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m-i-c-h-a-e-l said: wtf Lancer didnt kill Caster, Saber did. Why is Archibald getting the reward? Holy Fuck. That was a bastard move Kiritsugu. Honestly I thought Archibald wouldve let his fiancee die so he could continue the Grail War. But he agreed. Then the fucking bastard Kiritsugu gets around the contract by having the other girl kill them. No longer my favorite underdog hero. How could you not admire such a dark and mature move though? It's a death game where everything goes, so it illustrates just how serious the war is and how Kiritsugu is acting accordingly in such a situation. |
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| He's not even an underdog. You can't be an underdog if you're a professional mage killer with the backing of one of the founding families. |
| Okay so when Lancer goes out cursing everyone ... he also curses Saber. I think its because he thinks she betrayed him... but why would he think that? Why curse saber? How would he even come to the conclusion that saber betrayed him? =S .__. it's really bothering me so if anyone could shed some light on this it'd be greatly appreciated. |
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| My heart was pierced along with Lancer's. He did not deserve this. Kiritsugu you bastard. You're a brilliant bastard, but you're a bastard nonetheless. |
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| And I don't know if I missed something, but didn't this Sola woman break her fiance's finger? And he still wants her? |
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| Very powerful episode. That emotion between Kayneth and Sola-Ui... Lancer's howling is always guaranteed chills. Great VA work. I loved the short fight between Saber and Lancer. Quite nimble they are. The dialogue between Saber and Kiritsugu was amazing as well. On a side note, I prefer my old fansub's title 'Terminus of Honor' as opposed to the BD's 'End of Honor' |
Zhou said: Lancer did not deserve this. +1 But damn what a thrilling episode! Maiya killing both of them was raw. Got caught off guard! |
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Matt88 said: Agree. He was one of the best characters. I wished he could at least end his fight with Saber and then disappear with no regrets. Too bad he had such a unworthy master.Lancer didn't deserve that |
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| Poor Lancer... |
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| Wow Kiritsugu is an ass. Not only did he deny Lancer's only wish for a good fight, he also acted against his own servant. |
| Once again, this episode left me feeling empty. Lancer grew on me much more this time around, and seeing it coming from a mile away just made it harder. This is probably the one time I feel Kiritsugu crosses the line, but knowing his character, I can't bring myself to fault him for it. The one line that really got me though was when he was like "this is the first time you've seen how I do my work, Iri." Gotta say though, I loved that moment when Kirei described how he felt excitement over regret for saving Kariya. |
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Gator said: Wow Kiritsugu is an ass. Not only did he deny Lancer's only wish for a good fight, he also acted against his own servant. Why would he care? he is in this to win, not to respect the wishes of servants, especially Saber's pointless ideals. |
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| Lancer has it the worst, and having trashy masters didn't help at all. Characters deemed charming or seductive always have a bad demise because it arouses blindness and irritability in people. Assassin died, but of course not in vain. Caster's last moments were feelings of warmth as he got what he sought. rip |
| Man. Lancer always getting the short end of the stick. I say this after watching Ulimited Blade Works. I feel indiferent towards Kiritsugu. After watching UBW I figured he was going to be a great just character, but he is far from what I expected. A do whatever it takes to win for a good cause kind of guy. I like how he has a good use for the grail, but his methods are so terrible. |
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WisestOne said: you should give kiritsugu's wish a double take and keep a certain character from UBW in mind. Heaven's feel actually eludes more to kiritsugu. prior to F/Z the guy was a rather mysterious "john Connor" type character(think T1 john connor)Man. Lancer always getting the short end of the stick. I say this after watching Ulimited Blade Works. I feel indiferent towards Kiritsugu. After watching UBW I figured he was going to be a great just character, but he is far from what I expected. A do whatever it takes to win for a good cause kind of guy. I like how he has a good use for the grail, but his methods are so terrible. |
| Miura directed this episode. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| "Even if that means bearing all the world's evil, I don't care. If it will save the world, I'll do it gladly." So who else thought of Lelouch? |
| I commend this guy for still loving his wife that does not love him. Emiya FTW. Fucking badass to the max 10/10. A loving parent about it as well. |
| What a dirty strategy. |
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nichrom said: there really isnt much in regards to maiya, she's just a tool for him to reach his endgame and she is very much willing. a thing to remember at the begining of the series kiritsugu was hired for being an infamous mage killer. the Eizeburns themselves dont have combat magic of their own and they are extremely desperate to win the grail so they hired someone who they KNOW gets shit done. This is indeed the type of man kiritsugu is and he will make sure to be thorough.What an episode. What happened to Lancer is such a tragic.... I'm so conflicted right now. Kiritsugu's method is just plain horrible, but he has a point. Although it's funny that he talks about Saber being idealist, when in the truth, his wish to obtain the grail is also a very idealist thought, it's just the length he'd go for to achieve it is terrible. Also, it's interesting to think that although Lord Kayneth was generally being a bastard most of his airing time, he chose to save his love, a girl who doesn't even love him back while Kiritsugu (well he's also an emotionless bastard) who seems to be having a loving wife (and sweet family) were shown to be cheating on her at the beginning of the series... Now I do wonder if he's just with Maiya so he can make her do whatever he wants her to. |
| Wow , This episode was fantastic , also unpredictable , great animation as always and very very entertaining . Loved it . |
| Painful to see such conditions and fate for such a honorable character. Not only he was fighting alongside and for sake of such a Master only to endure humiliation in return, he also was not even allowed to at least have a honorable battle with Saber due to foolishness of his Master which forced him to commit a suicide, like a mockery. However, I liked how he at least poured his heart out as his final words. I also understand why Saber is mad at Kiritsugu, but I'm with Kiritsugu on this one. He has more valid points on the discussed subject. |
   “There are two kinds of arrogance. One where you are unequal to the task and one where your dreams are too big. The former is commonplace stupidity... but the latter is a rare species that is difficult to find.”  |
| Wth, now Saber really hates her master. XD Go Kiritsugu! XoXo XD |
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tsudecimo said: Gator said: Wow Kiritsugu is an ass. Not only did he deny Lancer's only wish for a good fight, he also acted against his own servant. Why would he care? he is in this to win, not to respect the wishes of servants, especially Saber's pointless ideals. Exactly he doesn't care, that's WHY he is an ass xD |
| To me the Servants are just tools used to win a goal....not adopted family to take selfies with. Each of the masters is just using them in a way that is an extension of their true nature. Kiritsugu used Saber as he needed and since he trained Maiya as his soldier, he used her also as Kayneth's final bullet. Not too many characters in this series are very admirable so when you choose one as your favorite......you love them with all the hidden evil inside them. |
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| Honestly, considering how awesome the first two episodes were, I should've known there'd be a sign that this series isn't perfect, and that sign presented its ugly ass face here. The way this show kills. With the exception of the evil duo in the previous two episodes, and three more badasses later on, a majority of deaths feel unsatisfying. The way Kayneth, Sola-Ui, and Lancer are beaten is just that. Unsatisfying. Especially when lancer goes off on everyone. To be honest, what saved it was Kiritsugu, and the dialogue he has afterward, but the deaths in this show from here on out (with three exceptions) are underwealming. At least Kiritsugu was awesome, and so was the ideological clash between him and Saber. |
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CodeBlazeFate said: what was underwhelming about it?Honestly, considering how awesome the first two episodes were, I should've known there'd be a sign that this series isn't perfect, and that sign presented its ugly ass face here. The way this show kills. With the exception of the evil duo in the previous two episodes, and three more badasses later on, a majority of deaths feel unsatisfying. The way Kayneth, Sola-Ui, and Lancer are beaten is just that. Unsatisfying. Especially when lancer goes off on everyone. To be honest, what saved it was Kiritsugu, and the dialogue he has afterward, but the deaths in this show from here on out (with three exceptions) are underwealming. At least Kiritsugu was awesome, and so was the ideological clash between him and Saber. |
Maloghurst said: what was underwhelming about it? Personally, while I liked Kiritsugu's plan, the way the characters met their end was disappointing, especially Lancer when he goes off on everyone because of what just happened, even though they had it coming. There was also some room for something that could've improved it; that being Sola-Ui waking up to see Zero Lancer being stabbed in the chest. That honestly would've increased the tension. Albeit, She and Kayneth never got to do much. All Kayneth did was get shot once before this and all Sola-Ui did was get her cans cut off and bicker with Kayneth. It felt too soon and underwhelming. |
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| [Re-watch | BD version] Brutal episode! The chivalry encounter of Saber vs Lancer, a show of skills in battle. I knew what was gonna happen, I knew how... but Kayneth's and Sola-Ui's death was shocking... really,. It was sad, and painful. Seeing Kayneth asking him to kill him, to end his suffering... Diarmuid's death and how he cursed them with his last living breath. A show that plays with your emotions this easy is a show I do admire. And if this was not enough we get the showdown between Arturia and Kiritsugu. Damn, Kiritsugu is right! He has seen the evil of the world, and the only way to stop it is being more evil than everyone else. He wants to stop the evil in the world, using whatever means necessary... The means may not be the most honorable or pretty, but it's a sacrifice, a sacrifice he is willing to make, and battle... no, WAR is full of tragedy. Oh Arthuria, you still don't see what you are doing wrong. It's not your goal, but how you assume your roll, your responsibility. Knights assume some war methods are noble, and others are evil, but both end up with death. I really admire Kiritsugu. What he does, he does it with a reason. People may say he's a demon, but he is not. You just have to understand him (I gladly did it in my first watch). Hell, I'd wish I were one of those persons than can write paragraphs to express themselves in a very literal and colorful way, expressing everything in a way everybody can understand what they think and feel, so I could do it here. Oh well. The bodies are starting to pile up... |
HumbertoZeroApr 30, 2016 5:44 PM
| An episode very cruel. Death appears and takes souls, but very unfairly. -- Un episodio muy cruel. La muerte aparece y se lleva almas, pero de manera muy injusta. |
| Man, kuritsugu is a savage. But I understand where he's coming from. I had to rewind his conversation with Saber because that clash of thoughts and ideals was so good to listen to . Sad for Lancer really though , his sole wish to be loyal and fight an honorable fight for his master has been crushed and worst of all his image of saber has been tarnished even though saber was clueless of kuritsugu's plan . |
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| Wow... Lancer did not deserve that death. That was a horrible way to go out, being betrayed by his Master... :( |
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| Maiya and Kiritsugu are simply badass, so cold!! |
| Overrated. Killing mages with guns and contracts. I mean, if it were this easy.... At least Sola is dead. She wanted to cheat on Kayneth and be in power. Lancer is dead, too. That's cool. He was too soft and stupid. |
| Wow that was fucked up by Kiritsugu Diarmuid all wanted to fight saber in the end. The fact that what happens here had happened again from his first life is very tragic as hell. I hope he does appear in the future as a new and enrage character, but I doubt that will happen since he seems to be only exclusive in the Zero series. This is getting good. I can't wait to see Archver vs Rider vs Saber! |
| Poor Lancer. Such unsuitable death for him. Kiritsugu is a damn bastard... |
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| Being Ransa is suffering indeed. #DicksOutForRansa |
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| Absolutely brilliant. I applaud the tragedy. Exceptional. |
arikryu said: Wow... Lancer did not deserve that death. That was a horrible way to go out, being betrayed by his Master... :( He was just a servant and servants are tools after all. Well, I just dislike Kiritsugu. I'm not talking about his methods, as they're adequate to this kind of situation, but as overall character. I'd like to see him beaten up. |
 Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite… A lie will remain a lie. |
| Oh man that was intense... Lancer was a honorable man, he didn't deserve to go like that :( |
| what an episode!!!!!! sad to see lancer die that way :( also i really hate kiritsugu so much, he disgust me. THAT ENDING OH GOD PLEASE BE SAFE IRISVIEL!!!!!!!! |
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| Ok, so will someone explain to me why did Kayneth try to save Sola Ui and thus fell for Kiritsugu's trap so easily? I mean she fucking betrayed him, tortured him out of his powers and cheated on him with Lancer and after all that he would still do it? I can't suspend the disbelief when the character act retarded because they have to make the plot advancement convenient. Kayneth is not some stupid boy, he's a grown-up man, smart enough to trick the church guy into giving him what he wanted, and now this? When Kayneth hysterically blamed Lancer for failing to protect Sola I though it was a clever psychological trick to make Lancer comply through guilt, but now it looks he was doing it unironically. I really need the explanation, I can't just deal with disappointing unrealistic turns in F/Z. |
ChitOKunSep 18, 2017 11:13 AM
| Poor Diarmuid he was one of the best characters better than Saber, he was a pure noble I can't believe it why you cursed Kiritsugu. |
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