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Dec 22, 2013 9:00 AM

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Oh shi- I'm speechless, though I'll still comment on here.
I don't want this to end.
Dec 22, 2013 10:03 AM
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That cliffhanger! Kaiki you dun goofed! cant wait for the next and final episode.
Dec 22, 2013 10:24 AM
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Don't worry, Kaiki.
You're still a boss.
Dec 22, 2013 11:35 AM
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Well, Kaiki's solution wasn't that great at all... since the only one who would've died in a car accident was Senjougahara .-.

Still , Awesome episode <3

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Dec 22, 2013 12:34 PM

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Damn this episode and damn that cliffhanger !!

So guys I have a theory on how Nadeko figured out Kaiki's intentions.

At the end of the episode, Kaiki mentioned Araragi, Senjougahara and Shinobu with their full name. The thing is Nadeko never told him their names, she just said she wants to kill Koyomi Onee-chan and his girlfriend and his slave. So how on earth could Kaiki know their names if he wasn't working with them? I even checked the previous episodes and she never mentioned their names. Kaiki screwed up BIG time !
Dec 22, 2013 12:44 PM
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Is Kaiki even a fighter? I know Oshino and Kagenui are pretty strong, but has anything been hinted at with Kaiki?
Dec 22, 2013 1:43 PM
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Kaiki = good guy lol. That can't be the end of Kaiki's plan! Can't wait for next week.
Dec 22, 2013 2:06 PM

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lol .. and now? Kaiki failed?
Will all be saved? or Nadeko will end all?
will be hard to wait a week to know how this will end
I will hold myself to not read the novel and wait for the anime to see how everything will end

Araragi-kun will appear in this arc? The protagonist does not appear in them more than 5 episodes and she still is incredible
this arc being the best ..

for me, 'Monogatari Series: Second Season' already spent 'in Shingeki Kyojin' and became the best anime of the year
I end each episode with a 'lol', 'OMG' and 'WTF' kkk

Go Go last episode
To end 2013 in style!
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lol .. e agora? Kaiki falhou?
Será que todos serão salvos? ou Nadeko irá acabar com todos?
vai ser dificil esperar uma semana para saber como isso irá terminar
vou me segurar para nao ler a novel e esperar o anime para ver como tudo acabará

Araragi-kun irá aparecer neste arco? O protagonista não aparece na historia a mais de 5 episodios e ela continua incrivel
este arco está sendo o melhor ..

para eu, 'Monogatari Series: Second Season' ja passou 'Shingeki no Kyojin' e virou o melhor anime do ano
a cada episodio eu termino com um 'lol', 'OMG' e 'WTF' kkk

go go ultimo episodio
Para acabar 2013 em grande estilo!
Dec 22, 2013 2:18 PM

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crunchyroll is saying that this series will run into the next season.
Dec 22, 2013 2:47 PM

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komic said:
crunchyroll is saying that this series will run into the next season.
That's because Crunchyroll is showing it 5 weeks late...
Dec 22, 2013 3:43 PM

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KAIKI NOOOOOO
I have my own anime blog. It's called Anime Viking. Hope you'll you read it!

Dec 22, 2013 4:09 PM
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OMG CANNOT WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK
HOW THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO WAIT ON THIS FOR 7 MOAR DAYSSSSS
Dec 22, 2013 4:15 PM

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Nice, it was kinda obvious that even an airhead like Nadeko won't fall for that. Great episode 5/5

Did someone say the same lie before?

Nadeko: ''So, you're trying to deceive me too?''

Was it Gaen trying to fuck up the situation? mhmm.


Ugh, I regret watching this episode now, I should have waited till next week and watch the two episodes together.
Dec 22, 2013 4:39 PM

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im glad kaiki lived until the end of this episode :D

FINAL is next week. hope they can make it adapting from the novel.
Dec 22, 2013 4:41 PM

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Kaiki was a good guy all along? Dang.

Really can't wait for next week's episode.
Dec 22, 2013 4:45 PM

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I already knew that it would go wrong. That feeling you get when everything is going right but takes a wrong turn at the end.
MrAwesome2018Dec 22, 2013 5:11 PM
Dec 22, 2013 5:05 PM
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Well...shit.
Dec 22, 2013 5:28 PM
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The last line reminded me of this popular song:

"What's a god to a man
who doesn't believe in
anything?"

Or, I would paraphrase:

"What's a goddess
to a professional deceiver
who doesn't believe
she has any sense?"

I am like "omy, what a waste of money".....
Dec 22, 2013 5:45 PM

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mugi said:
It is only mentioned that Koyomi wouldn't even dare to fight a high schooler version of Kaiki because he's such a badass. Probably on the same level as Meme. Kagenui is a little exception.


I believe Koyomi doesn't dare to meet a teen version of Kaiki because he's afraid of being deceived again, not because he can't fight him
I think Kaiki is the only one in that group of 4 (Gaen, Meme, Kagenui) that can't fight
Dec 22, 2013 5:46 PM

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can anyone tell me if kaiki is a human being or a oddity? he does have vampire teeth and pale skin, so i've been wondering for a while.

nadeko...you sexy bish <3
Dec 22, 2013 7:29 PM

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He's the hero Monogatariland deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. Kaiki.

rip in peace
Dec 22, 2013 8:46 PM

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rest in peace my favorite character , rip kaiki.
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Dec 22, 2013 8:59 PM

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Okay so the closet we keep hinting at in every episode is so insignificant to this show we are not gonna even waste any time telling you what's inside....Really!!!
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Dec 22, 2013 8:59 PM

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bye bye kaiki xD
Dec 23, 2013 12:12 AM

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Run Kaiki! Run!
Dec 23, 2013 1:01 AM

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I feel like Kaiki's bad lie is part of his plan. At least I hope so, cause I really don't want him to die.
Dec 23, 2013 4:31 AM
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This episode was amazing! And dat cliffhanger...

Hopefully he has something else up his sleeve and didn't just underestimate that cute goddess. Cannot imagine that he'd fail so miserably.

Kaiki ftw. So he is less of a bad guy than he is said to be, at least when it comes to Senjougahara. Such a great character. Liked him since his first appearance and he never fails to amaze me :).

Cannot wait for the final episode.
Dec 23, 2013 4:37 AM

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oh my gosh! awesome, I can't wait for the next episode ><
Kaiki, you're awesome! :D
Dec 23, 2013 5:02 AM

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Next week, Heads will Roll!! nyahahah
That yandre face 0.0

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Kizu is never going to be released.

Come on man!! dont jinx it.
I'm practically dying ever since they first announced it that it was postponed.
Dec 23, 2013 7:27 AM

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wait... fuck, how could she tell?
Dec 23, 2013 8:47 AM
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waalex11 said:
wait... fuck, how could she tell?


There is a good chance she always knew, but why would it matter to her now that he was visiting her? She was even happen to have anyone come see her.

He also said they all died in a car accident, knowing that Shinobu and Koyomi are still immortal.
Dec 23, 2013 9:28 AM

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waalex11 said:
wait... fuck, how could she tell?


Well this is one theory I came up with

PhantomFiction said:
So guys I have a theory on how Nadeko figured out Kaiki's intentions.

At the end of the episode, Kaiki mentioned Araragi, Senjougahara and Shinobu with their full name. The thing is Nadeko never told him their names, she just said she wants to kill Koyomi Onee-chan and his girlfriend and his slave. So how on earth could Kaiki know their names if he wasn't working with them? I even checked the previous episodes and she never mentioned their names. Kaiki screwed up BIG time !


Well some of you might think that Nadeko isn't all that bright to catch this detail, but remember what Kaiki said when he first met her? She pays attention to the details that don't seem important.
Dec 23, 2013 10:18 AM

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PhantomFiction said:
waalex11 said:
wait... fuck, how could she tell?


Well this is one theory I came up with

PhantomFiction said:
So guys I have a theory on how Nadeko figured out Kaiki's intentions.

At the end of the episode, Kaiki mentioned Araragi, Senjougahara and Shinobu with their full name. The thing is Nadeko never told him their names, she just said she wants to kill Koyomi Onee-chan and his girlfriend and his slave. So how on earth could Kaiki know their names if he wasn't working with them? I even checked the previous episodes and she never mentioned their names. Kaiki screwed up BIG time !


Well some of you might think that Nadeko isn't all that bright to catch this detail, but remember what Kaiki said when he first met her? She pays attention to the details that don't seem important.


Feasible, but it might also be that Bakaragi visited her shrine the night before or that she was suspicious of Kaiki from the get go, even that she pretended to not remember him because she was feeling lonely or bored... or even that she simply doesn't want to believe him since she will never get to satisfy her will. She might even testing whether Kaiki is lying... there are too many possibilities, and almost no facts to make an educated guess in this case.
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Dec 23, 2013 11:17 AM

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Well crap. He's fucking done for. D:

DAMMIT KAIKI I KNOW YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE IN YOUR SLEEVE!


Dec 23, 2013 12:42 PM

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Malkuth said:
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My take on the issue is that Medusako didn't see through the lie, she just can't accept it. Like Hanekawa said in the beginning of the episode: "No matter what anyone says, their words cannot reach her.", meaning that she doesn't believe the lie, but for a different reason. She can hear and comprehend what Kaiki said, but just cannot accept it, denying it to a point where what was actually being said, be it fact or lies, is irrelevant.

My two cents.

I do think that this was part of the plan though.
Dec 23, 2013 12:57 PM

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Syntriate said:
Malkuth said:
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My take on the issue is that Medusako didn't see through the lie, she just can't accept it. Like Hanekawa said in the beginning of the episode: "No matter what anyone says, their words cannot reach her.", meaning that she doesn't believe the lie, but for a different reason. She can hear and comprehend what Kaiki said, but just cannot accept it, denying it to a point where what was actually being said, be it fact or lies, is irrelevant.

My two cents.

I do think that this was part of the plan though.


I think I included it in the possibilities... I won't risk a guess, everything I mentioned has its merits and weaknesses to make me think that any one is more likely then any other.
Dec 23, 2013 1:38 PM

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Only problem with being a reader is I can't be a guesser...
Dec 23, 2013 2:04 PM

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Oh shit! Nadeko saw right through it. Kaiki is going to die. Hopefully, not before he reveals what's in her closet.
Is it just me, or is there a very strong possibility that Kaiki is/was in love with Senjougahara?

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Dec 23, 2013 2:14 PM

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hpulley said:
Only problem with being a reader is I can't be a guesser...


And let's keep it that way here ;)

But can you PM me what the hell is in that damn closet, please!

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Oh shit! Nadeko saw right through it. Kaiki is going to die. Hopefully, not before he reveals what's in her closet.
Is it just me, or is there a very strong possibility that Kaiki is/was in love with Senjougahara?


Yeah, like Hitagi is over him? She even stuttered when she tried to say the opposite... which was one of her cutest moments. Anyway, as Yotsugi said, Kaiki doesn't want to take advantage of her because he did and still does love her, which makes him vulnerable.
Dec 23, 2013 10:15 PM

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Shit just hit the fan...i expect lots of gore, death, destruction, limb loss and more destruction

Damn Kaiki was GOOD!!!! :O
Dec 24, 2013 7:25 AM

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this is storytelling, like a boss. and shaft doing a beautiful work.

no regrets from sticking with the show since bakemonogatari.
Dec 24, 2013 7:29 AM

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I believe Nadeko is just limited to her own little world like Hanekawa said and won't attempt to accept Kaiki's word merely because it is not suitable for her closed off world. Or maybe she doesn't believe in Kaiki's word because right before he relayed the false information to her he said don't trust words. Either way, Kaiki's best course of action at this point would be to say, "I bit my tongue" (like Hachikuji) and hope for the best.
Dec 24, 2013 7:46 AM

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Malkuth said:
hpulley said:
Only problem with being a reader is I can't be a guesser...


And let's keep it that way here ;)

But can you PM me what the hell is in that damn closet, please!...
Done!

And if Shaft skips anything important which confirms or denies any of the guesses here, I'll post them on Saturday. For now I will neither confirm nor deny that people have guessed correctly ;-)
Dec 24, 2013 10:46 AM

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I literally just said "Oh shit" as that ended.
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Dec 24, 2013 10:51 AM

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It seems it was hinted that Kaiki might have lingering feelings for Senjougahara or it's just me overthinking things.
Dec 24, 2013 11:37 AM

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That was quite an "oh shit" ending. I can't wait for next week.
Dec 24, 2013 8:52 PM

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Even Nadeko should know it would take more than a traffic accident to kill off Araragi, she's beaten him up to pulp multiple times already...is what I immediately thought when Kaiki first mentioned the plan.

Can't wait for the finale!
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Dec 24, 2013 9:16 PM
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Kaiki's clear mistake was in assuming Nadeko actually cares about Araragi and Senjougahara. Hanekawa even spelled it out for him in their conversation, Nadeko is interested in nobody but herself. The whole Araragi debacle is something she's just telling herself. The whole issue has always been that Nadeko wants someone to treat her like the scum she sees herself as.

Kaiki likely would have realized this easily if he was acting like himself. But his obvious feelings for Senjougahara made him focus on that aspect and blinded him.
Dec 24, 2013 10:14 PM

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The whole issue has always been that Nadeko wants someone to treat her like the scum she sees herself as.


Not true. That is your personal opinion and you guessed it wrong.
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