Monogatari Series: Second Season
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| Wow, what a great episode! That was a massive deal of development between Senjougahara and Hanekawa. Really like seeing Hanekawa almost pushed out of her comfort zone and having to behave in a different way than she normally does. Either way, great discussions in this one. |
| Starting to love black hanekawa more and more let's just hope she doesn't get "put down" again . |
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| When I look again.. yeap they look beautiful with short hair as well. Hanekawa neko appearance was good. Glad to see her back in action. Nyann~ These girls sure can spend the whole day talking about anything at all. Wow that last question was harsh. Hitagi is awesome. |
| Senjougahara was cracking me up with the food questions. |
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| I can't believe I never noticed how stilted all the conversations in this show are. 1/5 |
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| The Cat Returns...Goddangit. Ep 2. Plot: Senjougahara and Hanekawa have a good time by themselves. The Cat returns and tries to confront the Tiger Oddity that she believes is what caused the Fire to Hanekawa's home. THe TIger reveals that the fact that Hanekawa noticed it was the key. Considering the past interactions of humans and Oddities, that was obvious. CHaracter: I still don't like the Cat. Hanekawa...to just accept things...definitely not good. To have likes, dislikes, loves, and hates. The extra seasoning on a character is how they react and perceive things around them. People, places, and things. To just accept for what they are but to have no clear feelings on them...can you even say that you can love? There are things that you never just accept as they are. Ever. Senjougahara: thank you for pointing this out. I was distracted by the food a bit too much and got hungry but you figuring it out from that was a stroke of genius. Animation/sound: It is a dang good coincidence that Hanekawa's body is strengthened whenever the Cat is around cause all that crap woulda sucked to wake up to. The TIger is still terrifying as all heck. 4/5. A major improvement on the first ep and that callback to the end of ep 1 was great. |
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| Wow, dat shower scene, have to say that was something very enojayble to watch, great fanservice! :) And their sleeping in one bed too. I bet Senjougahara is somehow envious of her body. But it was also great way to show their mutual (more than) friendship. Hmm, and interesting things going on with Black Hanekawa and Tiger, I really wonder what he is after. But I'm even more curious about what Senjougahara did to relieve her stress. She wasn't sleeping next to her in the morning and 3 chapters were skipped - is she maybe afraid of her somehow now? Or rather, was she really tired because she watched her all the night to change back? And their food talk during breakfast was just marvellous. They were literally acting as disillusioned couple :D Nice how Senjougahara realized Hanekawa and cat are actually the same person. And it was even better when she realized Hanekawa has nothing she dislikes (well, that's not wholly true when we remember her parents and her being jealous for example, but well). Now I really hope what Senjougahara said doesn't means Hanekawa's love is just delusion. Cause I still favor her the most. But maybe this is the right way how to break her out of her shell to actually feel for herself. This arc is easily the greatest possible with two best heroines in it. |
Mich666Oct 1, 2015 1:51 PM
| Senjougahara tearing into Hanekawa linking her eating anything questioning her 'true' love for Araragi. But I mean even Senjougahara is on record saying she would have have loved anyone who rescued her, it's not like both are loving on a some deeper level. |
| The tsubasa cat has returned. Lovely. Not a huge fan of OP / ED... |
| And Senjougahara jumps right back in as number 1 girl...this harem is competitive. And now we know it was the nice kitty cat that destroyed her home. |
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| Great episode, I really enjoyed that one. Awesome fanservice, interesting and sometimes funny conversation. If this continues like this it'll be the first time Monogatari gets a 10/10 from me :3 |
| I love these dumb characters so much :) |
| Usually I don't care much about fanservice, but this shower scene was hot. |
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| "I've never known anyone to not use dressing before." You and me both, Senjyogahara. Hanekawa really will just take everything as it comes. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| This episode went by real fast! That shower scene though. Like, it was erotic but in a weirdly classy way. Plus, I liked the way Hanekawa was narrating over it since she really seems to admire Senjougahara. |
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| Holy shit. That shower scene of Hanekawa and Hitagi. I can't even. That was so hot. It's like they made love or just a heavy petting. Lmfao. Is it just me who feels so awkward watching them talking together because of Araragi yeah? Where the hell is that guy anyway? Come out, Araragi! And just like that, the black neko this time is back since Hanekawa is stressed af for her family's house was burned down then she met that big-ass tiger and they had a brief fight, I guess? It doesn't look like he attacked her idk. She just sorta dodged outta nowhere. Aaaaand Hitagi finally met the neko version of Hanekawa. Omfg. This is gooooooood. How can this show make the "taste talk" a very interesting one? Forfucksake. This is one of the many reasons why I fucking love this show. |
     "Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪  ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| Yeah Senjougahara and Hanekawa fingerbanged in that shower. The BD version basically confirms it. So does that mean Araragi has a potential threesome waiting for him or was he cucked? |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Such a great episode, and Black Hanekawa back! also.. the shower scene dayum. Though now I am hungry after that whole cooking ordeal. |
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| I would be 100% down to see Black Hanekawa vs Giant Tiger Apparition. Also that was some pretty heated food discussion lol |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| The shower scene was definitely a nice surprise :D The only thing we know about the tiger is that it's the cause of Hanekawa's house burning down because she happened to have seen him once. Hmm... The relationship and interactions between these two are really nice to watch. They both love Araragi, but does Hanekawa really love him? Is her taste in food the same as her "taste" in people? Was Araragi just a guy that was there? Does she even consider Senjougahara her friend? Hanekawa is such an interesting character. |
| I see now. The missing chapter is about what Black Hanekawa is doing. Right, Tsubasa is being too extreme as a goody two shoes. Sometimes she need to make a choice between accept and reject. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| An interesting start to the episode, showing Hanekawa and Senjougahara lying in bed together. They slept until 1:30 PM? Not bad, but I've done better. That bathroom scene was quite interesting. Senjougahara pleading with Hanekawa to get in the futon with her was amusing. I learned today that an Electra Complex is a thing. Hanekawa saying she hasn't said "good night" in a long time was sad to hear. Hanekawa being so welcome to shit-talking Araragi was beautiful. I never would have guessed that the skipped chapters were just Black Hanekawa fucking around. Interesting decision by Shaft, showing us Black Hanekawa insert the key in her cleavage. Wonder what the tiger meant when he said that he was the same time of aberration as Black Hanekawa. Does he have the power to control the body of someone who saw him or something? Senjougahara has balls, shaking hands after being reminded of the Energy Drain. I like Senjougahara's jogging outfit. Was that seriously like a seven-minute conversation about flavor toppings? I'm not gonna bother questioning it. Can't imagine never using any form of flavoring. |
| I remember enjoying the unique direction and presentation of the Monogatari series when I watched Bakemonogatari & also enjoyed Nise, despite its controversial nature. However, it's been a year or two since I returned to the show, and honestly... I feel conflicted. I know I'm only two episodes in, but I wonder if the novelty of the direction/presentation of the series is starting to wear off on me. Though I felt hints of this before, in this episode I couldn't help but feel mildly frustrated by the often pointless seeming, meandering conversations. I get the sense that usually there's at least something to tie the dialogue together or that perhaps little revelations are made here and there throughout the dialogue, but I can't help but wonder if it's really enough. It's beginning to feel tedious listening to, for the most part, relatively uninteresting and elusive dialogue. Style over substance, it feels like. That's not to say there haven't been good moments in dialogue and character development so far in the show that I've watched (as that seems to be one of the main selling points), but I hope they're not sprinkled across the show too lightly going forward. It really is a shame, because I remember the novelty of the show and Shaft's art/direction really captivating me when I started with the anime a couple years back. I'll endeavor to keep watching of course, but I hope the prospect of watching more episodes doesn't begin to feel like a tedious chore. |
_Aisu said: I remember enjoying the unique direction and presentation of the Monogatari series when I watched Bakemonogatari & also enjoyed Nise, despite its controversial nature. However, it's been a year or two since I returned to the show, and honestly... I feel conflicted. I know I'm only two episodes in, but I wonder if the novelty of the direction/presentation of the series is starting to wear off on me. Though I felt hints of this before, in this episode I couldn't help but feel mildly frustrated by the often pointless seeming, meandering conversations. I get the sense that usually there's at least something to tie the dialogue together or that perhaps little revelations are made here and there throughout the dialogue, but I can't help but wonder if it's really enough. It's beginning to feel tedious listening to, for the most part, relatively uninteresting and elusive dialogue. Style over substance, it feels like. That's not to say there haven't been good moments in dialogue and character development so far in the show that I've watched (as that seems to be one of the main selling points), but I hope they're not sprinkled across the show too lightly going forward. It really is a shame, because I remember the novelty of the show and Shaft's art/direction really captivating me when I started with the anime a couple years back. I'll endeavor to keep watching of course, but I hope the prospect of watching more episodes doesn't begin to feel like a tedious chore. I had similar thoughts, even considered dropping the show altogether. The first arc is indeed lacking but, believe me, it gets better. Even so far as at the end of this arc (episodes 4-5) it gets a nice resolution and character development for Hanekawa. The following story after this is noticeably better, pretty much on the level of Bakemonogatari. Also, if you are not set on watching in release order I suggest checking out Kizumonogatari prequel as it gets referenced later on and is actually the best part of Monogatari series I've seen yet. Watching it at this point might bring more understanding and enjoyment out of the rest of the series. So, just endure it for a time being and move on to another part. I hope it helps. |
Ten said: I had similar thoughts, even considered dropping the show altogether. The first arc is indeed lacking but, believe me, it gets better. Even so far as at the end of this arc (episodes 4-5) it gets a nice resolution and character development for Hanekawa. The following story after this is noticeably better, pretty much on the level of Bakemonogatari. Also, if you are not set on watching in release order I suggest checking out Kizumonogatari prequel as it gets referenced later on and is actually the best part of Monogatari series I've seen yet. Watching it at this point might bring more understanding and enjoyment out of the rest of the series. So, just endure it for a time being and move on to another part. I hope it helps. Thanks for the response! I'll definitely consider watching Kizumonogatari before I continue with this season. As I understand it, Kizu was actually the second released book? So I guess there's probably not too much point in following the anime release order instead in this case. I'm not ready to completely ditch the series yet, just a bit disappointed that I found it hard to maintain interest in these past couple of episodes. It's at least good to hear that it gets better later into the season. |
| What is the tiger tho |
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| Hot shower scene! Senjougahara has seem maturing and is now more open. While Hanekawa still struggles. Their conversations are really enjoyable and good, especially the one at the end which was quite interesting. |
| The OP and ED are pretty good, and the visuals for the OP are really good, like they're really good. Aye Black Hanekawa, but with short hair this time. Judging from her conversation with the tiger, I think the tiger causes "harm" to whoever sees it. Also tiger be pretty strong, but I guess that's just a apparition for you. Senjougahara kinda just played Hanekawa there, looking forward to seeing this play out. |
arcticmontysSep 7, 2020 1:56 PM
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| Quite interesting making this anime a bit of yuri I'm actually interested on the Tiger:> So Senjougahara can cook what a perfect waifu, still I want to see Araragi since he hasn't show yet so I wonder what happened to him. The opening was actually very good I can't skip it :) This was a very good episode I really enjoyed it a lot<3 |
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| Now that was a good quality episode. I love how much they can argue over something so small as taste preference and their perception of food. LOL. There were many good moments during the whole ep. One of them without any doubt was the showering scene. Senjougahara is a real teaser. Some nice highlights: Looks like we are not done with the meddlecat and she came back in this season too. The ear flip scene was just adorable that I had to record the fragment Her encounter with Tiger was also interesting. Makes one wonder what Tiger's power is. I really thought they would avoid the topic of the Araragi love issue between them, but I am glad Senjougahara took it up in the end with that serious face . Now that's great art, wow. It's gonna be interesting to see how this is going to turn out in the next ep. |
mangalicker94Oct 16, 2020 5:06 PM
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PoeticJustice said: Kaioshin_Sama said: These are the kinds of episodes I completely fail to see the point of. Badly drawn fanservice shower scenes and dress up just doesn't do it for me and I've seen these antics from this series enough times to really not feel the need for any more of it. Probably the end for me if this keeps up into next episode. It seems like you already disliked the series, so it makes no sense why you would continue to watch it. To be a contrarian perhaps? On a different note, now your signature (twerking Sasuge) is really hilarious. xD |
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Grouchio said: Orevataf said: If she tells N-NO! DON'T WATCH AN ANIME CALLED BOKU!!! Paul said: Brush her teeth. N-NO! WHY THE FLYING **** WOULD I DO THAT?! I'M NOT A BLOODY SISCON! SHE'S MY TWIN SISTER! Damnit you guys aren't helping! ;( Give her a slap on the butt. xD |
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| Another fantastic episode! Damn, how did I not realize that the skipped chapters was because of Black Hanekawa manifesting, that's pretty fucking clever. Loved Black Hanekawa's interaction with the Tiger, I wonder what that aberration does besides burn down houses I guess. That shower scene though holy shit. I am really enjoying these Senjougahara and Hanekawa episodes. You got jebaited there Hanekawa, so if you like everything then what does that make Araragi-kun? Based Senjougahara. |
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| Monogatari is probably the only anime to make an appetite sound interesting. Great episode. That Tiger seems strong. Damn, never expected Black Hanekawa to meet Senjougahara. It's fucking clever to use the missing chapters as Black Hanekawa's manifestataion. God bless Shinbou! Also, the "bonding time", is peak-fiction. |
| The shower scene had some extreme yuri vibes. So the skipped chapters were the moments where black Hanekawa manifests... that's pretty clever! This ep was just as enjoyable as the first and the part where hitagi talks about Hanekawa accepting everything and everyone in her life was quite interesting and true. |
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| Senjougahara the master interrogator |
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Wonderful dialogue with Senjougahara and Hanekawa. Music was really sweet in this episode too. Some cool poses but I felt like the episode's animation/cinematography wasn't quite as impressive as usual, the scene with Black Hanekawa and the tiger having a talk, at least, didn't see like it did much like other one on one talks do. Black Hanekawa's appearance was a lot of fun! I forgot about the chapter skipping quirk, haha. Senjougahara's so much fun, awesome character. |
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| The way Senjougahara psycho-analyzed Tsubasa like that was kinda... I would best not complete that. They do look like a pretty good couple though. Or they would if Tsubasa used seasoning coz oof food without seasoning(when you HAVE seasoning) is quite rough. |
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| Senjougahara-san would make a good detective lol.. the way she analyzed hanekawa's character just by her cooking, if she uses seasoning or not. Bathroom scene was something just out of a hentai i already expected to see some steamy scenes but damn!! What's with the Tiger aberration? is it connected with hanekawa. Hanekawa waking up to some skipped chapters will always be my one of favourite Fourth wall breaking trope. |
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