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| Finally Subaru faced Sattela and reached his hand for her. I keep thinking Otto is not a normal character his timing is almost perfect, hoping for a hidden potential. Rosswal turned out to be freaky than ever that bastard put a hit on Petra and blondy maid and the villagers... The witch tea party has to be my fav part of the whole arc, and I'm glad Echidna is not that evil and shared some useful info to Subaru but she still was upset with Subaru and taken back his qualification rights. Can't wait for next season I might even start the LN if I can and if they are translated. |
MABfan11 said: i recommend everyone to read this article: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/this-week-in-anime/2020-10-20/.165409 people have been (unreasonably) complaining that he got over his depression quickly in episode 18, when season 2 reveals that he's only taken baby steps to fix his depression and self-loathing Thank you, tired of seeing people not understanding his character and ragging on it just for the sake of ragging on it |
Rob7 said: That's it, Anime-Onlies, we've reach the end of this half. But i have a strong advice. DO NOT spoil it to yourself by reading the novels Checking threads about novel ranking, 9 in 10 readers put the arc 4 as being the BEST arc so far. We are watching what for most is the best moment of the series (not saying that the rest is bad), and the climax is right there starting in Jan/2021. So don't spoil it. I'll listen to your advice, just one thing I need to know. The source material/novel is done already? |
NameLessMofo said: Nope, it's still ongoing. So far 24 volumes and counting.I'll listen to your advice, just one thing I need to know. The source material/novel is done already? |
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mozgow said: NameLessMofo said: Nope, it's still ongoing. So far 24 volumes and counting.I'll listen to your advice, just one thing I need to know. The source material/novel is done already? ok, thank you. if it was done I'd just read it and finish the series, since it's not I'll just wait like everyone else. |
HarunoAarex said: but I think I will wait for another season first.. The season isn't finished... It's just split cour. The second half is coming this winter. |
| What the! There's no way I'm going to remember the flow of this story when the next episode comes up; which takes a few months from now. Well...there's probably a recap fo sho. I'll keep my fingers crossed because I just can't bear to watch 13 episodes all over again. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
LilBoOfficial said: This is only half the season, so it shouldn't be a surprise that some mysteries are not resolved yet. But you shouldn't be confused by 90% of the content from this season.Am I the only one who can't comprehend like 90% of what happened this season. I don't know if I'm supposed to be confused or not lmao. If you ask more detailed questions then maybe I and other people watching this thread can clear things for you? |
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| I guess I'm in the minority since I didn't like this cour as much. They really expanded on the story and characters which was great, but other than that Subaru really got on my nerves with all of his breakdowns. Hoping the conclusion lives up to all the hype people are building here. Stormen said: Subaru needs development and that's fucking quick. We already went through his insecurities and craziness in the first season and now the writer hits us over the head with the same stick again. And all this overdramatizing is obnoxious. Let's hope someone gives him intelligence 100+ next cour, because his stupidity and inability to follow a conversation is second to none. This is exactly what I felt was the worst part of this season. He got over his mental breakdown and made some grand speech about how his resolve is unbreakable now and then goes on and breaks down again with his next death. Rinse and repeat. |
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| I actually love Roswaal. Dude's an absolute lunatic. Poor Subaru tho. Imagine knowing someone indispensable to you and the people around you, who pretty much lives to ruin your life, not because he has anything against you, but because he wholeheartedly believes in you lmao Otto proving once again who is truly best girl. This season was damn good. I'm hyped for the 2nd part! |
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MegamiRem said: Satella did say Subaru did so much for her.What an episode to end this cour with, specially that last conversation with Roswaal was nothing but true despair. Wow so Satella wants to die by Subaru's hand and I wonder why is she so concerned with Subaru's well being and for that matter why does she love him so much to begin with. Is Satella's true identity Emillia from the future? Considering how she gave Subaru a power that makes him go back in time I wouldn't be surprised if she really was Emilia from future. Now where should I even start, damn what an epic season this has been. Lots of new characters were introduced and we finally saw all the witches. Echidna was off the charts, I love her character so much. I'm really intrigued with all the witches as they were far from what I imagined them to be. So I hope we get to see more of their characters in the upcoming cour or in future arcs. 10/10 from me. |
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PendragonX1 said: Subaru bit his tongue and choked on the blood.The episode starts with Subaru breaking into a million pieces again as usual at this point.  My question is how did he actually kill himself here their nothing that he did before to prepare to do it and it suddenly happens. I am assuming he did something in the LN but here he literally falls to the ground dead and IDK why. We got Roswall being Roswall and stating he cannot save both because he must choose. Kind of wonder if that's true but most likely not he can prob save both just has to do a longer path. The heavy foreshadowing is real. The question is does it really mean Emilia or just Satella. Otto punching Subaru back into reality at the end was the icing on the cake for this episode and a good way to end this first half. Overall I liked this first half I know we haven't advanced the actual story since like ep 1 but we continue to learn more about this world slowly and all the elements that are in it. Maybe in the second half, we can get out of the Sanctuary... Maybe I don't want to leave maybe I like it here Mod Edit: Only one screenshot allowed. |
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| Although I was confused most of the time and still have questions, this season was enjoyable to watch. I wish this season didn't end on a cliffhanger :( Also, Otto is one of the best characters! (I am a little suspicious of him tho.) |
yura_marinette said: I wish this season didn't end on a cliffhanger :( But the season isn't finished! Its second half starts airing this winter. |
| I WAS KIDDING WHEN I SAID I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE OTTO BE MESSED UP TOO, WHAT IS GOING ON ?! I can't even trust my son... For the rest, so far I'm really liking the portrayal of Echidna and Roswaal, two very interesting characters fighting for the first spot along with Beatrice (who despite my complaints is still better written than the majority of the cast). I'm very intrigued to see how this will play out in the next court. I also quite like what we've seen of Satella, though finding out she also wants to die makes me quite annoyed because well, the show is starting to become very very edgy, and it already was in the first season but here that's on another level. For the rest, what can I say that I dodn't already say... First, I'm a bit disappointed by the way the witches other than Echidna and Satella are portrayed. They feel more than comic relief than anything when they had the potential to be great characters. I still like Daphne though, she's fun. And another thing that I already said but I'll say it again : PLEASE GIVE SUBARU SOME REAL DEVELOPMENT. Because okay he hates himself, he's in pain, etc, etc, we know that, and it was supposed to have been partially solved in s1 ep18, so I'm really starting to give up on him now, it's really always the same thing, I don't manage to feel anything for him anymore, yes in a way his writing is realistic but maybe making him the protagonist wasn't that much of a good idea. Plus, honestly he isn't even very well-written, actually he is badly-written considering how practically all his development from season 1 has disappeared. I have a feeling the author doesn't know how to handle him, he wants him to be two things at once and it of course cannot work. And wow I felt such a satisfaction when the witches called Subaru out for being too self-centered with his suffering, and then it turns out they're trying to help him ?! No, no, nononono he doesn't deserve that. I'm all for even the most messed up characters being deserveful of a second chance if it's well-written but Subaru didn't just have a second chance, he had over 1000, and he screwed up each time ! He isn't worth helping, he isn't worth anyone's effort, some people simply are a lost cause and he's one of them ! And his suffering isn't the reason to that, it's nothing but his own fault, and everyone in the show knows it but they still believe in him. No. Just give up on him already, he is responsible for the majority of the catastrophes that occured throughout the show, and even if he sometimes seem to be better, just wait 5 minutes and you'll find him slamming his face against a tree while muttering weird stuff and crying. I actually wanted to believe in him in the first season, I did believe in him, but here he just proved he's not worth it at all. Can we have a new mc please ? This one's really not working correctly. Aaaand for the rest, well, I think I already said everything in previous threads... I give this season a 6, some aspects were truly good but some others were truly meh. I'm still looking forward to the second part, I want to believe it'll be better now that we're done with the first half of the arc. @Astrosaurs168 I purposely exaggerated to emphasize on the fact that if he took the right decision, there are a lot of times when things wouldn't have gone as bad as they did, at least not to such a degree (which is the case, even if I don't at all blame him for everything). Besides, I don't even hate him and I don't think I ever will, I'm just very annoyed |
FafetteDec 2, 2020 11:23 PM
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| slightly late here, but season 2 was a great watch, 9/10 from me. I thought it was a really great continuation from season 1, carried on over a lot of the things i loved about the first season and made them better, even adding some extras in. Story wise, love where it is heading. Loved season 1's plot, and season 2 in my opinion is an amazing continuation story wise. Kept a lot of good plot points like the introduction to a problem, that slowly after each of Subaru's rests we see more and more into, uncovering more information and later twists. The twists, my god the plot twists. I might not be the brightest in terms of brains, but i loved the plot twists way more in this season then season 1 tbh. Each of them this season definitely to me felt like such a heavy hitter every time there was one revealed. Character wise, characters we already saw such as Subaru, otto, Roswaal etc, i felt got some really good character development. Subaru having to go through the witch's trials was an excellent way to show some of his past, along some character development which i loved, more screen time for otto and him coming in clutch most this season, as well as him really bonding well with Subaru was great to see and finally Roswaal himself, really thought he turned into a big plot point for the story, like the ice breaker in it. New characters were hella interesting. Obviously, loved Echidna through and through. She was a really good character for helping Subaru push through when he needed it the most, and helping him developed as a character massively. Her role in this season is massive to say the least, and definitely a new favourite. I guess one downside i found about this season, was that it is i guess only 1 arc (as of part 1)? Whole season has primarily been based on the Sanctuary, which compared to season 1 with things like the mansion arc, witch cult arc etc, felt kinda lacklustre. But honestly, they did a really good job at this arc, felt like they fitted so much development, plot and important characters big ones such as Echidna, that it makes up for the lack of different scenarios like in season 1. Quality over quantity i guess? All in all, great continuation. Really looking forward to season 2 and the rest of the story. Just wished i could of finished this anime at the end of its airing date ;-; |
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SomethinRandumb said: One thing I don't get is how the witch of envy is supposed to represent envy. I don't see her acting envious at all. Makes me feel like some time-travel shit is going to be introduced later on in the story. One important scene that was cut in this episode is the explanation that Satella and the Witch of Envy are two different personnalities. Basically, the ultra aggressive, crazy one we've seen earlier is the "Witch of Envy" persona, and the calmer, more rational one that cares deeply for Subaru is the "Satella" persona. However, Satella is the one who devoured half of the world. The other witches of sin despise the "Witch of Envy" but are somewhat friendly/neutral with Satella, with the exception of Echidna who hates both of them. Satella gained the "Witch of Envy" persona when she absorbed the Envy witch factor (for yet unknown reasons) that she was incompatible with. Generally speaking, the anime adaptation is almost flawless but this episode was quite the exception. |
| Man what an episode. With the witches and valuing life, that is deep. Who knew such witches could be so helpful too. Roswaal is a great character in this, forcing Subaru to make a decision like that. But the guy has his own ground to stick on so he doesn't become like him. Good episode. I like how Otto backed Subaru, punched him back to his senses again. Just in time for s2p2 as well. |
| This cour was somewhat meandering, but I'll withhold judgement until the 2nd season is finished. I was, however, quite fond of anything involving Echidna and Satella. Plus, the episode with Subaru and his family was the highlight of the season. It was very moving. Subaru's harem grows and grows. Now he's got a harem of witches! |
| So who is Envy Witch, xD. They didn't want Subaru to die or lose his way, they saved Subaru in their own way. The mastermind behind all this is Rosewall, how much she loves Echidna. I also don't know who he loves. Friends always help you of you have a trouble 10/10 for this anime |
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| Another great episode, I really can't wait to watch part two but no choice, gotta hang in there til the end of March!! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| already watching the 2nd half of the 2nd season and man im so lost. prolly going to have to rewatch from the 1st season again to try and refresh my memory. there are a few things that bug me though, it feels like there are missing pieces from what ive remembered (like chars, settings and whatnot),.. |
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| The first season of attack on titan was a great thrill ride that more than served its purpose of setting up the world and establishing our characters, introducing us to its world and sucking us into it. Then the second season came with the purpose of even further deepening its world building and lore, but also more importantly expanding upon our characters, fleshing them out even further and giving us hints as to what has happened in their pasts or just straight up showing us their past in full. I'd like to think it's the same as Re:Zero, as here in the second season is where things really start to get real and the character interactions and explorations are actually starting to deepen. Many light novel readers say that this is the true start to what Re:Zero really is, and I can see how that is so. Don't even want to call this an isekai because one: you could take out the isekai aspect completely and it wouldn't change much. There's subaru's back story with his parents but you could have just as easily cut and pasted such events into this isekai world. And two: lumping this near-masterpiece of a drama with all others in the isekai genre out there would not do it justice. This entire series, and this second season that we've just watched, are very good. However while I am mildly intrigued I am still not a fan and personally am just kind of lost on what everyone's motivations are. Maybe I'm supposed to be confused, as things are still not revealed? Whatever, to me it's good, not great. 6/10. I enjoyed it just as much as the first season but not for the same reasons |
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| Judging on the basis of this episode alone Estella doesn't seem to evil at all She seem soo innocent just like Emilia She was even crying... I felt that damn she only needs someone to love her |
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| Honestly I find Otto to be more suitable as an MC. Anyways I can't get over the fact that they spent 13 episodes in just this Arc and possibly more in the second part. But it was no surprise that Roswaal is one of the main antagonist. The witches were quite interesting and not evil as presumed. There was some progression in the story but the constant return to death crap is getting quite tedious to watch. And it's not like Subaru's obnoxious character makes it better. He's the same despairing, self-loathing and simping crybaby he was in the first season. Always whining about being weak and pathetic but making absolutely little to no effort in getting stronger and perceptive. But I feel like the author intends to keep him this way so people can continue being empathic. However, I personally think S1 was enough time and I am tired of this shit. The only episode that made me feel a little empathic towards him was the one about his parents. But that episode made me realize he was self-indulging uncaring loser playing the victim in real world. I hope this gets better in the second part but I doubt it. |
| Has it been revealed why Roswaal wants Subaru to be like him? There are so many questions that I hope get answered in part 2. Overall I do prefer season 1 but I will give season 2 part 1 a 7/10 (as opposed to my 8 for season 1). |
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| It's amazing to see the story be so well written. Loving the story and the development of Subaru's character. Meeting all the witches, seeing the Witch of Envy not be nearly as horrible as we thought she was in season 1. Fantastic continuation of Season 1 and really curious to see what Part 2 has to show me. |
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| Time for Subaru to get his shit together again. The witches are a cool group of people. Even if they are all somewhat crazy in their own way. Roswald are the two assassins employers? Wut? He really is insane.... Both Otto and Patrasche are amazing and Subaru is lucky to have them both. |
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| Immense, and I feel I haven't even fully understood the philosophy that lies beneath this saga. I will read some analisys to have a better comprehension. For this season, 9/10, I hope to be able to read the Novel furtherly. |
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| I was lost for most of the season. Too many things were confusing. Reading the comments by light novel readers helped a bit. It is clear the anime skipped a lot of content. The first season adapted 9 volumes and yet it didn't feel rushed. I don't know what happened here. The only two moments that I truly liked in this cour are 1) Subaru's conversation with his parents and 2) Him talking to Echidna about RBD with relief. I didn't watch the director's cut or the prequel movie yet. That may be the reason for this. I have no idea why the barrier was put around the sanctuary in the first place. Or why Ram took the villagers there as a means of protection even though beasts can enter the sanctuary (like the rabbit did). So if Roswaal hired Elsa does that mean he did that in the first season as well? But at the time he didn't even know Subaru. |
| I would give this cour a 5/10 this time. Subaru's character itself is still too much in a loop were real development when it happens, gets backtracked when more mysteries are learned and then he grows, and then reverts, etc. I get why but that inconsistent nature of his character leads him to be a main character I don't particularly feel too much for even in his lowest moments and everything he went through, unlike Okabe and Kazuki Hoshino in Steins;Gate and HakoMari respectively where even through loops, their characters progressed and developed in a terrific manner through all the bullshit that happened. It gets kind of old in Subaru's shoes. At least he didn't piss me off as much as in the first season where he was just unwatchable there compared to this one so that aspect is an improvement I guess, but his characterization still sucks for me. Also the pacing was weird in this season, bits felt too rushed and bits felt way too slow and dragged out which stuck out a lot more than the first season. With how dense the material here is in this arc compared to the other 3, having key dialogue cut doesn't help the storytelling and having some unimportant stuff play out too long makes the story drag out way more. I blame the source material for the key issue since pacing there sucked too but the anime did not help much here and it resulted in some really, really, really boring phases because of it. Visuals were a step down too from the first season with directing falling flat for the most part. But, among all those issues, I did like how the mysteries subtly built up from the first season were paying itself off with good developments in this cour, getting to learn more about the Witches themselves, the Return by Death ability, some of the trials for the Sanctuary like how Subaru had to re-experience stuff from his past and make peace with it, Emilia's character being built up well for the next cour as she just suffers this whole cour through failing those trials, etc. It feels very slow since in the grand scheme of things, not much actually happened besides some answers being revealed and settings being unchanged for the whole cour barring the mansion and Sanctuary, but the build up does serve well for the next cour and future seasons to deliver on. Even Beatrice's character is a lot more interesting here compared to the first season, and there weren't over the top wacky villains like Betelgeuse to piss me off with how annoying they were. Story actually had some weight this cour unlike the first season. So yeah, this season from a storytelling perspective despite the sluggish pacing was a lot better and more interesting with tons of lore involved, even if Subaru's character still isn't that great or sympathetic to me. I like this better than the storytelling Arc 3 tried to present with its first half and the inconsistencies there. So yeah, an average season with lots of things to like but also hampered by pacing that made it ungodly boring at times, directing (some key dialogue being removed without a suitable replacement) and character issues for Subaru, to prevent it from being more than just a fine season. Even with those issues, this was way more interesting than Subaru being a geek at the mansion or being an uncharacteristic asshole to Emilia or whatever Arc 1 was. |
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