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GundamSoul said: Salamak said: so did they adapt chapter 44 or was it original?.. They did adapt chapter 44. So either the final episode is original or I’m guessing they know where the story goes. Considering that it takes months from planning, scripts etc to finaly putting together a full episode its pretty obvious they know where the story is going! The author has been heavily involved in the anime production after all. |
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| The backstory of Cartaphilus was quite interesting, and creepy. Joseph just wanted to help, but got cursed instead, the poor guy. One more episode left. |
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GundamSoul said: Salamak said: so did they adapt chapter 44 or was it original?.. They did adapt chapter 44. So either the final episode is original or I’m guessing they know where the story goes. is chapter 44 is one of the last chapters released for real or just one of the last scanned? |
| I feel bad about Cartipihilus's past, it was sad for me although he's a baddie. I wish he'd change his ways and live a positive life. It seems like Chise is still mad at Elias and Ruth, yeah she needs to get over it after all Elias was acting for her in the first place. It seems like we approaching the last ep and I'm feeling disappointment from the show, maybe it will change. Right now I'm thinking of rating it a 6 from the way it's going. |
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| Such a cliffhanger. It's almost criminal, I want to see what happens now!!! I won't be able to wait for a week!!!! ______ So, Joseph and Cartaphilus weren't the same guy in the beginning. Joseph fused with him and now they're bearing the curse. Let's see if they can really nullfy each other curses. For the trivia: Cartaphilus is not a biblical figure, He's from a medieval myth. Some versions have him taunting Jesus during his final hours, other versions have him throwing a stone at him, or refusing to give him water while Jesus was carrying the cross. And according to the legends, one the possible names for this figure was the name of "Joseph" |
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shiro_kai said: The latest chapter for real. the anime has adapted everything, and its a monthly manga.GundamSoul said: They did adapt chapter 44. So either the final episode is original or I’m guessing they know where the story goes. is chapter 44 is one of the last chapters released for real or just one of the last scanned? |
| The Anime Binge Is Life -PolarCyrus97 2k17- |
| So we got the backstory of Joseph, and it was pretty dark and bloody. But there is one way i don't understand. The current Joseph doesn't want to be immortal, but the gravedigger Joseph wanted to be immortal? |
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| so I wondering who was that Cartaphilus guy before he merge with Joseph? |
| I am seriously pissed... They squeezed in two chapters of the manga into one episode! Unless the new manga chapter comes out within two 2-3 days.... How the hell are they gonna air the final episode??? Or, are they gonna skip a week, like with DBS and OP??? Either way, I am in love with this series, and highly rooting for a season 2!!!!!!! |
| So we got some plot. Finally. Idk after I was initially hyped for this it turned out a bit disappointing. Lets just hope this will get a semi good ending so it was not a complete waste of time |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Wow! So am I the only one who thinks a live action TV adaptation would do this anime justice, because this show has it ALL! Now all we need is Daniel Radcliffe and Tom Felton, and director Guillermo Del Toro! So we move on from Chise's flashback party and move on to Joseph's and this is the part where it hit me like a Rock Slide launched by an Archeops. Joseph, or in this case, Cartaphilus is...you know what, let's talk about that later. So we find out that Joseph was a misunderstood son of an undertaker, who just so have happened to find a talking dead body right behind his graveyard (What are the ODDS!) He tends to the poor soul, only to find no solutions to the being's poor rotting condition. He eventually merges somehow (Yeah, just roll with it) and he only suffers more. He pulls a Sweeney Todd on a hapless girl and gives Hans Christian Anderson inspiration for his story, the Red Shoes, and becomes a walking chimera and Hodge Podge of human bodies, all in the search for an end. Though he didn't find that solution, he did find out who he was, and he is PISSED! And I guess you can piece together what happened there. Meanwhile, Elias broods and emos the forest until Spriggan (aka Best Husbando) drops in and pins him down, until the Fairy Queen's loli familiars pop in and gives him a hand, right after what I think after she attempted to turn him into a tree (?) Soon, she calls everyone for a search party to find Chise. Meanwhile, our little witch friend gets a surprise visit from Phylius. Apparently, she wasn't supposed to tell Elias what she told them, and so in an effort to make up for it, she meets Chise in a creepy Alleyway (What were the ODDS!) and turns into a bull and charges after Joseph to the ED of the anime.....I'm not kidding, the fountain in the ED is exactly where the episode ends. Not bad, that was very clever of the folks. This episode was another flashback episode, mostly, and it gave the audience a much needed exposition dump, which I wished it had done much better, like they could've done for Chise's, but what's done been done, and let's move on to the rest of the episode. Sadly, everyone was just second fiddle, only to join Chise near the climax of the episode, and by extension the entire arc. Overall, it was ok. I am looking forward to the next episode though. With a transition like that, I just can't help but wait! About who Cartaphilus is, he is the Wandering Jew. I didn't know about this because
For those of you who were uninitiated, the Wandering Jew was a bystander who taunted and threw a rock at Jesus Christ when he was crucified, and was doomed to walk on the Earth forever until his Second Coming. OK we know that bit, simple. What you don't know is that his conception as a character has various allusions to other forms of literature. We have the Red Shoes, a girl passes by and loses her FRICKING LEGS IN A BLOODY FASHION, and then there's Cartaphilus himself. Believe it or not, he is not the only one to get the immortal walk of shame from God, there was another, and his name was Cain, the world's first murderer. Unlike Cartaphilus, he was made to walk as a mortal where he eventually lived long enough to build a city and be crushed under the building he built. however, in other forms of literature, he is seen as the origin of ALL evil (Oh no, not the devil, nor the demons, nor Hitler, just Cain) most prominently in Beowulf, where in the epic, he was described as the father of Grendel, and all other demons and monsters that walk the Earth. Similarly, in the anime, he is seen as an obstacle to the cast, and the origin of all things bad that happened to them. The Wandering Jew was also the inspiration behind AZ from Pokemon X and Y (Hence the Archeops reference earlier) |
ONWARDS! Away from homework and on to more anime!!! |
| poor Joseph...he only tried to help still don't like Elias - Chise deserves someone who doesn't try to kill of her friends out of jealousy and use her as an excuse -_- saving Chise is so not enough to make up for that curious about the final episode |
| We finally get the background story of Cartaphilus and it was brutal and sad. His life was pretty awful as he was being picked on by the village kids and beaten to a pulp by the drunk bastards. It's no wonder that he lost his mind as he was trying to help the 'Cartaphilus' person to recover. The montage that followed shows Joseph acquiring more limbs during his adventures, which was gruesome. He might be an awful guy now, but I do have a little bit of sympathy for him though. As for Elias, seeing him in that state was depressing, so I'm glad that Titania and Oberon came to help him. Her bodyguard went a bit crazy with his own transformation, which was a surprise. I'm looking forward to seeing how the last episode will play out. This episode might've felt a tad rushed, but it did a great job in setting up the big confrontation between Chise and Joseph on the streets of London. |
| Another great flashback!! This time is about the origin of Joseph and Catafilus friendship and how both evolve in one!!! |
| Does anyone know who Cartaphilus is based on? He kinda seems familiar to a Hindu lore. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| Joseph sure bet on the wrong horse there, huh? |
| Well, at least we finally know what that place shown in the credits is all about now, and other than that this was a solid episode that, outside of the flashbacks, felt a little slow to get to the point, but it was all executed well. While I'm not necessarily happy about Cartaphilus being given a tragic backstory to justify his psychopathy, I am at least able to accept it at this stage, as the show has mostly been good enough to allow stuff like that to pass. |
| I felt they really screwed up with introducing Marielle. Her character has literally nothing to add to the plotline, and with only one episode left too.. |
BlossomBurst said: Great episode. Joseph's past hit hard, I'm starting to pity him a bit. My guess is Chise will put Jose-phillus out of his misery by giving him the arm curse. It's cool to see the ED and that ghost city at the end of the episode are connected, I wonder what its mystery is. I'm gonna miss this show, but the wait until next week is killing me! Also, am I the only one who forgets what happened in the prior week's episode? Yes. Ive been having a very hard time qith this lately... i might start taking notes , lol |
| My expectations have been granted in a certain sense and the narration went well beyond, even talking about the state of Elias was an excellent opportunity to make the episode more interesting. I wonder if there will be a second season. |
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dasprn said: Does anyone know who Cartaphilus is based on? He kinda seems familiar to a Hindu lore. Correct me if I'm wrong. He is an actual "existing" legend. So pretty much based on himself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew |
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| Jesus Joseph just did literal "FUSION-HA!". WHAT AN IDIOT. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Did anyone else feel like Joseph became crazy before they even combined? If he stayed nice the entire time I might feel a bit more pity, but this man was slightly insane before they even combined. |
RazielZero said: dasprn said: Does anyone know who Cartaphilus is based on? He kinda seems familiar to a Hindu lore. Correct me if I'm wrong. He is an actual "existing" legend. So pretty much based on himself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_Jew Wow thanks Appreciate it |
| When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| I thought Chise had a titan transformation when Titania swoop in there looks so cool lmao |
| The way Elias is getting treated right now is really sad to watch. Chise needs to forgive him completely, and truly help him understand his new found emotions. He acted purely out of care for her, this monster she portrays him to be is completely due to his new found emotions and her. If he hadn't formed a connection to her he would have never gone to such lengths in the first place. I understand what he did was terrible but all this talk of her being his emotional teacher and always being by his side shouldn't have been circumstantial, she should have realized what she committed to. |
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| Glad Elias realizes he needs to change how he loves if he wants to be with Chise. That's some good character development. Hope the other baby dragon is saved. |
Texas_Wolf said: The way Elias is getting treated right now is really sad to watch. Chise needs to forgive him completely, and truly help him understand his new found emotions. He acted purely out of care for her, this monster she portrays him to be is completely due to his new found emotions and her. If he hadn't formed a connection to her he would have never gone to such lengths in the first place. I understand what he did was terrible but all this talk of her being his emotional teacher and always being by his side shouldn't have been circumstantial, she should have realized what she committed to. You're victim-blaming... It's not her responsibility. This is like telling an abused spouse that it's her fault her husband hits her and that she needs to not make him so angry. Elias realized this episode that /he/ needs to change if he wants to be with her and that's fucking great character development. Chise is handling everything maturely. She calmly states she's still mad and that both him and Ruth need to make up for what the two did. She's teaching Elias about emotion in the best way possible. Immediately forgiving him for trying to murder a child simply because he was jealous of her would be messed up. Elias' relationship with Chise has not been a healthy one but she's grown as a person and no longer thinks her life is meaningless and something worth throwing away so she, too, has developed and changed. The two have taught each other a lot and this is just another hard lesson for him. |
| very interesting episode with the look into Joseph's past and meeting cartaphilius. was nice to see oberon and titania again, and was wondering how come titania shrunk or was it maybe a proxy of her. |
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| Hrrrrrrrg come on animation quality. You have two episodes left - don't tank now. TT_TT |
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| Oh come on. Leave the poor little gravedigger alone! What did he ever do to you? And Joseph suddenly goes crazy...weird development, but I guess he just broke... Damn...that sucks. Just ripping off body parts to put on himself...and it still hurts... What a way to bring all of the supporting characters together. Well I can predict how this will end. Looks like they're really saving up the budget for the final episodes. |
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| Awesome episode! Almost everyone of Chise's allies was dispatched and involved in chasing Cartaphilus! Damn VA Ayumu Murase is really getting good! his crying act and other stuff like engrish! 5/5. |
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| Some action here, I wonder where Joseph is going... |
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| Cartaphilus, or I guess more Joseph, has lived one terrible fucking life |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| Firstly i thought that history of Joseph would be so bland but really... it was freaking deep and kinda scary. Good episode. |
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| Why am I feeling sorry for Joseph now? :( He was being treated poorly by townspeople, but not wanting to become friends with him cause he's just a graveyard's son is just sad. If they wouldn't be jerks to him, Joseph would have lived a better life but Cartaphilus had to screw his life somehow :/ It was nice to learn what made him do all those crimes after his connection with Cartaphilus though. |
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| So Joseph was the one who got himself into this situation by willingly fusing with Cartaphilus. |
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| MILF Titania became Loli Titania... guess that's the show's climax then |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| Fusing with Cartaphilus wasn’t the greatest idea lol I wonder how he became cursed in the first place. Even they don’t remember 😵 |
| Didn't like this episode much. Of all characters, Cartaphillus is probably the most pathetic one even with him backstory. His presence in this series is just annoying. The backstory wasn't completely bad but it still felt shallow for main antagonist of this show. Or the transition from manga to anime lost some key elements in the process. And the opening deus ex machina with Elias getting the help right in the moment when he needed was also bad. Not to mention that Titania changed looks without an explanation (although I suspect she walk through these cycles to give birth and be reborn). Still don't know why she's risking so much for Cartaphillus, she owns nothing to him. herrickluk said: I felt they really screwed up with introducing Marielle. Her character has literally nothing to add to the plotline, and with only one episode left too.. If she was the only one, it would be okay. But this series is littered with literally tens of throwaway plot-devices that only serves the story as needed (usually once and then be forgotten). |
Mich666May 13, 2018 2:26 PM
| Great cliffhanger, really intense progression and what backstory! Really lovely and I do wonder how this anime will end with the next and last episode! |
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