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| Yo, I am avoiding spoilers so I won't check out these threads too much. But I just wanted to say as someone who loved the original anime, and then continued by reading the entirety of Umineko, I hope there will NOT be a crossover or something like that. I actually love Umineko more, but I think Higurashi was a story well contained in its own universe. References and parallels are cool, but I hope it won't become a whole "clusterfuck", ruining the original story. So far this anime is pretty enjoyable, and I like how it is mostly similar, but events are just different enough to hook someone like me who has seen the original. I am still very eager to find out just how much the story will deviate, and what future arcs will hold in store. And of course the series looks much better, at least when compared to the old season one. I like that they reuse some soundtracks, but someone in this thread was right, they don't use it to its full potential I guess. I just have to say, poor Rika can't catch a break. Now she's been put into a septic tank! As if dying wasn't bad enough, she now has to fucking rest among the feces of her beloved friends. How cruel. Ryukishi be like "You thought seeing these poor kids suffer was bad enough? Well now I threw them into a shit pit too, lol" I should really continue to read Ciconia soon, too... it just is so long-winded. But I guess I should be well over the half point now. |
ssjokg said: Byniavo said: That doesnt actually happen.So the arc ended after 4 episodes as expected. Ladder scene was good, but it wasn't scary like the 2006 version. At least K1 doesn't die in this arc... why not? Everyone is supposed to die some hours after Rika does, whether it be by the Hinamizawa syndrome or the Yamainu |
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Byniavo said: ssjokg said: That doesnt actually happen. why not? Everyone is supposed to die some hours after Rika does, whether it be by the Hinamizawa syndrome or the Yamainu |
ssjokg said: Byniavo said: why not? Everyone is supposed to die some hours after Rika does, whether it be by the Hinamizawa syndrome or the Yamainu oh yeah I forgot about that |
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| This new Higurashi is surprisingly tame compared to the OG. Maybe the lack of shock factor explains the low score (aside from people hating it because it's not the OG). |
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| Here's what I think happened: Anyway I love this it's just new question arcs for theorycrafting all over again. Also Keiichi survived for once yay |
| The more I watch of this the less engaged I am with it. I just think the direction is weak, and that the moments of tension and horror aren't being done justice. Like the bit with "Mion's" stare, it felt so disconnected. It was a separate shot and had its own filters and stuff, and the ladder shaking felt so comedic I could't take it seriously as a source of fear for K1, especially since he doesn't bring it up again. (Tho some folks are saying it was better in Gou than the OG so maybe I'll rewatch the two scenes to compare?) The only plus side is I did like the sort of political aspects and responsibility "Mion" felt she had. I'm interested in how Satoko was protrayed too and am wondering what'll be revealed about her Not sure I can be bothered to try and theorise this time. At this point I'm basically waiting on the answer arcs to be interesting and satisfying. That's the only reason I'll keep watching, and even with that I may stop :/ Oh well. |
| Rika(?) kinda exposing her power level as Bern too hard in this arc, she doesn't even seem like Rika Rika if that makes sense. Maybe the meta is like this is just one of Bern's fragments before Kai? Idk man, cool show love WTC! |
| So, people have kept that stupid barbaric shit alive????? Why???? Also, I can't trust anyone anymore on this show. Everybody's just insane and goes psycho, also, Rika and Mion being the head of two of the three families that started that thing???? Like, wft dude??? Did Mion murder her sister just because she was jealous or something???? Also, I can't tell anymore who is Mion and who is Shion Why did she lock Keiichi??? Is Mion just plain pyscho??? Why did she "fall in love" with Keiichi just because he gave her that doll? I am not understanding anything at all!!!! Everybody's evil and everybody's keeping secrets. I might drop this one. |
Mess with waifu, lose your laifu |
| Well, not knowing anything about Higurashi before except it had a lot of gore, I am so confused at what the heck is going. I guess I understand that there’s supposed to be some sort of theorizing, but I feel so stupid at not even being able to do that rn. All I know is that I felt kind of sad at the end of this arc, though I liked it more than the first one. Oh well, I’ll continue watching and see if things eventually make sense. |
| I think the director or author said in a tweet or interview that you could start higurashi here without watching the old anime series- Based on these last two posts, and just on how much of the mystery gets removed in this new series right off the bat, I could not disagree more |
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| The ladder scene from the OG stuck with me for many years. I thought it was frightening in that it showed Mion's face muscles conveying pure emotion. Mion's switch in the New version hit differently. Still effective. The rage in the voice acting felt very raw. 🖏 |
| I feel like there's something more important I should be doing. |
| Theory time! If Mion killed Rika and threw her in that thing, why would she be talking about how Rika is trying to kill people (present tense) and not how she was trying to (past tense). This makes it seem like Mion didn’t know she was dead even though it made it look like she was trying to stop Keiichi from finding the body. If Mion didnt kill her, who couldve? The people that were seen talking to her in the construction uniforms (Yamainu). Yamainu were also at Mion’s house because Keiichi saw them on the cameras. What if they came for Satoko, she escaped and ran to Mion’s place for help, and they chased her and killed both her and Mion in the hallway where they were discovered? Or Mion saw Satoko first on the camera and said “the minion is here” because she thought Satoko was out to get her (since she is going crazy, we saw the claw marks). Then she went up and killed Satoko (who was probably shitting herself from running away from the Yamainu and now having her friend shoot her in the head) and then the Yamainu burst in and killed Mion. There is two gunshot wounds to the head and only one gun laying on the floor. We know the Yamainu were there, so this could fill in some holes. |
WoodfallNov 24, 2020 10:38 PM
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FragOutFire said: I think the director or author said in a tweet or interview that you could start higurashi here without watching the old anime series- Based on these last two posts, and just on how much of the mystery gets removed in this new series right off the bat, I could not disagree more None of the mystery is removed. Old fans just have the privilege of knowing the secrets of the first 2 seasons(+ meta of Umineko). Who knows if we are even in the right path or just following red herring tho. |
| Nice subtle shoutouts to Higanbana in this arc hehe. |
| Well, this was the first episode to really catch my interest beyond a couple bits and pieces prior. The resolution to arc 1 didn’t really add any new mystery to Higurashi and the only major questions were Tokyo/Takano and Tomitake leaving/the clinic packing up (and wherever that Rika scene in episode 2 fits in). Now, we have some tangible mystery on our hands. I don’t know if I think either Sonozaki actually killed Rika — the Yamainu seem like at least believable culprits and Higurashi loves distracting us from the core machinations with someone losing it. I also don’t know if I think Mion (at least I assume it’s actually Mion) was the one to kill everyone in the well or Satoko, but it’s hard to say anything until we get the answer arc. I will say, with Shion supposedly in the well, I can’t help but think about how she almost jumped into it to ‘join Satoshi’ in the original. I actually wonder if it switched which sister when ‘Mion’ comes back with the tea since she’s wearing a different outfit iirc. Perhaps it even followed the original second arc mostly up until that point? I’m fairly confident it’s Mion at the end at least — she says something about how Keiichi made her feel like a girl, but anything beforehand is fair game. Very curious what Mion could’ve meant by ‘the minion’ — it seems heavily implied that this is Satoko. If so, I expect we’re going to get a much clearer understanding next chapter. I suspect Satoko may have been the Yamainu’s target since I can’t understand why Mion would be. I also suspect Satoko might’ve killed Mion for some reason and then got killed by the Yamainu — no real reason other than I don’t expect anything to be what it looked like. However, none of this explains the actions of the Yamainu — do they believe someone else is the you-know-what in this world? Something’s weird with Rika. I can’t understand why she’d be despairing like she did to Keiichi about how everything is hopeless unless she’s been at this for a while again — which might explain her relative non-intervention so far. I’d expect her to try and fight hard to win after Rei, and I’d expect her to try gathering the gang after Kai — her doing neither implies there’s something more going on. My easiest guess is that episode 2 scene is a very different point in time, probably a while before these arcs. (Another 100 years?) No Hanyuu may also be serving to discourage her, or a reduced ability to communicate with Hanyuu at least. However, I’m more suspicious than that. Is it possible for Rika to not have everyone’s best interests at heart? Her harsh dismissive reaction to Keiichi seemed off, and she looks pretty... sinister this time around. For instance, in arc 1... what if she was actually aware Rena was going off the rails and wanted Keiichi to trust Rena in this version of the story for a ‘worse’ outcome or to instead breed distrust? Building memories promoting distrust instead of trust would be another interesting parallel to the original, and kinda feeds into the resolution of this arc. Also with that in mind, what if she fed something manipulative to Mion or Shion this time? Whichever Sonozaki sister being distrustful of Rika specifically is odd (the ladder scene), and I have to assume there’s a reason here other than just being contrarian. (Maybe they did actually see her with the Yamainu and Rika gave them some sort of order against Satoko or the Sonozakis? If Shion also learned from the past, she’d try to protect Satoko right?) Whether it’s grounded in reality is one thing but... I don’t know, I’m watching her closely from now on. |
MistralsNov 26, 2020 6:53 AM
| maebara "steel shoulders" keiichi |
| Mion went absolute ape shit...Rika went crazy and everyone is dead....yeah good luck Kei-chan |
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| this was the episode i was anticipating the most, well the scene - if you’ve seen the og higurashi you know how hilarious the ladder scene is lmao i do feel very mixed on this episode. there were times when it was great but then at times it had me like :/ it honestly felt very rushed, like they tried to shove 2-3 episodes in one. another big part thing for me is the score, i feel like the music didn’t match in a few scenes. i did get hyped though when that song from the og started playing during keiichi and mion’s talk in her house - that’s my jam bro!! |
LunoireNov 28, 2020 6:31 PM
| This left us with more questions than answers. Also wow no OP/ED. |
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| It felt too dragged out. But mion is pretty badass. |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| She didn't need to kill all those people. Keiichi could just stay there in his cell. However, that'll be ruthless. |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| I forgot the first two arcs were question arcs. |
| Well, K1 lives the arc again lol. At least the plot armor doesn't matter. In any case good arc. |
| "Enjoyable" ending for this arc, but to discuss it further, I will have to use spoilers tags, even THOUGH, newcomers to the series should have watched previous stuff before this... First, let me address thus far I have yet to be scared or feel anything of such similarity. No matter what Ryukishi07 is changing about the truth, to a point, it still has to reflect on what we fans know, so watching those "scary" scenes leaves me with a tinge of sadness, from all these misfortunes )born from a lack of knowledge and communication), than anything else Arkaisen said: I’m glad Mion finally told Keichi that she loved him, but man this episode was tense. I’m still pretty confused about what happened to Rika, but I assume Mion went on a rampage of sorts and cleared out anyone who could be a threat to Keichi. Need that type of love. Spoilers about Higurashi S2 ahead: that Mion loved him, wanted to see the person itself to do the act. |
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| Nah, I take back what I said about the last episode. The execution is truly terrible. The arcs are the same length as they were in the original and yet the pacing seems so much more rushed. So many important developments are basically completely skipped, so everything seems incredibly random and dumb. And K1 still looks like a 12 year old loli with this art style. I hate it. I'll try to stop complaining every episode and just comment on the actual developments lol. I am truly enjoying the new content in these arcs but the poor execution and ill fitting art style are very distracting. Anyway. It's interesting that Rika was kidnapped by 'a guy in a construction uniform', aka Also, it seems like in this version Mion I swear I can physically feel my brain getting dumber and dumber as I get older, my deduction skills are basically gone. Maybe I should've rewatched the original before this. |
iiKrinaJun 24, 2021 4:02 PM
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ssjokg said: From the start I assumed it was Shion discussed as Mion. But the "i love you Kei-chan" threw me off. Unless if Shion wanted to make Keichi remember Mion or just listen to her and stay there. Her line when she looked at the monitor is also weird.Who is "their minion"?. If it was Shion in the monitor room then the obvious answer is Mion, the "next head=minion".This could also work if they didnt . But one of them was already dead, as we find out at the end, so that's not it. The Yamainu are the minion maybe? The gun next to the bodies of Satoko and Mion(lets go with the name we were given) isnt the same one Mion left with. And obvious scratches on Mion's neck. Maybe it is a bit far fetched since nobody except Rika should know, but the minion was Satoko since she is "works" with the Yamainu? Surprised K1 survived. Back to the twins and their switcheroos, I dont see how Mion could have a motive like that now and not in all other kakera. What was the trigger? If it was Shion I can see how unlike her sister she would do that since it isnt just Satoshi's fate that made her lose it in the OG. Speaking of Satoshi, the story again avoided mentioning him with just saying "Satoko's family". So for now I go with Shion killed the others and decided to fix the village. Satoshi's fate is irrelevant in her scheme. I am not sure about the heart of it all tho. Is her personality+HS enough for that? That doesnt answer why she killed Satoko after talking about what happened to them and doesnt explain the obviously different gun. We also dont know how long it took for the police to come to the mansion. For all we know Shion, Mion and Satoko were killed by a third part, Shion was then dumped into the well in an effort to frame her twin. Not having dead body confirmations in red sure is a bitch. sigh...and as if that isnt enough everyone's favorite uncle comes next..... EDIT:The ladder scene was so much better than the original. Maybe now you know about the gun... |
| Hasn't Rika suffered enough? Now she even had to rot in a pile of shit. |
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| "You're gonna stay here for a while, starting right now" - Casually walks in front of her ready to get pushed in ... |
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| Hmm this was quite similar to the old one I guess? But not completely? Still boring to watch everything again with so little changes. |
| Oh cool, another anticlimatic ending. At this point this feels more like a parody of Higurashi. |
 MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO. |
| This was the point where I could not really tell if that was Mion in the underground scene. But then again, I never thought Mion has the guts to confess her love so I am very skeptical. |
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