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| Oh finally some revelations. Thoughts from Episode 23 Misato is finally getting throught over Kaji and can now accept his feelings. Asuka is still useless in piloting EVA after seeing how people don't praise her anymore. That Angel they fight had pretty disturbing powers like fusing with EVA's together. And Rei defended Shinji all time and Of course Gendo sent Shinji to battlefield cause he wanted him to save a Rei. I still don't understand why Rei's ghost form wanted to connect Shinji's heart with her and becoming one. I guess SEELE and ADAM are something that get's close to GOD. They never been showed than in earlier episodes. ADAM is First Angel and EVA is human created mecha's with has human souls like Ritsuko told. And EVA where built from ADAM's data. Yeah I would like to know those questions too. However we learnt finally that Rei is born in NERV's underground place. And she is clone and used for dummy plugs. And these clones are dummy plugs core in that underground basement. SEELE has now found new mouse Ritsuko. Ritsuko will probably be in high positioning for producing mass EVA army. Why SEELE need 14 Unit's of Evangelion. Why ADAM exist? What they are using it for? Which is Gendo's true objective? I would like to get these answers soon there is only 3 episodes left. |
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| dis shit cray |
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| There was so much going on in this episode, it was overwhelming. Everybody is a mess. Except for Rei, because she's now a brand new person. I just hope that things won't get any worse for them. Which is very likely, knowing the plot so far. Damn it, maybe I got to immersed. |
| Wow i'm so confused,the anime is getting even more confused. A lot of secrets has been revealed,and even more to be revealed :) |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
CanadaAotS said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Kind of confusing. And the part with the Rei-clones floating around, Really creepy o_o As for the battle, good as usual. Again, REALLY creepy when Shinji's hand get's this little organic face nodule thing poking out and it starts to speak XD Only 1 angel left to fight! I expect an epic battle, and/or something really crazy and mind bending to happen. 3 episodes left! I never saw that Shinji part o_O I thought it was awesome! Tons of Rei's that got destroyed! :( |
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| Woah... (still not 100% aware of whats going on) |
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| Seriously this episode was a total mind-f**k !!! |
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| When exactly does it reveal that Rei is a clone of Yui? It's slightly implied at best... maybe I should be watching the director's cut. |
| If Rei is crying due some subconscious imprints... Even as a clone with separate bodies and presumably separate memories, I guess this suggests there are trace memories that stay with her when they change to the next clone? In a way, I'm hoping this is the case. It would make her more of an "individual" in a way. |
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| Wow... I can't even fathom what just happened. This whole thing is just.... wow. It's all making sense now. |
| Aha...ahaha..haha...haha...ha...I'm confused. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| man,, i wonder how the dynamic between rei and shiji is gonna be now, redders |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
| I think i understand most things, however even if somehow magically everything gets cleared up in the remaining 3 episodes, this is still a mess and a failure of a show. Having a bunch of supposed mysteries and a lack of answers and cohesion for 23+ episodes(even longer with the director cuts) is not what i consider a masterpiece. Sure there are strengths here and there, but this is the definition of an overrated show, much like the ambitions of Gendou and Seele, it has too high of a view of itself and ultimately fails. |
| This episode helped to fully connect the dots on many of the things that had been piecing together throughout. Seeing all of those Rei clones was eerie but I can't really say my mind's been blown yet. My main question still remains though: I wonder what brought about the angels in the first place and what their motives/purpose are now. |
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| This was an interesting episode. In it we learn that Rei has died once for real and dies again in this episode. Something seems different in this Rei as she crushes the glasses Gendo gave her that she used to treasure. Finally we learn her spare bodies are the source of the dummy plug system which explains why Unit-01 rejected her, as Rei is Gendo’s attempt to replace Yui. |
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| I think I speak for all when I say. What. The. Fuck. Aside from that the episode was really confusing and creepy. Especially when those vien-like things appeared on Rei and Shinji's bodies... And the Rei-clones part.. |
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."  |
| So were on the third Rei now? |
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| So wait... SEELE want to be Gods, so they created Adam, and then created some clones of Adam (Evas) in order to rule the world, right? Damn I still don't get something, It's really confusing. But good episode. |
| What the hell did I just watch? Lol. Creepy episode and it was weird when Shinji's hand had a face on it speaking to him, it looked all mutilated! Rei turning into that big thing and then committing suicide, woah! Then we find out that Rei isn't real, but a clone of the original (Shinji's mom), so many Reis! And then Ritsuko kills all the clones so we only have one Rei left? Guess that would mean we're on the III and final Rei. |
RaidenJun 25, 2014 10:29 PM
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| This show is getting more and more chaotic. Every time something in the mythos is "answered" we just get another set of questions. It's an almost never ending process. Hopefully, everything will be hammered out in the last few episodes. Regardless, Im going to move on to the movies after this and maybe I'll understand it better there. So Rei is clone, which was kind of obvious given the clues that had been placed around. Rei III contains some memory of her previous self, but not the specifics. It's almost like its just an imprint of previous Rei's that are carreid over to the new body. But now, it would seem we are on the last Rei. Ok, So just like Ritsuko's mom, Ritsuko fell into the same trap with Gendo Ikari. To me, thats more than slightly disgusting. Now she's a scapegoat for him in regards to SEELE but why the heck was she naked? That didn't seem to be necessary at all. |
| I suspected Rei to be a clone or experiment of Eva for awhile now. This just confirms it |
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| Those Rei clones though... Starting to get pretty confusing... But damn, every single character has psychological problems~ |
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| Why was Ritsuko naked? |
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| All the characters seem to be in need of consolation, but none of them know how to offer it to each other. Hikari this episode though: "I think it's okay for you to do whatever you want and I won't say anything, because I think you did your best, Asuka." I just loved what she said to Asuka. It wasn't overly emotional, but it wasn't meaningless. One of my favorite lines tbh ;v; So much respect for Hikari. Vexper said: Probably as punishment.Why was Ritsuko naked? Ew... I can't believe Ritsuko had feelings for Gendo. That's just so gross. Seriously, Gendo looked like a creep even as a college student. |
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| It was stated episodes ago that the dummy plug is powered by Rei.. and many foreshadowing about Rei being a clone.. Yeah I saw that coming. |
| I don´t really get it howcome the vice commander wasn´t arrested again. I didn´t get even the reason for him being arrested for the first time, but if there was a reason, why isn´t he arrested now as well, everyone knows about him and he doesn´t somehow hide. |
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| Everyone needs someone to comfort them, but no-one is offering it. We get to know about Rei and how she's already the third clone now that's walking around (last one since they're destroyed now) Yet another woman to fall for Gendo, ... Ritsuko. Also the disturbing image of them being invaded by the Angel was something else. |
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| Heartbreak and Mind break. Ep 23. Plot-The penultimate Angel Armisel comes and Rei dies destroying. However it seems that Rei is not all together human. She is a clone. Of Yui Ikari with strands of Angel DNA. Not only that but Ritsuko reveals the truth behind Rei, the Evas, even 2nd impact to Misato and Shinji. Character-Ritsuko and Rei are put on the center stage. Ritsuko falls this time as her misdeeds are laid bare and her apparent trust/affair with Gendo breaks. History unfortunately repeats itself for the Akagi women. Rei or apparently Rei 2, rose as she not only fought well against the angel but managed to save Shinji, someone she cared about as well. However the topic of her being a clone leaves more questions. Rei 3 is a fresh batch. It is unknown just how much she knows and how much she feels but there may be imprints of the past Rei within her. 4/5. Tragedy/Misery loves company and it seems like everyone is going down on the ship. PS: The clones laughing while dying or smiling was horribly creepy. Shinji, I pity your mental state right now. Surrounded by nothing but crazies. |
AarroninJul 8, 2015 5:05 PM
 I go where I wanna go, even if its into Oppai. |
LOAD said: Ew... I can't believe Ritsuko had feelings for Gendo. That's just so gross. Seriously, Gendo looked like a creep even as a college student. I know. Gendo is a fucking asshole. What do those women see in him? Even other characters, like Fuyutsuki, consider Gendo to be a distasteful man. Even his own son hates him. Like mother, like daughter indeed. |
| Rei's tears. That Angel looked like a halo lol. And Rei had to die... Again, maybe... That is really really sad. Where do they get the soul for Rei from then? Is it recycled too in a way? In any case, that scene with the clones floating and laughing was disturbing and very powerful. |
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| This episode was... creepy. Sidenote: I'm failing to see how this series is supposed to be one of the best anime series of all times. My opinion, but I think it's average at best. Maybe slightly below. Hope there's a nice ending that pulls things together and makes watching the show more worthwhile! |
| Wow that was so creepy and confusing. Seems like everyone is fucking insane. I suspected all along that Rei is a clon. |
| Between the adult world and the world of kids, there, Holyland exists. |
| ASUKA, GET BACK TO THE HOUSE! |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
| Ah so the dummy plugs actually contained Rei clones, not just simply a personality of Rei. Nice half-truth that the protagonists were told. So the clones are in fact linked to a singular subconsciousness, but where exactly does the true Rei reside? The conflict between Seele and Gendo is beginning to escalate and it'll be interesting to see how it plays out in the midst of wherever the plot is heading. |
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| Holy shit, so Rei actually was a clone. But now that Bitchsuko murdered them all, I guess if she dies again that'll be it. So I assume the first Rei was the one that was killed by Blondie's mom, then the second one is the one that just died, which is why this Rei said *I guess I'm the 3rd*. Other then that I still have no idea wth is going on lol. |
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| That 3rd Rei though, so now every other clones have been destroyed, I guess this is the last Rei. Ritsuko's jealous of Rei because she's in love with Gendo apparently, just like her mother who's jealous of Yui. |
| (rewatching again) Rei 1 died when strangled to death. Rei 2 died in this episode (she lasted quite a while). Rei 3 was "born" this episode. The battle with the angle is a bit different (better) in the director's cut. Always memorable is Asuka's line about Commander Ikari not sending Shinji out for her. 5/5 |
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BurntJelly said: Always memorable is Asuka's line about Commander Ikari not sending Shinji out for her. ^ This. That line punched my heart. How about when Eva 00 exploded though? Briefly resembling Rei's figure with the halo. And the fact that Ritsuko also had an affair with Gendo, like her mom. That would explain why Ritsuko said, "The person Unit 00 wanted to hit was me" back in episode 14, if Yui Ikari's personality is indeed embedded in Unit 00... but I believe she's in Unit 01, right? Hmmmm. Anyway, this episode made me yell unintelligible strings of sounds multiple times. |
| This is getting more complex , so this is the last version of Rei . Great Episode . |
| It's very sad to see the tragic truth about Rei and also that last scene was just insane when all other clones of her got killed. |
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| Does this mean the real Rei died a long time ago as in the episode "Rei I" ? Seems like every piece is coming together now. |
| I was annoyed by Asuka all this time, but now I really feel sorry for her. Her sense of self-worth is directly linked to her success with Eva. Once it's gone, her connection with the world is gone, too. Oh, I don't care about Rei anymore. At the beginning, I thought she was just one of those characters who are quiet and needs someone to open up, but she never changed. Yet again, how can she? I guess, Misato is the one for me among female characters. |
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| @karineyn Rei never changed? Her change of view about her "God" was more than clearly expressed in the end of this episode (even if it's Rei III), and Rei II had already said things in this direction earlier in the episode (maybe in previous eps too, not sure anymore). And after seeing Rei I, even Rei II was a big change. The changes are discrete over the series, not anymore in ep.23. Effulgence said: Does this mean the real Rei died a long time ago as in the episode "Rei I" ? Seems like every piece is coming together now. No. There were three Rei shown in the series (not counting the Dummy plug bodies). Rei I died from Akagi Ryoko's hands (litteraly) 10(?) years before, the series starting with Rei II. |
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