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Oct 11, 2015 10:11 AM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
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I haven't watched it myself yet (or at least not enough of it), I am just providing a possible explanation to why some people might dislike it since I've seen a lot of Shigatsu ''haters'' use this argument
A very astute observation. Yes, that is the main reason it is deemed offensive. There's even a thread filled with novel length essays about it. Unfortunately I think most of them missed the entire point, however, and it reminds me of the whole "Mahouka is racist to the Chinese" hogwash.
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Oct 11, 2015 10:20 AM

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Well, Mr. McMurphy, it has been quite some time so a detailed response may not be warranted until our next therapeutic session.

I'm not fond of spoiling, but essentially a group of viewers got the impression that the moral of the story is that abuse is justified with good intentions. The abuse is only one aspect of the relationship that was explored, however, and it wasn't justified much less encouraged. It was essentially showing how someone takes his or her life experiences and makes the best of them to move forward.

As for Mahouka, I debunked that argument ages ago as every "xenophobic quote" was completely taken out of context. Yes, a surplus of foreigners in a militant, heavily secured area is suspicious guys. It's not racism to make that observation.
Oct 11, 2015 10:27 AM
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Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:38 AM

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Oreimo
Shiki
Elfen Lied
Zankyou No Terror
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Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso
Clannad (Jun Maeda's writing in general)
Non Non Biyori

How is zankyou offensive!?
It's an offense to the inteligence of the watcher
Oct 11, 2015 10:41 AM

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15poundfish said:

Non Non Biyori


Excuse me but what?
Oct 11, 2015 10:44 AM
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Not really. It basically encouraged loving abusive parents
Ehhh. That's a stretch. While I also didn't like the idea of encouraging relationships in which parents push their children far too hard, it's not like he grew entirely from abuse. He remembered his mother's intentions and her overall love. It also touched on her reasons for doing so and her regret. It's pretty childish to assume people should not love even abusive parents if it's a psychological issue causing the abuse. You're not loving the abusive moments, you're loving the parent and he was ultimately able to get over the trauma.

Good call on offense, though, if people are actually being offended. I'm annoyed when women in anime pull the same old "onna no teki" nonsense that is only there for unnecessary conflict and for idiot tsunderes to strut their useless stuff. I'm not really offended, though, unless this junk actually influences real women to be this stupid regarding men.

SuperRed said:
15poundfish said:

Non Non Biyori


Excuse me but what?
Offensive for negative portrayal of autism. Just kidding. I love Ren-chon.

Magi because they took Arabian culture but made most of the cast bleach white.
You mean because they made it fun. Besides the fact that the original Aladdin is Chinese, if you're serious then you're silly to assume anime characters with blonde hair or even blue eyes are white. White people don't have natural blue hair. Magi is not a realistic anime so of course they're not going to look realistic.

Also, go watch Majin Bone so you can complain about Tyrone. He's from Africa but looks white.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:49 AM

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Mirai nikki. Rape is used for shock value.

Shigatsu for being retarded.
Oct 11, 2015 10:50 AM

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Genocyber takes the cake here probably violence jack too but didnt watched it.
Oct 11, 2015 10:56 AM

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OreImo Specials (for assembling an audience just so they could shit on them and laugh)
Angel Beats (most populist, focus-tested, insulting, socially engineered assembly-line product)
Grisaia no Kajitsu (most insane source material to anime compression ratio and resulting butchering in adaptation history)
Oct 11, 2015 10:59 AM

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MrMagnificent said:
Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white.

that's viewer perception. There was a thread a while back asking which ethnicity anime characters looked like, where everybody who was not asian said white. the OP also showed a chart showing the majority of Japanese people saying the characters looked Japanese. It's the same thing with Magi. You're projecting your own idea of skin color on it.

OT: that one where the MC goes around basically punching women, Gintama in some parts, any anime with violent tsundere's (reverse domestic violence is still domestic violence), and maybe some horror / shock anime. Of course there's also just shotacon like boku no pico which most viewers find offensive. (They don't find loli offensive for some reason though...)
Oct 11, 2015 11:11 AM

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Renji- said:
How's shigatsu offensive? lol
Episode 1:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1285841&show=330#msg39226476
Oct 11, 2015 11:22 AM
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Happy_Halloween said:
MrMagnificent said:
Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white.
that's viewer perception. There was a thread a while back asking which ethnicity anime characters looked like, where everybody who was not asian said white. the OP also showed a chart showing the majority of Japanese people saying the characters looked Japanese. It's the same thing with Magi. You're projecting your own idea of skin color on it.


But still, stuff like this can have a deep effect on some brown people. It can teach them that their skin colour is not perfect. Have you ever wondered why some brown people bleach their skin or why a lot of black women wear ridiculous wigs? Magi doesn't offend me. I'm not even Arabian but still, stuff like this effects people in different ways.
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Oct 11, 2015 11:32 AM

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MrMagnificent said:
Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white.


This guy is Arab (Gilgamesh from the Fate series) kek


Oct 11, 2015 11:34 AM

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Red_Keys said:
Renji- said:
How's shigatsu offensive? lol
Episode 1:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1285841&show=330#msg39226476

Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant. Making such rants after one episode is beyond dumb in general but here in this show it's almost retarded.
Oct 11, 2015 11:44 AM

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robis798 said:
Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant.
The events I talked about in that post are literally factual. Me not watchinhg another episode doesn't magically turn back time and erase the events that explicitly, deliberately, and factually happened. Yes, I can judge an episode of a show after watching that episode of that show. Get out of here with your bullshit pathetic excuse for a "defense".

I bet you're a "if you don't like it don't watch it!!1!" person.
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Offensive is a strong word, I tend to avoid anything I know will be offensive or I've heard people label as such. The only thing I can think of that I've seen an ep and abandoned because I found it offensive is Fate/Prisma Ilya. Sexualising children puts a show on my shit list pretty quickly.

Also Pupa was pretty tasteless I thought. I understand that it's supposed to be grim and to make your gut churn, but it was just too much.

Outside of those, probably just things I've heard mentioned but haven't seen provided they arent exaggerated such as Kiss X Sis and that one which was mentioned earlier in the thread because they are so well known.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:06 PM

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Red_Keys said:
robis798 said:
Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant.
The events I talked about in that post are literally factual. Me not watchinhg another episode doesn't magically turn back time and erase the events that explicitly, deliberately, and factually happened. Yes, I can judge an episode of a show after watching that episode of that show. Get out of here with your bullshit pathetic excuse for a "defense".

I bet you're a "if you don't like it don't watch it!!1!" person.

How about you don't make assumptions about me okay. I'm not the one acting dumb and judging and analyzing a show after one measly episode.

And actually watching 'another episode' does change a lot of things, it changes the circumstances of these events entirely, so yeah your rant is still zero.
Oct 11, 2015 12:20 PM

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one piece's portrayal of transsexuals is disgusting and primitive

So disgusting and primitive that it's based on a rather well-regarded cult film and a real drag queen's personality who happens to voice one of these characters.
Oct 11, 2015 12:22 PM

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Nodame Cantabile. And I ain't joking.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:24 PM
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SuperRed said:
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Excuse me but what?

Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies.
Oct 11, 2015 12:26 PM

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15poundfish said:
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Excuse me but what?

Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies.

That sounds ignorant and cliché but to each their own, I think it needs to take a few more steps to actually be offensive. Then again, I'm the typical guy who doesn't get easily offended by fictional stuff. Annoyed maybe, disgusted sometimes, but never as a lasting feel.
Oct 11, 2015 12:37 PM

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Bleach, the haters go out of their way to bash it in every forum even thou they don't watch or read it.
All their excuses are pure bias too, they don't even have a substantial reason to hate it, they're just jealous of the success.
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Mod Note: I've merged the second thread in with the original. Despite the danger of this becoming a listing thread thus far there has been a lot of worthwhile discussion, largely about why particular shows/episodes were offensive. Don't just list titles, explain your reasoning as to why it was deemed offensive.
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15poundfish said:
SuperRed said:


Excuse me but what?

Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies.


I'm sorry, but this is downright moronic, LOL
Oct 11, 2015 1:52 PM

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toradora is insult to character building and romance. still enjoyable anime otherwise.
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Oct 11, 2015 2:26 PM

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Shitcom was offensive. Truly seeing a woman shiting from her mouth...disgusting.


Oct 11, 2015 2:28 PM

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Shitcom was offensive. Truly seeing a woman shiting from her mouth...disgusting.
the guys does too. it's equal now.
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Oct 11, 2015 2:38 PM

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Green Green tries to turn me on by sexually harassing its female cast.
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Oct 11, 2015 3:30 PM

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A hentai series called Night Shift Nurses is the most offensive thing I've seen.
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A hentai series called Night Shift Nurses is the most offensive thing I've seen.
it's hot thou. but the scat scane still disgusting.
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Bleach, the haters go out of their way to bash it in every forum even thou they don't watch or read it.
All their excuses are pure bias too, they don't even have a substantial reason to hate it, they're just jealous of the success.

Too many shitty fillers make it slightly offensive as it doesn't have respect for your time.

SuperRed said:
15poundfish said:

Non Non Biyori

Excuse me but what?

Obvious troll.

MrMagnificent said:
Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white.

As someone who spent 4 years of his life around Arabs, I can safely say that there are plenty of white Arabs. They can be white/pale when they stop the tanning process by not being under the sun. In other words a lot of Arabs in hot countries are brown simply due to the sun and not naturally.
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15poundfish said:
SuperRed said:


Excuse me but what?

Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies.


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absentminded said:
Kruszer said:
A hentai series called Night Shift Nurses is the most offensive thing I've seen.
it's hot thou.


Maybe one or two of the less rapey scenes, but otherwise no.
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Ben-To

Apparently, lesbian rape is supposed to be a running joke in that series. No, it's not funny.
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Bad portrayal of childhood trauma and emotional abuse

Only if you have toy train sized tunnel vision.


Still blindly fanboying I see :>.
Tunnel vision seems more helpful when refusing to see the issues that some of us have with the show. Saying you don't care as much about them as, say, me would be one thing, but pretending that tons of people individually made those issues up because they don't want to see anything else is just silly. Care or not care about it, but the issues are definitely not unfounded.
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What anime do you consider to be offensive? And don't give me the "nothing offends me" crap. I pick Dragon Ball because of blatant racism (Mr. Popo is probably the most racist cartoon of all time).

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Oct 11, 2015 6:33 PM

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I've watched things that made me uncomfortable but never offended. Why would you get offended by fiction? I've just never understood why people get offended by things that aren't real. It makes no sense to me.
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Oct 11, 2015 6:48 PM

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A Certain series. It's nothing but pedophilia.
Oct 11, 2015 8:24 PM

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Because it establishes just how fucked up Misaki is as well and that her motives are far from benevolent, she just wants to feel good about herself and this also leads to a lot of conflict in the show. And whatever she does also doesn't always have the desired positive effect. In Shigatsu the egotism that motivates the cute girl was played down to the point where they made the guy look like the bad guy for having a trauma and not getting over it instantly when a cute girl tells him to do so. In NHK nobody really got over anything, it was depressing on purpose and not unintentionally. Also the comedy was a lot better and I enjoyed the side characters etc...
I might be mixing up things from the manga and anime for NHK since I more recently read the manga, but I'm still pretty sure it's very different and more critical/less preachy than Shigatsu.
Still, I'd probably give it 8/10 nowadays instead of 9/10 if I rewatched it, I saw it fairly early in my anime career. Shigatsu was a 3-4 when I dropped it though.


I have to rewatch Shigatsu one of these days, and pay more attention. The melodrama is definitely pushed too hard and cringey at times.

Shigatsu spoilers


NHK spoilers


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I've watched things that made me uncomfortable but never offended. Why would you get offended by fiction? I've just never understood why people get offended by things that aren't real. It makes no sense to me.


Just because it's fictional doesn't mean it can't be offensive. It's a matter of whether it's done in good taste. Something tasteless and controversial can easily become offensive, e.g. hitler jokes.
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robis798 said:
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Episode 1:

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1285841&show=330#msg39226476

Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant. Making such rants after one episode is beyond dumb in general but here in this show it's almost retarded.
too bad because that's basically the whole show in a nutshell
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Shitcom was offensive. Truly seeing a woman shiting from her mouth...disgusting.
the guys does too. it's equal now.
Its offensive to the restaurant owner
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Oct 11, 2015 8:30 PM

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Mahouka is pretty god damn racist
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Remv_quevav said:
absentminded said:
the guys does too. it's equal now.
Its offensive to the restaurant owner
well, i can't argue with this one.
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Mahouka is pretty god damn racist


Cause the "Chinese are the enemy" *rolls eyes*

The GAA is not made up of just the Chinese.
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Mahouka is pretty god damn racist


This.
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

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My vote is for "Space Pirate Sara"

What a piece of junk!
Oct 11, 2015 9:13 PM

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Legendary
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Legendary
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HEIL MEIN FUHRER!!!!!!
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Legendary

Legend of Koizumi seems so awesome, honestly. It looks less "offensive" and more over-the top.
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"The Koreans and Chinese were blinded by rage, by their hatred towards the Japanese. It was pitiful to see how pathetic they were, easily giving into the lies of Gabriel and PoH. Only if they had listened to the words of the Japanese players this entire war could have been avoided" - Original Sword Art Online Web Novel (Battle of the Underworld)

If SAO gets a third season I really want to see if it will still continue to be popular after that airs.
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PASWG is extremely offensive towards religious sentiments... except it then turns around and justifies and pays homage to them, so it's a mixed bag.

Code Geass has some brutal stereotypes of Chinese people, as well as the Brits.

I heard Akame Ga Kill was super offensive.
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