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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- In part I was hoping Yang would have an engaging battle for Iserlohn but that thought flew right out of the window when they revealed the fortress commander and the fleet commander don't get along at all and often run at odds. That kind of strife is just begging for a weakness to be exploited. I like Yang's overall planning. Large numbers have constantly been defeated time after time so a small infiltrating group is a good idea. His thoughts of having peace after the battle seems a bit too idealistic though. |
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| Fairly entertaining episode, though a lot more characters wer introduced -_-. Hopefully they die in the battle. How did Yang get an Empire's ship again? Don't they have passwords and stuff? Did they just completely skip it, they are going to flashback or I missed some, I don't know. Really liked the music right at the end. 4/5 |
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tainteddonut said: I like Yang's overall planning. Large numbers have constantly been defeated time after time so a small infiltrating group is a good idea. His thoughts of having peace after the battle seems a bit too idealistic though. I think you mean the rosen-ritter dude's idea of peace was idealistic, whereas Yang's was realistic. Peace comes and goes and is not permanent, right? LoveWifeLunch said: How did Yang get an Empire's ship again? Don't they have passwords and stuff? Did they just completely skip it, they are going to flashback or I missed some, I don't know. I suppose we can consider it belonged to the rosen-ritter guys when they were exiled from the empire, but then while watching the episode I was wondering why the Empire didnt question where the Bremen had been all this time, and if it did belong to the exiled members of the empire, why the commander didnt acknowledge this fact, or why the commander's database of Empire ships acknlowedge it. Argh, too many questions! Nice Yang flashback though. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Beatnik said: LoveWifeLunch said: How did Yang get an Empire's ship again? Don't they have passwords and stuff? Did they just completely skip it, they are going to flashback or I missed some, I don't know. I suppose we can consider it belonged to the rosen-ritter guys when they were exiled from the empire, but then while watching the episode I was wondering why the Empire didnt question where the Bremen had been all this time, and if it did belong to the exiled members of the empire, why the commander didnt acknowledge this fact, or why the commander's database of Empire ships acknlowedge it. Argh, too many questions! They said it was "war spoilers". Basically a ship from a defeated fleet. And that explains why the database acknowledged it. |
| I hate to say it but i'm confused. Kind of cool, because i haven't been like this in an anime in awhile. On a side note: it's kind of cool that Yang's aide is a woman. It's nice to have a female in a mostly male cast, besides Annerose of course. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| War spoils for the win indeed. Fortunate for Yang that he was able to have Cazellnu do him that small favor. |
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| Finally, there's a woman who appears in the story and who has a role in the war :D |
| I wonder if Yang will succeed in capturing Iserlohn. I also liked that Yang's aide is a woman. It's a nice addition in a story with mostly old men, lol. |
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HooHiraiBunny said: Finally, there's a woman who appears in the story and who has a role in the war :D yep this is nice)) haha the plan seems to work perfectly ^_^ Yang pwnes X) |
| I want to see more of the Galactic Empire |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
cantius said: This XDIt's a trap! |
| "Ah yes, the demon drink...'Nature's Alzheimer's' they call it" |
| Just like the previous episodes, lots of insight dialogues, this one is especially hilarious. ' Because we can only drink good tea while we're living, everyone let's fight so we don't die. ' |
| Taking over the Fortress will prove to be a difficult task. If Yang really pulls it off, my hats off to him |
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Grisle said: So I'm a little confused about the Rosen Ritters...they're defectors from the empire? If not, they have some ties to it? Well, my question would be why would they even be allowed to exist as a military force? It's a great idea, but if everyone's so afraid they'll just betray the alliance why are they even around? The group has been outcast from the empire so you could say their motivation for toppling it is just as strong as the Alliance. Presumably each individual's past would have been thoroughly researched before being allowed to join the group, but they're hated simply because they were born in the Empire. |
"I'm starting to think mal is run by Xinil generating electricity on a bicycle." - idklol |
Grisle said: The subs on my video files are a little wonky . what subs you got dood? if its Central-Anime, you should be all set. If its not, just drop it and switch to C-A |
| "...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
| I must say, Yang has a lot to fight for; great tea and chillin' on a pension. Like a boss. |
Grisle said: `So I'm a little confused about the Rosen Ritters...they're defectors from the empire? If not, they have some ties to it? Well, my question would be why would they even be allowed to exist as a military force? It's a great idea, but if everyone's so afraid they'll just betray the alliance why are they even around? their history is a lot better explained in the gaidens |
| There were parallels between episodes 3 and 4 and now parallels between episodes 5 and 6 -- not to say that Siegfried's assignment even comes close to the strategic importance or tactical difficulty of an assault on Iserlohn Fortress. I like Frederica and Schenkopp. Frederica seems like she'll be a permanent addition to the cast, but I hope Schenkopp doesn't go off and die anytime soon. |
| Really liked the dialogue when Yang was discussing his plan with Frederica, Shenkopp and the others. Especially the stuff between him and Shenkopp, both had nice lines there. Of course, Reinhard's line the Luthimal quoted was fantastic as well. As for my previous post, no idea why I was confused. It's an infiltration mission, pretty simple. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| The empire is in trouble ... Though if that one ship could capture the entire massive sphere full of people then they are pretty sad. |
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| LOL. "I hate coffee. I wish you'd given me tea." - Yang Wenli. I actually laughed there! Waiting to see how this strategy plays out. |
Mirorin said: LOL. "I hate coffee. I wish you'd given me tea." - Yang Wenli. I actually laughed there! Waiting to see how this strategy plays out. Even if it saves his life, he still hates coffee. All the feels. |
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| Impressive development! Looking forward to see what happens next! |
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| It seems that the rose knights have gotten into iserlohn. I wonder how they are going to defeat it? |
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| Nice plan, using infiltration to get Iserlohn Fortress. Wonder if the Rosen Ritter guys will get found out though, since even if the commanders don't get along/think irrationally, at least Oberstein seems competent. |
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| This episode is basically just a set up for the upcoming battle it would seem. We should definitely take note of the 2 new characters being introduced. One of them seems to be the first female officer from what I've noticed, helps that she also has some sort of past history with Yang. This area Yang has been set to capture looks to be very vital since it's smack in the middle of the Empire and the Alliance forces. I wonder if there will be any retaliation form possible Reinhard himself if Yang and co are able to capture it I also just want to point out how different Yang and Reinhard are. Reinhard cares about moving up in the ranks and being as powerful as he can while Yang could care less as we see with him sleeping in and the speech he gave. All he wants is to capture this area to force peace negations so he can retire and live at ease. |
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| Interesting plan and set up. A little bit more backstory too. |
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| Decent episode. Definitely picked up towards the end. Enjoyed Yang's speech lol |
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| Pretty good speech by Yang. I'm liking Yang a lot more than Reinhard he wants peace and Reinhard wants power. |
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| "Because we can only drink good tea while we're living, therefore everybody, let's fight so that we don't die." You go, Yang! :D :D :D |
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Royalirishman said: Pretty good speech by Yang. I'm liking Yang a lot more than Reinhard he wants peace and Reinhard wants power. yeah, I can't really sympahthize that much with Reinhard's goals in comparison. From what I gathered from the flashback episode , he wants power to get back his sister, which I guess is a decent goal. But other than that his motive seems shallow, from a previous ep he was just spouting some junk about already starting the acent to power, he wants to own the stars/galaxy? IDK about that. I even like his red headed aid friend dude a little better than reinhard, he seems to be extraordinarily smart and multiple instances of Reinhard heavily relying on his advice as well, he seems like the more peaceable and level headed one if anything. Yang just seems like a chill dude that simply wants to live in peace. Very wise admission from him in this episode, he's not unrealistically expecting a permanent peace to such a long winded conflict, he seems to really care about that kid living with him more than anything we've seen so far. |
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| Some space-Germans are part of the Alliance military? Maybe makes how the battle's going to go a little predictable? Had to laugh at Yang's flustered reaction when Greenhill came to speak to him; "Gee willikers, it's a lady!" We may have finally gotten some background to how this war works. For the past episode or two we've heard Imperial characters refer to "rebels" which indicates they deny the legitimacy of the Alliance as a state and implies they want total conquest. Yang's speculation that capturing the lynchpin fortress will allow the Alliance to make an acceptable peace raises the question of why the Empire hasn't done likewise with their territory so safe from invasion. While we've seen the Alliance has a corruption problem in its officialdom and political culture it seems that the usual political prejudice is borne out; the Galactic Empire is aggressive and warlike. |
| Awwwww! Yang has a fangirl :) |
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| the ol' Trojan Horse chestnut those Knights of the Rose seem to un-defect a lot |
| First step of th Yang tactic to take Inserlhon!!!! |
| So far I am not enjoying this show as much as I thought I would. Guess it was hyped up too much to me. |
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| The infiltration was easy, but a probable explanation is that with fleets so large, it is difficult to maintain and access a database of destroyed/MIA ships. |
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| Boring. I feel like they are teaching kinder garden stuff on how to win in paintball. The decoy was something I smelled from a mile away. I dunno how those generals managed to man this blockade. There is no battle or fight. Just tactics. I hate them, especially if they are fucking obvious. And also a backstory and a PA who distract us from the story. This is stagnating. If the next episode doesn't involve strategy, I am calling out.(Especially after watching Overture). I am starting to wonder how this became soo perfect. What is the episode when this turns around? |
 Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate. I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death. |
| Interesting how the Rosen Ritter is made up of Imperial exiles, which adds another layer to the complexity of the conflict. |
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| Seeing Yang be promoted so high so fast when he threatened the President is pretty weird. Nice to see where Fujisaki got his inspiration for the Greenhill girl, I like this one better. 3/5 |
| Episode that does not conquer me for the narrative rhythm, but for the dialogues, especially that of Yang and partly for the strategy put on the battlefield, and the motivations of a political nature. So far this anime is proving serious and mature, I like it! |
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