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Feb 8, 2024 5:14 PM

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oh my god, that was so brutal. i can feel for the bad guy but he seriously got carried away. the idea of being lost to the void is awful, and now he got his penance i guess.
Feb 8, 2024 5:37 PM
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Damn, I shouldn't have praised it right before they introduce one of the most comically stupid villains (and give a dumb lecture about souls that doesn't make any sense), but whatever ...

I am curious. Considering that death and souls are some of the great mysteries, what doesn't make sense to you about the stories explanation?
Feb 8, 2024 5:43 PM

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This was an awesome episode.

It was pretty brutal, not gonna lie, but the necromancer had it coming to him.

The world-building was great, as we learned about how resurrection works and what the human soul goes through.

I didn't expect Phanora to be a witch and Johan to be an undead, but it fits the dynamic.
Feb 8, 2024 7:33 PM

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  • The animation looked cheap. The show was like a picture book sometimes. It was stressed by adding the scroll around the window frame.
  • Also it's unclear how the protagonist punished the criminal.
Feb 8, 2024 7:44 PM

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Very interesting lore, exciting undead horror, attractive characters.

If only the animation was of higher quality. I wish the undead vs. undead battle and the necromancer's fate were drawn and animated a lot crazier and nastier to really sell this dark, dark story, but then I guess they would have to contend with the ratings board (?) too.
Feb 8, 2024 7:54 PM

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Well this episode is the definition of satisfying. It wasn't particularly original when it came to the storyline and the villain was incredibly ugly and despicable, but it sure was enjoyable to watch. Phanora doubling as a necromancer and a witch threw me off, but my guess of Johan already being undead is correct. Wish the animation was better when she called her undead servants, but it was still pretty chilling to watch. I'm glad she's giving the villain the punishment he deserves. I'm guessing we'll switch back to the main duo in the next episode, which is a shame considering I like these two and their chemistry much more.


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Feb 8, 2024 7:58 PM

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necromancy really is horrifying, they are damned forever.

The guy was truly despicable.....and oh crap shes a witch.
Feb 8, 2024 8:11 PM

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Two episodes without the two MCs..
I strongly suspect Ashaf and co keep the existence of Phanora
a secret from Guideau, despite being in the same team..
Feb 8, 2024 10:49 PM
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As I commented last episode, I'm looking forward to how Phanora and Johan would interact with the MC duo. Knowing that Phanora is a witch, it'd be very interesting to see what happens if Guideau finds out.
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Feb 8, 2024 11:09 PM

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I didn't know if I was really feeling the anime until this episode, but now I can get into it. I hope they keep it up!
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Feb 8, 2024 11:43 PM
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Usually I dislike spin-offs with different MCs, but in this case I would`ve like to get separate series for this couple
Feb 9, 2024 12:23 AM

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Necromancy is such a taboo topic, this has now happened to Phanora and Jeff, who were welcomed by The Necromancer into his mansion, it's full of undead in their various states. Especially for Jeff's dead fiancée who was unnecessarily raised to life due to necromancy, the Necromancer tried to do the same with his dead wife, but all he desires only, is beauty to resurrect her. That's his only reason, and Phanora finds it dull, revealing her witch origins.

Against all of the Necromancer's taxidermy experimentations, forcing Johan on her will not make her bulge, even Semi-auto demons, and the only right away is to kill the soul from within to stop their manifestation. And Johan, even as an undead, a witch's undead to be exact, that's why Phanora has such trust in him. And as people of the Order of Magical Resonance, their clientele is forced by their contract, and the Necromancer is revitalized as an undead to maintain his collection.

Phanora and Johan are such interesting characters, hope we get to see more of them.
Feb 9, 2024 2:36 AM
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I am curious. Considering that death and souls are some of the great mysteries, what doesn't make sense to you about the stories explanation?
Dreadogastus_F said:
what doesn't make sense to you about the stories explanation?


She willy-nilly made the cycle of souls a thing and implied that people in that universe where aware (of them having been reborn) ... kinda keeping being the same being and still knowing the stuff from past lives*. Which hasn't been established, neither here nor in the story universe (the first part matters because that excludes it from "common facts" that just apply when and wherever and don't require explaining; the second matters because of the first: if it isn't common knowledge, it has to be established in the story).

*) Or else her stating that going undead was basically a shortcut from having to wait one's turn in being reborn would make no sense (in that it wouldn't mean anything).


The implications of basically every character in the story being an "old soul" and knowing would be huge. And it would also make a lot of what has happened seem dumb (as in: people would have acted differently). But of course she didn't mean it that way, she was just bsing away (more precisely, the author was).
Feb 9, 2024 3:42 AM
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In fact, it is "void" according to our Eastern concept. When the soul dies again, it will fall into a place where nothing exists at all? Only consciousness permanently stays there (no above, no below, no left, no right, no bright, no dark, no hot, no cold, no colorless, no sound, no odor, no taste, no pain, no joy, no fear, no sadness....no concepts exist in this here. Only your consciousness will remain forever). Leaving the cycle of reincarnation also has many concepts, it simply means that you will escape the cycle of birth and death and will not be under the control of earth, hell, heaven or the realms within the cycle of reincarnation.... normal human beings Normally, if the soul is killed and dissolved, it will go to the ''void'' realm, but for supernatural entities, when they had the power to overcome the cycle of reincarnation, they will move to supreme spaces or realms. Basically, I think whether humans, demons, gods or supernatural entities. If their souls are destroyed and cannot be restored, they will all fall into the void realm.
Feb 9, 2024 3:51 AM
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It was bad in every aspect...everything was classic shit and predictable...
Feb 9, 2024 3:52 AM

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Like several people here I also prefer this duo, Phanora and Johan chemistry is more fun to follow and Hayami Saori killed it with her role, displaying Phanora cold and angry emotions. Villain felt a bit too cartoonishly evil and his motives didn't really impress me, but we saw a merciless side of Phanora which was awesome. Also quite like the world building we got so far.

More of this duo please!
Feb 9, 2024 3:58 AM
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In fact, it is "void" according to our Eastern concept. When the soul dies again, it will fall into a place where nothing exists at all? Only consciousness permanently stays there (no above, no below, no left, no right, no bright, no dark, no hot, no cold, no colorless, no sound, no odor, no taste, no pain, no joy, no fear, no sadness....no concepts exist in this here. Only your consciousness will remain forever). Leaving the cycle of reincarnation also has many concepts, it simply means that you will escape the cycle of birth and death and will not be under the control of earth, hell, heaven or the realms within the cycle of reincarnation.... normal human beings Normally, if the soul is killed and dissolved, it will go to the ''void'' realm, but for supernatural entities, when they had the power to overcome the cycle of reincarnation, they will move to supreme spaces or realms. Basically, I think whether humans, demons, gods or supernatural entities. If their souls are destroyed and cannot be restored, they will all fall into the void realm.
This was also mentioned in Naruto. when the souls of the four hokages were swallowed by the death god from the Shiki Fujin sealing technique. then their souls have also fallen into the void realm and cannot be bound and summoned by Kabuto's Edo Tensei. Orochimaru later found a way to dissolve it by sacrifice the life of "old body" to controlling the death god to slit his stomach and reclaim the souls of the 4 hokage.
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Feb 9, 2024 4:07 AM
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Omg that art when Phanora summoned her knights was so crisp, when her eyes went white was just so badass of her and her voice is just so smooth and relaxed all the time Saori Hayami KILLED this role ong🔥🔥🔥😫

The story with necromancy was really interesting and I’d have to agree that that shit is really a taboo tbh I mean resurrecting a human should something only a godlike being should do not a human that’s just unethical

Seeing Johan come back had me hyped asf i knew bro was gonna come back but i didn’t expect bro to be an undead which is pretty cool of his character. Phanora be treating my boy like dirt but she loves him deep down not in a romantic way but you get what I mean🥰
Feb 9, 2024 12:07 PM
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I had almost written this show off before this arc but I knew Hayamin was coming and I had to at least give it a little more leash.
What a cheater she is. Now idk what to think about the show but if I’m promised more Phanora I think I’m on board the rest of the way
Feb 9, 2024 12:28 PM
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Both Johan and Phanora were so cool this episode. Johan in particular when he just appears sitting in a chair with blood still covering his body.

I wasn't expecting the ending at all
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Feb 9, 2024 12:47 PM
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Dickegrobe said:
Damn, I shouldn't have praised it right before they introduce one of the most comically stupid villains (and give a dumb lecture about souls that doesn't make any sense), but whatever ...

I’m pretty sure his motivation being so surface-level was done on purpose to A) make you dislike him and B) justify everything they did to him next though right? And how exactly did the soul explanation not make sense? Genuine question
Feb 9, 2024 1:10 PM
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  • The animation looked cheap. The show was like a picture book sometimes. It was stressed by adding the scroll around the window frame.
  • Also it's unclear how the protagonist punished the criminal.

If you mean Johan, he just skinned him while keeping him barely alive enough for Phanora to come finish him off. Phanora then turns him into an undead, dooming his soul to the same fate he tried to brush off earlier
Feb 9, 2024 2:27 PM

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This hybrid witch/necromancer and her partner have potential to be leading protagonists. In fact, they remind me of a leading couple from Undead Girl Murder Farce.
@phantomfandom

My thoughts exactly. This couple has much more chemistry and sexy goodness than our original MCs. Hope we get some more of them in future episodes.
Feb 9, 2024 5:03 PM

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Well this episode did make me smile a bit. I wasn't expecting she being a witch nor johan being an undead. Well played, indeed.
Feb 9, 2024 5:09 PM
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Could any readers of the manga tell me where the anime is in its adaptation of the manga ?
Feb 9, 2024 5:37 PM
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Can't imagine how good this show'll be if this got the Heavenly Delusion treatment instead of getting a barely subpar adaptation
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Can't imagine how good this show'll be if this got the Heavenly Delusion treatment instead of getting a barely subpar adaptation
@Ronninn Oh man, you just had to bring up a concrete example and make me sadder... I'm now wondering how amazing it would be if they animated this episode like one of those man-eater attacks and violent hallucinations from Heavenly Delusion.
Feb 9, 2024 11:15 PM

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Could any readers of the manga tell me where the anime is in its adaptation of the manga ?
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Feb 9, 2024 11:29 PM

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Would be very funny if this witch is the witch lol.

But ofc, too easy.
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Feb 10, 2024 5:00 AM

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This anime is definitely becoming one of my favorites for this season. Even though we moved away from Ashaf and Guideau, they were still able to keep things very interesting with the reveal that Phanora was a witch and Johan was undead. Learning more about the details of necromancy was very cool as well. It’s not just a free revive as it comes with horrific consequences. I don’t know if we are getting our main duo back next episode, but I do know the it’s going to be interesting no matter what. (8.5/10)
Feb 10, 2024 5:57 AM

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I hope that Necromancer feels beyond regret pissing-off Kristoff hAHAHAHa!
5/5.


Feb 10, 2024 6:48 AM
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I'm pretty sure Johan was just really jealous from her being so physically close to an other man😂
Feb 10, 2024 3:12 PM
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Great animation and plot!
Feb 10, 2024 4:37 PM

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Great decision to watch this anime 2 episodes at a time as they released. This necromancy arc was a very good watch.
Feb 10, 2024 5:07 PM

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its a shame I like these two way more than the main characters. I hope we get more of them.
Feb 10, 2024 11:00 PM

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This show needed an arc like this. We're back on trick. I'm interested to see mroe of these two.
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Feb 10, 2024 11:02 PM

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Man learning about what happens to strays’ souls after the necro spell wears off is horrible. Last week I said it was morally grey, but it’s not even in doubt anymore. Bringing people back to life is a purely selfish choice for the living person. The necromancer got exactly what he deserved. Very satisfying episode.

Things went about as I expected with Phanora pretending to be captured and Johan playing the bait. But Phanora’s big reveal as a witch was surprising as hell. I knew she had a trick up her sleeve, but didn’t know she had THAT. Her abilities are so scary, she’s extremely powerful but what’s more is that she totally changes how I looked at witches in this series. We’ve kinda been made to think they’re all bad, but apparently there’s good ones too.

I’m assuming Guideau already knows she’s a witch too since they’re part of the same org? Haven’t seen them on screen together yet to be 100 percent sure

The look on the necromancer face when he realised he fucked up by capturing literally the two worst possible people 😂 man Hayamin’s voice during Phanora reveal was so good. Very bloody ending to those negotiations as well.

Making the necromancer maintain all the people he’s revived as well as basically making his reunion with his beloved impossible is a perfect ending to this mini arc. She might not act like it at times, but Phanora clearly cares a lot for Johan and while she may abuse him, she’s not gonna let anyone else do it lol.

I hope we get to see more of them. They reminded me a lot of Tsuguru and Aya from undead girl as does the series in general tbf.
@Marinate1016 Guideau is about to want to throw hands with her.
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Feb 11, 2024 6:00 AM
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The hate y'all have for blonde Revy is unreal. I'm super excited to see her come back next episode.

As far as Phanora and co, I guess y'all really have a type. At least she's not a kid or sex doll with crazy body proportions. I just can't understand the idea of wanting a fictional character. But anime makes money off people like y'all, so go head and do you.

This anime has BIG BIG Darker than Black vibes, right down to the two part episode structure. Admittedly, Hei is a lot cooler than Guideau and Smoke Magician, but I kinda got the intention the mangaka of Witch didn't want to make another run of the mill wish fulfillment story. Which is why Guideau does whatever the hell she wants, to my complete and utter enjoyment.

But I would be lying if I said the story so far has sold her as well as say Revy was in Black Lagoon. IMO, it fits in well with this anime being a slow burn, character growth, journey anime. I love that Revy from Black Lagoon never fundamentally changed, even if she softened up just a little bit. My money is on this 12 parter not getting renewed for a second season, so I guess I'll have to read the manga to feel sad about Guideau growing a conscience and becoming nice.

Phanora doing the Soul Eater thing of being on the side of the angels was something I waiting for this whole time. No story worth it's salt makes all bad guys bad, and this story is too great to not have sympathetic witches in it. I wonder what the next sympathetic witch is gonna look like. Will she have to knock Guideau out?
Feb 11, 2024 9:28 AM
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1/5 for me. The characters weighting eternal damnation so lightly is too dumb for suspension of disbelief to be possible for me. The previous arc also had a problem with the motivations of the grimoire holders not making sense. The animation quality is average. I'll keep watching for now as the manga seems to be well reviewed.
Feb 11, 2024 1:46 PM
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It felt really good to see Phanora utterly destroy the necromancer dude's whole plan and then effectively enslave him. More anime need to let pieces of hypocritical garbage get their full comeuppance.
Feb 11, 2024 4:50 PM

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Man I love these two. I wish they got more screen time.
Feb 11, 2024 5:53 PM
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First of all: Phandora and Johan are better than the main duo. Second: I kept thinking all the time that Phandora was a necromancer, but like, undead at the same time, since she was always cold, I thought she was dead. Usually, I always guess the plots as they are quite obvious, but in this anime, it surprised me several times, and that's a pleasant surprise.

Feb 11, 2024 9:39 PM

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Man, I kind of wish Phanora and Johan were the main characters, I enjoyed their dynamic way more then Ashaf and Guideau.
Feb 12, 2024 5:28 PM

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Undead muder farse can exist alongside this anime.
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Feb 12, 2024 5:40 PM
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somehow they managed to get the Phanora and Johan stuff right, now can they PLEASE keep that up for the main stuff and stop messing with it?? damn
Feb 12, 2024 11:47 PM

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I actually really liked this episode. That was some crazy level of power from Phanora

That is really a dark fate for people that get resurrected. What a weird bittersweet ending. This guy gets to be with his love again but only for her to eventually fall back into the void.

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Man, I kind of wish Phanora and Johan were the main characters, I enjoyed their dynamic way more then Ashaf and Guideau.

Yeah I think everyone likes them more so hopefully they get shown as frequently as Ashaf and Guideau. I assume why Ashaf and Guideau are the main characters are because they are more goal oriented but I totally could have rolled with some series where it's just Phanora and Johan in a sort of occultist slice of life drama.
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Feb 13, 2024 3:10 PM
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Ashaf is hiding that phanora is a witch from guideau 🤣
Can't wait to see if this secret unfolds.
Certainly the best episode so far death knights were cool
Feb 14, 2024 2:08 PM

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The new Duo makes me want to watch this anime but it's still hopeless, in the previous episode we have secrets and in this one again everything is simply explained in the monologue of the villain who is again easily defeated, it's really boring xD
Feb 15, 2024 7:03 PM

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As I suspected, Johan is undead, but it wasn't until the reveal that we find out Phanora is also a witch! The animation of the scrolling runes was just beautiful.

Is it bad that I frankly love the Phanora / Johan pairing more than the original duo? Phanora's VA's voice is just so lovely to listen to, it kind of reminds me of the lady from xxXholic.

Feb 16, 2024 5:41 AM

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Ok I liked the aesthetics in the first episode but this is as far as I can go with this one. The second pair was better than the protagonists but not by much. The mini arcs are boring because half of them are about explaning basic and well known occult stuff, while the other half is watching out of league one or two dimensional main characters easily stomping way weaker one dimensional villains with petty reasons.

And the switch from action to a slow occul detective and drama work wasn't done well with how edgy and poorly written the series is, it would have been better if it kept being an action show instead.

Even the music, which I liked the most, changed to something more typical in later episodes, and at times it even tries to sound like horror even though there's nothing here that comes off as scary.

I like the Beauty AND Beast aspect of it though.
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