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What do you think of the police?
Bunch of pussies
5.1%
5
Bunch of pansies
3.1%
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Bunch of clowns
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Bunch of arseholes
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6
Bunch of morons
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Bunch of heroes
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Bunch of bullies
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Bunch of dickheads
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Oct 30, 2020 8:42 AM
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Before BLM and post BLM have your thoughts about the police changed at all?

I have never liked the police. Growing up black in a white man’s country all I see is police giving me and mine abuse. And when we need them for something they aren’t very helpful. When my sister was raped we were supposed to get moved out of the area but it never happened. They liked to target me a lot to search me for whatever reason or because I fit some profile or description. One time an unmarked vehicle with plain clothed police aggressively pulled up behind me as I parked my car at a library that I was about to head into. They dragged me out of the car and threw up up against a fence and started to search me. One of them flashed a bag. They then searched my car for drugs and weapons. Why? Just because I was young and had a hatchback Vauxhall Corsa with tinted windows, fresh rims, a sub woofer speaker and underglow neon lights (my first car). That was the worst search I endured but it wasn't the only one lol.

Sometimes someone calls the police on me and fortunately the police actually listen to my side of things so they aren’t always bad. I always treat the police with respect but there is evidence of police abusing people who are compliant aswell.

When I see police I see a threat when I should be seeing a helping hand. It sucks because I have a personality type (ISTJ) that is well suited to police and as I kid I was in the police cadets for a year.
But even when I see black police they are often only community support and seem to be treated worse than their white and Asian counterparts so why the fuck would I join?

I almost joined the fire brigade aswell but the RAF got back to me first so I declined the offer to be a firefighter 👩‍🚒
And I only joined the RAF because it appeared to be very diverse but I was bamboozled. Still it wasn’t anywhere near as bad as it would have been for me had I joined the police. I would be hated by my coworkers and the civilian population (all races would hate me).

Police mistakenly arrest undercover FBI agent who was secretly investigating them.

How do you guys feel about the police?



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Oct 30, 2020 8:50 AM
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probably all of the above poll options.

if i see the police, i do feel a bit of fear to be honest, probably because i do not like false accusations.

also if i see them patrolling an area i assume some shit is going down so i go the opposite direction.
Oct 30, 2020 8:51 AM
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Can't say about the police worldwide but at least in my country the police are fine, every time I've interacted with them, they have done their job well, no problem and I think the public opinion of the police in my country is that they are just people doing their job, not evil nor heroes.

After BLM stuff there has been some people trying on purpose to make the police lose their minds and doing something that can't be justified any way, but so far everything the police have done to stop any of these people disturbing things have been by the book. So basically these people have tried to make the police look bad but instead have made themselves look bad.
Oct 30, 2020 9:01 AM
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I don't have a strong opinion for or against the police, but what I can say is that I'm happy they exist, otherwise I would feel a lot less safe in this world.
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Oct 30, 2020 9:18 AM
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As a devout lolicon and a "person of color" with an astonishing metric of 1/8th African blood flowing through my very veins (my great grandma was a full-on "negro"; holy shit, plot twist amirite?!), they make me a tad uncomfortable, NGL.

But I will say cops are definitely necessary in today's society (if all the violent riots and arson weren't already proof enough). I just think they need better training and should carry those video monitoring devices at all times to help them maintain "proper conduct". So, in other words, "REFUND THE POLICE!"

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Oct 30, 2020 9:29 AM
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I liked the cops before 2020 and I like them even more after all the events that took place.
Oct 30, 2020 9:31 AM
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The police here were always powerhungry arseholes that hate young people, now they just got slightly more racist. Or maybe they just got exposed for being racist because they were confronted with people of color for the first time idk.

Either way I prefer crime prevention measures over punishment ones. Like yes, let detectives and judges put murderers in jail, but like don't let juvie exist when you can invest into therapry programs y'know. Focus on the root of the problem to break the cycle and all that.
Oct 30, 2020 9:56 AM
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Awesome. My friend from high school is in the lapd to. And he is an poor oppressed black man to.
Oct 30, 2020 9:59 AM
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I want to fuck the police. (The female officers.)
Oct 30, 2020 10:02 AM
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i dont like them, I think they are morons
Oct 30, 2020 10:02 AM

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I have a rather favourable view of the police. Also, I recall having done a similar topic years ago:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1518987

Sadly, I can't recall in full what the deleted video was about. Some motorcycle control I think

As for the video in the OP: even if the guy was an undercover agent, he acted very unprofessional by making a scene and then using swear words. He should have just been taken away and then filled a complaint or forwarded his report to his superiors in order to protect his identity

The reason why there is so much police brutality, is because people struggle too much instead of complying with the arrest and trusting in the law system
Oct 30, 2020 10:24 AM

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can't pick multiple options sadly..
if you're a cop, you're a bitch. you're a glorified taxi that shuttle poor people to cages, and you have the right to use violence to get these poor people to the cages if you feel like it's necessary. don't worry about making any tiny mistakes like accidentally killing one or two of those poor people though, your homies got your back. you'll get a paid vacation and possibly get your ass moved to a new state, where you can start over. and if you happen to develop PTSD from killing an innocent person, like with phil brailsford, again, no need to worry. we will give you a special pension to make sure you're taken care of for the rest of your life.
i do appreciate the bike cops who go around and check on homeless. i don't believe these guys even have guns on them a lot of the time. no problem with these guys. but the average beat cop? no respect.
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Oct 30, 2020 10:37 AM

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This is how most people feel about the police here lol

Tfw you don't know which poll option to vote for because all of them besides "heroes" applies.
Oct 30, 2020 10:52 AM

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It always depends on who is controlling the police. If the dictator is good, the police is good as well. If the dictator is bad, the police is bad as well. Which is why it's always important to make it sure that a dictator is only allowed to govern a region small enough in order for it to be possible for the people to overthrow him in case he is bad, and this also requires the possibility of the people to own weapons at least as powerful as the ones owned by the police or the military. As long as the police is acting according to God's laws, the decent citizens will play the game and act as if they respect the artificial authority possessed by the police, but when decent citizens begin to be regarded as criminals by the state precisely for defending and trying to live according to God's laws because the people who are arbitrarily regulating the constitution mean to fight against God, then it's perfectly justifiable for the people to rebel against the established government, and, in this case, the dishonest ones who accuse the people of being criminals are the real wrongdoers who are acting against humanity.
What I'm writing does not correspond to the whole situation involving the "Black Lives Matter" movement, since in the United States the police is really mostly on the right side nowadays, but this is not always the case. In Brazil, for example, the policemen that follow the orders coming from the vampires of the "supreme federal court" really do not deserve any respect at all, and the conservative victims should always resist arrest if they want to preserve their self-respect.
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Oct 30, 2020 11:03 AM
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SoftImpaler said:
I liked the cops before 2020 and I like them even more after all the events that took place.

Lol I was wondering where you’ve been. Started to think you might have somehow gotten yourself banned. Anyway I am glad you are not targeting me in a thread for once.

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i mean, you can make your case about the police being bad but its kinda weird to give options for all negative and one positive. whilst there are bad cops, the vast majority are good people who want to help. they are heroes. just because a minority causes a problem doesnt mean the whole group is problematic. look at islam, there are extremists but what they stand for isnt what the majority of peaceful folk do.

Well there are actually only two poll options if you do the math.
Oct 30, 2020 11:34 AM

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None of the above.

They are fairly normal people trying their best to do their job right... Some of them will be heroes... Some of them will be bullies... And some of them will do nothing except eat donuts every day 😂 because there's hardly anything to do where they live.
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Oct 30, 2020 11:42 AM

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None of the above.

There are rotten apples on every aspect of every profession, judge a working-class that sometimes has to put their own lives before others is not really the best way to solve issues.

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Oct 30, 2020 11:50 AM

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Nice poll options.

Police aren't bad. They're just doing their job and some people love to be overdramatic and problematic for some internet views.
Bad people exist in any job role, just as much as far, far more good ones do.
'Authority bad' is the cheapest excuse I have ever heard for someone not having the ability to commit crime unpunished.

In short, ACAB is just filled with people thirsty for views and sympathy... I can't tell you how simple-minded it is to think that a whole group of people behave in a certain way.
Oct 30, 2020 11:58 AM
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its kinda unfair you only put one good things and rest is bad thing. some cops are good but some are Hypocrites. doing unlawful thing when off duty.
Oct 30, 2020 12:20 PM

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Nice options
don't know haven't really interacted with one
Oct 30, 2020 12:58 PM

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I only ever interacted with a cop twice or thrice all my life, but I'm of the opinion that the police force should invest in decent aftercare training for its officers.
Oct 30, 2020 1:03 PM
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never interacted with one so can't really say

Oct 30, 2020 1:25 PM
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People who are trying to do their jobs...? You know, if you mind complying with them, maybe everyone would be much happier, right..?
Oct 30, 2020 2:59 PM
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The cops I like the best are the ones that escort high profile people. Such a cool job. I would have aimed for that if I ever joined the police. Most likely I wouldn't have gotten that job though.



Also here is a funny clip from the I-Spy movie. Not really about the police but about how if a white person accuses a black person most of the time people will take the white person's word for it.



And a funny video from Starsky & Hutch showing corrupt policing. Both of these clips have Owen Wilson lol. He's always so funny!
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Mummykun said:
It always depends on who is controlling the police. If the dictator is good, the police is good as well. If the dictator is bad, the police is bad as well. Which is why it's always important to make it sure that a dictator is only allowed to govern a region small enough in order for it to be possible for the people to overthrow him in case he is bad, and this also requires the possibility of the people to own weapons at least as powerful as the ones owned by the police or the military. As long as the police is acting according to God's laws, the decent citizens will play the game and act as if they respect the artificial authority possessed by the police, but when decent citizens begin to be regarded as criminals by the state precisely for defending and trying to live according to God's laws because the people who are arbitrarily regulating the constitution mean to fight against God, then it's perfectly justifiable for the people to rebel against the established government, and, in this case, the dishonest ones who accuse the people of being criminals are the real wrongdoers who are acting against humanity.
What I'm writing does not correspond to the whole situation involving the "Black Lives Matter" movement, since in the United States the police is really mostly on the right side nowadays, but this is not always the case. In Brazil, for example, the policemen that follow the orders coming from the vampires of the "supreme federal court" really do not deserve any respect at all, and the conservative victims should always resist arrest if they want to preserve their self-respect.

Oooh I really love the way that you've phrased it here. Very well put! I'll tell you what the guys in the RAF always used to tell me, "Good points, well presented!"

It is a big problem when the police look at citizens as targets / enemies and dehumanize them. Good example form Rick & Morty.
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What else can a cop do in this situation? After repeatedly telling the dude to drop off the weapon lol it's easy to criticize the popo without putting ourselves in their position, I'd have done the exact same thing to protect my own life.

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What else can a cop do in this situation? After repeatedly telling the dude to drop off the weapon lol it's easy to criticize the popo without putting ourselves in their position, I'd have done the exact same thing to protect my own life.

In this situation its totally justified. The problem is most times they kill someone who is unarmed.
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BannedAkko said:

In this situation its totally justified. The problem is most times they kill someone who is unarmed.


It depends on how we interpret "most times", is it 1 in 10 cases? 1 in 100? As well as what happens in each of those cases, if most of the cases are like the one I showcase then it is what it is. There's a lot of factors to consider. Strangely I don't see a lot of studies done on this particular subject.... would love to see more data so I know what's exactly going on instead of relying on fake news and propaganda

All I now is that there's a very valid reason as to why American police is more jumpy than the rest of the world and there's a valid reason as to why American will never be able to stop their 2nd amendment

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Oct 30, 2020 4:07 PM

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To be fair, Police are human beings and different minds of thinking.

Some could be okay and some can act like ***hles.

In general, when we think of police as the justice to prevent crime and catching the bad guys. Times have changed and some police can be racist or bias in some way

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Police brutality is definitely an issue, but when people say ACAB and Defund the Police, that kinda shit pisses me off.
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I've quite the fondness aimed at the Gestapo.


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BannedAkko said:
The cops I like the best are the ones that escort high profile people. Such a cool job. I would have aimed for that if I ever joined the police. Most likely I wouldn't have gotten that job though.
Yes I agree that it's interesting to watch them escort VIPs

This one is way more impressive:

https://youtu.be/R1hEzWDMhaw?t=182

Or this:

https://youtu.be/5mVH413xWNI?t=96

Also, I like fighter jet escorts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXiTWefqVEI

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Noboru said:
BannedAkko said:
The cops I like the best are the ones that escort high profile people. Such a cool job. I would have aimed for that if I ever joined the police. Most likely I wouldn't have gotten that job though.
Yes I agree that it's interesting to watch them escort VIPs

This one is way more impressive:

https://youtu.be/R1hEzWDMhaw?t=182

Or this:

https://youtu.be/5mVH413xWNI?t=96

Also, I like fighter jet escorts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXiTWefqVEI


Those videos are epic! Yes things like this are great to see and in an ideal world this sort of thing would be my dream job. I loved doing Drill & Ceremonial stuff in the Air Force.
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Those videos are epic! Yes things like this are great to see and in an ideal world this sort of thing would be my dream job. I loved doing Drill & Ceremonial stuff in the Air Force.
Hehe, I'm glad you've liked them! :D
Oh that sounds cool! I can't imagine doing stuff like this myself, but it's always impressive to watch well-trained people doing the change of guard or how the Japanese foreign minister was welcomed in pre-WW2 Germany

Look at the happy faces of the women and the police at 2:46 onwards (pause at 2:49)

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I've quite the fondness aimed at the Gestapo.
Do you wager that, if Hugo Boss were to design police uniforms, ACAB would end?
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I've quite the fondness aimed at the Gestapo.
Do you wager that, if Hugo Boss were to design police uniforms, ACAB would end?
Only if with the uniforms they get access to democratic beatings and executions.


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Oct 30, 2020 5:43 PM

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I understand that all cops aren't bad
But the police honestly suck, I dont know anyone that feels safe with the police. I always felt uneasy with them and I dont break the law.
Their job is to protect and serve but almost no one that I know ACTUALLY FEEL SAFE around them.
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The thing is, competence is defined on the bad days, not the good days. If you don't fail the good days, then that is just the bare minimum. But on the bad days, being in a position of authority requires you to do the right thing. And if, as a cop, you never violate anyone's rights normally, but you don't step up when you're partner does or the department is standing up for the bad apples in the thin line of blue, and you're just there because everyone else is there, then you are still part of the problem.

I don't know why no one understands this. Who cares how good the economy was before the pandemic? What's important is how the leaders respond in times of trouble that defines their mettle. And cops are no exception.

Now we've all run into cops that are nice people, probably let you off with a warning, but when something goes wrong, we find that none of them stand up for you. That's what we find in the news with BLM. Probably none of the other 3 cops in the George Floyd incident would have caused a problem on their own, but what was important is that none of them stood up to Derek Chauvin. Just like none of the Buffalo police stood up to the police that shoved an old man; in fact, they all quit the team to stand in solidarity. Just like none of the police in Atlanta, Georgia defended Rayshard Brooks when he was shot in the back. Instead, they defended the actions of the "bad apples" every time.

How can you call yourself one of the good guys if you stand up for the bad guys? Think back in high school, if a kid was rooting on the school bully but didn't beat anyone up himself, is he a good kid? No. He didn't cause the incident but he was an accomplice. He didn't report the bullying he covered for the bully. He didn't stop the bully, he cheered him on. Because it was the easy thing for him to do. These are not good apples.

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Where's the none of the above choice?

Police were made to PROTECT us. Without them, you'd be wondering daily if that day's your last. Delusional af if you think that police should be defunded, too. BLM is just as equally as violent. If a few police are gonna represent the whole police force, why can't the BLM riots (which are 95% of all riots btw) represent the group itself?
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Police are corrupt here not to say many are the minister's lackey reforms should be made but I won't ever neglect the fact that the police gave their life for. Capturing a terrorist
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police do nothing but bad, all of them are corrupt since the system is corrupt

I've never really been a fan of them before like blm and such since my father is very anti police. Plus my house was swatted for no reason and my dad had a gun pointed at his head, made me him more scared of cops.

Cops are taught that criminals should be shot and they just shouldn't, cops aren't vigilantes, they are meant to take in a criminal, not kill them even if they did a fucking terrible crime.

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Where's the none of the above choice?

Police were made to PROTECT us. Without them, you'd be wondering daily if that day's your last. Delusional af if you think that police should be defunded, too. BLM is just as equally as violent. If a few police are gonna represent the whole police force, why can't the BLM riots (which are 95% of all riots btw) represent the group itself?


Well lots of people don't feel safe around cops. Simply because they are taking their power out of control. Plus the system is corrupt so cops have no choice but to be bad as the laws are so fucked. BLM isn't a corrupt system that puts people in jail up to 15 years for smoking pot.

The violence protests is just wrong Plus Police were also hurting protesters who were peaceful. Cities are not being burnt every day like you might think. Lots of protests are peaceful are still are.

And when people were protesting peacefully, they got kicked off the nfl. They had no choice but to riot because that's the only way they would listen. MLK even said "A riot is the language of the unheard."
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I'll be honest I feel safe now because of them
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I like cops. They saved me and my family multiple times. I respect them for keeping the peace and getting rid of criminals. I'm African american (mixed) but I've never been discriminated against by police.
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BLM in my country did not change anything for comparing the USA and France is outward stupid. That reminds me of Cédric Chouviat who was killed by the police in January this year when he was arrested as he was driving his scooter with his cellphone. He kept saying that he could not breathe... Sounds familiar?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/world/europe/Cedric-Chouviat-police-killing-france.html

The police does not even have to shoot, they use chokeholds ("clefs d'étranglement"), prone restraints ("plaquage ventral"), etc.

"Why the fuck would I join?"

To me, this is the real question here. Why would a mentally sane man (or woman) want to join the police? That is, to choose to live in a daily life of violence, and be forced to participate in all kind of humiliations and morally challenging orders.

Ever heard about what happens to the really peaceful protestors in France? About a hundred of them lost an eye during the "gilets jaunes" (yellow vests) protests. But officially, the police is not aiming at their heads or shooting at blank point with their blast-balls (LBD), that were sold to us during decades as "non-lethal" weapons, but are now merely "less-lethal". What a lovely expression! Less-lethal... this kind of Orwellian words never cease to amuse me.

Yes, entering the police to beat up old people and fragile individuals who protest for their retirement pensions. Sounds about right. Of course, they accomplish all sorts of useful duties, like arresting killing terrorists after they committed their crimes. As if that changed anything about the previous issues. A very compelling argument indeed, that people keep repeating each time the police shoots a criminal.

However, I do not think that policemen are really to blame most of the time, as they are simply doing their job to 1) protect the State 2) protect people. One would have to investigate in their training to understand why those violent arrests happen in the first place.

Personally, I never had issues with the police, and I hope to never have to deal with them.

I go for "a bunch of bullies". Be impolite with the policemen? Prepare yourself to be choked to death.
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The police in my country are extremely corrupt such that no one really bothers to report robberies because they know nothing will really happen. Policing as a concept is good and necessary, though.
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police do nothing but bad, all of them are corrupt since the system is corrupt

I've never really been a fan of them before like blm and such since my father is very anti police. Plus my house was swatted for no reason and my dad had a gun pointed at his head, made me him more scared of cops.

Cops are taught that criminals should be shot and they just shouldn't, cops aren't vigilantes, they are meant to take in a criminal, not kill them even if they did a fucking terrible crime.

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Where's the none of the above choice?

Police were made to PROTECT us. Without them, you'd be wondering daily if that day's your last. Delusional af if you think that police should be defunded, too. BLM is just as equally as violent. If a few police are gonna represent the whole police force, why can't the BLM riots (which are 95% of all riots btw) represent the group itself?


Well lots of people don't feel safe around cops. Simply because they are taking their power out of control. Plus the system is corrupt so cops have no choice but to be bad as the laws are so fucked. BLM isn't a corrupt system that puts people in jail up to 15 years for smoking pot.

The violence protests is just wrong Plus Police were also hurting protesters who were peaceful. Cities are not being burnt every day like you might think. Lots of protests are peaceful are still are.

And when people were protesting peacefully, they got kicked off the nfl. They had no choice but to riot because that's the only way they would listen. MLK even said "A riot is the language of the unheard."


"They had no choice but to riot because that's the only way they would listen."

People clearly do have a choice if they want to riot, nobody is forced to riot.

Also what makes you think people care what a protest group has to say. And it seems you think protest groups rioting to force the masses to accept what the protestors want is a legitimate way of political change, it isn't, it is violence and mob rule. Your post is incredibly anti-democratic.
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I have more thoughts on the institution of police forces than police collectively. It's not like they are all evil but it's not just "a few bad apples in the bunch" either it's all people that get either used by or corrupted by the system and outright psychopaths drawn to it because the position of authority and legal impunity they have. They don't have to be helpless tools in a system but they usually choose to be often either from apathy or ignorance. I don't know about elsewhere but police in various US states have no legal consequences for choosing not to arrest someone for a crime except usually murder. That's so much power to go against unjust laws and so few even use it instead opting for the "just following orders" "just doing my job" mentality and only letting fellow cops and friends off the hook. They also are being placed in roles they dont belong in such as part of the school system and the mental health system. Did you know if you call a suicide hotline in the US if you suggest you will hurt yourself they will track you down and send police over? The poor, mentally ill, and physically disabled get unjustly killed by police more than anyone it seems. Of course I appreciate certain roles they serve but to focus too much on that just brushes the issues aside.
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traed said:
I don't know about elsewhere but police in various US states have no legal consequences for choosing not to arrest someone for a crime except usually murder. That's so much power to go against unjust laws and so few even use it instead opting for the "just following orders" "just doing my job" mentality and only letting fellow cops and friends off the hook.
Considering police forces are a creation of the state to enforce punishment for violating its monopoly of violence and criminal laws are meant to restrict the state's right to punish (ius puniendi), criminal laws are the ones supposed to go against injustice, not the police force, which works for the institutional state and not for people.

I don't know much about the US, but I'm sure the autonomy you mention isn't more than a pretty smokescreen, because that would defeat the police's purpose of enacting the state's rights and interests. The certainty of isonomic prosecution is a must for legal security, without which a rule of law state crumbles.
Oct 31, 2020 6:21 AM

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RunescapeIsGreat said:
Theonewhorules said:
police do nothing but bad, all of them are corrupt since the system is corrupt

I've never really been a fan of them before like blm and such since my father is very anti police. Plus my house was swatted for no reason and my dad had a gun pointed at his head, made me him more scared of cops.

Cops are taught that criminals should be shot and they just shouldn't, cops aren't vigilantes, they are meant to take in a criminal, not kill them even if they did a fucking terrible crime.



Well lots of people don't feel safe around cops. Simply because they are taking their power out of control. Plus the system is corrupt so cops have no choice but to be bad as the laws are so fucked. BLM isn't a corrupt system that puts people in jail up to 15 years for smoking pot.

The violence protests is just wrong Plus Police were also hurting protesters who were peaceful. Cities are not being burnt every day like you might think. Lots of protests are peaceful are still are.

And when people were protesting peacefully, they got kicked off the nfl. They had no choice but to riot because that's the only way they would listen. MLK even said "A riot is the language of the unheard."


"They had no choice but to riot because that's the only way they would listen."

People clearly do have a choice if they want to riot, nobody is forced to riot.

Also what makes you think people care what a protest group has to say. And it seems you think protest groups rioting to force the masses to accept what the protestors want is a legitimate way of political change, it isn't, it is violence and mob rule. Your post is incredibly anti-democratic.


Sure people have the choice to not riot and you know where that got protester, no where. The government didn't fucking listen. Plus anyways most of the riots were again peaceful. That's why you have stopped hearing about them in the news.

Well what is a democratic way to change people? Since about half and maybe a little more support blm, isn't it the will of the people then?
Oct 31, 2020 6:54 AM

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Theonewhorules said:
RunescapeIsGreat said:


"They had no choice but to riot because that's the only way they would listen."

People clearly do have a choice if they want to riot, nobody is forced to riot.

Also what makes you think people care what a protest group has to say. And it seems you think protest groups rioting to force the masses to accept what the protestors want is a legitimate way of political change, it isn't, it is violence and mob rule. Your post is incredibly anti-democratic.


Sure people have the choice to not riot and you know where that got protester, no where. The government didn't fucking listen. Plus anyways most of the riots were again peaceful. That's why you have stopped hearing about them in the news.

Well what is a democratic way to change people? Since about half and maybe a little more support blm, isn't it the will of the people then?


Society doesn't revolve around protestors.
That is not how the Government works, first of all the Federal gov't doesn't have control over State laws and Policing, and the elected government in the States and Federal government serve their voters. Multiple cities were significantly affected by the riots, so arguing that the riots have stopped, doesn't undo the problems caused by the protestors.
Well democracy is about representing the many interests in society, so the idea that everyone people will agree with a specific idea is unlikely, however the party that gets the most supporters win elections and put their own elected officials into office, to do the policy of their voters.
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