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Jul 12, 2017 4:09 AM
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So we get a glimpse of Yuma and Hotaru's childhood. Still a lot of teasing between the two of them though.

Yuma seems pretty likable at school as expected. I think this episode just builds Yuma's life more and her relationship with Hotaru. That amusement park visit seemed fun although Fujiwara shows a different side of himself when he's with Hotaru alone.
Jul 12, 2017 6:21 AM
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I'm so glad they didn't skip this or screw up this material! The glimpse into their childhood was essential to characterizing Yuma and Hotaru and was supposed to come in chapter 1. Other than that swapped detail, the story is now pretty identical to the manga, if not slightly faster paced. The art is better in the manga, but I won't hold it against the staff since they are new and doing a good job conveying the same atmosphere as the manga. I think next chapter will be make -or -break, depending on how they adapt it, will decide how good this anime is overall.
Jul 12, 2017 6:30 AM
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oh shit
this is getting dark

i just wanted a cute yuri hehe
but this is fine too
Jul 12, 2017 6:48 AM
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Poor Takeda,he's definitely not deserving getting NTRd.

While Fujiwara on the other hand seems like a dick, no wonder Hotaru is trying to get some love from Yuma.

So far this isn't that bad, but not particulary good either.

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Jul 12, 2017 6:55 AM
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Takeda is a nice guy while Fujiwara is showing his true colours.

Jul 12, 2017 7:06 AM
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i just wanted a cute yuri hehe
but this is fine too

Be prepared for more. It's not an another cute yuri comedy ;)
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Jul 12, 2017 7:29 AM
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the silver haired is surely a Dick, hmmm Drama intensifies.
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Jul 12, 2017 7:29 AM
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Maybe it wouldnt be THAT bad if it hadnt freaking 9 minutes with OP and ED... but its yuri so I guess its better than nothing...
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Jul 12, 2017 7:32 AM
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The True MVP appears to act and save the episode once more.. I've taken interest on that peasant easily

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This episode is way worst than the first one

2.25/5
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Jul 12, 2017 7:42 AM

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So one of the guys is a dick, while the other one is a fairly nice dude. Looks like orange hair got the better deal here.
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Jul 12, 2017 7:46 AM

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No wonder Hotaru pick and tease Yuma a lot. She's just pick a wrong boyfriend, which might be bad for the future.
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Jul 12, 2017 7:52 AM

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Definitely better than the first episode, but I'd forgotten just how much I hated a lot of these characters!
Jul 12, 2017 8:13 AM

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it's really hilarious to see people saying 'poor hotaru' or 'she just has the wrong boyfriend'.
i read the manga and she is total b*tch, and yuma is not better than her too..
Jul 12, 2017 8:18 AM

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No wonder Hotaru teases Yuma. Her boyfriend is a douchebag. The other guy is nice though.
Jul 12, 2017 8:20 AM

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Better than the first episode. This adaptation is going pretty well.
Jul 12, 2017 8:30 AM

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I want support this NTR and don't want too at the same time why did you do this to me!
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Jul 12, 2017 8:50 AM

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Still pretty middle of the road for me.
Nothing particularly bad or good, just 3,5/5.

But they have their hits, in the scene when fujiwara kick the "car" (i don't know the name of that thing, they were on) in the manga, i didn't felt the panic witch hotaru experience, and the impact of that scene in her overall behavior, on the other hand, in the anime i actually felt the fear that she experiences.

However the animation still get in my nerves, the colors are awkward, and some of the actions too. When Hotaru puts her knee between Yuma legs, in the manga we get a close up, showing why she is blushing and not having the courage of facing Takeda, but in the anime... Oh my freaking god, besides not looking like Hotaru knee is touching where is supposed to touch, they were obviously fucking kissing, in the manga the angle where takeda is, show the he is only able to see the top of their heads, but now it´s seems like he was able to see them kissing, but not notice because he´s a retard.

Maybe i´m overlooking too much, this scene was just passable in the stupid level, on the manga, but here... And this is one of the less stupid scenes, and characters not being completely retarded, which is biggest problem with the story itself. But this is another story.

Spoilers for anyone who haven't read the manga: Sometimes characters are fucking stupid, in way that it´s just annoying.
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Jul 12, 2017 8:53 AM

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Hotaru has no friends because she has no respect for other people's boundaries.

Takeda deserved to smash. Hotaru honestly needs to fuck off. I don't give a shit she's seemingly getting abused by Fujiwara.

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Jul 12, 2017 9:45 AM
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I think the animation has improved in this epp, remains very faithful to the manga, I am satisfied, the next epps promise many things, come the 3rd! \oo/
Jul 12, 2017 10:16 AM

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Takeda is a nice guy, kinda feel bad for him.

Needed more Hotaru x Yuma this episode. xD

I don't like Fujiwara.
Jul 12, 2017 10:24 AM

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More Yuri this episode !!! , Just a bit tho but it's still amazing <3 <3 .. A cool episode they showed us Yuma's and Hotaru's childhood for a bit and Fujiwara showed us a different side of his persona when he's with Hotaru alone , It's kinda scary tho :0 .. And Takeda's really nice and thoughtful about others i kinda of like his character ... Anyways , A good episode and I'm REALLY ready for more Yuri xDD <3 <3 , Looking Forward !!!!
Jul 12, 2017 10:27 AM

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Hotaru must have developed some kind of negative past
Jul 12, 2017 10:27 AM

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it's really hilarious to see people saying 'poor hotaru' or 'she just has the wrong boyfriend'.
i read the manga and she is total b*tch, and yuma is not better than her too..


Victim Blaming is such an outdated bullshit. "she deserved it" or "she brought it upon herself" is literally oldest trick in the misogynist vocabulary.
Jul 12, 2017 10:49 AM

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Fai said:
AyumiVk said:
it's really hilarious to see people saying 'poor hotaru' or 'she just has the wrong boyfriend'.
i read the manga and she is total b*tch, and yuma is not better than her too..


Victim Blaming is such an outdated bullshit. "she deserved it" or "she brought it upon herself" is literally oldest trick in the misogynist vocabulary.


oh, is it? she started going out with fujiwara knowing how he was and then people are saying she's only a poor girl, she also did start going out with him only for a sexual relationship, and then she thinks she can also steal her friend from her boyfriend and do the same thing she does with fujiwara with her.
takeda's the only victim here.
Jul 12, 2017 11:18 AM

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When I'm already sympathizing way more with Takeda than anyone else here it's obvious that this probably isn't for me. But meh, only 9 minute long episodes I'll power through it just to see how it ends.
Jul 12, 2017 11:27 AM

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AyumiVk said:
Fai said:


Victim Blaming is such an outdated bullshit. "she deserved it" or "she brought it upon herself" is literally oldest trick in the misogynist vocabulary.


oh, is it? she started going out with fujiwara knowing how he was and then people are saying she's only a poor girl, she also did start going out with him only for a sexual relationship, and then she thinks she can also steal her friend from her boyfriend and do the same thing she does with fujiwara with her.
takeda's the only victim here.


When a sexual relationship becomes abusive, it's the victim's fault? A sexual relationship does not make raping or molesting someone okay. The victim's actions, whether they be good or bad, does not make them responsible. It's like blaming an insect for getting trodden on.
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Jul 12, 2017 11:30 AM

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AyumiVk said:


oh, is it? she started going out with fujiwara knowing how he was and then people are saying she's only a poor girl, she also did start going out with him only for a sexual relationship, and then she thinks she can also steal her friend from her boyfriend and do the same thing she does with fujiwara with her.
takeda's the only victim here.


When a sexual relationship becomes abusive, it's the victim's fault? A sexual relationship does not make raping or molesting someone okay. The victim's actions, whether they be good or bad, does not make them responsible. It's like blaming an insect for getting trodden on.


if it's like you're saying then she must be a masochist because she's still with him, if she didn't want to be molested or something like that then she could've just stop the relationship. but no, she still wants it.
Jul 12, 2017 11:45 AM

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AyumiVk said:
OPObsessed said:


When a sexual relationship becomes abusive, it's the victim's fault? A sexual relationship does not make raping or molesting someone okay. The victim's actions, whether they be good or bad, does not make them responsible. It's like blaming an insect for getting trodden on.


if it's like you're saying then she must be a masochist because she's still with him, if she didn't want to be molested or something like that then she could've just stop the relationship. but no, she still wants it.


She could be scared or confused. Or that might've been the first time it happened/she felt threatened. I haven't read the manga, so I'm basing this on the first two episodes. But you could be right. She could have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_masochism_disorder . Doesn't mean she brought it on herself if she's mentally ill.

I agree that her actions have been less than favourable. It has nothing to do with the situation with silver-hair though. It's not 'karma' or anything.
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Jul 12, 2017 12:06 PM

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I liked this episode much more than the last one. I liked how we got to see a little backstory for our heroines seeing that Yuma was protecting Hotaru was sweet <3 I like those 2 more than before. Good girl Yuma always looking out for her friend Hotaru even though Hotaru is friendless she tried to get Hotaru to meet her friends, Yuma you are so nice <3
I wish they remained this friendship though and not just started doing all those yuri things, come on Hotaru why'd you go that far. I feel like its because she is very lonely and she has no one but Yuma to rely on and she started liking her ever since Yuma startd helping her. And Yuma doesnt push her back because she doesnt want to hurt her firend (which i can understand) again good friend Yuma.

I feel like i understand both characters and thats why the anime is not bad for me in general. I feel bad for Takeda since he is a really good guy and passionately loves Yuma, just sad that he is getting backstabbed so badly.
Jul 12, 2017 12:40 PM
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I feel bad for both of their boyfriends lol.....These guys are in the process of getting cucked so hard
Jul 12, 2017 1:07 PM

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OPObsessed said:
AyumiVk said:


if it's like you're saying then she must be a masochist because she's still with him, if she didn't want to be molested or something like that then she could've just stop the relationship. but no, she still wants it.


She could be scared or confused. Or that might've been the first time it happened/she felt threatened. I haven't read the manga, so I'm basing this on the first two episodes. But you could be right. She could have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_masochism_disorder . Doesn't mean she brought it on herself if she's mentally ill.

I agree that her actions have been less than favourable. It has nothing to do with the situation with silver-hair though. It's not 'karma' or anything.

Just to put what @AyumiVk said another way - just speaking in general, here, I don't know any more about Hotaru beyond the anime either - but we have to be careful not to conflate reckless behavior with "victim blaming."

This is a subject I have talked to my daughters a lot about - one is in college and the other in high school. Just because, for example, you want to walk down that dark alleyway alone at night in skimpy clothing doesn't give people the right to assault you. But don't give me that shocked, surprised look that someone dared to take advantage of you, either. Part of being an adult is learning to minimize risks, including to your personal safety. Moral high grounds will not keep you from getting hurt in the real world. It's sorta like walking in front of a moving car when you have the right of way crossing a crosswalk. Sure, they are supposed to stop, and if they run you over then they're in the wrong, but that won't make anyone feel any better if you're dead.

Likewise, and more to the point with Hotaru here, I have seen men and women alike in abusive relationships, before. Sometimes the abuse comes out of the blue and shocks an innocent unknowing victim, but I can assure you that this is not always the case. Some people enjoy living on the edge, hanging out with dangerous people, doing dangerous things, and generally treating life like a thrill ride. When their actions come back to bite them in the ass, it's not karma, as you put it, that's just what happens in life sometimes when you make bad choices.

I don't claim to know the depth of Hotaru's backstory, but she sure seems like the type of girl who gets a rush from seducing others, the naughtier the better. It's her way of being in control. She knows what she's doing. I feel very little sympathy for her ilk, in fiction or in real life.
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Jul 12, 2017 1:18 PM

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Date rape, abuse and victim blaming? lmao people will actually defend the guy XD
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Okay, am I the only one who's SLIGHTLY starting to feel cringy at the drama at the moment? It just feels weird... now, I know that in the later episodes it becomes darker, but since I feel like it's beginning that way... the way it was executed was just poor, mostly because of the timing the show has, it doesn't really give enough time to grasp things up.

If it is the case I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes the next possible trainwreck for my watching list I guess.

Overall I will say the same as my prior impressions, meh. But I feel like it's slightly becoming worse from here for me which isn't a good sign at all.
Jul 12, 2017 1:46 PM

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Well the insight on their childhood kinda gives a bit more meaning behind Yuma's motives... Also getting a low key Kuzu no Honkai vybe here.... Very low key tho
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OPObsessed said:


She could be scared or confused. Or that might've been the first time it happened/she felt threatened. I haven't read the manga, so I'm basing this on the first two episodes. But you could be right. She could have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_masochism_disorder . Doesn't mean she brought it on herself if she's mentally ill.

I agree that her actions have been less than favourable. It has nothing to do with the situation with silver-hair though. It's not 'karma' or anything.

Just to put what @AyumiVk said another way - just speaking in general, here, I don't know any more about Hotaru beyond the anime either - but we have to be careful not to conflate reckless behavior with "victim blaming."

This is a subject I have talked to my daughters a lot about - one is in college and the other in high school. Just because, for example, you want to walk down that dark alleyway alone at night in skimpy clothing doesn't give people the right to assault you. But don't give me that shocked, surprised look that someone dared to take advantage of you, either. Part of being an adult is learning to minimize risks, including to your personal safety. Moral high grounds will not keep you from getting hurt in the real world. It's sorta like walking in front of a moving car when you have the right of way crossing a crosswalk. Sure, they are supposed to stop, and if they run you over then they're in the wrong, but that won't make anyone feel any better if you're dead.

Likewise, and more to the point with Hotaru here, I have seen men and women alike in abusive relationships, before. Sometimes the abuse comes out of the blue and shocks an innocent unknowing victim, but I can assure you that this is not always the case. Some people enjoy living on the edge, hanging out with dangerous people, doing dangerous things, and generally treating life like a thrill ride. When their actions come back to bite them in the ass, it's not karma, as you put it, that's just what happens in life sometimes when you make bad choices.

I don't claim to know the depth of Hotaru's backstory, but she sure seems like the type of girl who gets a rush from seducing others, the naughtier the better. It's her way of being in control. She knows what she's doing. I feel very little sympathy for her ilk, in fiction or in real life.


Woah. Haha. This really brought out the parent in you. I think you're giving @AyumiVk too much credit. Your post did more than put it in "another way". It went above and beyond.

The 'karma' that I mentioned was a dig at those who believe in something so ridiculous. That is, the spiritual concept. Unfortunately, it has made its way into the minds of young people.

I don't want get into a flame war or a hefty debate, so I'll be clear. I agree with everything you said. I can see how it would seem like I was defending Hotaru's actions just because she may be a victim. I was defending her, but I was not defending her behaviour. I was merely saying that silver-hair's actions are not Hotaru's responsibility/fault.
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Jul 12, 2017 2:07 PM

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I'm not really feeling this anime as much as many people....

But what was with white hair boyfriend he's so aggresive and rapey
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Oh my gosh! I think some people do not know the concept of abusive relationship around here ... ZZZ
Jul 12, 2017 2:11 PM

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A bit fast-paced. Hotaru keeps being annoying and invasive, Takeda is a good guy and Fujiwara seems like an abusive asshat. Yuma needs to get her shit sorted.
Jul 12, 2017 2:19 PM

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Fujiwara's true colors showing. Fucking jackass.


Jul 12, 2017 2:33 PM
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Is the manga really this fast paced or are they rushing the anime? I felt like the backstories and the amusement park scene went by a bit too fast.

nope, that's just how it is. the backstories were actually supposed to be in the previous episode but they switched it to this episode. other than that, it's actually a surprisingly good adaption of the manga.
Jul 12, 2017 2:43 PM

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These comment sections are going to be great. Helps me fulfill my sadistic Yuri NTR desires *bathes in the tears*

Anyway, this was an improvement from episode 1 for sure. But it's a shame these episodes are so short, it feels rushed, and honestly half the pace would be just perfect to make the drama at least as impactful as the manga. Still some weird fade to white cuts I don't understand as well, I wish they would just stop that lol.

It's alright, at the end of the day. My biggest complaints are too fast and the Yuri scenes aren't as hot as they were in the manga, and both of these things may unfortunately just be the way it is going forward.
Jul 12, 2017 2:49 PM
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All this show is doing is making me feel more sorry for the boyfriend I feel like in the end he'll be the most screwed over while then white/grey haired kid gets off scot free
Jul 12, 2017 5:00 PM
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Seems like Hotaru and Fujiwara are the type of people that stride to be the Alpha in a relationship. Fujiwara becomes a Douche because he can't get what he wants, while Hotaru toys with Yuma to hide her weakness.

I like it so far.
Jul 12, 2017 5:06 PM
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Whenever those girls get aproach my heart races like any Yuri has never done to me. So this is for me one of the best animes I've ever seen
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Whenever those girls get aproach my heart races like any Yuri has never done to me. So this is for me one of the best animes I've ever seen



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Jul 12, 2017 5:30 PM

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I'm pretty sure this wouldn't really catch my eye if it wasn't a Yuri, but oh well. Still hoping for Citrus here
Jul 12, 2017 7:28 PM

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My expectations haven't really gone up since the last episode... I guess I'll just continue it and see where it goes.
Jul 12, 2017 8:16 PM
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I'M SO PISSED, TAKEDA DOESN'T DESERVE THIS
Jul 12, 2017 9:12 PM

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This is cute and comfy and all, but when do they all fuck.
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Jul 12, 2017 11:02 PM

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Really wish these episodes were longer and they didnt start making out every time they were on the screen together. I need some damn bonding with my yuri. Yuma is bonding better with Takeda than Hotaru. So not cool
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