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| Eh, probably my least favourite episode so far actually. The whole bully thing just doesn't appeal to me at all, and the majority of this episode didn't even focus on Fumika save for 2 or 3 minutes max. It provides a message that shouldn't be ignored of course and not one to be taken lightly, but for me just not something I enjoy watching, especially how every peripheral character in the episode just went along with it; that kind of reaction is just sickening. |
| This was just amazing! Really great way to show how bullying is affecting the bullied one's mind... I can honestly say it gave me shivers (one of the best episodes of any anime I've seen). Ben said: Eh, probably my least favourite episode so far actually. The whole bully thing just doesn't appeal to me at all, and the majority of this episode didn't even focus on Fumika save for 2 or 3 minutes max. It provides a message that shouldn't be ignored of course and not one to be taken lightly, but for me just not something I enjoy watching, especially how every peripheral character in the episode just went along with it; that kind of reaction is just sickening. Yes... it is sickening... but some people may not know that this is sometimes the case. Because if you try to help him, you're like his friend, what would mean that they will bully you as well, and everybody's affraid that he/she's going to be the only one trying to help. Cause usually you have only few 'true' bullies... the rest is just 'going with the flow' (some people may not even realize how tough it is... just like the main character of the story... I don't know how tough it really is, but at least I'm trying to think about it). |
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| Karma hurts doesn't it, I really don't have any sympathy towards the victims who gets bullied in this episode because there were also the bully, it's a cycle anyways... -_- |
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Sobzob said: It could give troubled kids bad ideas quite the opposite (not a bad idea), kids being bullied should just stand up and kill the bullies |
KotoriApr 9, 2008 12:06 AM
Miss_Golightly said: Interesting thought in regards to die socially, but live on as an animal. I think it was also a reference to the fact that once you've been investigated by the police your chances/options for employment narrow drastically due to the stigma, which is even more prevelant in Japan. |
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| Right, well, I get the feeling you guys are from a completely different world, because I just watched that episode and came out of it pissed off at how incredibly WRONG it is. I don't know what country you guys are from - but high school bullies are NOT like that on this planet - and neither are the morons getting bullied. Honestly this episode has almost destroyed all my faith in this series from pure irritation... How incredibly idiotic it is. Yes, sure, high school bullies accidentally push people over the edge, but from experience and COMMON BLOODY SENSE they don't do the same thing to the next person like a fucking murderous cult. Not to mention - if the moron being bullied is pushed into a corner where he knows he's going to die, why in the nine hells would he play along with the bullies when he saviour shows up? WHAT. THE. FUCK. Yeah, incase you haven't gotten the point, this episode pissed me off. A lot. |
| First off the episode was great, I enjoy how it portrayed bulling that while it is an extreme case seem very realistic. this is my story |
| With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. Steven Weinberg |
| i really hate bullying.. |
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| very well done episode. loved how they portrayed bullying with survival of the fittest. even though I thought that they overdid it with the bullying b/c I never could have imagine that bullying would get to that high level, still cant... anyway, need more fumika *o* I was surprised that it was the same school, I didnt think they would use the same setting (like shinigami no ballad) anyway, since we are all sharing, I will too ^^ my friends and I were bullied, mostly my friend because of her accent, by 3 bitches :P (2 girls, 1 boy) they threw little rocks at us, made fun, etc etc etc. so, one day I got fed up, and I started yelling at the guy, etc, and we were cool with each other before that. cant really remember if they stopped bothering us... my point is: GOSH IT FELT GOOD to stand up for myself, back then I was quiet b/c I didnt speak much english, but now that I know how to speak english (not perfectly, but hey, do you know how to speak spanish? xD) and Im more up-front, I sooo want to go back and get into a fight with those 3 >w< |
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| Great episode, I pretty much understand why they decided to remove it. It could give troubled kids bad ideas, though that's just like any other show. It was a shame that we didn't get as much Fumika this time. =( Looking forward to the next episode~ |
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| A truly amazing episode. I feel sick after watching it the bullying scenes made my chest hurt I'm both sad and angry at guy who betrayed the other guy because of him the other guy who begged for forgiveness took his own life but he know he is the scape goat and he truly understands the other guys pain and he may go to prison but this shows he was at least stronger than the other even though he looked as though he had gine crazy at the end. A very very moving episode this has affected me greatly. |
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| Fumika's last comment was gold. Wow, those people wouldn't fight... When you get picked on, you have to retaliate no matter how strong the other guy(s) is. I heard that Japanese have pretty serious case of bullying in their country, I can only pray that it's not this big(something tells me that some cases were). If it is, I can only hope that those who are bullied will become stronger and retaliate. Or at least have the courage to tell the teachers, or do something about their bullying instead of suicide or murder or looking for help online (Which never works). My bully experience. my friend's bully experience. Moral of the story is, Bullies are just a bunch of losers who pick on who they think is weak. But the truth is, they are a lot weaker. FIGHT BACK! My favorite episode so far. This series have been awesome ^_^ |
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| Meh episode. Funny scream though. |
| Oh boy, a School bullying episode. The thought of someone that won't stand for himself, against a group of ''bullies'', and have a daily pathetic experience by the expenses of the before mentioned group, is infuriating. Even more infuriating than the bullying itself. Come on, your fellow classmates don't give a crap about you anyways. They laugh when this kind of stuff happens to you. Why don't accuse the guys?, or, Why don't put them in their places? They are using your backpack as a thrash can. And you're waiting for someone to help you?. I guess this is one clear example of ''LOLJapan'' |
| Maybe bullying is worse in Japan? I don't remember anyone getting it nearly as bad back in high school. And everything seems to happen at the one school in this show, kinda funny I guess. At any rate, this series is decent. The first two episodes were really, really good. But after that it's just been a slow deceleration for me. Hopefully I don't grow bored by the end. |
| I felt an uneasiness inside me when watching him get bullied. He did had an option to fight back or get help from an adult. With that being said, great episode, probably my favorite so far. It took bullying and brought it up to a new level. |
| A great episode with a good message which I much appreciated. I was never bullied in all my years of stay in school but I believe the bullying portrayed in this episode is realistic if not have a grain of truth on it. Due to different circumstances, it doesn't help that some part of the education systems, and even peers of the bullied turn a blind eye on it which reinforce the vicious cycle as seen on this episode. Seven minutes into the episode when he refused to help Kikukawa and was trying to get under the bullies' s radar, I knew this would end badly, either a suicide or a school rampage. I regretted being right on both accounts near the end of the episode. Miss_Golightly said: Interesting thought in regards to die socially, but live on as an animal. An interesting thought indeed, Fumika said it well at the end. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| Hm... he was going to die if he went through with that stupid game (survival of the fittest), so in way... it was warranted. I thought he jumped the gun a bit too quickly though, he should've just swung the screwdriver (I think that's what it was) around and get the fuck out of there, but if they try to stop him and provokes him, then whatever, just fkin kill them, they deserve it. LOL |
funkotakuMay 21, 2012 12:56 AM
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| This show went from a fascinating thriller on sending afterlife messages to an anti-bully program. I'm in full support of anti-bullying, but it seems like this is totally out of place. CallistoRey said: Oh boy, a School bullying episode. The thought of someone that won't stand for himself, against a group of ''bullies'', and have a daily pathetic experience by the expenses of the before mentioned group, is infuriating. Even more infuriating than the bullying itself. ' My thoughts exactly. Everyone has been faced with some type of bullying, but how you approach the situation will affect the severity of it in my opinion. In that school setting, there were adults everywhere that you can just explain your problem, but apparently that never even occurred to the characters. I know this is just fiction, but to see someone act so frustratingly helpless really makes me facepalm. |
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| wow is this really realistic? does this really accurately represent how bullying is in Japan? I mean i thought my old school was hardcore, people dealin drugs, bringing knives, people beating the everloving shit out of each other, smokin pot, drinking, 2 guards patrolling the school all day long, and all kind of other crazy shit. The only bullying that some people had to endure were like 3-5 witty insults/ jokes per day and occasionaly getting laughed at (but a few teachers had it hard thou) oh well i really enjoyed this episode. |
| I really loved the distinction between living socially and as an animal. 4/5. The episodes makes me realize how lucky I was for having a school where bullying was almost non-existent. |
| The bullied ppl couldn't even get an adult to help them out? 5/10 |
| They're essentially murderers at this point, they've already killed one person and he was their next target. Let's get real here, those teachers aren't paying attention and aren't of any help at all, and his peers certainly aren't going to step in and save anyone. Most would probably say it's too extreme, but if I was put into that situation where I'm literally about to be killed and I know for a fact that others have already been through that hell and ended up dead as a result of their bullying, I wouldn't spare any mercy, I would have chased the other two down in a blind rage. EDIT: However, now that I've started thinking about it, if I just so happened to be a child circus tightrope-walking prodigy of some kind, I'd agree to play their game and casually walk across the beam to the other side while blindfolded. I'd even tell them it was great fun and ask to go again. _ |
LarasoJun 16, 2014 1:12 AM
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| Sometimes I wonder if the depiction of school bullying and the lack of concern and negligence by the adults involved is just an exaggeration or does this really happen in Japan? I know bullying happens all over the world but damn that kind of bullying would never happen in my school (or at least when I was still in high school). Nobody would take that kind of shit from anyone and also, nobody would tolerate someone treating a classmate like that. There's always someone who says "enough!" |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
xchee said: Sometimes I wonder if the depiction of school bullying and the lack of concern and negligence by the adults involved is just an exaggeration or does this really happen in Japan? I know bullying happens all over the world but damn that kind of bullying would never happen in my school (or at least when I was still in high school). Nobody would take that kind of shit from anyone and also, nobody would tolerate someone treating a classmate like that. There's always someone who says "enough!" I wonder the same and I agree with you... That is a messed up school! What pisses me off the most it's that the teacher knew it and didn't do a thing, also the student could have asked for some help no?! Btw, I don't know why some people said this anime sucked until here it is actually pretty good. |
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| Bullying is the worse kind of thing to do! Those who doing it are worthless scums. |
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| Well that sure was a whole different take on bullying! Didn't expect this kind of concept directly in this anime but I liked it! |
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| Wow, what an episode. This one was really full of sadness and despair. |
| Every time I read about bullying in manga, I always wonder if that sort of thing really happens in Japan, but at the same time, I believe it probably does, given that most likely a lot of things written have been experienced or observed either first or second-hand by the author. And I'm certainly not going to be skeptical after reading through every post here, especially the ones which account their own bullying experiences. The school and the classmates are certainly apathetic, all of them participating in the bullying by turning a blind eye and actually doing what the bullies say, to put trash in the bullied one's book bag. It's totally a different thing when the whole class participates one way or another, even laughing when the Kikugawa didn't have his pants or underwear on in class. What the actual fuck. Teachers not knowing though I think is believable (although yeah no way he didn't see that Kikugawa didn't have pants on), at a school like that where it seems like the adults care more about appearances, the teacher probably notices nothing. It's hard to help out someone though, people certainly rather not be in the center of attention when helping out. That wasn't Morishita's problem though, he pretty much didn't care or understand what Kikugawa went through, until he was in the same position. Both Kikugawa and Morishita were quite apathetic people though...Kikugawa saying he did nothing wrong, he's normal and used to BULLY OTHERS too, and Morishita thinking that Kikugawa didn't understand how things are supposed to be. I think that maybe aside from the bullying issue, this episode was showing the state of mind of lots of people in society today, I've heard of horror stories of problem children in Japan from English-speaking teacher assistants, and how some teachers don't do anything about it. Some people here were successful in warding off their bullies, thank goodness, and as much as I wanted to scream at the two for not doing anything, I know that if I were in their position, I would probably do nothing and try to endure as well. That's what I did whenever someone bothered me, but I'd never say it was bullying, although close to it I guess (nothing as intense as what others have gone through). And luckily they weren't really traditional bullies and were just seeking amusement from my reactions. But anyways, never be skeptical about how intense bullying can get, chances are, somewhere out there, someone has suffered the same. I've never heard of someone being poked by a compass, but there were two(?) here that said it had happened to them. Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I remember when a classmate of mine told me someone in the school threatened him with a knife to give him all his money he had on him, and I was really shocked because the high school I attended had a lot wealthy kids so I didn't expect that kind of thing to have happened there. Luckily my classmate said he resolved in by self defense. Wow I rambled a lot... |
billybob300c said: The bullied ppl couldn't even get an adult to help them out? Ha. Whenever I was being bullied, my teachers feigned ignorance. They’d notice what was happening, and then look away. I guess they didn't how to act in such situations, or it was too troublesome for them. |
| Nice Episode. Picking up an issue like bullying is commendable. Bullies are nothing but losers who seek attention. |
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| I actually liked this episode, even though it was extreme and over the top, I mean these guys literally killed a class mate and didn't give a shit and not just them everybody else too. This episode wanted to show us how cruel mobbing can get it's an anime with supernatural elements, therefore I don't care much about realism (well actualy there were even worse cases in rl)in this case even if it could've been handled a little more subtile. |
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| Loved this episode, one of my favorite so far. And it seriously gave me a Hell Girl vibe. If the rest of the anime keeps the quality displayed on this episode, I can consider giving it a pretty good rating. The cycle of bullying and hatred never stops, this episode displays that really well. It's a shame he didn't help the guy suffering from bullying, but if he did he'd only be another victim, but at least they'd be together in it. Instead, he decided to be a coward and participate in the bullying as well. I liked how he snapped in the end tho. |
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| It is really sad the argument dealt with in this episode, but in the future this "bad habit" must be eliminated with exemplary punishments. Finally, the main story is about to begin, Yay! Wow, Fumika put his hands like a blacksmith. |
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| Bullying, peaceful.. Hmmm I don't think those words aren't suitable for each other It's not hard to deal with bullying, the only problem is to stand up and bravery I've dealt with it poorly, wish I can redo that. To show bully, they can't even stand alone without their "friends", so they're weaker Yea serve him right Aww the bully didn't die, that sucks It sucks especially doesn't matter how many bully gone it'll never go fully extinct |
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| Things like this ep piss me off, especially knowing how useless school can be when handling cases of bullying (especially in Japan). They always underestimate or overlook how severe the problem actual is. No wonder the suicide rates in japan are so high. Part of me wanted to scream fight back to Morishita, but if he failed they certainly would have double down on him. People all have a boiling point and when it explodes in lethal danger can you really blame the victim? I've never was bullied in school but it not hard to sympathize with those that have and feel lack of empathy for the bullies that end up getting what they deserve. |
| I've seen a number of similar depressing episodes but idk this really stuck to me. The episode was hard to finish. I felt like killing somebody the whole time |
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| Setting aside how painstaking it was to watch the circle of life bullying, I really like how this series presents new, episodic scenarios while still giving it a sense of continuity. The guy investigating Fumika was only an outside observer this time around, but his friend's suicide in episode 3 gave his brief insight more weight into the death of Kikukawa. |
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| The episodes without Fumika being the center of attention are definitely the best. Seeing stories of humans and death is way better than “loli girl tries to deliver letter”. |
| Damn, this episode hit home. The anger i felt throughout the episode was personal and makes me wish I could have reacted when I was also bullied. Even though he deserved it because he didn't help enough the way he fought back made me roar inside and say fuck yeah |
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