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| Can Sonezaki get her shit together? Her shitty attitude is frustrating, it's not normal for someone to be so fucking dense. |
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| ...interesting episode. first off, amagi deserves far better than he'll get from sonezaki. i understand why she's being all "oh gosh gotta hide my feelings" but she can't keep dragging shun down with her and her pit of wannabe emotional trauma. hongou is still hongou; again, where the fuck did she find a mawashi belt that fit her, and is this a common kink in japan? i understood the thong, but a mawashi is overdoing it. kudos to milo-sensei for putting up with her this long, even if he probably should have already told her that she's going too far. momoko is still in the closet. kazusa is getting all obsessed with tits too for no good reason. the whole thing about comparing herself with niina made sense (kinda), but the little monologue about 'boobs jingling' during the pillow fight was fucking weird. also the thing about putting her feelings in the train keychain - stupid yet in character. finally, niina who clearly has some sort of complex over paedophile director. was hoping he'd just be part of the backstory, not that he'd get all involved in niina's love life - he's bound to screw shit up with izumi now. i see why the kiss scene could be taken as necessary, but i would have appreciated a bit more subtlety. oh well. turns out niina's just as immature as the rest of them. |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
 Gee, I wonder who the lesbian is.Not 100% sure if this is what you're asking, but he'd still be a pedophile even if he isn't the one actively making the advances. An attraction to prepubescent children, or the propensity to even see a child in that manner, is the textbook definition of pedophilia. Or something along those lines. |
SJ7izmAug 17, 2019 2:27 AM
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| Can't wait for SJWs to get triggered over Izumi's line when he said he realized that Kazusa was a girl after he beat her in the pitching thing. Even though he was referring to her feelings. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Hooray, my least favourite character is back with a vengeance! At least the anime is doing us the courtesy of making damn sure we know he's the bad guy. A lot of this episode felt very melodramatic, so my investment is slowly starting wane, especially as Hashtag-The-Conflict is starting to rear it's head. Hopefully it'll bring me back by the end, since I can't see myself dropping this, not with how far in I am now. |
| This started of great but , right now i'm not sure if i wanna keep watching . |
| The last scene was unexpected, that kissing scene, yes it was. What clearly i saw from that part is that the teacher is making Sugawara obviously a bad girl, forcing her to do things. I don't see anything interesting on this episode other than that. What we got is, a girl who thinks about boobs, a girl who uses sumo for fantasizing, and a useless pillow fight. This clearly becoming a dirty anime, but I'd love to finish this up to the end. |
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iTitania_ said: Am I the only one who's disgusted by the anime? All I hear is praise but I can't agree at all, the overall premise is nothing more than tasteless and even normalizes taboos like that one teacher-student relationship and pedophilia. How can people find this show appealing, let alone "relatable"? Same here, this feels more like human trash interactions and not real people. Pedo, porn writing school girl, guy that was caught masturbating cause he didn't close his doors - what is wrong with everyone here. The most adequat are president and her guy, though she is really slow, but at least it can be called romance. |
| So here is the thing, i think momoko is gay. However the writing shows her to be a man hater. i know the dude she went out with was full of himself but there were moments when he was trying to be thoughtful and funny. Why does momoko feel so disgusted by that? I don't know if she is a poorly written lesbian, a man-hater or a lesbian man-hater. This series started out great but is now becoming meh. Maybe cuz i'm not a teenage or grown female to understand but there were some weird ass moments. I will do a complete review of this anime when it is finished. |
| Hate the pedo with a fiery passion. But I guess people are misunderstanding his character. He's there for us to hate him, so this is not "normalizing pedophilia". It's showing how much he fucked up Niina's head. Hongou still pursuing Milo-sensei, and he is reacting in the most japanese way possible: do nothing and pray it will be resolved. But it never will, and he knows it. At this point I just want to know to which of the girls is Momo gonna fall in love. Kazusa better step up or she will end up NTR'ed. Of all the comments in the thread, the only one that worries me is this one: cunzeited said: This covered half of chapter 16. Do you guys think the anime will adapt the entire manga(16-32) in 5 episodes? |
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amperevenon said: So here is the thing, i think momoko is gay. However the writing shows her to be a man hater. i know the dude she went out with was full of himself but there were moments when he was trying to be thoughtful and funny. Why does momoko feel so disgusted by that? I don't know if she is a poorly written lesbian, a man-hater or a lesbian man-hater. This series started out great but is now becoming meh. Maybe cuz i'm not a teenage or grown female to understand but there were some weird ass moments. I will do a complete review of this anime when it is finished. You could be right with Momoko, I didn't realize her discomfort with boys until you pointed it out. We'll see how it will play out but at least we know that she's developing feelings for Niina so far. But I can assure you that it's not your fault for not understanding the girls just because you're not female. I'm female and I'm weirded out by their behaviour as well. I didn't think and talk constantly about sex like them in my teenage years, nor did my classmates. That's why I don't understand how others find this show relatable. But well, at least it's entertaining, right? |
iTitania_Aug 8, 2021 7:59 AM
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| The show is starting to lose its charm. Things are moving too slow. |
| what the fuck was that bit in the end right there. SHE DEVELOPED FEELINGS FOR HIM?!?!?!? I THOUGHT IT WAS ONLY MEANT FOR PUSHING HER FRIEND!!! betrayal |
iTitania_ said: amperevenon said: So here is the thing, i think momoko is gay. However the writing shows her to be a man hater. i know the dude she went out with was full of himself but there were moments when he was trying to be thoughtful and funny. Why does momoko feel so disgusted by that? I don't know if she is a poorly written lesbian, a man-hater or a lesbian man-hater. This series started out great but is now becoming meh. Maybe cuz i'm not a teenage or grown female to understand but there were some weird ass moments. I will do a complete review of this anime when it is finished. You could be right with Momoko, I didn't realize her discomfort with boys until you pointed it out. We'll see how it will play out but at least we know that she's developing feelings for Niina so far. But I can assure you that it's not your fault for not understanding the girls just because you're not female. I'm female and I'm weirded out by their behaviour as well. I didn't think and talk constantly about sex like them in my teenage years, nor didn't my classmates. That's why I don't understand how others find this show relatable. But well, at least it's entertaining, right? It diverges. I'm a male. In my high school days I remind in my school a lot of talk about sex and relationships, from both girls and boys, either seryously or kidding, there was a lot of sexual conotation in their topics. I guess it's cultural (vary from country to country and regions). In the case of this anime it's a japanese culture, maybe that's why some scenes are a little weird for us (japanese culture is very conservative about sex, and some of they still defends a "feminine purity" as an ideal trait). |
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| Suddenly Niina has a crush on Izumi ? There isn't really any development behind that, feels kinda forced for the sake of drama. |
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| Glad that the misunderstanding has been cleared up. Wait did pedo just kissed her |
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| This anime is just getting creepier and creepier. I already hated the teacher and the goatee guy, but now I'm starting to dislike some of the girls as well. The white-haired girl especially, she's now coming off as more of a sociopath than just aloof. It seems like instead of developing each of the their stories individually they're gonna put them against one another for the sake of drama, which I think is unnecessary for this type of show. I don't wanna see this turn into just another love triangle. And am I the only one who's getting some lesbian vibes from the brown-haired girl? |
AnotherGuyAug 17, 2019 10:52 AM
| Just saying lol That teacher should've fucked Niina right there... I mean.. who wouldn't??? |
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| Lol Kazusa is getting drowned in oppai. Also is Sugawara gonna go after Izumi after all? Never really liked her much she gives the ntr vibes. Also that last part did they really just kiss?Eww gross. |
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slavemaster_1991 said: excuse me but what else were you expecting? A bunch of cute mature girls who only make good choices???iTitania_ said: Am I the only one who's disgusted by the anime? All I hear is praise but I can't agree at all, the overall premise is nothing more than tasteless and even normalizes taboos like that one teacher-student relationship and pedophilia. How can people find this show appealing, let alone "relatable"? Same here, this feels more like human trash interactions and not real people. Pedo, porn writing school girl, guy that was caught masturbating cause he didn't close his doors - what is wrong with everyone here. The most adequat are president and her guy, though she is really slow, but at least it can be called romance. |
Hatsuyuki said: Suddenly Niina has a crush on Izumi ? There isn't really any development behind that, feels kinda forced for the sake of drama. Is definitely for the sake of drama but is not sudden nor forced if you really pay attention to Niina's character and her way of acting / body language during her interactions with Izumi. Niina is a loner. A girl who tends to avoid guys because they only are after her for the way she looks, which is also the reason why girls aren't usually very fond of her. The only place where she interacts with people is the literature club. This where Izumi comes into play. The guy who her "first friend" has a crush on and who she sarts being friendly with the only intention of helping her friend to be with him. She's also interested in Izumi because her friend has a crush on him and she wants to know why, because thanks to her past experience with Saegusa, her belief is that boys/men aren't "good". But despite her preconceptions about boys, Niina and Izumi had a really good chemistry going on between them to the point she had her first genuine reactions outside her circle of friends. Normally she's pretty calm and composed but around Izumi she slowly opens up to him, even more than with her friends of the literature club, to the point of telling him about her past and Saegusa. I mean, she tells Izumi that she sees "why Kasuza is in love with him", they share a really nice moment discussing his love for trains and she even laughs and blushes when he gets flustered after finding out Kasuza likes him. How could this happen? Well, mainly because neither Niina or Izumi are trying to flirt with one another, which causes their interactions to feel pretty organic and lack the ackwardness between two people who are trying to impress the other part. Their conversations are really genuine and have no hidden meaning behind it, which is really important when getting to know a person. Does Niina loves Izumi? I don't think so. She's just starting to know him but she clearly likes him (not that she has much to compare with since she never hangs out with guys). This could be just her realizing that she can build relationships with guys the same way she's able to do it with her friends from the literature club or she could be simply attracted to a "really nice guy" who isn't after her just because she's pretty. Also, let's not forget she was the one who brought up the whole "having sex" thing. Is not that complicated man haha. They are just teenagers being teenagers |
shinramainAug 17, 2019 1:04 PM
| This episode was awesome, ehem, I mean boobytastic. Many highlights and wooh, things are going down between Sugawara and her "daddy". |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Same guy crush incoming !!!! This anime depicts shoujo so well. |
adictoalatrama said: Hatsuyuki said: Suddenly Niina has a crush on Izumi ? There isn't really any development behind that, feels kinda forced for the sake of drama. Is definitely for the sake of drama but is not sudden nor forced if you really pay attention to Niina's character and her way of acting / body language during her interactions with Izumi. Niina is a loner. A girl who tends to avoid guys because they only are after her for the way she looks, which is also the reason why girls aren't usually very fond of her. The only place where she interacts with people is the literature club. This where Izumi comes into play. The guy who her "first friend" has a crush on and who she sarts being friendly with the only intention of helping her friend to be with him. She's also interested in Izumi because her friend has a crush on him and she wants to know why, because thanks to her past experience with Saegusa, her belief is that boys/men aren't "good". But despite her preconceptions about boys, Niina and Izumi had a really good chemistry going on between them to the point she had her first genuine reactions outside her circle of friends. Normally she's pretty calm and composed but around Izumi she slowly opens up to him, even more than with her friends of the literature club, to the point of telling him about her past and Saegusa. I mean, she tells Izumi that she sees "why Kasuza is in love with him", they share a really nice moment discussing his love for trains and she even laughs and blushes when he gets flustered after finding out Kasuza likes him. How could this happen? Well, mainly because neither Niina or Izumi are trying to flirt with one another, which causes their interactions to feel pretty organic and lack the ackwardness between two people who are trying to impress the other part. Their conversations are really genuine and have no hidden meaning behind it, which is really important when getting to know a person. Does Niina loves Izumi? I don't think so. She's just starting to know him but she clearly likes him (not that she has much to compare with since she never hangs out with guys). This could be just her realizing that she can build relationships with guys the same way she's able to do it with her friends from the literature club or she could be simply attracted to a "really nice guy" who isn't after her just because she's pretty. Also, let's not forget she was the one who brought up the whole "having sex" thing. Is not that complicated man haha. They are just teenagers being teenagers Just questioning the writing, not the mentality of a teenager. This is turning very "Kuzu no Honkai"-ish and I loved that show but never once did I feel like the stuations in that show weren't believable somehow. Unfortunately I can't say the same about this show after this episode. |
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Hatsuyuki said: Just questioning the writing, not the mentality of a teenager. This is turning very "Kuzu no Honkai"-ish and I loved that show but never once did I feel like the stuations in that show weren't believable somehow. Unfortunately I can't say the same about this show after this episode. What? Kuzu no Honkai is the king of forced convenient melodrama. |
dc22 said: Hatsuyuki said: Just questioning the writing, not the mentality of a teenager. This is turning very "Kuzu no Honkai"-ish and I loved that show but never once did I feel like the stuations in that show weren't believable somehow. Unfortunately I can't say the same about this show after this episode. What? Kuzu no Honkai is the king of forced convenient melodrama. Don't recall noticing anything as glaring as this. Give me examples. |
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shanimebib said: iTitania_ said: Am I the only one who's disgusted by the anime? All I hear is praise but I can't agree at all, the overall premise is nothing more than tasteless and even normalizes taboos like that one teacher-student relationship and pedophilia. How can people find this show appealing, let alone "relatable"? Plus the character's behaviour are absolutely ridiculous like Kazusa's where she was only thinking about boobs. Is that supposed to be metaphorical? Seriously, I'm just watching the show because it's a trainwreck, don't understand the people who actually like it or think it's anything close than "good". Well, you can always create yet another "Am I the only one..." thread and get over with it. :P The irony is that Okada clearly makes it clear that pedophilia is a traumatic shit, and teenage attraction to a mature person is problematic, but people in fandom as usual do not want to think :). Pino-chan said: iTitania_ said: Am I the only one who's disgusted by the anime? All I hear is praise but I can't agree at all, the overall premise is nothing more than tasteless and even normalizes taboos like that one teacher-student relationship and pedophilia. How can people find this show appealing, let alone "relatable"? Plus the character's behaviour are absolutely ridiculous like Kazusa's where she was only thinking about boobs. Is that supposed to be metaphorical? Seriously, I'm just watching the show because it's a trainwreck, don't understand the people who actually like it or think it's anything close than "good". How is it normalizing taboos? The drama teacher is referred to in the show as “disgusting”, Hongou falling for her teacher is something that happens in real life. If you haven’t noticed, this is an anime about girls entering adulthood and everything that comes with it, romance and sex. You seeing it as disgusting is your own dirty mind. Because people don't want to think, and as my experience shows, they don't critically understand the context even when it is thrown into their faces. Not to mention the strange tendency of extreme moralism among modern youth. |
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Given that the whole Kuzu is almost a festival of agnsty characters with unrequited love, whose character development takes place exclusively through agnsty sexual scenes with a minimal representation of any other psychological experience? |
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RobertBobert said: Given that the whole Kuzu is almost a festival of agnsty characters with unrequited love, whose character development takes place exclusively through agnsty sexual scenes with a minimal representation of any other psychological experience? You still have not given me an example of a scene that is written in a manner that doesn't make it genuine or believable. |
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Hatsuyuki said: RobertBobert said: Given that the whole Kuzu is almost a festival of agnsty characters with unrequited love, whose character development takes place exclusively through agnsty sexual scenes with a minimal representation of any other psychological experience? You still have not given me an example of a scene that is written in a manner that doesn't make it genuine or believable. Our dialogue sounds like "Hitler maniac - Prove it! - He organized the Holocaust! - Please, a specific case!" Okay. Do you think the whole Sanae x Hanabi subplot is well written and not panding to male sexual fantasies about agnsty lesbians? Not to mention the fact that all this time Hanabi remained formally heterosexual (lol), that is, her consent to sex with Sanae occurs solely to justify the addition of yuri sex scenes without an actual lesbian relationship. |
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RobertBobert said: Hatsuyuki said: You still have not given me an example of a scene that is written in a manner that doesn't make it genuine or believable. Our dialogue sounds like "Hitler maniac - Prove it! - He organized the Holocaust! - Please, a specific case!" Okay. Do you think the whole Sanae x Hanabi subplot is well written and not panding to male sexual fantasies about agnsty lesbians? Not to mention the fact that all this time Hanabi remained formally heterosexual (lol), that is, her consent to sex with Sanae occurs solely to justify the addition of yuri sex scenes without an actual lesbian relationship. So any sort of representation of a lesbian relationship in anime is obviously a poor attempt at pandering. That's what makes it not believable. Okay then. |
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Hatsuyuki said: RobertBobert said: Our dialogue sounds like "Hitler maniac - Prove it! - He organized the Holocaust! - Please, a specific case!" Okay. Do you think the whole Sanae x Hanabi subplot is well written and not panding to male sexual fantasies about agnsty lesbians? Not to mention the fact that all this time Hanabi remained formally heterosexual (lol), that is, her consent to sex with Sanae occurs solely to justify the addition of yuri sex scenes without an actual lesbian relationship. So any sort of representation of a lesbian relationship in anime is obviously a poor attempt at pandering. That's what makes it not believable. Okay then. Ahahaha. This is not even funny. So, as I understand from your answer, you have nothing to say in return? |
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RobertBobert said: so you think because it's portrayed in anime people will think it's a ok? do you also think violent video games create serial killers??shanimebib said: Well, you can always create yet another "Am I the only one..." thread and get over with it. :P The irony is that Okada clearly makes it clear that pedophilia is a traumatic shit, and teenage attraction to a mature person is problematic, but people in fandom as usual do not want to think :). Pino-chan said: How is it normalizing taboos? The drama teacher is referred to in the show as “disgusting”, Hongou falling for her teacher is something that happens in real life. If you haven’t noticed, this is an anime about girls entering adulthood and everything that comes with it, romance and sex. You seeing it as disgusting is your own dirty mind. Because people don't want to think, and as my experience shows, they don't critically understand the context even when it is thrown into their faces. Not to mention the strange tendency of extreme moralism among modern youth. |
Pino-chanAug 17, 2019 7:46 PM
| Every week something infuriates me. And every week I watch it. I really despise Hongo. I feel sorry for Amagi. Sonezaki is gonna learn a hard lesson. They really could've left the pedo out. Ponytails (forget her name) seems to be realizing she's gay or bi. |
| @Pino-chan What? What do you mean by that, lol? |
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| Niina kissed the old man? I really don't know why they take the focus off the scene |
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 I am seriously concerned about people who think this anime normalizes taboos There are no panty shots, no explicit nudes (the baths scene were all censored by steam), the drama teacher is referred to as "disgusting", the kiss between Niina and him and was not show on screen and all his scenes are shown with creepy music and dark colors, obviously hinting him as a bad person, Milo knows a relationship with a minor would get him arrested and is clearly interested in his co-worker. You have to be blind or dumb to not understand or care about the context, maybe you thought this series was another light hearted romcom: it's not, it's about girls growing up and leaving their innocence behind, and there's nothing more normal than that. |
PurpleMario said: absolutely agree! glad to know there's people who can understand contextiTitania_ said: lol wut? The anime is all about dirtiness, it's definitely not my "dirty mind". It isn't called Savage Maidens for nothing, don't be fooled by the cute character design. Of course it's normalizing taboos, even romanticizes them since both characters (Niina and Hongou) see nothing wrong about their relationship with that pedo geezer and the teacher even though they should clearly know it's wrong. Hongou is even sexually harassing the teacher but he's just standing there, doing nothing, like he's enjoying it (like where he was giggling when he was pretending to kiss Hongou). Plus he still writes with her on social media about all those dirty fantasies like what panties will turn him on etc. A teacher is supposed to step back and to tell their students that it's wrong to sit on their lap and demand sex or to not show them their panties but he doesn't care at all. And about Niina: That sums it pretty much up. She doesn't even realize that she's emotionally broken, still visits him and even kisses him. He's like 40 and she's 16 but both are completely fine with this situation. So... which part DOESN'T normalizes all these taboos? I guess you are missunderstanding the truth of the relations between Hongou-Milo and Niina-Saegusa. Sure, the girls are "in love" with them, with them being adults who should clearly reject them, but thats exactly what Milo did at the beggining, telling Hongou that he is not interested in her (or any school girl), then, why do they have this "weird" relationship? Because this is his way of teaching her about love, sex, and interpersonals relations, and it will help her in her writing career. What about Niina and Saegusa? Thats even easier. You think it is "normalizing" a taboo relation? It is not, it is clearly not, it is obviously trying to make us uncomfortable seeing that (at least for me, that last scene, or every other one with him on it, makes me feel terrible), because he is a bad, a very bad, an almost criminaly bad influence for her, but adolescent getting in love with teachers is something that, believe it or not, happens (and yeah, adolescents tends to be more emotional than rational). If he was a good responsible adult he will reject her and leave her alone, but he is "the bad guy", so fuck it. |
| this anime take light of serious things like pedophiles and the teacher and student relationship but still enjoyable |
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| The arty literature student's show. Not as daring as art projects would be but daring for an anime, sure Weekly reminder that Sonezaki is bloody annoying. |
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