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| chopper's past was definitely one of the saddest points of the series, though it wasn't the moment of doctor hiluluk's death that hit me the hardest (as he went out with a glorious bang) but beaten up chopper getting him that poisonous mushroom and finding out the truth. as for going merry, i teared up by the end but i never found it too sad because i uh don't have experience extending my emotions to inanimate objects. ace's death was sad. if you were the least bit objective you could at least admit this, though i'm not sure if you can be seeing you fling "retard" around like a ape throwing his feces. it can definitely be argued that it's not the saddest episode of one piece, that was my opinion in the moment fresh off of bawling my eyes out at the epiosde. this series has a lot of poignant moments so i wouldn't try to argue that. however! the way you worded your argument makes me think you missed some of the tragedy. you sound like you really dislike ace and while i like him, i found it sad because of LUFFY. you mentioned luffy's cry at the end being one of the highlights of the episode and that is exactly why the whole thing's pretty tragic. ace's death doesn't mean nearly as much to me as how devastated luffy was. the whole time i was just thinking, holy shit our favorite protagonist just got curbstomped by robots and admirals and saw his friends disappear before his eyes and felt like useless shit and found out his brother was going to be executed and broke into a prison and got poisoned and lost ten years of his life and got curbstomped by more admirals at marine and then his brother fucking dies in his arms. that was what made me sadface like hell, just to clarify - for 400 episodes luffy has been hilarious and wonderful and then he got broken just like that. |
| Unfortunatly i couldnt enjoy this episode as much as i should considering I've seen Ace's death spoiled atleast 3 times...not to mention the fucking episode title... Also it bugs me how there were plenty of other cases where characters clearly shouldv have died but didnt just one example.. a POINT BLANK NUCLEAR BLAST. yet Ace gets killed just like that. it was sad but a few factors played into me not enjoying this episode as much as i could have. It does suck though becuase he was my favorite character in the series. 4/5 |
Hokuto_no_FuzzMar 26, 2012 8:10 AM
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insan3soldiern said: Yeah, there is some huge irony in how things turned out. I still cried though, it's to bad this was more or less spoiled for me at one point. Honestly, I feel more terrible for Luffy than anything. I mean, this has to be the first time I know of where his efforts didn't pay off in anyway and this is arguably the most important moment that happened to him as well and then you add all those pirates and even Marines dying for no real reason... Agreed. Luffy's crying/yelling at the end is haunting. UGH, MY HEART (for both Ace and Luffy). ;_________; |
| What finally made me break down in this episodes was the way luffy was crying right at the very end, that was very different from normal anime crying, it felt real. |
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Saorin said: Tears. Won't. Stop. ;_; mine too T^T |
| Cried for 2 episodes length (T;T) vizhmaster_vizhu said: Yeah right, you need a reason to feel sad lmao |
ToG25thBaamOct 27, 2012 11:06 AM
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| I know my reaction is supposed to be sorrow and hysterical weeping, but I'm just too angry right now. Only in Japan do they think it's good story-telling to spend 80 episodes saving someone's life just to have said character throw it away because of pride. This is the kind of thing that makes it difficult for me to forgive an author. Forgive the rant. You all might not share my viewpoint, but this is something I take exception to in anime. It can make me view an entire series differently. I'm trying to not let that happen, but so far, I'm failing. ANGRY FACE |
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| I felt nothing lol, but yeah whitebeard is a little late in his part. |
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| Disappointing. Don't take me wrong, the episode was still very good and had some very intense parts, but it's just the delivery... They manage to remove a lot of the potential emotion that this scene could have. I already knew that Ace would end up dying. As I'm usually careless when it comes to reading spoilers of this series. But anyway this is not an excuse. I knew too that the Straw Hats would make a funeral for the Going Merry at the end of Enies Lobby, and the moment was still so fucking intense and breathtaking when it came. The stylistic choice to picture the death has maybe something to do with it. What about that music? Was it any memorable? Is it that difficult to make a decent epic soundtrack when an anime character dies, for God's sake? And the images. Still frames and flashbacks. Flashbacks and still frames. Ad infinitum. Lacking any logical order, just put in there. I can only remember Hiruluk's suicide. If there is a prime example of an aesthetic embellishment of death done right, it's this one. And makes me wonder what has been lost at many key points of this arc, including this one. Because it is not a problem of budget. It is a problem of the setting of elements to build the scene. I mean, I was more moved at Garp's reaction than at Ace's death in itself. In addition to this, this Marineford arc is being a little bit disappointing. Epic fruit battle after epic fruit battle has been pretty much everything I've got here. I miss some comedy, I know there is a war but every character seems too focused on looking cool instead of actually reacting with some dynamism. The only source seems to be Buggy and it got old very soon. |
jal90Feb 6, 2013 4:10 PM
| this episode just utterly opened my DISAPPOINT in One Piece anime. I cant describe my not believing to this stupid arc part ending. WTF they at all tried rescuing Ace if they couldn't even protect him when he was saved? I mean really, c'mon Oda screwed up that arc as fuq, doing pathetic drama out of potentially good characters making shit out of them. Aside of all that patheticness with Whitebeard pirates and Navy and allowing Blackbeard to do that all like it was natural flow of the story, what is the most pathetic is LUFFY. I mean why making all that fuss in prison and navy and at the end causing death for his beloved brother ? it was just pathetic making whole arc like struggling and doing all those things to save Ace, who was killed when he was saved O.o and those persons who wanted to do something just was left in minor doing nothing. Ace's death was the most ridiculous moment in all. It was contradictory to the characters and to the story. No matter how many times I rewatch, I stil can't understand why Ace died so stupidly? Why every character out there was so ridiculously pathetic till the end in that arc? Why the whole arc was created so flashily and without any sense making story just worse? For me after Ace's death episode and ending of this disappointing Marineford arc, One Piece just is another one screwed up shounen story which could be much more and had good potential. only good thing was somewhow a couple of battles showed up there and fruits capability and powers, but nothing more, everything else was just pure patheticness. One more thing thing which made that whole arc in my eyes better was Buggy which gave a litle of that One Piece mode, and Whitebeard. in all, deep disappointment in this episode, in characters, in arc, and whole developement. |
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| 2 Major Pirates died, and 0 from the Marine. That's unfair... |
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| Even though I read the manga and knew this was coming up it still had me tearing up. That final shot of Luffy after he realizes Ace is gone is what really got me the most. Also Garp telling Sengoku that he better hold him down otherwise he'll kill Sakazuki gave me chills. A raging Garp doesn't sound good for any side of the battle |
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| AAAACCCCCCCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! AAAACCCCCCEEEEE, HE'S DEAD! NOOOOOOOO. My absolute favourite character, he went through so much! He didn't deserve this! WHY?! If I didn't already know 100 eps ago about his death(thanks to onepiecewiki), I think I would be emotionally unstable. I couldn't help but tear up during this episode. I absolutely hate Akainu, HATE him. Luffy, Garp, Marco, Whitebeard, their reactions. Ace dies with a smile, the will of D? This episode, ahhhhhhhh! |
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SamuraiSx said: this episode just utterly opened my DISAPPOINT in One Piece anime. I cant describe my not believing to this stupid arc part ending. WTF they at all tried rescuing Ace if they couldn't even protect him when he was saved? I mean really, c'mon Oda screwed up that arc as fuq, doing pathetic drama out of potentially good characters making shit out of them. Aside of all that patheticness with Whitebeard pirates and Navy and allowing Blackbeard to do that all like it was natural flow of the story, what is the most pathetic is LUFFY. I mean why making all that fuss in prison and navy and at the end causing death for his beloved brother ? it was just pathetic making whole arc like struggling and doing all those things to save Ace, who was killed when he was saved O.o and those persons who wanted to do something just was left in minor doing nothing. Ace's death was the most ridiculous moment in all. It was contradictory to the characters and to the story. No matter how many times I rewatch, I stil can't understand why Ace died so stupidly? Why every character out there was so ridiculously pathetic till the end in that arc? Why the whole arc was created so flashily and without any sense making story just worse? For me after Ace's death episode and ending of this disappointing Marineford arc, One Piece just is another one screwed up shounen story which could be much more and had good potential. only good thing was somewhow a couple of battles showed up there and fruits capability and powers, but nothing more, everything else was just pure patheticness. One more thing thing which made that whole arc in my eyes better was Buggy which gave a litle of that One Piece mode, and Whitebeard. in all, deep disappointment in this episode, in characters, in arc, and whole developement. Yeah because making Luffy useful in the war is not typical, yeah because making Ace survives is not predictable, and yeah, because people are one dimensional creature that they don't have emotions. From what we've seen of Ace from his confrontation with BB, we should've known that he is not one to take insult aimed at his pops, especially it was matched well with his fire DF, which kinda means a fiery and rash personality, some sort.. People want no predictability, it was given to them, then people still find things to complain, like saying how Impel Down now serves no purpose because all the episodes wasted on Luffy failing to save his brother, bro, it's an adventure, in case you don't know what that is, or how it was supposed to be. jal90 said: Disappointing. Don't take me wrong, the episode was still very good and had some very intense parts, but it's just the delivery... They manage to remove a lot of the potential emotion that this scene could have. I already knew that Ace would end up dying. As I'm usually careless when it comes to reading spoilers of this series. But anyway this is not an excuse. I knew too that the Straw Hats would make a funeral for the Going Merry at the end of Enies Lobby, and the moment was still so fucking intense and breathtaking when it came. The stylistic choice to picture the death has maybe something to do with it. What about that music? Was it any memorable? Is it that difficult to make a decent epic soundtrack when an anime character dies, for God's sake? And the images. Still frames and flashbacks. Flashbacks and still frames. Ad infinitum. Lacking any logical order, just put in there. I can only remember Hiruluk's suicide. If there is a prime example of an aesthetic embellishment of death done right, it's this one. And makes me wonder what has been lost at many key points of this arc, including this one. Because it is not a problem of budget. It is a problem of the setting of elements to build the scene. I mean, I was more moved at Garp's reaction than at Ace's death in itself. In addition to this, this Marineford arc is being a little bit disappointing. Epic fruit battle after epic fruit battle has been pretty much everything I've got here. I miss some comedy, I know there is a war but every character seems too focused on looking cool instead of actually reacting with some dynamism. The only source seems to be Buggy and it got old very soon. Have to commend your insight, you paid so much attention to anime when you're watching it, every single details, wow. As for the BGM/OST, it was more of their voice acting that got me though, great voice acting if you ask me, it's perfection. Somehow I remember there wasn't any music playing in the background, and remember that we could still hear the war going on, imo it wasn't a bad choice. Maybe it could be much sadder with a music going on, maybe it couldn't, who knows. |
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NegativeDeath said: lilmp89 said: R.I.P. Ace |
| ACE!!! T_T |
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| Touching episode. The small flashbacks of Ace and his final words made me emotional. No person deserves to question whether he/she should have been born or not. No matter who your daddy is. I would have liked to see more of Ace in the series, but his story would probably have overshadowed Luffy's. And we can't have the shotlight stolen from the main character sigh. As awesome as the Ace/Luffy moments was, my favorite moment of the episode was when Garp tried to attack Akainu. He was just trying to prevent Luffy from saving Ace couple episodes ago and now he wants to make Akainu pay for killing him. Nice!! I like the little details that show that the situation isn't black and white. A well deserved 5/5 |
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| Dang. Luffy's reaction still gets me after all this time. |
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| This was the saddest episode in anime history R.I.P. Ace |
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| I honestly don't think I've ever cried this much |
supermegasonic said: he actually died. even though i was spoiled about it, i didnt want to believe it, but i knew it wasnt a lie. but still..... Saeba_D_Guyver said: flame_master_14 said: but I honestly cried more when they had to burn Merry. This. And, to be honest, the most emotional scenes had far less buildup. Luffy's screaming of "ACE!!!" for 50+ episodes killed any impact of his eventual death. The Merry funeral scene and Nami asking Luffy to help her in Arlong Park, those were the two most emotional scenes; those scenes hit hardest, without feeling the need to force it down the audience's throat. |
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| oh that was so idiotic Ace. Overrated Piece. |
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| One of the most amazing and saddest episode I have ever seen. Unfortunately it was spoiled so many times. But still an amazing watch. Rip Ace 5-12-2015 |
| The saddest episode ;w; |
| I fucking knew this would happen, but I, ms. All Positive, thought, oh no the 32 people on the internet that told me he was going to die were wrong. Seriously what the hell is wrong with me, even if I am told, I refuse to believe ot untill I see it with my eyes which makes me feel even worse when it happens... |
| Ace's death wasn't sad because of Ace himself. The only thing that made it sad was Luffy's response to it. |
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| Breaks my heart when I see Luffy cry TT____TT my stupid friend already spoiled this part that Ace died, but I didn't want it to be true :'( |
| None of those admirals look defeatable but I hope they all die somehow!! RIP Ace, hope your death makes Luffy less of a whining spoilt brat |
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| I never thought this anime would make me so upset. I can't believe we went through a gazillion episodes of this arc for it to end this way ;_; |
| Knowing Ace was going to die didn't do much to stop the tears from flowing when it actually happened. For the first time in my life I can say that I am genuinely glad that I was spoiled on a show. I can't even describe the levels of rage and despair I would feel if I had been blindsided. No one fucking dies in this show, all the worst bad guys make it out alive in the end, and then Luffy's BROTHER has to die!? He survives execution twice, and then is rescued only to die defending Luffy, it's literally the most soul crushing scenario possible and meant to absolutely demoralize the viewer. I'm still very pissed off right now, and that's knowing full well in advance that all of the rescue efforts were going to be in vain. I may have likely quit the show if I had been going in blind, this is practically outright trolling. |
LostSpectreOct 11, 2016 3:22 AM
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| s psrt of my heart just broke into a million pieces |
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| Maybe one piece character will manage to recover from this, but I won't! My at least 7th time watching it, yet still crying like a baby. I have to mention when I watched it the first time I cried full day and kept thinking about it for the rest of the week. Well mainly because I am marathoning and I kept watching the next arc. It so not only Ace's death that makes it sad, it is really the desperation of his friends and family. Luffy is beyond speechless, Luffy is beyond "lost", that cry, the tears, the feeling of losing a best friend and a brother, the whole million episodes in which he tried to save him, the many near death experience to rescue him, ended in nothing. Actually worse than nothing :( Another tear jerking moment is Garp, poor old Garp who still receives hate sometimes. The loving grandad who was tied from every aspect. The pure shock in his face, which translated into pure hatred moments later towards Akaino. The inability to express his grief and sadness because he is from the other side. He can't fight nor cry over Ace! To be honest I don't think he'll recover from this either. I'd kill to see him meet Luffy again when all of this had been in the past. Not sure how both of them will react towards each other. And finally, of course, the whitebeard and his crew. The second family, the only reason they come last in my priority because of the lack of deep picture we have of their relationship with Ace. While I know their bond must be strong, I feel it less than I should. However, imaging straw hat's reaction if one of their crew died kills me. So I think it would be the same here. Ace found his purpose in life, or at least that he deserves to live. RIP Ace. Final note, why does Ace hate Roger is beyond my understanding :( Sometimes I pity Roger for that. |
HakayaJan 30, 2017 4:17 AM
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| Quite possibly both the best and worst episode of One Piece. I've not cried this hard in a while, even though I knew it was coming. ;-; That final exchange between Ace and Luffy was handled so well- especially the part where the music cuts and all you can hear is Ace's breathing. Oh god, and his final words were just heart-breaking...now the lyrics in the Opening song makes that much more sense with regards to the arc as a whole. How am I gonna listen to that without crying now?! All Ace wanted was proof that his existence was worth something, and although it ended tragically he finally felt that when Luffy and Whitebeard fought through hell to rescue him. It's probably why he died with a smile in the end. He didn't feel worthless anymore. At the same time though, I'm bummed out that this is the last we're gonna see of Ace. He had so much potential as a character in the long run, and I'm so sad that we're not gonna have growing stronger in his own right...I just think he had more to give and bowed out a bit early. It felt like his story's been cut short...although I suppose that's the tragedy :/ |
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| I knew that he will die, but I cried anyway ;( |
| I cried and could barely see the screen. It's so sad and painful. I don't have anything else to say. This was the last episode for tonight so probably I'll cry myself to sleep. |
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