TheNaturalPerm said: the only anime that comes to mind is "SSJMaster vs. Xinil - A story of epic battles!" the ending was beautiful I cried every episode. |
| No, it must have the most tragic and gruesome ending possible, unless the whole cast is slaughtered and the world explodes, it'll get a score 9 at most from me if the story is as good as possible. |
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Litrydow said: No, it must have the most tragic and gruesome ending possible, unless the whole cast is slaughtered and the world explodes, it'll get a score 9 at most from me if the story is as good as possible. That wont be happening in attack on titan. Thank god!!! |
| Yes. |
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JizzyHitler said: sedmelluq said: molester man(dont let the name fool you im being dead serious when i praise the series) doesnt even deal with any form of tragedy nor mention death and its still a 10/10 for meRockinAnime said: Most animes that are considered a masterpiece ended in death. The death endings almost always make for the best endings. No. There are plenty of masterpieces which don't even deal with life-or-death situations. tragedy can do wonders when done right, but that doesnt make it a necessary conclusion But that's a manga. I agree the series is amazing though |
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| If an anime with a happy ending can't be considered a masterpiece, then certainly the famous of the non-anime media such as novels, games, movies, whatever else you think of can't be considered a masterpiece either. The series within is how said series will end up being a masterpiece. Novody's going to wait for the final episode to be released to claim it is a masterpiece. |
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| jesus fucking christ people i almost had a Nodame induced heart attack DON'T DO THAT!!! *runs off to search for my goddamn sanity* |
TallonKarrde23 said: I think you forgot the part where you mention your opinion is worth more than others.Miraclezify said: TallonKarrde23 said: Miraclezify said: I consider Welcome to the NHK a masterpiece and it indeed does have a happy ending. Then again, many also don't consider NHK a masterpiece. >happy ending I really wish people who watched that godawful anime adaptations stopped pretending it's anything but shit. It's not just 'missing stuff' or 'a bad adaptation' - it's a completely different fucking story aside like 10% of it, the same goes for the cast, and it's terrible that it shares the same title. Go read the book. I really wish we lived in a world where we could have opinions. Oh wait! I don't care if it's different from the source material, it was done well. And "pretending"? No, I whole heartedly love the show. I don't see what's wrong with having a different story from the source, especially when it's done really well. It was done like shit, even as a stand-alone series. |
| y'all need to shut the fuck up. |
| It is up to you to consider an anime a Masterpiece or not. Something that I feel is a Masterpiece might just be good or great to you. I am sure there are quite a lot of anime with happy endings that people consider them to be a masterpiece. |
| Some shows would make absolutely no sense with a happy ending, but other shows would make no sense with a sad ending. The best part about a masterpiece is that it does not confine to a template. |
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JimmuGohan said: This thought just came to my mind after just finishing Bebop. I have to admit, it was nearly as good as everybody praises it for, but in my personal opinion, the ending disappointed me. If it had an happier, less perfect ending, could it still be a masterpiece? Also most of the time when I hear about an anime being a masterpiece, the MC usually dies. Is this the curse of a good anime? Huh? Sounds somewhat backwards to me. I wouldn't give many things that didn't end in a somewhat positive manner a masterpiece rating. I have only 6 titles I rated masterpiece that I thought were also depressing out of total of 74 things I rated a 10. |
KruszerMar 9, 2014 2:48 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97"  |
Kruszer said: JimmuGohan said: This thought just came to my mind after just finishing Bebop. I have to admit, it was nearly as good as everybody praises it for, but in my personal opinion, the ending disappointed me. If it had an happier, less perfect ending, could it still be a masterpiece? Also most of the time when I hear about an anime being a masterpiece, the MC usually dies. Is this the curse of a good anime? HuH? Sounds somewhat backwards to me. I wouldn't give many things that didn't end in a somewhat positive manner a masterpiece rating. I've never understood that obsession with unhappy endings. It doesn't make something more meaningful if everyone dies at the end - I think people are too quick to project their own unhappiness on everything else. |
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Feyfray said: Kruszer said: JimmuGohan said: This thought just came to my mind after just finishing Bebop. I have to admit, it was nearly as good as everybody praises it for, but in my personal opinion, the ending disappointed me. If it had an happier, less perfect ending, could it still be a masterpiece? Also most of the time when I hear about an anime being a masterpiece, the MC usually dies. Is this the curse of a good anime? HuH? Sounds somewhat backwards to me. I wouldn't give many things that didn't end in a somewhat positive manner a masterpiece rating. I've never understood that obsession with unhappy endings. It doesn't make something more meaningful if everyone dies at the end - I think people are too quick to project their own unhappiness on everything else. Agreed. You don't need to send your audience into a state of depression to create a little depth and meaningfulness. |
KruszerMar 9, 2014 2:26 PM
| "The name's Gambit. Remember it." -Gambit "X-Men '97" |
| To me, the best anime I have ever watched is Clannad. Clannad was a masterpiece with a happy ending. However it did seem like it would end with death and despair, it turned out happy as a result of the lessons learned by the characters. One of my other favorite masterpieces is Death Note. This does end in death and tragedy. My top 3 masterpiece shows all involve tragedy and death, but there are happy endings in masterpieces. I would also tend to agree with the user above that it's not a requirement to make people sad to achieve a meaningful work, however it seems that it's the most popular route to go. I think this simply means that it is so much easier to create sad emotions than happy emotions. Any author can be judged on one account by how well he/she is able to connect emotionally with the audience, and how strong the emotions are felt by readers or viewers. to reproduce a state of happiness vicariously is extremely difficult, because happiness is almost exclusively achieved through personal action. That being said, I certainly was overjoyed when |
| yeah sure, a few of my 10s have happy endings |
| I don't see why not. That being said, I still tend to gravitate to more sad/depressing/mind fuck endings. |
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| It's thoroughly understandable why someone would think that way. Sadly impacting endings usually leave a deeper mark on people, like those who love Clannad because of its known bittersweetly depressive atmosphere and narrative. However, a masterpiece is a masterpiece and happy endings at times can only uplift you, making an ending even more satisfying. |
TheNaturalPerm said: the only anime that comes to mind is "SSJMaster vs. Xinil - A story of epic battles!" the ending was beautiful That anime was the greatest thing ever. It was so well-written, it had everything you would want and more. Sadly, it has left the minds of most people so it will be left as a relic of the past. OT: A happy ending doesn't make something less of a "masterpiece" as one with a sad ending, but the more depressing/soul-crushing/sad endings are easier to remember (for me personally). AstronomyDomine said: It's thoroughly understandable why someone would think that way. Sadly impacting endings usually leave a deeper mark on people, like those who love Clannad because of its known bittersweetly depressive atmosphere and narrative. However, a masterpiece is a masterpiece and happy endings at times can only uplift you, making an ending even more satisfying. ... which was, in my opinion, ruined by it's ending for that very reason. |
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| Of course it can.. |
| In my opinion, yes. I don't really like tragic endings anyways. |
| None of my 10's have happy endings |
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| Edgy ≠ good. |
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Red_Keys said: Edgy ≠ good. But edgy = mature = best. |
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SolviteSekai said: Is this thread really happening? Yes it can. Only immature teenagers think anime has to be bleak and dreary OR some kind of social/political statement to be enjoyable. We should all learn to unclench our buttholes and enjoy life every now and then. this |
| Anime>Breaking bad. |
JimmuGohan said: This thread is just for discussion, I hate animes with unpleasant endings but in the general public I feel like those animes are considered master pieces more so than happier endings. That's not really true, at least to me. It's just that there are more reactions to bad endings mostly because people are shocked and have to cry it out everywhere, so a serie gets known for an 'infamous ending'. However, in terms of success, I think that either bad or good ending have their masterpieces. I guess I could compare it to the news : everyone will take about this one terrible murder, but not about this guy who fight for humans rights. |
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| It's no good unless it's dark, angsty, and brooding to appeal to my teenage emotions! |
| how i r8 1- crpy animee no gud 10- gud aniem, dep plot, lots of cute grls |
| Probably the only reason people associate "death" with "masterpiece" is because it leaves a big impact. Your left with a scar, so to speak. |
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| Trick question. There are no anime without death, because we are all dying on the inside. *poetry snap snap snap* |
| y'all need to shut the fuck up. |
| Happy endings are often seen in the wrong light because they're the common and more predictable path. Also happily ever after is often forced and feels fake in stories. Not to say tragic stories can't, but happy ones often do much more. For example, bringing a character back from the dead without offering any reasoning or cause and effect in order to keep otaku from committing suicide make everyone feel good about themselves. Kara no Kyoukai I'm looking at you |
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| It doesn't matter tbh. If the ending gives a proper closure to the series, plus other factors, it can be a masterpiece |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
JimmuGohan said: This thought just came to my mind after just finishing Bebop. I have to admit, it was nearly as good as everybody praises it for, but in my personal opinion, the ending disappointed me. If it had an happier, less perfect ending, could it still be a masterpiece? Also most of the time when I hear about an anime being a masterpiece, the MC usually dies. Is this the curse of a good anime? The MC in School Days dies at the end which means School Days is a masterpiece, i think i understand now. |
| P DOPE. |
TallonKarrde23 said: #TeamYunoRed_Keys said: Edgy ≠ good. But edgy = mature = best. |
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| Sure it can be! |
| It doesn't need to end with death, despair and blood for the blood god. Aria the Origination has a happy end and I consider it a masterpiece ;) I do enjoy seeing a bitter-sweet ending too. One that is happy, but comes at a cost. No perfect happily lived ever after fairy tale type ending. |
| For those who seek perfection, there can be no rest on this side of the grave. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. |
| Impossible. |
| Shawshank redmption nuff said. Granted it isn't an anime but it still has a happy ending and it is a masterpiece |
| Just because you know how to use a torrent does not give you the god given right to pirate. My actual list: https://kitsu.io/users/mattbenz99/library check out my youtube channel for my review: https://www.youtube.com/user/mattbenz99 |
Forgetfulness said: mayukachan said: So who won in the end? I haven't had the chance to finish itTheNaturalPerm said: I cried every episode.the only anime that comes to mind is "SSJMaster vs. Xinil - A story of epic battles!" the ending was beautiful I think someone spoiled it for me and said that If so...damn. Such a sad ending, but that's what makes it a masterpiece Try posting an image. |
| Yes. and why the fuck not ? Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood speaks into the mic. |
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