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GodOfTomatoes said: What I'm confused about is, doesn't the holy grail summon rains of fire from the sky when you destroy it? Wouldn't that mean if Seig succeeds and destroys the greater grail, the whole world would be consumed in flame? This is a partial reference to fate/zero. No. in F/Z Forgot to add: |
Fenryr19Dec 27, 2017 1:56 PM
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| Hmm so Amakusa actually wished for some infinite tsukuyomi lul Wonder what Jeanne meant when she said she would definitely meet Sieg again, are they gonna pull off an after-life-Avalon-esque ending or something? |
| RIP Ruler? Not sure what she meant by seeing Sieg again. Sieg’s power up was meh but the action was still badass. |
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Siv3001 said: Correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't the whole point of the Jack the ripper stuff for character development to show Sieg how messed up humanity can be. I mean he was all "bruh humans is fukt up" at the end of that arc.then there was also the whole thing about him being seen as a disposable homonculous by humans too. So why is he all against Shirous plan anyway? Or did the writers forget about the character development they gave Sieg about him realizing humans aren't such a great species You got everything wrong, and I believe you just missed all the point of Jeanne words. The point of Jack arc was to show Sieg how humanity is not just happiness and peace, but despair and chaos. This made Sieg to doubt about what he was fighting for, but thanks to Jeanne he understood that not because everything is shit you should just give up and lose hope. Or like Jeanne said, "after the Dark of the despair comes the light of hope" ( not exact words but was something like that ). She also mentioned Sieg before, that not because some humans sin or hurt others, means all are the same. This adding that, Amakusa is not doing salvation, he's just going to kill all the humans physically and will just let their souls with no purpose. I don't really see how's that salvation... |
| Damn, as soon as Jeanne turned badass final white form with the hair down she died. Didnt get to experience the full glory that is Jeanne final white form. I have a feeling Sieg and Leticia aren't going to get to have a happy ending after all of this either. Seeing as how Seig just took a stab to the heart followed by suicide Blasted Tree which probably still wont kill Shirou. Though maybe still hope for spirit Sieg and Jeanne? People want to complain about Sieg getting powers but dont want to point out that Semiramis has more gary-stu going on for her than him? Bitch had her spirit core broken and still came back. |
| Another amazing episode It is far better than any of the action from fate/stay night UBW |
| go damn that was awesome also rip Jeanne |
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Jonesy974 said: People want to complain about Sieg getting powers but dont want to point out that Semiramis has more gary-stu going on for her than him? Bitch had her spirit core broken and still came back. Mordred went out of the way to intentionally not kill her. The moment she dies, the entire flying castle everyone's in (which is her Noble Phantasm) will collapse and disappear. |
GodOfTomatoes said: _Peksi said: Sigh I knew it wasn't gonna happen, but I was still hoping for Shirou to succeed. Well thanks to Ruler and Sieg, people get to keep dying in pain and misery with many of them not being able to anything about it. They are the true villains of this story. You do know shirou was talking about killing everyone right? He was only planning to do it painlessly, but everyone would still die. I'm pretty sure he was talking about elevating everyone from physical beings to spiritual beings. So I guess it's means "death" for the physical bodies, but really it's just going from one type of being to another. Like he also stated that: humanity would reach this state eventually and he's just speeding up the process people would become immortal without losing emotions like love |
_PeksiDec 29, 2017 10:15 AM
| I've completely forgot what happened to Fiore? Someone please remind me. Was she killed? Not explained? |
| STELLA!!!!!! oh, wait wrong servant |
| My Guitar Covers: Playlist I CAN ALWAYS SHOW MY EVERYTHING TO YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUU |
| I'm gonna be honest, I was here ready to laugh at my boy Shirou's sixty year plan being destroyed by a random homunculus, but damn, even with those plotshields, Shirou still managed to won on the sword fight. I'm so proud of you mah boi Gilles was incredible, and Jeanne's last words to him was feels. At least she died as a character, I guess?? oh and Caules moment was cute. This sword fight was the best fight at the anime, I didn't expected that they would be able to make it better than the novel. lol La Pucelle anime version was okay, but I prefer the novel's one. time to see the ultimate bullshit next episode, yay? |
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| So Berserk was with Sieg, that's why he keep alive...Jeanne is dead. |
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| Even if they are two worse characters of the series their battle is still enjoyable to watch. I am quite surprised that Jeanne died, although is still have my doubts whatever she really died or didn't. Oh well one episode left, I am little afraid thought as the holy grail is still out there right, so it's possible we get some king of BS ending with Sieg wishing for everyone to get resurrected or something. Hopefully it won't be the case. |
| Oh My God! Sieg is sooooooo EPIC BADASS! 5/5! |
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| Another deus ex machina.. anyone's counting it? |
| Amazing episode! It's a shame some of the scenes felt unfinished. Of course BD should be able to fix that. Yeah, Berserker's fragment being inserted to Sieg the last minute feels very cheap. What's stopping Saber and others from doing the same as well?? Ruler is gone :( I guess Leticia will be left behind only? Last episode!! |
| Again, another great episode and Sieg's and Shirou's fight was just amazing. RIP Ruler. Loved her Noble Phantasm. |
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| I didn't like that mess of a story at all but I really have nothing to say to these fights. They're nailing them. |
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| We rarely got fight using lightning elements I guess? Green lightning to add moreover. The animation is off... But I guess I am not that perfectionist and accept what I got. I really lost my interest after my favorites gone. Jeanne next to go too. |
| Life isn't as fun and easy as anime. Watch anime to bring that fun!! |
| Jeanne's and Gille's relationship is so sweet if you forget about all the fucked up stuff he did in Zero and to those kids in his backstory This is why I've been putting off finishing this show. I knew people were gonna be dropping like flies since it's a Fate series ;_; |
| what an asspull... |
| An admin's dickhead Soul banned me from MAL t('v't) |
| At some time it's said that Sieg CS doesn't disappear yet now it disappear completely. Plot hole. Lol I don't think Shirou's wish include him transforming into some kind of like......... I don't know what it is. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| So of course the most boring character will be the one who defeats the big baddy in the end. Meh. |
| I like the series and the episode, but I thought the philosophy in this episode was exceptionally bad. The arguments for why Amakusa Shirou's plan is bad are extremely poor. It was pure status quo bias: "The human condition sucks, but we like it anyway! So don't you dare do anything that would change the human condition, you... villain!" Notably, Jeanne and Amakusa have one trait in common that was central to their lives: They are both CHRISTIAN. You would think that this would come up in an argument about the salvation of mankind, seeing as how salvation is kind of a big deal in Christianity. But it is not brought up. Jeanne COULD have gone with something like this: "Man is sinful and flawed, and you cannot fix that. Only God can fix it - and He already has. Salvation for Man already exists in the form of Jesus Christ. Your attempt to change the human condition using magic is a violation of the First Commandment: 'Thou shalt have no other gods before me'!" Something like that. I'm not Christian; someone with a better grasp of theology can no doubt formulate a better argument than I can. Personally, I wouldn't particularly buy the above argument, but it would make sense in the story. It would make sense for Jeanne to believe it. It would make far better sense for her character than some generic shounen bullshit about how the status quo is fine-and-dandy. JDartrix said: HeroVladimir93 said: The philosophical battle between Jeanne and Amakusa felt like Amakusa was the one presenting logical and well-founded arguments while Jeanne was just using empty platitudes. Then comes Sieg, who delivers a speech so corny that Superman, Jean-Luc Picard or Optimus Prime wouldn't say it. Amakusa's wish is actually Evil. He will basically turn everyone into mindless zombies in the form of Soul. No need to eat sleep feel love hate etc. You will only Exist. It is a World of Good simply because nothing will happen. In a more accurate sense, it is a world where the will of humans are forcefully controlled. It is like living in North Korea but imagine only thinking about Kim Jong Un every second. Is this explained in the anime? Or is it from the LN? I don't remember this being specified in the anime. You can sort of infer that Jeanne and Sieg think this will be the result, but it is not argued properly. This is especially disappointing considering that the Nasuverse usually distinguishes itself by at least TRYING to be philosophical. I usually find Nasu's attempts at philosophy to be pretentious and vapid, but this generic shounen blabla is somehow worse. Good episode otherwise. |
| Damn one twist after the other... caster was alive... seems like at last one servant will survive |
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| Sad Kotomine Shirou .. |
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| ok lets be real. Real MVP of this entire fucking anime? Frankenstein . Couldn't of done it without her, definitely giving her a grail after this. Whoop, i never in my sad years of living on this planet think i would ever write this, but good guy Gilles practically got his redemption arc! Jeanne's 2nd NP was...eh but seeing her final ascension clothing was a nice touch. Seig vs Amakusa at first felt stupid, suddenly Seig using the power of love can keep up with a ruler class servant but thank go it completely wasn't. The logic behind it made sense with Fran's blasted tree starting his heart and more or less implanting herself into him and i actually enjoyed the battle. Fight scene was oooo crisp and seeing Blasted Tree for a second time was HOT. god this would of been 5/5 episode if it wasn't for such, painfully cringe romance. Like i get the gist but it feels like they are forcing the romance on us like "You will like it" and i still can't see the love interest from Jeanne to Seig. |
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| So the plot armor stays strong as always to it's full potential. Ruler's prince, Sieg comes to save her... The first half was somewhat enjoyable but after that it all just starts to go towards the well-being and the wished of Sieg. We get yet another plot armor in the end fight, and this time we see berserker lending Sieg her strength and how the hell did she even survived? If it was made with better plot and only few plot armor, maybe-maybe it would have been good like just other Fate series. I can't even enjoy how this sow is completely bias towards Sieg, no not towards Black side but only to Sieg. |
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