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Jan 19, 2018 10:04 AM

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destructo22 said:
Thanks for some insight on this one.

I have to correct my previous comment actually. Here is a write-up he actually did on that translation issue on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/7rh2ug/the_case_for_fansubs/dsx4iv7.

So apparently Asenshi's may be a bit closer, but the actual Japanese lines are nebulous and when I listened to the French dub, they even translated it a little different as well. So it seems like a confusing statement regardless of the language.
Jan 19, 2018 11:00 AM

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If anyone else was confused by the "calling out another girl's name in bed" scene with Cattleya and Hodgins, Netflix's translation fucked up.

Cattleya and Hodgins don't have an intimate relationship already, nor did he call out "Claudia" in bed. Hodgins' real given name is Claudia—his parents wanted a girl. Cattleya is saying that it would be embarrassing, hypothetically/teasingly, for her to call that name out in bed.

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Jan 19, 2018 11:21 AM

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CatSoul said:
If anyone else was confused by the "calling out another girl's name in bed" scene with Cattleya and Hodgins, Netflix's translation fucked up.

Cattleya and Hodgins don't have an intimate relationship already, nor did he call out "Claudia" in bed. Hodgins' real given name is Claudia—his parents wanted a girl. Cattleya is saying that it would be embarrassing, hypothetically/teasingly, for her to call that name out in bed.

Who's to say which one is correct? That image only tells me there's a discrepancy. If you happen to speak Japanese, then I would love some more clarification on that scene.
Jan 19, 2018 11:23 AM

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FMmatron said:


She's such a Boa Hancock look alike.

Really nice episode again,even better than the first one for me,getting the feel for this show and I can relate to Violets struggle.


Oh my god! You're right! XD
Jan 19, 2018 11:36 AM
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This show is extremely overrated just because kyoani is doing it


The episode was BORING
Jan 19, 2018 11:55 AM
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I felt this episode lasted for hours and hours, that's a bad sign imo I just wanted to finish lol, it was boring, dull and uneventful, felt like the 2nd episode of Overlord II :/ of course I'm not gonna drop Overlord but some people hyped me about this show and so far I'm underwhelmed, I guess I'll give episode 3 a try before, maybe dropping it.
Jan 19, 2018 12:01 PM

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zzshcl said:
This show is extremely overrated just because kyoani is doing it


The episode was BORING

Or maybe it's because, ya know, people enjoy different things than you. Mind blowing, I know.
Jan 19, 2018 12:39 PM

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It was a good episode. The first episode i actually watched without knowing what this anime was about and cause it was related with war i even thought we would see fights and stuff.

This second episode i watched with the right mindset and i actually like it quite a bit.

The problem is that this show was so overhyped that now we will see this forum filled with people complaining it being "overrated" or bad and this gets tiring too fast.
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Jan 19, 2018 1:15 PM

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I am really liking this. They are taking their time to establish things. There is no clear "we need to do this, this and this to reach the end goal". We're simply following Violet's new work as she tries to understand complex human emotions and speech. The characters are obviously not a focus (except for Violet) but they have been established well. They don't feel like "anime characters", if you know what I mean. It's refreshing. And it does help that this anime is so pretty to look at. Will continue.
Jan 19, 2018 1:57 PM
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I haven't read the source material but the story seems to be well written up to this point, however it really needs to start getting interesting now. These incredibly slow first two episodes are making it hard to get into as is already, and I can't blame people for calling this show boring, simply because it really isn't that enjoyable of a watch so far. But I love the atmosphere of this show, very heartwarming.

If I had to rate this show based on the first two episodes, I'd give it a 6/10. Definitely going to keep watching.
Jan 19, 2018 2:15 PM

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So if I understand this correctly from the glasses girl explanation the first original Dolls were indeed machines and humans took up that role later. Just what kind of past Violet has that made her into a "machine" even though she is human. Was she already like this when Gilbert's asshole brother picked her up as a present?

I hope they expand on this more.

Edit: Also how the hell do they have so advanced artificial limbs when the story seems to be set in a WW2 like era lol.
Jan 19, 2018 2:36 PM
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RealityRush said:
zzshcl said:
This show is extremely overrated just because kyoani is doing it


The episode was BORING

Or maybe it's because, ya know, people enjoy different things than you. Mind blowing, I know.


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Jan 19, 2018 2:45 PM

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I like this show a lot so far. I wouldn't say it's boring at all.
Jan 19, 2018 2:59 PM
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This series so far (in a lot of ways), is reminding me of when Hyouka aired.

Sadly for me there is one little difference. I loved every minute of Hyouka, it is not the same with VE.

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And why the riding boots must be with similar design as the persian ones?
I am just theorizing where the tradition came from and that they may symbolize something different in this world.
Jan 19, 2018 3:12 PM

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It was kind of a boring episode. And Violet is so awkward, I don't think I like her as a main character... she alright but not very interesting.
Jan 19, 2018 4:40 PM

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Hodgins says that "He's not coming back", which doesn't necessarily confirm that Gilbert is dead. There are five things I can think of, in order of likelihood.

1. Gilbert is in a coma.
2. Gilbert is alive but is so psychologically devastated, he'll never be himself again.
3. Gilbert is actually a traitor, and Hodgins can't bear to tell Violet that man she loved betrayed them.
4. Gilbert is MIA, possibly captured by the enemy nation and still in custody after the truce.
5. Gilbert is actually dead.

Not much else to say about the episode, though it was cool to see that the pub decorated in flowers that Hodgins went to is based off of the Churchill Arms in London.
Jan 19, 2018 4:44 PM

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icontinuetofight said:


in the synopsys of the novel the dolls aren't humans, but in the anime there's no mention about it yet.

i didn't read the novel so idk if it's true


This episode pretty much explained what are dolls. They are hired living breathing human beings (I think only women) to write for those who cannot write. It was explained by Erica through her monologues how the term dolls came to be.


that's why i asked if the anime is original content already.

the synopsys of the novel says the dolls are products and they can be manufactured. violet is one of them
Jan 19, 2018 5:07 PM

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sherpico said:
...this one seems anything but mature. It wants to be, with its themes of war, suffering, and Love™ but it all comes off like a teenager's unrealistic, overly romanticized conception of those things.

+1

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this anime...
Expectation: about war veteran Violet recovering from war PTSD and getting some love drama or something like that.
Reality: about legit autistic, socially inept toddler Violet learning some social etiquette, tact and common sense (with drama).

and that ending song's singer sounds absolutely awful btw. remove the vocal and the song might actually be really good.

+1 The problem is the main character is probably the least interesting one in this show. And most of the other characters aren't good too.

I don't know what it is but this anime feels awkward to me, like they are trying to make a drama but are bad at that. Random fanservice based on anime tropes doesn't help either, quite contrary. Everything is just unintersting, false and meh... Why should I even care about those characters?

But the problem of this show is mainly the writing, the story just feels so empty and the dialogues lacks some clever twist. I honestly can't see any masterpiece in here, dunno why so many people hyped about this anime.
Jan 19, 2018 6:10 PM

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icontinuetofight said:
shanimebib said:


This episode pretty much explained what are dolls. They are hired living breathing human beings (I think only women) to write for those who cannot write. It was explained by Erica through her monologues how the term dolls came to be.


that's why i asked if the anime is original content already.

the synopsys of the novel says the dolls are products and they can be manufactured. violet is one of them


The heck?! You mean the one in MAL? If you mean the MAL synopsis then it's not correct. Whoever wrote that synopsis must have just come up with their own idea. There is nowhere mentioned that Auto Memoir Dolls are machines. In the original synopsis, the machine that is talked about is basically the typewriter. And Auto Memoir Dolls are those who provide typewriting service.

I am translating the novel synopsis from the official website:

The name 'Jidou Shuki Ningyou' (Auto Memoir Doll) came to be a long time ago. Dr. Orlando developed a machine capable of recording words from natural human voice. Although, originally it was built just for his beloved wife, it gained popularity all over the world; and thereon formed organizations those would lend such machines as means of service.

"I rush to wherever I am needed by my clients. Auto Memoir Doll at your service; I am Violet Evergarden." a sweetly ringing voice with robotic beauty, parts from a beautiful blue-eyed blonde woman as if she jumped right out from a tale.


Now I know where the confusions came from.
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Jan 19, 2018 6:56 PM
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I didn’t like Erica and Iris. The episode would’ve been better without Erica’s depressing scenes.
Jan 19, 2018 7:44 PM
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I mean ... Violet is cute and all ... but she's kinda annoying right now.

Outisde of the episode being good looking, it was pretty bleh overall.

Hope it gets better.
Jan 19, 2018 10:30 PM

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God DAMN THIS ANIME LOOK GOOD... And luckily for me, I'm enjoying this quite a bit. Seems quite a few of the people here were a tad dissatisfied with this, and that's understandable. This ain't exactly the hype master piece I was waiting 2-3 years for, but I don't think it's by any means bad, just not what was expected. Again though, luckily for me, I can pretty easily find enjoyment in slower paced anime at times.
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Jan 19, 2018 11:16 PM

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Honestly this show just isn't fair. They just put the tunes on relatable scenario's to play with the kokoro!!
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Jan 19, 2018 11:19 PM
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Hodgins says that "He's not coming back", which doesn't necessarily confirm that Gilbert is dead. There are five things I can think of, in order of likelihood.

1. Gilbert is in a coma.
2. Gilbert is alive but is so psychologically devastated, he'll never be himself again.
3. Gilbert is actually a traitor, and Hodgins can't bear to tell Violet that man she loved betrayed them.
4. Gilbert is MIA, possibly captured by the enemy nation and still in custody after the truce.
5. Gilbert is actually dead.

Not much else to say about the episode, though it was cool to see that the pub decorated in flowers that Hodgins went to is based off of the Churchill Arms in London.


Hope 3 or 4 are true because that would be hella fun or intense. I mean if it's 1 or 2, that's pretty obvious but understandable. And 5 could possibly happen, but I hope not. I really want him to be alive! But at the same time, I wish Violet learns how to accept the people who are around her throughout the series soon.

Jan 20, 2018 3:00 AM
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Enjoying the show so far, but Violet keeps reminding me of Sousuke from FMP.
Jan 20, 2018 3:09 AM

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So people can't find a different reason to criticise the show than "the XYZ don't suit my taste"?
Jan 20, 2018 4:59 AM
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It was boring. Just it, not annoying / unbearable, just boring. If two first eps of a 14 (or 13?) ep long series bring so little then I'm out.

Am I the only one that noticed the postman walking (and riding a motorcycle!) in such high heels? No wonder girls reject him, they're jealous of his skills.
Jan 20, 2018 5:27 AM

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Cattleya is just so hot !!. One of the best looking woman in anime. It she had nice boobs also !!


Also, it was not boring as some people say. Violet was acting funny in this episode

Jan 20, 2018 8:20 AM

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Violet and Benedict made me laugh so hard in this episode.
"WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?"
"She's Erica" LOL

Then when Benedict was trying to get the reception girls to eat with him and the only one who would was the deliver man, those tears in his eyes had me crying tears of laughter lol.

Oh okay I like the flirting going on with Cattleya and Hodgins. Though why Hodgins wouldn't oblige to her is fucking mind boggling.

Benedict watching those two was pretty funny as well lol.

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Jan 20, 2018 8:33 AM

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Nice episode, but nothing too special or remarkable
Jan 20, 2018 9:49 AM
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Kyoani designs are getting way too detailed for their own good. The animation suffers from it, look at most 'sakuga' moments episode 2 had. Either 1-2 second close ups or layouts using basic one-point perspective, with the camera perpendicular to the actors ( example ), same with episode 1, it all feels very flat, specially with that global gray filter, it does nothing but crush the shadows and limit the color range of the scene. They never play with foreshortening and I get why, rotating the mecha hand for example, and playing with perspective with such a detailed design would take a long time, the first cut of this took a month to animate, a goddam month:
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/ce98eeca27b2f3619117c0726513cfd4.mp4

Take a look at this scene, the detail in the mecha or the pilot's hand aren't as complex as Violet designs but notice how it uses foreshortening and perspective, notice how the shadows are actual shadows, they give more depth to the image
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/3edf0ac12f89339976fc7038b3c91da0.webm

This scene pretty much describes Violet Evergarden's animation, extreme 1-2 second close ups, and when that's not the case, the camera is mostly perpendicular to the actors, so that the animators won't have to work so hard figuring out the correct perspective and placement of all those intricate details in the characters.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/930de751fef4783b040708b08037c7ac.mp4

Violet may very well be Kyoani show with the highest production values, but all those 'values' were misplaced and didn't hit the mark, the art, shot composition and animation are polished but very tame, nothing stands out, the direction is mediocre. I've found that most people praising the animation in this show are mistaking background art and character detail with actual animation.
Jan 20, 2018 12:32 PM

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Better than 1st ep.
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Jan 20, 2018 2:22 PM

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I want to know what "I love you" mean. That signature line hits me each time I hear it.

Start to love this story more and more. Could develop into one of my fav animes.

What a beautiful and funny episode too. The soundtrack is so beautiful and fitting too. Can't unterstand the negative comments here.
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Jan 20, 2018 3:10 PM

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Another great episode.

OK, the president didn't SAY Gilbert was DEAD so I'm gonna hope he's actually alive for now (hope this anime doesn't break my heart later though...)

Also will there be no opening and ending?? I was really looking forward to the op/ed but all we see is Netflix at the beginning and end of each episode and that sucks :(


Jan 20, 2018 5:47 PM

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Sooo goooooood. Very touching T____T
Jan 20, 2018 6:44 PM

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I think that anime is doing a pretty good job in setting up its characters and plot. Everything feels natural and not to mention the beautiful aesthetics while I can understand how people would get bored over this, I think it's one of the more enjoyable shows of the season compared to the others and I watched more boring shit than this. Also why the hell does Minori Chihara's voice here sound to vocaloid'ish not a fan :l Guess a lot of people picked this up due to the hype that surrounds it even if it doesn't interest them
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The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

Meh... kind of dragging already...
This is far from a hard-hitting drama.
LOL that letter.

So much for "most anticipated" anime. What if it turns out to be a lemon? Lemon Evergarden. You heard it first here folks!
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Good god, just tell her the Major is dead already. Dragging it out like this will just hurt her far more when you finally decide to.
Jan 20, 2018 8:37 PM

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Uh, that's chau meing and sweet&sour pork . . . chinese, not yakisoba.
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What have I just done?

This Violet girl would probably reply, with hands in her back: "Sir! You just spent 23 minutes watching a psychopathic girl with no humanity and emotions what-so-ever trying to figure out what her commander's last words meant, sir!

I find Violet to be completely emotionless and unrelatable. There better be a really good reason / back story why the main character is behaving like this...

Jan 21, 2018 6:34 AM
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I'm enjoying the show so far but I wouldn't mind it if things started moving a bit faster tho.
Jan 21, 2018 7:19 AM

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What have I just done?

This Violet girl would probably reply, with hands in her back: "Sir! You just spent 23 minutes watching a psychopathic girl with no humanity and emotions what-so-ever trying to figure out what her commander's last words meant, sir!

I find Violet to be completely emotionless and unrelatable. There better be a really good reason / back story why the main character is behaving like this...




I don't think knowing the reason behind her emotionless nature is the important thing. Rather, learning those emotions is more important. She may be slow at it, but it doesn't she's completely incapable of knowing them.



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Jan 21, 2018 7:42 AM

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This anime is very good looking, well sasuga Kyoani

Tbh, for all the hype the series itself is pretty underwhelming
im not a novel-reader but after watching trailer, pretty sure a lot of people expecting more, including me... it's understandable misleading trailer ? LUL but it turns out to be emotionless Saber learns about emotion as a typewriter with slice of life after war-drama. Seriously, no one tells her about love? or major's condition? for what? moar drama? trust me, if she know about major she'll cry and know instantly what "sadness" and "love" are without wasting 13 eps

Well it's ok for me tho so far, but not special



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Jan 21, 2018 8:16 AM

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Getting the feeling Kyoani doesn't know how to write interesting women.
Jan 21, 2018 8:21 AM

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Violet Evergarden isn't what I thought it would be. But I still like the route it's taking. Seriously, tho - Violet is annoying.
Jan 21, 2018 8:53 AM
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is erika anime original because we really didn't need another awkward character. seriously watching her and violet try to strike a conversation with overly-dramatic sad music and obligatory rain was hair pulling. episode 1 was fine but this is argh.
Jan 21, 2018 9:43 AM

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i don't like this anime because it's bad
wow really i thought people don't like stuff because it's good ,hmmm got to see some new shit stuff thnx
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Jan 21, 2018 9:43 AM

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Can some one spoil me about Gilbert is he dead ? It's ok if you spoil me
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Jan 21, 2018 10:00 AM

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and I thought Magus' Bride was overhyped nope this one wins, there's literally nothing good about this anime besides animations
Jan 21, 2018 2:56 PM

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Kyoani designs are getting way too detailed for their own good. The animation suffers from it, look at most 'sakuga' moments episode 2 had. Either 1-2 second close ups or layouts using basic one-point perspective, with the camera perpendicular to the actors ( example ), same with episode 1, it all feels very flat, specially with that global gray filter, it does nothing but crush the shadows and limit the color range of the scene. They never play with foreshortening and I get why, rotating the mecha hand for example, and playing with perspective with such a detailed design would take a long time, the first cut of this took a month to animate, a goddam month:
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/ce98eeca27b2f3619117c0726513cfd4.mp4

Take a look at this scene, the detail in the mecha or the pilot's hand aren't as complex as Violet designs but notice how it uses foreshortening and perspective, notice how the shadows are actual shadows, they give more depth to the image
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/3edf0ac12f89339976fc7038b3c91da0.webm

This scene pretty much describes Violet Evergarden's animation, extreme 1-2 second close ups, and when that's not the case, the camera is mostly perpendicular to the actors, so that the animators won't have to work so hard figuring out the correct perspective and placement of all those intricate details in the characters.
https://www.sakugabooru.com/data/930de751fef4783b040708b08037c7ac.mp4

Violet may very well be Kyoani show with the highest production values, but all those 'values' were misplaced and didn't hit the mark, the art, shot composition and animation are polished but very tame, nothing stands out, the direction is mediocre. I've found that most people praising the animation in this show are mistaking background art and character detail with actual animation.


Indeed. People keep raving about how "amazing" the show looks - the art is certainly great, I'll give them that - but I'm not seeing what they're seeing. The show is quite static, and the characters are so incredibly detailed that what little animations there are look janky. It doesn't help that the colors have been washed by the ugly, dirty lens. I don't care if they are trying to replicate a "nostalgic" look; the picture quality simply looks bland.
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