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Oct 11, 2015 10:11 AM
#151
Ratohnhaketon said: ? DevelopComic_Sans said: A very astute observation. Yes, that is the main reason it is deemed offensive. There's even a thread filled with novel length essays about it. Unfortunately I think most of them missed the entire point, however, and it reminds me of the whole "Mahouka is racist to the Chinese" hogwash.robis798 said: Comic_Sans said: Only if you have toy train tunnel vision.Renji- said: Bad portrayal of childhood trauma and emotional abuseHow's shigatsu offensive? lol |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 11, 2015 10:20 AM
#152
Comic_Sans said: Well, Mr. McMurphy, it has been quite some time so a detailed response may not be warranted until our next therapeutic session.? Develop I'm not fond of spoiling, but essentially a group of viewers got the impression that the moral of the story is that abuse is justified with good intentions. The abuse is only one aspect of the relationship that was explored, however, and it wasn't justified much less encouraged. It was essentially showing how someone takes his or her life experiences and makes the best of them to move forward. As for Mahouka, I debunked that argument ages ago as every "xenophobic quote" was completely taken out of context. Yes, a surplus of foreigners in a militant, heavily secured area is suspicious guys. It's not racism to make that observation. |
Oct 11, 2015 10:27 AM
#153
Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white. |
KaiwaiikillahOct 11, 2015 10:51 AM
'The way of the wang is long...and hard' |
Oct 11, 2015 10:38 AM
#154
Oct 11, 2015 10:41 AM
#155
15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? |
Oct 11, 2015 10:44 AM
#156
Not really. It basically encouraged loving abusive parents Ehhh. That's a stretch. While I also didn't like the idea of encouraging relationships in which parents push their children far too hard, it's not like he grew entirely from abuse. He remembered his mother's intentions and her overall love. It also touched on her reasons for doing so and her regret. It's pretty childish to assume people should not love even abusive parents if it's a psychological issue causing the abuse. You're not loving the abusive moments, you're loving the parent and he was ultimately able to get over the trauma.Good call on offense, though, if people are actually being offended. I'm annoyed when women in anime pull the same old "onna no teki" nonsense that is only there for unnecessary conflict and for idiot tsunderes to strut their useless stuff. I'm not really offended, though, unless this junk actually influences real women to be this stupid regarding men. SuperRed said: Offensive for negative portrayal of autism. Just kidding. I love Ren-chon.15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? Magi because they took Arabian culture but made most of the cast bleach white. You mean because they made it fun. Besides the fact that the original Aladdin is Chinese, if you're serious then you're silly to assume anime characters with blonde hair or even blue eyes are white. White people don't have natural blue hair. Magi is not a realistic anime so of course they're not going to look realistic.Also, go watch Majin Bone so you can complain about Tyrone. He's from Africa but looks white. |
LogiRogiOct 11, 2015 10:50 AM
Oct 11, 2015 10:49 AM
#157
Mirai nikki. Rape is used for shock value. Shigatsu for being retarded. |
Oct 11, 2015 10:50 AM
#158
Genocyber takes the cake here probably violence jack too but didnt watched it. |
Oct 11, 2015 10:56 AM
#159
OreImo Specials (for assembling an audience just so they could shit on them and laugh) Angel Beats (most populist, focus-tested, insulting, socially engineered assembly-line product) Grisaia no Kajitsu (most insane source material to anime compression ratio and resulting butchering in adaptation history) |
Oct 11, 2015 10:59 AM
#160
MrMagnificent said: Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white. that's viewer perception. There was a thread a while back asking which ethnicity anime characters looked like, where everybody who was not asian said white. the OP also showed a chart showing the majority of Japanese people saying the characters looked Japanese. It's the same thing with Magi. You're projecting your own idea of skin color on it. OT: that one where the MC goes around basically punching women, Gintama in some parts, any anime with violent tsundere's (reverse domestic violence is still domestic violence), and maybe some horror / shock anime. Of course there's also just shotacon like boku no pico which most viewers find offensive. (They don't find loli offensive for some reason though...) |
Oct 11, 2015 11:11 AM
#161
Renji- said: Episode 1:How's shigatsu offensive? lol http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1285841&show=330#msg39226476 |
Oct 11, 2015 11:22 AM
#162
Happy_Halloween said: MrMagnificent said: that's viewer perception. There was a thread a while back asking which ethnicity anime characters looked like, where everybody who was not asian said white. the OP also showed a chart showing the majority of Japanese people saying the characters looked Japanese. It's the same thing with Magi. You're projecting your own idea of skin color on it. Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white. But still, stuff like this can have a deep effect on some brown people. It can teach them that their skin colour is not perfect. Have you ever wondered why some brown people bleach their skin or why a lot of black women wear ridiculous wigs? Magi doesn't offend me. I'm not even Arabian but still, stuff like this effects people in different ways. |
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Oct 11, 2015 11:32 AM
#163
MrMagnificent said: Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white. This guy is Arab (Gilgamesh from the Fate series) kek |
Oct 11, 2015 11:34 AM
#164
Red_Keys said: Renji- said: Episode 1:How's shigatsu offensive? lol http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1285841&show=330#msg39226476 Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant. Making such rants after one episode is beyond dumb in general but here in this show it's almost retarded. |
Oct 11, 2015 11:44 AM
#165
robis798 said: The events I talked about in that post are literally factual. Me not watchinhg another episode doesn't magically turn back time and erase the events that explicitly, deliberately, and factually happened. Yes, I can judge an episode of a show after watching that episode of that show. Get out of here with your bullshit pathetic excuse for a "defense".Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant. I bet you're a "if you don't like it don't watch it!!1!" person. |
Oct 11, 2015 11:49 AM
#166
Offensive is a strong word, I tend to avoid anything I know will be offensive or I've heard people label as such. The only thing I can think of that I've seen an ep and abandoned because I found it offensive is Fate/Prisma Ilya. Sexualising children puts a show on my shit list pretty quickly. Also Pupa was pretty tasteless I thought. I understand that it's supposed to be grim and to make your gut churn, but it was just too much. Outside of those, probably just things I've heard mentioned but haven't seen provided they arent exaggerated such as Kiss X Sis and that one which was mentioned earlier in the thread because they are so well known. |
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Oct 11, 2015 12:06 PM
#167
Red_Keys said: robis798 said: The events I talked about in that post are literally factual. Me not watchinhg another episode doesn't magically turn back time and erase the events that explicitly, deliberately, and factually happened. Yes, I can judge an episode of a show after watching that episode of that show. Get out of here with your bullshit pathetic excuse for a "defense".Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant. I bet you're a "if you don't like it don't watch it!!1!" person. How about you don't make assumptions about me okay. I'm not the one acting dumb and judging and analyzing a show after one measly episode. And actually watching 'another episode' does change a lot of things, it changes the circumstances of these events entirely, so yeah your rant is still zero. |
Oct 11, 2015 12:20 PM
#168
JD2411 said: one piece's portrayal of transsexuals is disgusting and primitive So disgusting and primitive that it's based on a rather well-regarded cult film and a real drag queen's personality who happens to voice one of these characters. |
Oct 11, 2015 12:22 PM
#169
Luxun17 said: fight meNodame Cantabile. And I ain't joking. |
Oct 11, 2015 12:24 PM
#170
SuperRed said: 15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies. |
Oct 11, 2015 12:26 PM
#171
15poundfish said: SuperRed said: 15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies. That sounds ignorant and cliché but to each their own, I think it needs to take a few more steps to actually be offensive. Then again, I'm the typical guy who doesn't get easily offended by fictional stuff. Annoyed maybe, disgusted sometimes, but never as a lasting feel. |
Oct 11, 2015 12:37 PM
#172
Oct 11, 2015 12:51 PM
#173
Mod Note: I've merged the second thread in with the original. Despite the danger of this becoming a listing thread thus far there has been a lot of worthwhile discussion, largely about why particular shows/episodes were offensive. Don't just list titles, explain your reasoning as to why it was deemed offensive. |
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Oct 11, 2015 1:45 PM
#174
15poundfish said: SuperRed said: 15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies. I'm sorry, but this is downright moronic, LOL |
Oct 11, 2015 1:52 PM
#175
Oct 11, 2015 2:26 PM
#176
Oct 11, 2015 2:28 PM
#177
Oct 11, 2015 2:38 PM
#178
Green Green tries to turn me on by sexually harassing its female cast. |
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Oct 11, 2015 3:30 PM
#179
Oct 11, 2015 3:32 PM
#180
Oct 11, 2015 3:46 PM
#181
ichii_1 said: Bleach, the haters go out of their way to bash it in every forum even thou they don't watch or read it. All their excuses are pure bias too, they don't even have a substantial reason to hate it, they're just jealous of the success. Too many shitty fillers make it slightly offensive as it doesn't have respect for your time. SuperRed said: 15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? Obvious troll. MrMagnificent said: Magi because they took Arab culture but made most of the cast bleach white. As someone who spent 4 years of his life around Arabs, I can safely say that there are plenty of white Arabs. They can be white/pale when they stop the tanning process by not being under the sun. In other words a lot of Arabs in hot countries are brown simply due to the sun and not naturally. |
Oct 11, 2015 3:58 PM
#182
15poundfish said: SuperRed said: 15poundfish said: Non Non Biyori Excuse me but what? Komari's treatment as a character and the dichotomy between city life and rural life is not believable and downright offensive. All the characters from the city are portrayed as being more mature and developed even though people born on farms generally have more responsibilities than someone from a city. The setting also romanticizes rural communities by the lack of electronics when this is definitely not the case in contemporary first world societies. |
Oct 11, 2015 4:03 PM
#183
Oct 11, 2015 4:22 PM
#184
Ben-To Apparently, lesbian rape is supposed to be a running joke in that series. No, it's not funny. |
DontCallMeOtakuOct 12, 2015 9:41 AM
Oct 11, 2015 4:55 PM
#185
robis798 said: Comic_Sans said: Renji- said: How's shigatsu offensive? lol Only if you have toy train sized tunnel vision. Still blindly fanboying I see :>. Tunnel vision seems more helpful when refusing to see the issues that some of us have with the show. Saying you don't care as much about them as, say, me would be one thing, but pretending that tons of people individually made those issues up because they don't want to see anything else is just silly. Care or not care about it, but the issues are definitely not unfounded. |
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Oct 11, 2015 5:21 PM
#186
Humlon said: What anime do you consider to be offensive? And don't give me the "nothing offends me" crap. I pick Dragon Ball because of blatant racism (Mr. Popo is probably the most racist cartoon of all time). well this is awkward |
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Oct 11, 2015 6:33 PM
#187
I've watched things that made me uncomfortable but never offended. Why would you get offended by fiction? I've just never understood why people get offended by things that aren't real. It makes no sense to me. |
アル晴レタ日ノ事 魔法以上のユカイが 限りなく降りそそぐ 不可能じゃないわ |
Oct 11, 2015 8:24 PM
#189
Sosunser said: Because it establishes just how fucked up Misaki is as well and that her motives are far from benevolent, she just wants to feel good about herself and this also leads to a lot of conflict in the show. And whatever she does also doesn't always have the desired positive effect. In Shigatsu the egotism that motivates the cute girl was played down to the point where they made the guy look like the bad guy for having a trauma and not getting over it instantly when a cute girl tells him to do so. In NHK nobody really got over anything, it was depressing on purpose and not unintentionally. Also the comedy was a lot better and I enjoyed the side characters etc... I might be mixing up things from the manga and anime for NHK since I more recently read the manga, but I'm still pretty sure it's very different and more critical/less preachy than Shigatsu. Still, I'd probably give it 8/10 nowadays instead of 9/10 if I rewatched it, I saw it fairly early in my anime career. Shigatsu was a 3-4 when I dropped it though. I have to rewatch Shigatsu one of these days, and pay more attention. The melodrama is definitely pushed too hard and cringey at times. Shigatsu spoilers I remember the scene with the mother getting upset saying she's doing it "for his benefit". Though thats a pile of trash and obviously unjustifiable behaviour in any sense, that's probably most of the only point in the show where I actively found it detestable. Other than that, it really didn't feel like it was being preachy at all about anything. NHK spoilers NHK's characterization was pretty detestable. In fact, none of it really made much of any sense. The entire show tried to revolve around the MC having some sort of a psychological problem with facing people, but completely threw this out of the window for the purpose of plot progression, rather than actually solving whatever mental issue he's having, the anime just threw in his "condition" whenever it was convenient and pretended it didn't exist whenever it wasn't. He's so afraid he skips 3 years of college, but the moment a cute girl comes in he can go out, when he wants to buy anime merchandise he can come out, when he wants to stalk his friend he can come out. Oh but when he partakes in a random class, it's impossible. The show tries to hide this facade of the MC retaining his intelligence and mental faculties when they want to show he's more composed than the girl, ignoring the fact that he skipped 3 damn years of his college (not to mention his mother doesn't even give a damn about it) yet trying to make you sympathize by using his anxiety as nothing more than a convenient plot tool. The suicide scene was the last straw though, I actually found that pretty offensive. Inocentz said: I've watched things that made me uncomfortable but never offended. Why would you get offended by fiction? I've just never understood why people get offended by things that aren't real. It makes no sense to me. Just because it's fictional doesn't mean it can't be offensive. It's a matter of whether it's done in good taste. Something tasteless and controversial can easily become offensive, e.g. hitler jokes. |
MintOct 11, 2015 8:27 PM
Oct 11, 2015 8:27 PM
#190
robis798 said: too bad because that's basically the whole show in a nutshellRed_Keys said: Renji- said: How's shigatsu offensive? lol http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1285841&show=330#msg39226476 Your post there has absolutely zero worth since you've only seen one episode. Like literally, completely valueless rant. Making such rants after one episode is beyond dumb in general but here in this show it's almost retarded. absentminded said: Its offensive to the restaurant ownerDark_Lord9 said: the guys does too. it's equal now.Shitcom was offensive. Truly seeing a woman shiting from her mouth...disgusting. |
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Oct 11, 2015 8:30 PM
#191
Mahouka is pretty god damn racist |
Oct 11, 2015 8:39 PM
#192
Remv_quevav said: well, i can't argue with this one.absentminded said: Its offensive to the restaurant ownerDark_Lord9 said: Shitcom was offensive. Truly seeing a woman shiting from her mouth...disgusting. |
Oct 11, 2015 8:44 PM
#193
SeibaaHomu said: Mahouka is pretty god damn racist Cause the "Chinese are the enemy" *rolls eyes* The GAA is not made up of just the Chinese. |
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Oct 11, 2015 8:48 PM
#194
SeibaaHomu said: Mahouka is pretty god damn racist This. |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
Oct 11, 2015 9:06 PM
#195
My vote is for "Space Pirate Sara" What a piece of junk! |
Oct 11, 2015 9:13 PM
#196
Legendary |
Oct 11, 2015 9:19 PM
#197
Toei said: o////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////Legendary HEIL MEIN FUHRER!!!!!! |
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Oct 11, 2015 9:21 PM
#198
Toei said: Legendary Legend of Koizumi seems so awesome, honestly. It looks less "offensive" and more over-the top. |
ゴロゴロゴロ ゴロゴロゴロ ゴロゴロゴロ ゴロゴロゴロ ゴゴゴゴゴゴ ゴゴゴゴゴゴ ゴゴゴゴゴゴ |
Oct 11, 2015 9:24 PM
#199
"Unlike the Americans who were just brainless savages, the Japanese players were able to think and regroup to protect the Rulid Village and all the Fluclights." - Original Sword Art Online Web Novel (Battle of the Underworld) "The Koreans and Chinese were blinded by rage, by their hatred towards the Japanese. It was pitiful to see how pathetic they were, easily giving into the lies of Gabriel and PoH. Only if they had listened to the words of the Japanese players this entire war could have been avoided" - Original Sword Art Online Web Novel (Battle of the Underworld) If SAO gets a third season I really want to see if it will still continue to be popular after that airs. |
Oct 11, 2015 9:30 PM
#200
PASWG is extremely offensive towards religious sentiments... except it then turns around and justifies and pays homage to them, so it's a mixed bag. Code Geass has some brutal stereotypes of Chinese people, as well as the Brits. I heard Akame Ga Kill was super offensive. |
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