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Aug 21, 2015 12:12 PM

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ttcchen said:
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Definitely a shame.
what's the chinese name for Biscuit Frankenstein?

we're completely of topic now, if any new question after this one (no matter who) about those novels please ask directly on my profile.

I don't know( since I don't speak chinese) if this one is translated in chinese, maybe you should ask Alencia?
I know Youjo Senki and Shinigami wo tabeta shoujo have official translation in chinese, and that yuusha, aruiwa bakemono wo tabeta shoujo doesn't have any translation. So the only unknown is... Biscuit Frankenstein lol. (Biscuit Frankenstein received the highest award on the 9th Sense of Gender Awards Grand Prize (2009) BTW ) .
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Nice of Hans to do a "before I kill you Mr. Bond" and jump on Adlet to gloat rather than just kill him.

Pacing continues to be horrible. We got shown backstory that has nothing to do with getting out of the barrier. When I told a guy they're spending the entire season in the barrier his jaw literally dropped. He'd already dropped the show for bad pacing and now he felt like a super genius for doing so. He couldn't understand how a show framed as assaulting the demon king could get derailed into being about getting out of a room. 12 episodes is 2 full length movies worth of time. The Avengers could have saved the earth twice in the same time.


Look. This is the clearest example of a person exposed to only uber-condenced LN adaptations with distorted story tellings. It's simply baffling to see someone write such nonsense, like, did you really include Avengers as a good example of any sort? I don't understand where have people got such a clear notion that this 12 episode LN adaptation is about defeating the Majin, maybe the whole show is about the mystery of who is the seventh, maybe the Majin's defeat is not even the main part of the show, the synopsis clearly puts focus on the mystery of the seventh, which the whole volume 1 will be about. It's more than naive to expect the series to reach its end goal and not being top tier trainwreck, especially when the novels are not finished.

Honestly, I can't call this series having slow pacing, I see this series as, finally, having proper pacing and story flow, it's how a mystery story, and any fantasy adventure story, should be told with attention to details that are vital for characterization and mystery establishment, scenery usage to create atmosphere - I see no minute redundant in the show. And I simply cannot imagine this show being condensed and not being just another 3/10 LN adaptation that we have almost every season. It's a shame that you can't enjoy the show with the content it has, but calling this series as having bad pacing is simply dumb.

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robis798 said:


Look. This is the clearest example of a person exposed to only uber-condenced LN adaptations with distorted story tellings. It's simply baffling to see someone write such nonsense, like, did you really include Avengers as a good example of any sort? I don't understand where have people got such a clear notion that this 12 episode LN adaptation is about defeating the Majin, maybe the whole show is about the mystery of who is the seventh, maybe the Majin's defeat is not even the main part of the show, the synopsis clearly puts focus on the mystery of the seventh, which the whole volume 1 will be about. It's more than naive to expect the series to reach its end goal and not being top tier trainwreck, especially when the novels are not finished.

Honestly, I can't call this series having slow pacing, I see this series as, finally, having proper pacing and story flow, it's how a mystery story, and any fantasy adventure story, should be told with attention to details that are vital for characterization and mystery establishment, scenery usage to create atmosphere - I see no minute redundant in the show. And I simply cannot imagine this show being condensed and not being just another 3/10 LN adaptation that we have almost every season. It's a shame that you can't enjoy the show with the content it has, but calling this series as having bad pacing is simply dumb.


wow, this summaries how I feel about the show this a quality post with good writting. 10/10

The only problem with it is of course that while I really like them taking their time to do things the proper way. It really sucks that they are prob never even gonna touch the wailing zone and for us anime watchers a huge part of the story might never get told so I understand the frustration some people might have with the show specially since I think there is no second season by planned at the moment as far as I know.
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Zefyris said:

You have a great set my friend.

Anyway Hans, since he is an assassin or whatever, could have activated the altar easily without being seen.
Aug 22, 2015 10:08 AM

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Xenocrisi said:
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You have a great set my friend.

Anyway Hans, since he is an assassin or whatever, could have activated the altar easily without being seen.


How'd he do that? He was with Mora at that time.
Aug 22, 2015 11:12 AM

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The next will be delayed by a day.
Aug 22, 2015 11:20 AM

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Adlet and Hans are turning out to be my favorite characters so far. Hans is very interesting and mysterious. Adlet is a bit annoying, but a nice guy. They're both the odd ones out in terms of who you'd expect to be part of the group. The Saints are obviously pretty powerful when they can use their powers efficiently. Goldov is a Royal Guard or something (don't really care honestly). They're who you'd expect to be chosen for the most part. Hans and Adlet are both unknowns: an agile assassin and a crafty ninja-like fighter.


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Aug 22, 2015 11:44 AM

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Stark700 said:
The next will be delayed by a day.


why?! is something airing in its place?
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Aug 22, 2015 11:47 AM

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27CansOfTuna said:
Stark700 said:
The next will be delayed by a day.


why?! is something airing in its place?


Production problems?
Aug 22, 2015 11:56 AM

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This episode pretty much confirmed that Adlet and Fremy will be the main star of the show.
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Tylaen said:
27CansOfTuna said:


why?! is something airing in its place?


Production problems?


Nope, probably a special program that aired it in itself place. Gatchaman Crowds also not airing today.
Aug 22, 2015 1:00 PM

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^ Baseball match is airing instead.
Aug 22, 2015 4:55 PM

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Forgetfulness said:

Ughhh I wanna know the answer to the mystery D:
But I've already caught up to airing so I guess I'll now have to join in the weekly wait


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Aug 22, 2015 5:35 PM

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Tylaen said:
Xenocrisi said:

You have a great set my friend.

Anyway Hans, since he is an assassin or whatever, could have activated the altar easily without being seen.


How'd he do that? He was with Mora at that time.

It'd be possible if Hans is the 7th and Mora is the 8th

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^ Baseball match is airing instead.

Even the strongest man in the world can't defeat baseball lol
Aug 22, 2015 6:13 PM
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I doubt this is gonna get a 2nd season so I'll just keep reading the LN. Pace a LN improperly, fans want proper pacing; Pace a LN properly, fans want less exposition etc....Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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oh my.. i'm tired of waiting.. i'm very excited of ep 8, and it delayed.
WHYYY





but, i must be patient.. for Rny..
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It's apparent all the women don't like Hans. He did dis Chamot indirectly that she's not a "pretty girl", then Chamot just goes off playing alone with...colorful veins?
Interesting Adlet v Hans fight, though drawings need qc.
Lol Gator with weird voice & hat.
Nice backstories. They reveal shared knowledge about Atro, Gator, and how they annex villages. Fiends have dogs!?
Aug 23, 2015 3:22 AM
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Forgetfulness said:
ttcchen said:
It'd be possible if Hans is the 7th and Mora is the 8th
If Hans is the 7th and Mora is the 8th, then that must mean there's some legitimate Brave out there that hasn't met up with the group, otherwise there wouldn't be 6 Braves.

The point of Adlet's 8 person theory is that there is another enemy outside of the 7, not that there are two enemies within the 7.

I didn't read early posts, anyways it's likely Demons planned to make the 7th a "decoy", and it works so well they spend most their time looking for Adlet (regardless if he's it). 8th is the real threat, who is unknown except to Adlet (+ Fremy), and this episode Adlet said he feared the 8th would kill off braves.

Totally in character if Adlet burst into singing "Smile though your heart is aching, Smile even though it's breaking..."
Aug 24, 2015 12:54 AM

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It's apparent all the women don't like Hans. He did dis Chamot indirectly that she's not a "pretty girl", then Chamot just goes off playing alone with...colorful veins?

Well, it seems Hans is just bad at dealing with girls.

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Fiends have dogs!?

It's explained in the novels (and Fremy during her first appearance), that demons are alright with animals, and hate only humans.

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I wasn't aware the Fiends were that intelligent. Like Fremie said they had friends and played and stuff, so I guess they're not just dumb beasts.
I am really curious to see if there are anything actually look humanlike though? And attractive enough to mate with? Or if they're all just ugly af

I've read 3 volumes of the novel, and there weren't any demons whose real form was humanlike. Some were humanoid, like the demon that went to Adlet's village.
But Fremy's mother might just be humanlike and attractive. She did manage to seduce Fremy's father, right? (or maybe he was into bestiality, but I like the idea of a good-looking kyouma better)
Aug 26, 2015 2:59 AM

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One thing I disagree with, concerning Nashetania and Goldov, is that mostly everyone is assuming that if she is revealed to be the 7th, Goldov will still follow her. At first, I myself wasn't completely sure as to whether or not his loyalty would be that blind, but this episode furthers the thought that he won't go that far.

The princess just asked him to help prove Adlet's innocence, who is currently the main suspect. I mean, if he won't help her to simply clear the suspect's name, then why would he serve the actual 7th Brave? At best, if she's revealed by Adlet or someone else to be the culprit, I feel that the most he'll do for her is ward off any initial attacks, so that we can get an explanation for her role as the 7th Brave.


The reason he is reluctant to help her in helping Adlet though is the same reason his so loyal. Because he loves her and he sees Adlet as someone that could take her away from him. His jealous.
So saying that his reluctance shows he won't do anything for her is not quite right since unlike a scenario of her being the 7th this is directly involved with his love for her.
Aug 29, 2015 10:45 AM

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Yay some good cat fights.. hope the animation was better.
Aug 29, 2015 8:54 PM

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flannan said:

I've read 3 volumes of the novel, and there weren't any demons whose real form was humanlike. Some were humanoid, like the demon that went to Adlet's village.
But Fremy's mother might just be humanlike and attractive. She did manage to seduce Fremy's father, right? (or maybe he was into bestiality, but I like the idea of a good-looking kyouma better)


A little spoiler on how kyouma biology works.

Sep 2, 2015 7:08 AM

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Fremy seals herself as my favorite character for sure now. Somehow I get the feeling that she'll end up protecting Adlet regardless of what she says.

Something that occurred to me this episode is that Hans is the only one of the group we can confirm has a reason to be the seventh brave: money. That fiend who attacked Adlet's childhood home tried to recruit humans to serving the demon god, right? This confirms that the fiends don't mindless attack and kill all humans. They have a purpose for the humans, and the humans who serve the demon god could be protected. Now factor in that Hans appears to have no loyalty to anything and only accepted this position because he got paid for it... he could've just as easily been paid by a fiend instead, could he not have?



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Fremy seals herself as my favorite character for sure now. Somehow I get the feeling that she'll end up protecting Adlet regardless of what she says.

Something that occurred to me this episode is that Hans is the only one of the group we can confirm has a reason to be the seventh brave: money. That fiend who attacked Adlet's childhood home tried to recruit humans to serving the demon god, right? This confirms that the fiends don't mindless attack and kill all humans. They have a purpose for the humans, and the humans who serve the demon god could be protected. Now factor in that Hans appears to have no loyalty to anything and only accepted this position because he got paid for it... he could've just as easily been paid by a fiend instead, could he not have?

Well, that would be a complete nonsense, though. Hans might be an assassin, but he was no naive about things, it would be naive that you think you would got a payment from a deceitful beings like Kyouma, the way he think about Fremy confirm that. What kind of money do you think he will got from them, in no way he can work for money from Kyouma. Unless you think Hans was a fools, than perhaps you are right.
Sep 6, 2015 12:24 PM

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Fucking cliffhanger
Sep 6, 2015 2:32 PM

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Nice backstories for both of them.
Engaging episode.
Sep 7, 2015 11:40 AM

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For being the "Strongest man in the world" he just got rekt.
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Sep 13, 2015 2:39 AM

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K. Now the bunny hime is acting suspicious again. Yay, such a mystery

Chamo is dabes <3
Sep 21, 2015 8:52 AM

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Episode that keeps a narrative bland, perhaps the spark that will accelerate the events is in the final, who knows! Interesting story, but still not what I expected. Designs as good as or almost, but not up animations during the final battle between Adlet and Hans.
Sep 21, 2015 11:29 AM

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Flamie and Adlet have so much more chemistry than Adlet and Nachetanya.

I don't like how weak they've been making Nachetanya in the last few episodes though. I knew she was naive, but before she was outgoing and confident, so this feels like a personality change. She has shown to be clever with manipulation though, so it would make more sense if she was faking. She's the only one who trusted in Adlet's character and immediately gave him the benefit of the doubt though. Honestly, people need to listen to their heart sometimes. Logic without emotion can be destructive. I also like how she is protecting him.

I am really liking Hans. He seems the sharpest and more experienced than everyone else and brings a wised perspective to the group, but characteristic of an assassin, he's selfish, heartless and calculating, so even if he seems honest and like his clear incentive is profit, I still don't think he should be so quickly trusted as an allly.

Loved the fight scene between him and Adlet as well.

Mora seems like she is the most book educated and has the most experience with leadership. I'm surprised being a princess Nachetanya isn't more like that. She trusts Han's opinion quite a bit.

I think Goldof's jealousy made him quicker to lunge at Adlet and believe he was a fake. He seems the most insecure emotionally, and a tiny bit possessive of Nachetanya. Also, Nachetanya has quite a sway over him.

I do not like Chamot and her sadistic disposition. It's true Flamie and Hans both have a lack of regard for human life, but she feels like the worst because of her outward enjoyment of it, and how she acted solely on her emotions of accusing Flamie because of her grudge instead of logic.

Honestly though, that they immediately made the decision that one was a fake without considering more possibilities really bugs me. The longer they believe it, the more grounded in truth it will seem. There is still the possibility of seven braves.
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That cliffhanger though. Damn!

And what was Chamot doing? What were those tenacle-ish thingies?
Oct 3, 2015 7:46 PM

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Superb cliffhanger! Can't really stop here can I now :p
Oct 4, 2015 4:44 PM

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They're all suspicious as hell, TBH.

Show continues to be interesting. Oh, my sweet lady paranoia.
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Good to see some emotion from Fremy, for a change. The fight was cool.
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Episode that keeps a narrative bland, perhaps the spark that will accelerate the events is in the final, who knows! Interesting story, but still not what I expected. Designs as good as or almost, but not up animations during the final battle between Adlet and Hans.

I cannot help but think this generic "blabla story-telling instead of killing someone" cliché stuff is what this show will contain a lot of from now on.
Hope it proves me wrong.
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Adlet's backstory and Fremy's backstory are finally presented.
It's Adlet vs Hans! THE CLIFFHANGER!
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Too much boring talk. Still annoyed by Flamie's voice and way of talking and Adlet's past was too insignificant for me to care.

Goldov might be a douche for suddenly attacking Adlet in the previous episode but in this episode, he's the least annoying simply because he did not talk much. Unlike that stupid fucker Hans who goes nya nya nya everytime he talks, when he laughs even when he's fighting he's going nya nya. Annoying fucker.

Also I find Nashetanya's desperation to prove Adlet's innocence suspicious.
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Nashetanya with her long rabbit ears didn't her anything near the temple yet the knight wearing a helmet on his head could hear it lol... very suspicious!
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Nashetanya with her long rabbit ears didn't her anything near the temple yet the knight wearing a helmet on his head could hear it lol... very suspicious!

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DAT BACKSTORY!

Go Nashe! Clear the one you love of suspicion.

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I don't think its Hans, hes just way too obvious a suspect. I think its either Nashetania or Chamo

My main suspect being Nashetania. Ive suspected her and Chamo for awhile now, but after this episode I'm almost convinced Nashetania is the 7th. The biggest red flag for me was when Goldov said he heard something going on at the temple and she just brushed it off as nothing. I bet shes hoping Hans and Adlet will kill one another at the temple, and maybe distract the others while shes off killing Goldov in the forest. He trusts her completely, which she suspiciously made sure to confirm this episode. Poor bastard will never see it coming...

Also I still have no idea who the *8th* could be if there even is one. But I think it could be one of them as well, maybe they already killed one of the braves and 2 fakes took their place. I honestly would have suspected Goldov to be the 8th if not for that scene between him and Nashetania in the forest.

As to why I still suspect Chamo, well tbh its mainly because if somehow Nashetania doesn't turn out to be the 7th then she would be the most suspicious after her. But I doubt it, I'm pretty much convinced its Nashetania at this point. Of course Chamo could still be the 8th as well, but I kinda doubt that too.

Anyway, I'm really interested to find out for sure who it is, and to see if I'm right or horribly wrong with all my speculation lol.
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It's hard to tell if Hans is the seventh because he's so shady but at times he can be smart. Adlet X Flamie shipping for meh, let's hope this won't follow the first girl rule because I think Flamie is better than the princess.
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Maura seems like the least suspected Brave. Why do I feel like it could be her?

Still think it might be Nasitania or maybe Goldov
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What was with that ending? So Nashetania apparently didn't "hear" anything from the temple.. Most likely she's playing dumb. Either it's because she potentially wants Adelt to be kept alive since she's the 7th, or maybe she believes in Adelt, that he'll get his weapons back and prove who the 7th brave is and she doesn't want Goldof to interfere.... Please be the latter, I rly don't want Nashetania to be the 7th brave.......


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Tylaen said:
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You have a great set my friend.

Anyway Hans, since he is an assassin or whatever, could have activated the altar easily without being seen.


How'd he do that? He was with Mora at that time.


Who is the 8th... Who was that fiend who was in the barrier when they should not have been able to be?

I still think it is Mora
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I don't know if i'm stupid but I still don't know who's the seventh, Adelt is still alone against all... so much tension !
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I kinda cracked how Nashetania played dumb(?) when Goldov asked if she heard something from the temple. Even though it wasn't really intended that way but still. That just makes her more suspicious, but I mean I do doubt Goldov too. It's been seven episodes, and like there should be enough hints, but I don't know I still didn't figure:(

Fremy may say she won't help Adlet but I guess she will if it comes down to that, but for now he's battling against Hans all alone, and if it hasn't already gotten worse for him, it'll get more if someone returned back to the temple.
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