side note...whoever made that joke about Asuna's hypocrisy...you're the champ fam. Rinko is mega babe tho. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
RzN23 said: The final scene with a person in the stl was kayaba right? Dont mind the spoiler That was Kirito i believe. |
NAZMUS_SHADAT said: But why do they show the soul I mean fluclight of kayaba before that? there was also more stl machine besides kirito's. Well Rinko woke up cause she was dreaming of Kayaba and that other STL machine I think is still being worked on. I believe they mentioned it during the episode but can't recall what it was said about it. |
| aaaaah it bore me to tears i mean exposition and story is alright and all but i seriously couldn't care less about these characters i like the bits with Kirito and Eugeo because i kinda like the world and Eugeo is easily my favourite character in the SAO franchise but the real world bits just make me die inside |
| Well Eugeo is gay, Asuna is easily the best character. |
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Mattinator95 said: People complaining about exposition then there's me watching monogatori for an hour People should make a monogatari marathon to relativise things a bit. Boltz said: Well Eugeo is gay, Asuna is easily the best character. Yeah and Alice aswell. |
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ComboSmooth said: this author needs to stop trying to explain things..... He doesnt understand how computers work, how ai works, how science works, how politics works or anything. Before the explanation its all fine, dandy and mysterious but every time he explains something, he makes it dumber. This reminds me of people who complain about how science is used in SciAdv, they do not try to be exact, they try to rely on science to do things that "can not be done" This is also common in Hack where science of use in favor of the MMO but that really does not make sense if we apply it to real life. |
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