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Me and my friend debated a while over who was/is the most intelligent character in anime. Well we came to a stalemate, so who do you guys think?

And try to rule out the obvious ones that are always mentioned like, L, Light and Lelouch. (Theres always debates over who´s smarter, L or Light)

Some contenders on the top of my head:
Yang Wenli and Reinhard von Lohengramm from LotGH - Havent seen it yet so I dont really know who they are, but I´ve seen them mentioned alot of times.

Shiro and Sora from NGNL - I think Shiro is the smarter of them, but their IQ must be crazy high.

Johan Liebert from Monster - Really manipulative and aint afraid to play dirty

Shinichi Kudo from Detective Conan - Haven´t seen much of it, but in my opinion he doesnt beat L in detective skills.

Shikamaru from Naruto - Good strategist, cant see him beating Lelouch though.

Aizen from Bleach- Quite similar to Johan Liebert in some aspects

Houtarou Oreki from Hyouka - A case of more realistic everyday intelligence

Tokuchi Toua from One Outs - Even though its a sports anime, the guy is crazy smart

Kind of a underdog: Meruem from HxH - Dude was a couple days(?) old and still beat all but one on every game there was

Inferno Cop - My personal favourite, cant see anyone beating this guy. He probably has the IQ of all previous listed persons combined.
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Sora and Shiro 「 」 from NGNL. Tactical geniuses.
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Most of those characters don't deserve to be on that list really.

• Yang Wenli and Reinhard von Lohengramm from LotGH: I've only watched the 2 movies but they already seem witty and the show makes them appear to be far smarter than the people around them.
• Shiro and Sora from NGNL: They win because of the whole "Blank doesn't lose" asspull and not because they're smart. It's half ignoring the rules and half the plot just going the way they want.
• Johan Liebert from Monster: Intelligent but since he's the antagonist we see more of his results than his means. It would be a far bigger achievement if the show was following him.
• Shinichi Kudo from Detective Conan: He has been solving cases for almost 800 episodes now with a pretty big handicap unlike L so kudos to him.
• Shikamaru from Naruto: Same as Johan where the series shows more results than means and in this case it's not even as great as with Johan.
• Aizen from Bleach: More like worse Johan.
• Houtarou Oreki from Hyouka: As fun as the show was, the mystery wasn't anything overly complicated to label Oreki as some really intelligent person.
• Meruem from HxH: Doesn't say much to be honest. He was never able to beat Komugi and she is just an ordinary girl except for her Gungi skills.

Alakazam has an IQ of 5000. It's the smartest being that ever appeared on anime.
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Kruzy said:
Most of those characters don't deserve to be on that list really.

• Yang Wenli and Reinhard von Lohengramm from LotGH: I've only watched the 2 movies but they already seem witty and the show makes them appear to be far smarter than the people around them.
• Shiro and Sora from NGNL: They win because of the whole "Blank doesn't lose" asspull and not because they're smart. It's half ignoring the rules and half the plot just going the way they want.
• Johan Liebert from Monster: Intelligent but since he's the antagonist we see more of his results than his means. It would be a far bigger achievement if the show was following him.
• Shinichi Kudo from Detective Conan: He has been solving cases for almost 800 episodes now with a pretty big handicap unlike L so kudos to him.
• Shikamaru from Naruto: Same as Johan where the series shows more results than means and in this case it's not even as great as with Johan.
• Aizen from Bleach: More like worse Johan.
• Houtarou Oreki from Hyouka: As fun as the show was, the mystery wasn't anything overly complicated to label Oreki as some really intelligent person.
• Meruem from HxH: Doesn't say much to be honest. He was never able to beat Komugi and she is just an ordinary girl except for her Gungi skills.

Alakazam has an IQ of 5000. It's the smartest being that ever appeared on anime.


Alakazam is a god but a lvl 1 Alakazam would still lose to a lvl 99 Magikarp, and would he beat inferno cop though?

And for the others, they are just condenders, I have no doubt in my mind that Light for example, would wipe the floor with Oreki in "smartness level". But you also got to keep in mind, that I made the list to show different kinds of intelligent. For example Light, Shiro and Oreki are more "IQ smart", while Lelouch and Shikamaru are strategists. Its a bit harder to compare different categories
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Actually Paul von Oberstein's intelligence was superior than Yang Wenli and Lohengramm. His less ethic chivalry that makes him was less mentioned among LoGH fans.
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Kami Tenchi is omniscient so that makes him the most intelligent character
normal human though id say its Reinhard Von Lohengram, conquering the universe without any superpower is quite the feat
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Tokuchi Toua from One Outs - Even though its a sports anime, the guy is crazy smart


The one true answer. Nobody can beat this guy with his absolute demonic insight. He's 5 million moves ahead of you. You have lost the match before you know it. Okay maybe Oberstein would hold his ground against him.
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Kruzy said:
Most of those characters don't deserve to be on that list really.

• Yang Wenli and Reinhard von Lohengramm from LotGH: I've only watched the 2 movies but they already seem witty and the show makes them appear to be far smarter than the people around them.
• Shiro and Sora from NGNL: They win because of the whole "Blank doesn't lose" asspull and not because they're smart. It's half ignoring the rules and half the plot just going the way they want.
• Johan Liebert from Monster: Intelligent but since he's the antagonist we see more of his results than his means. It would be a far bigger achievement if the show was following him.
• Shinichi Kudo from Detective Conan: He has been solving cases for almost 800 episodes now with a pretty big handicap unlike L so kudos to him.
• Shikamaru from Naruto: Same as Johan where the series shows more results than means and in this case it's not even as great as with Johan.
• Aizen from Bleach: More like worse Johan.
• Houtarou Oreki from Hyouka: As fun as the show was, the mystery wasn't anything overly complicated to label Oreki as some really intelligent person.
• Meruem from HxH: Doesn't say much to be honest. He was never able to beat Komugi and she is just an ordinary girl except for her Gungi skills.

Alakazam has an IQ of 5000. It's the smartest being that ever appeared on anime.


I think Monster would lose its lore if it followed Johan. By showing only the results of his action the show manages to transform him in some kind of identity (consider the anti christ allusions), someone who can be anywhere at any given time. With this they were able to make his persona much more terrifying and effective. If the show followed him around all the time he would feel like your standard calculist psychopath and I don't think that was what they were aiming for.
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I think Monster would lose its lore if it followed Johan. By showing only the results of his action the show manages to transform him in some kind of identity (consider the anti christ allusions), someone who can be anywhere at any given time. With this they were able to make his persona much more terrifying and effective. If the show followed him around all the time he would feel like your standard calculist psychopath and I don't think that was what they were aiming for.

I know, I just said that it would make him deserves his spot more on this list if it followed him and not that it would be better for the show.
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Kobayashi from Ranpo Kitan.
Mitsuhiko and Kogoro from Meitantei Conan.
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Boku no Pico. He knew how to get laid.
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Yang Wenli, ofc.
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No Akashi Seijuurou? His best subject in school is "everything" and he's the student council president despite only being a first year.

I mean, y'know, he's also super rich which may play a part but he's shown to be super smart.
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I think Akira Takizawa from Eden of the East is quite smart. He might not be a genius, but his quick thinking and planning are incredible.
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Yazen said:
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Tokuchi Toua from One Outs - Even though its a sports anime, the guy is crazy smart


The one true answer. Nobody can beat this guy with his absolute demonic insight. He's 5 million moves ahead of you. You have lost the match before you know it. Okay maybe Oberstein would hold his ground against him.


Say hello to this guy, tokuchi is just copycat.
http://myanimelist.net/character/945/Yoichi_Hiruma
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Bitch please those mentioned are smart as fuck indeed but you are forgeting someone...




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for me Lelouch vi Britannia (Code Geass) , Ciel Phantomhive (Black Butler) , Beatrice and Battler Ushiromiya (Umineko no naku koro ni)
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I think Oberstein and Yang are on par with each other. Just speculating since we've never seen a direct battle between them but Oberstein was able to figure out Yang's strategy once.

But Yang and Oberstein are definitely smarter than Reinhard. Tbh Reinhard's wife is the smartest character in LoGH. Yang wouldn't have lost if it wasn't due to her intervention. So I think the intelligence scale will go like this:

Reinhard's wife > Yang/Oberstein > Reinhard > Reuenthal and Mittenmeyer (who I think are also on par with each other)
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I think Oberstein and Yang are on par with each other. Just speculating since we've never seen a direct battle between them but Oberstein was able to figure out Yang's strategy once.

But Yang and Oberstein are definitely smarter than Reinhard. Tbh Reinhard's wife is the smartest character in LoGH. Yang wouldn't have lost if it wasn't due to her intervention. So I think the intelligence scale will go like this:

Reinhard's wife > Yang/Oberstein > Reinhard > Reuenthal and Mittenmeyer (who I think are also on par with each other)


Yang never lost.
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Shikamaru from Naruto - Good strategist, cant see him beating Lelouch though.

Shikamaru wouldn't bother to much Lelouch because Lelouch would be sent to the matt in 5 seconds flat.
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Shiro from NGNL
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Shinji Matou, of course.
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Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch
Lelouch Lamperouge

he has a strategic mind to win every battle
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This.

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Shinji Matou, of course.

Lol, the same guy who couldn't predict

or

or
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Illyricus said:
Shinji Matou, of course.

Lol, the same guy who couldn't predict

or

or


That was a joke, to be honest.
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JewellTH said:

Lol, the same guy who couldn't predict

or

or


That was a joke, to be honest.


The third option could have happened to Shiro anyway.
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