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May 17, 2020 3:54 PM

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Oh boy, that suddenly got a little spicy at the end with that reveal!
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May 17, 2020 4:14 PM

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daedalron said:
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So we can assume that Lady Christine was/is one of the good nobles?

Well, at the very least,
Would she have done the same for another grey priestess? Probably not...


but she also intervened with Wilma situation.

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DeadlyRavenMay 26, 2020 3:37 PM
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phantomfandom said:
I'm thinking very hard on when Maine's mom and dad had their impregnation moment, It has to be the time both Maine and her sister aren't at home since their home is so small and any noise is very noticable, but Maine sleep in her home everynight, and everyday dad goes to work.


Hahaha, out of all the things to get you thinking.
May 17, 2020 5:22 PM

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Myne what was that about only doing the bare minimun to be able to read your books? You've been fixing the church a person at a time so I call your love for reading bs, BULLSHIT I SAY!

Joking aside I guess Otto's remark in the pub is more serious than I previously thought, we know nobles can get away with pretty much anything add to that Myne's growing wealth plus she being able to make powerful babies due to her high mana and you end up with a kidnap just waiting to happen.
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The Ending Art Cards are amazing.... <3
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May 18, 2020 2:41 AM

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Nieznajomy43 said:
AlexNG said:


Well, the translation is imprecise there, and the explanation itself was shortened. In reality,


So we can assume that Lady Christine was/is one of the good nobles?

AFAIK Lady Christine only values art.
If you have talent in art, she will consider you better than anyone without talent. She treats peoples without talent in art as pretty much having zero value, it's not worth her time or attention. Vilma is very talented at drawing, so Lady Christine was favouring her. Not as much as she was favouring Rosina, but still putting her way above her normal retainer. I am honestly not sure she would have bothered for a retainer without talent in art. Maybe.

So Christine is a bit of an oddball, at least if what was reported about her is the whole truth.

BTW the whole idea that there is evil and good noble is super wrong. Nobles aren't different from commoners on the "evilness" scale so most of them are neither evil nor especially good.

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Maine's new retainer Rosina is an amusing girl lol, I like her attitude. Also damn so Wilma was tricked and lost her virginity which made her afraid of men, poor girl.
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MegamiRem said:
Maine's new retainer Rosina is an amusing girl lol, I like her attitude. Also damn so Wilma was tricked and lost her virginity which made her afraid of men, poor girl.

She didn't lose her virginity. As mentioned in the post just above yours,


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daedalron said:
MegamiRem said:
Maine's new retainer Rosina is an amusing girl lol, I like her attitude. Also damn so Wilma was tricked and lost her virginity which made her afraid of men, poor girl.

She didn't lose her virginity. As mentioned in the post just above yours,
Ain't what u just said spoiler lol? Nothing of that sort was mentioned in this episode. It was only said that she was tricked and lost her flower. So they possibly left it out in the anime to reveal it later I suppose. Anyway not that I mind the spoiler but put a spoiler tag next time XD.

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MegamiRem said:
Maine's new retainer Rosina is an amusing girl lol, I like her attitude. Also damn so Wilma was tricked and lost her virginity which made her afraid of men, poor girl.

She didn't. Here are the subs for that scene by Muse Asia (a legal subtitler broadcaster to some countries in SEA).
https://imgur.com/a/zP7AFii
From comparing this with the light novel we know that these subs are more accuse at describing that event.
May 18, 2020 5:39 AM

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MegamiRem said:
daedalron said:

She didn't lose her virginity. As mentioned in the post just above yours,
Ain't what u just said spoiler lol? Nothing of that sort was mentioned in this episode. It was only said that she was tricked and lost her flower. So they possibly left it out in the anime to reveal it later I suppose. Anyway not that I mind the spoiler but put a spoiler tag next time XD.

No, in japanese, Rosina here said "thankfully, the incident ended without turning into anything serious".

Rosina sis aying to Myne that Wilma was NOT raped by the end of the incident.


CR has done several translation mistakes in this episode .
Another major one is Ferdinand saying to her that she "won't be able to avoid being involved with nobles in the future" , which was translated by CR in "you'll be part of the noble society in the future" which is obviously completely different .

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It's sad that official subs are so inaccurate.

You would expect that from fan speedsubs not official subs that are the result of actually supporting the industry.
May 18, 2020 6:14 AM

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@Zefyris @Hurwitz Ah I c thnx for the info. So it was the subs fault.
May 18, 2020 11:15 AM

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This one was another great episode. I love to hear these harspiel music pieces on the OST CD... So elegant and full of hope and passion.
Ferdinand singing?! Main singing?! This is amazing!!
Good to see Main telling Rosina to back down and not expect the same treatment she had with Christine-sama but you also got to do other chorus and not just teach her how to play. And well, she went with it and now she's hardworking too :D

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The Ending Art Cards are amazing.... <3
Yes, the ending cards are truly art, just pure eyecandy to my eyes. This one is really well-done with a really good color palette that I really enjoy. The softness & the vivid colors, I tell you, this is ART!



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THE MITOCHONDRIA IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL

*cough*

Sorry but that was my first thought reading this.
May 19, 2020 5:27 AM
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This episode was generally a good episode.
Unfortunately, the fifth episode caused this anime to go downhill.That episode deleted many parts of LightNovel.Because of this, many users gave 7or6 in place of 8or9or10.I hope users change their minds beacause This anime deserves more
May 23, 2020 4:54 PM

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oh that was nice! Myne becoming and older sister in the future because her mom is pregnant again with her 3rd child!
Aizen singing was nice as well!
Myne's the b0ss and she was able to handle Rosina's mild issues...lolz
5/5.


May 30, 2020 5:24 AM

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Great episode once again.

Myne will be an older sister! And she has every right to be happy about it.

I'm glad they were able to solve the problem of Rosina in this episode.

That revelation at the end. :O

Jun 2, 2020 9:39 PM

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Minor cringe at the impromptu music lesson. Kind of nonsensical dialogue, but whatever.
Jun 3, 2020 6:53 AM

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He just took her flower, no need to avoid men.

Ok seriously, thought the translation was pretty bad.

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Jun 3, 2020 7:44 PM
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This was so good! They still speeded over so much, but it was really good! SHE HAS A BOOK! Also, I liked Wilma's character development.
Jul 12, 2020 12:12 PM

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Didn't expect the head priest Ferdinand to be able to sing so well and play an instrument.

That church sure has some shady things; the class based system, hellhole of an orphanage and now even rape!?!

Aug 27, 2020 10:10 PM
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I'm sorry but why is Myne still acting so ignorant? "Culture?!" Give me a break. Then giving that music girl the benefit of the doubt despite clearly refusing to follow her orders and generally insulting everyone else. Myne thinks *that's* the appropriate time to reserve judgment and "hear both sides"? Give me a break!

I also hate when they start singing songs in a show that isn't a music-oriented show. No more, please.

These last two episodes have been awful because it is so illogical to believe that Myne truly has ZERO concept of how any of these things work or why they would be of value to her. I mean good lord, she didn't even understand why a female servant was afraid of being around men!

I was really enjoying this season but these last 2 awful episodes have certainly changed my opinion.
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Aug 28, 2020 9:40 AM

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HagePotPotato said:
I'm sorry but why is Myne still acting so ignorant? "Culture?!" Give me a break. Then giving that music girl the benefit of the doubt despite clearly refusing to follow her orders and generally insulting everyone else. Myne thinks *that's* the appropriate time to reserve judgment and "hear both sides"? Give me a break!

I also hate when they start singing songs in a show that isn't a music-oriented show. No more, please.

These last two episodes have been awful because it is so illogical to believe that Myne truly has ZERO concept of how any of these things work or why they would be of value to her. I mean good lord, she didn't even understand why a female servant was afraid of being around men!

I was really enjoying this season but these last 2 awful episodes have certainly changed my opinion.

Why are you being mad that Myne is a character that progress, evolves and learn from her previous failure? The reason she wants to hear both side and does not judge before it is because of the mess that happened with Lutz' parents before.
It happens regularly in this story. Myne makes a mistake in judgement, learn from it and applies the teaching to the next case that present itself.
And yes it turned out to be an appropriate time so she was right and you aren't.
And I'm sorry but singing and playing an instrument is required for a noble so you're going to get it. I don't see why just because it's not a show about singing there shouldn't be some.

And yeah, "assuming" the reason of why someone doesn't like something comes back to what I said above. She learned not to assume and ask instead.
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Zefyris said:
HagePotPotato said:
I'm sorry but why is Myne still acting so ignorant? "Culture?!" Give me a break. Then giving that music girl the benefit of the doubt despite clearly refusing to follow her orders and generally insulting everyone else. Myne thinks *that's* the appropriate time to reserve judgment and "hear both sides"? Give me a break!

I also hate when they start singing songs in a show that isn't a music-oriented show. No more, please.

These last two episodes have been awful because it is so illogical to believe that Myne truly has ZERO concept of how any of these things work or why they would be of value to her. I mean good lord, she didn't even understand why a female servant was afraid of being around men!

I was really enjoying this season but these last 2 awful episodes have certainly changed my opinion.

Why are you being mad that Myne is a character that progress, evolves and learn from her previous failure? The reason she wants to hear both side and does not judge before it is because of the mess that happened with Lutz' parents before.
It happens regularly in this story. Myne makes a mistake in judgement, learn from it and applies the teaching to the next case that present itself.
And yes it turned out to be an appropriate time so she was right and you aren't.
And I'm sorry but singing and playing an instrument is required for a noble so you're going to get it. I don't see why just because it's not a show about singing there shouldn't be some.

And yeah, "assuming" the reason of why someone doesn't like something comes back to what I said above. She learned not to assume and ask instead.


Yawn. You don't have to try so hard to defend how illogical and ridiculous it is.
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HagePotPotato said:
These last two episodes have been awful because it is so illogical to believe that Myne truly has ZERO concept of how any of these things work or why they would be of value to her. I mean good lord, she didn't even understand why a female servant was afraid of being around men!


She's also seven years old, not an actual noble, and came from another world. Go easy on her.
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CatSoul said:
HagePotPotato said:
These last two episodes have been awful because it is so illogical to believe that Myne truly has ZERO concept of how any of these things work or why they would be of value to her. I mean good lord, she didn't even understand why a female servant was afraid of being around men!


She's also seven years old, not an actual noble, and came from another world. Go easy on her.


She's not 7, though. And men have been taking advantage of/raping females for millennia in the world she comes from.
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Its great to be back to this series and damn its such a treat to have the goddess Iguchi Yuka singing in the first episode back.
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Eh, this talk about "manners of nobility".. I understand that it's important, but.. To learn about manners of the bunch of snobs.. So fun.. Not, of course.. Learning music isn't too bad, really.. But to learn to wear masks everywhere and lose your individuality, be as everyone, and be nothing at the same time then?.. I don't like the sound of that..
I don't know how I feel about Rosina's case.. From one side, she indeed could do some basic things.. Like take chair by herself, instrument, or whatever.. From the other, I don't think she necessary has to do something else, to work on papers.. Learning how to play - already is work.. So I kinda both agree with things and disagree with them.. It's like you'd say music teacher needs to work on something else, besides learning music.. Or he's lazy shit otherwise.. That's not how it works..
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Woah Head priest can even sing now lol. But again though these revelations after revelations about church and those of the noble class making me really despise them more and more.
Jun 6, 2022 6:44 AM

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He can play and sing, Ferdinand is a man of culture, well at this point all the nobles are indeed expected to be cultured aren't they?
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And she already put last week's episode into practice by figuring out how to deal with her new attendant. I wonder if Myne will even live long enough to see herself having kids. I hope she'll at least enjoy learning art and music.
Dec 7, 2023 8:24 AM

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Ferdinand's stonefaced confusion at the "you'd be swarmed with girls if you sang love songs" compliment cracked me up lmao. It's genuinely cool the dude has musical talent tho.

If the flower Wilma was forced to give up is (seemingly) not a metaphor for something bleak but at the same time no harm ever came to her, I wonder what really went down.
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00:21 I guess with Myne gone at the church doing stuff the parents had more time together. Still they all share a bedroom so poor Tuuli...

Imagine trying to sleep then your parents do that right next to you.

Ok that went from girl only wants to play music and being entitled to Wilma had some experience with guys we probably don't don't want to know about. Like that went from a 10 to 90.

Also damn the high priest is good at playing the instrument and singing.
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