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| -General facts revealed in this ep. 1. Arbiters know the memories of the deceased 2. Reincarnation (GOOD) = soul inhabits another person. Void (BAD) = soul is lost & plunged into deep darkness 3. Machiko's soul sent to void (never to return); Takashi's soul sent to reincarnation (another chance at life) 4. Machiko DID CHEAT. But it was a one-time thing and she truly regrets it. We don't know why she cheated but it was probably cuz of takashi's suspicions of her cheating. 5. Machiko lied about baby not being takashi's & not loving him in order to reduce his grief by making him hate her. 6. Takashi should've been sent to the void cuz he's the one who got both of them killed 7. In this place, judgment is made by whoever shows off the most darkness in their soul. They then get plunged into the void. These games are used to determine that. -TL;DR: 8. In the end, Dequim made a bad judgment call. He took machiko's "confession" at face value, saw that as her true dark self & used that to determine their judgment when it was clear that she was clearly putting up an act in order to reduce takashi's grief. she was using a lie to save takashi but dequim couldn't see it. 9/10 |
| Another very interesting episode.I guess we will never know whether she was lying or not... I'm really loving the opening. |
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| It was cool to see things explained from a different perspective. I still really want to learn more about the characters and how all this came to be but I guess that's for another episode :( Nano best girl though. |
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| Damn So the wife did cheat and lie to save her husband That was one of my first thoughts when we only saw the couple's perspective last week but Decim falling for the wife's lie is what threw me As for the new characters, Nona's all right but it's kind of weird how the new Assistant to be just takes all this new info and situation like it's another job. I'm not saying she needs to freak out but a more relatable reaction would have been nice |
DerMond said: Apparently, cheating is enough to send you to hell (more than being the jealous paranoïd person that caused the accident). I can't help but feel something wrong there... Well, at least, that's good to know. First he said he made the wrong call, second you're not really paranoid if there really is someone after you. He thought she cheated on him and she did. He was just wrong about the scope of the cheating. Now I personally think neither negligent killing nor cheating is necessarily grounds for blasting the soul out of existence, but then again... |
BVerfG said: First he said he made the wrong call, second you're not really paranoid if there really is someone after you. He thought she cheated on him and she did. He was just wrong about the scope of the cheating. Now I personally think neither negligent killing nor cheating is necessarily grounds for blasting the soul out of existence, but then again... He was paranoid, as he couldn't trust anyone. Agreed that both things shouldn't be enough to send someone to the Void. But again, if the Void is the disappearance of the soul, you can consider it better than reincarnation depending on your beliefs. |
| "Even now, I travel on my journey, Believing in the world, Aiming for something far away – an endless journey. Having a dream like someone else’s, Or being in someone else’s dream – Which would you prefer?" |
BVerfG said: First he said he made the wrong call, second you're not really paranoid if there really is someone after you. He thought she cheated on him and she did. He was just wrong about the scope of the cheating. Now I personally think neither negligent killing nor cheating is necessarily grounds for blasting the soul out of existence, but then again... But that's wrong, the bitches on the bathroom were talking about someone else not her. So yeah he got the wrong idea cuz the actually cheating was after the marriage which it was probably caused by him being outlandish to her. |
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| Nice episode. Nona is a very interesting character. Good to know how the whole game works. Seeing it through the perspective of the black haired girl gave us more of an insight on how things work. |
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| Very much enjoying the direction this is going. |
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| So after all that theory crafting and shit going on, it turns out that Decim just fucked up ? Nona's design is reallllly nice. Another solid episode none the less. |
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| Pretty cool episode - did they mention what happens if the two people refuse to play the game yet? If the mannequin prompt doesn't work? |
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| I really like how this episode played out. It's like the makers know their audience very well, because they knew what everyone would be discussing after the first episode so the second one addressed those concerns very satisfactorily. Nothing short of perfect. |
Vexper said: Pretty cool episode - did they mention what happens if the two people refuse to play the game yet? They can't leave the place, so... pretty much nothing ? |
| "Even now, I travel on my journey, Believing in the world, Aiming for something far away – an endless journey. Having a dream like someone else’s, Or being in someone else’s dream – Which would you prefer?" |
| I hope they dont continue creating recaps after each game episode |
| So a lot of speculations that have been going on are confirmed now. Still I don't think the Void is actually intended to be a "good" thing, like many people here might believe. And Decim isn't actually a perfect judge, huh... What I think is a bit sad, that even if two morally more ore less good persons get there, one still is going to the Void, maybe just because they behaved a bit too unfriendly while playing the game. Like in this case, neither her cheating nor his paranoia should be reason enough to get your soul thrown out of existence^^ Liked the episode overall, and I hope there also is more to the plot beside the games in the following episodes, but I'm optimistic on that! |
marriage said: I hope they dont continue creating recaps after each game episode Same, though I'm hopeful we'll get a combo of eps1&2 for episode 3 (game+simultaneous analysis) since the makers of this show seem to know really well what they're doing. |
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1cebear said: What I think is a bit sad, that even if two morally more ore less good persons get there, one still is going to the Void, maybe just because they behaved a bit too unfriendly while playing the game. Like in this case, neither her cheating nor his paranoia should be reason enough to get your soul thrown out of existence^^ Maybe that will get brought up later on in a different game. Probably by Onna. And then Nona will object. :p |
1cebear said: So a lot of speculations that have been going on are confirmed now. Still I don't think the Void is actually intended to be a "good" thing, like many people here might believe. And Decim isn't actually a perfect judge, huh... What I think is a bit sad, that even if two morally more ore less good persons get there, one still is going to the Void, maybe just because they behaved a bit too unfriendly while playing the game. Like in this case, neither her cheating nor his paranoia should be reason enough to get your soul thrown out of existence^^ Liked the episode overall, and I hope there also is more to the plot beside the games in the following episodes, but I'm optimistic on that! if people like eternal darkness then sure. |
| Yup, this is definitely AOTS (Excluding tge sequels) if it goes on like this.....Such a deep episode I fucking knew that the wife was putting on an act and that she was lying about all that stuff that she said!!!!!!! I already felt bad for her but now I feel really bad :( Seeing all my suspicions get confirmed made it even harder for me. Also, I liked how Decim realized that he fucked up too because that guy should have gone to the void. Yeah what the wife did was bad, but in the end she really did love him and she was going to tell him. This entire situation was the man's fault, and because of his nature/trust issues he was completely blind to the truth and as such he would have never been able to at least make amends before he past even if she told him the truth about her feelings (Plus like the wide said, him knowing that he was wrong about everything would have made things worse for him so props to the wife for being a good person) The way this series goes into human nature is just amazing, and the depth behind it all is too cool Nona is an interesting character as well, so far I like everyone we got introduced to especially the assistant because I think that same way as she does 5/5ï episode for me, can't wait to find out more |
| Freaking hell... I just can't get enough of the damn OP... it's just too epic and I just need to dance with them XD. Ah, so this is going to be a "behind the scenes" type of episode and show us how things work. So I was right to think that Machiko lied for Takashi's sake and ended in the void for him. LOL, so Nona's the boss around there XD? Really nice episode and I can't wait to see what kind of people will visit them next time. |
| "Let justice be done, though the heavens fall." |
| Boring. Can we move away from this couple already? Though I like the fact that Decim made a mistake. I thought he was going to be a 'perfect' character but I guess not. |
SalemWitch said: marriage said: I hope they dont continue creating recaps after each game episode Same, though I'm hopeful we'll get a combo of eps1&2 for episode 3 (game+simultaneous analysis) since the makers of this show seem to know really well what they're doing. Explaining everything thats happening wouldnt make it very interesting imo and would take any mystery out of it, shots of the people entering either the void or reincarnation elevators were enough for me |
| Yeah, I thought they would keep the tension and explain as little as possible, but looks like the series is going to have a more relaxing tempo. |
| (|__/) Never give up, aim for the top! (='.'=) Top wo nerae! o(")(") Anime music: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=777199 |
| Both opening and ending -animation and songs- are pretty damn amazing in this show! I'm very happy with iit. [mmmm short girl sure is bossy.cute] |
| Seeing the other side of the previous episode was really interesting. Nona was a bit scary with Decim there.. I thought he was in charge (wrong apparently). |
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marriage said: SalemWitch said: Same, though I'm hopeful we'll get a combo of eps1&2 for episode 3 (game+simultaneous analysis) since the makers of this show seem to know really well what they're doing. Explaining everything thats happening wouldnt make it very interesting imo and would take any mystery out of it, shots of the people entering either the void or reincarnation elevators were enough for me I'm sure the analysis will also serve for expanding the world and familiarizing ourselves with Onna and Decim. There's still so much unknown: can two people who die at the same time be reincarnated? Does this mean both can also be sent to the void? Where did Onna come from? What happens if two people refuse to play the game? Who exactly are Nona and Decim? Who are they all, really? I'm sure all this will be covered in future episodes because the makers knew exactly what people would be discussing after episode 1 and so made episode 2 with this in mind. Stands to reason they would follow this pattern and answer the questions they pose in each episode in the next one, which means no episode will follow a specific format. |
darkreaver94 said: Very good episode. It shows how quick a person pass a judgement towards others without truly understand them. Decim admitted his mistake which is what I liked about his character. He might undergo some character development with the help of Onna :) 5/5. Interested to see the next game. Exactly, like everyone saying she deserved the Void for cheating once. Man, that's so f*cked up, having a person/thing that doesn't understand human emotions and actions to judge humans....based off their emotions and actions! |
-inwA_ said: yeah, kind of guessed that's why Machiko said that in the last episode. This explanation confirmed my suspicion.I already asked myself even if she lied why she went to Void, and now we know it was Decim's fault that the Girl went to Void, he misjudged the Situation, nice Twist. |
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| It's nice to see this series won't be episodic :D Loved the way they showed last ep from a different perspective. Decim actually making a mistake. I'm loving Nona quite a lot :3 She's interesting. Looking forward to nxt eps couple. Bowling :O |
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koroX said: This was basically a recap. They just explained the first episode, and if you payed attention in the previous episode you already knew most of the information given this episode. This episode was disappointing, I just hope they won't stop to explain every other episode. Um, why would they do this after every episode? They just used Kurokami no Onna as a stand in for the audience to explain how shit goes down. Also, it wasn't really a recap as seems to be Decim's story; this whole ep was to show us how flawed he is. |
| I'd like to see Nona's backstory, I have a feeling some bad events made her an arbiter. They explained what happened to the couple but there's still unanswered questions... But it's okay, next week we're moving on. Also, I wonder if it's possible that both people end up going to 'hell'/'heaven' together. |
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koroX said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Um, why would they do this after every episode? They just used Kurokami no Onna as a stand in for the audience to explain how shit goes down. Also, it wasn't really a recap as seems to be Decim's story; this whole ep was to show us how flawed he is. It wasn't 100% a recap, but there was too much repetition imo. I just don't like when they explain everything in these kind of shows, it is better when they let the viewer think. When I watch these kind of shows I don't want the answers handed on a silver platter. Understandable. |
| Just going to copy my post from another forum: Ok, this was nice. Rolling all over it again from the other perspective to make the decision more clear but in a way that there is still room left for thought. I love how they have to interpret the human actions and show how hard it is even if you know their memories. What a nice theme for a show. I havn't spoiled myself with the preview but I'm looking forward to the next episode. TheUnbiasedOne91 said: White haired little b.tch already annoying I thought she is quite an intriguing character. InstaKiller said: Only i heard the poe ost at 13:25? You mean Path of Exile? I'm not too familiar with the whole OST, only listened to it a few times. I don't recognise the part you mentioned but it surely is the same style. Skullcrusher said: Interesting, this was better than the first episode. I agree, although the first episode was necessary to make this episode work. |
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| Also, at the end, Decim and Nona weren't talking to each other. Nona seemed to be talking to a higher up, and was told that the term would only be 3 months. Could them be talking about Machiko's term in the Void/Hell? As that would follow the Buddhist influences, that were also prominent in this ep as well. |
| Meh, nothing new. |
| Too much hand holding for my taste. Episode 2 ended up being a huge disappointment. |
 "Your sight, my delight. Will you marry me?" |
| Nice, Durarara/Baccano-esque episode. Just what is that place Nona went in though, seems very mysterious and gives off a nondescribable feeling or atmosphere... Where are they..? |
| L O V I N G T H I S While it was perfectly clear what happened in the first episode, them spelling it out must have helped clear the confusion for some people. I was honestly amazed at how dense some viewers were. Nice to see them spending time on world building. That's what everyone wanted coming out of Death Billiards. |
| -Nothing can stay unchanged. Even so, can you still keep on loving this place? -Be still my soul; when change and tears are past, all safe and blessed we shall meet at last. |
| I don't like Nona...I hope the rest of the added characters won't be collection of character types i can't stand.............. Also,i don't think it's particularly fair to judge people based on the games. People (but also all living things) simply act differently when they are put in tight a spot. But it doesn't mean you are automatically shitty person. And on top of that when the judge is not even perfect... But hey,it's only anime:D |
| I love the mystery of this series. |
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| Ehh it was an ok episode. |
| Great episode! Finally have clarification :D ! I'm starting to love the upbeat opening, it kinda reflects upon the show that's full of death and all that. 9/10 episode. |
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| I like how arbiters aren't infallible. Would have been too simple if that was all there was to the story. Rather, just like Decim said himself, he's not a god; he can make bad calls. |
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| I feel like there wasn't really any need to explain all that, it almost makes disappear the magic and mistery behind it, but oh well, hopefully the next episodes will makes up for it. |
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| Great explanation for last week's episode. This just go a lot more interesting. |
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| I really liked it. Lot of clarifications about how the system works but mysteries as well. I suppose the people in that place... grows in trees. That nonna woman must be the "gardener" of that place. |
| Great episode explaining the arbiter system as well as looking at Takeshi and Machiko's scenario in Onna's point of view. Shows that even Decim can make human errors too. Loving the OST and animation so far and looking foward to the bowling mini-game next week. =D |
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