Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen 2nd Season Episode 7 Discussion
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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Aye, Myne and her silly picture imaginations. She's still spreading the selfless nature by helping with the service. Interestingly, there's also music now that adds more harmony to the overall show's vibes. |
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| I can see her winning a lot of people over with her actions. |
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| Maine is so [cute](https://imgur.com/a/EkhKMNJ) omg Another really really good episode. I love these character building/development episodes like today. Rosina is a really good person, she’s just been used to working a certain way and has to evolve is all. Maine was very patient, fair and understanding and they were able to navigate that situation well. Nice to see that Maine’s parents have been busy while she’s been away ;) The revelation at the end there was very sad. Wasn’t expecting rape to come into the equation here 😔 poor Wilma. Crazy to think we’re already into week 7 here. I hope we get a third season of this, such a beautiful series. |
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| They are going to have a baby, it's great I hope we will see the baby, the instrument part was also great, but that end was shocking |
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| She handled things so well. I'm kinda surprised. Normally there is a little struggle, but she went through each problem quite well, and handled it in such a professional manner. Wonder when the twist is gonna come that's gonna put a bunch of pressure on her. |
| Never dreamed of hearing Hayami Show sing. Now my life is complete. |
AlexNG said: Marinate1016 said: The revelation at the end there was very sad. Wasn’t expecting rape to come into the equation here 😔 poor Wilma. Well, the translation is imprecise there, and the explanation itself was shortened. In reality, I must’ve misunderstood then. I don’t use subs. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
DeadlyRavenMay 26, 2020 3:54 PM
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| I've enjoyed this episode, but I'm still waiting for some action with nobility. |
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erinerinyes said: I don't know but I'm not impressed when the Head Priest sang. Definitely did not make me swoon. That's for sure. Looks like the next episode is going to be dark :( |
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| Wilma had a rough past, looks we're going to see more of her in the next episode, I hope Myne can do something to help her. |
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| Wonderful episode, I really like how this show is so soft and wholesome but in the same time can deal with dark and heavy themes. |
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| A lot of derp-eye in this episode lol. Sad ending point. Hopefully it wasn't as bad as it sounds... |
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| Main is learning how to play music, this new servant is nice finally What a horrible story in the end |
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| New retainers! Rosina was a bit troublesome, normally Myne would struggle a bit more with this, but with good enough advice she did the best she could and managed it so that everyone is happy! She's learning!! So even music is now a thing here as well, interesting. Hearing Ferdinand sing was quite something. Myne is a quick learner playing the harspiel! That talk about Wilma's past was unexpected! :( |
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| The church definitely is corrupt, but it's also interesting that the author managed to develop a religious organization that is pretty different from real life religions. It's authority structure seems halfway Catholic, but women have a bigger role in the church, plus there is no celibacy. It has a polytheistic theology, but the pantheon seems more narrow than say the Greek, Norse, or Hindu pantheons. Overall, definitely a good job with the world building. |
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daedalron said: I'm not sure the complete pantheon is that much narrower than the greek or norse one. It is a pantheon with a hierarchy, with only a few top deities, but each of those top deities seem to have a ton of vassal deities under them. That is possible. From what we've seen in the anime / what I've read in the light novels, there were some hints that there may be more gods than the main seven, which would make this similar to a Greek or Norse pantheon. |
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daedalron said: There's been more than hints. Multiple of them have been named, like the God of Alcohol, the Goddess of Wisdom, or the God of War. A few characters have even mentioned that they had trouble remembering all of the names from the Gods subordinate to the main seven. Which implies there are quite a few of them. Thanks for bringing that up. I'm glad there are some more observant watchers to correct my errors. |
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| For a moment there, Rosetta conducted herself like a blue robed noble. |
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| It was a nice episode. Not outstanding but pleasant. I really like the show but I have to admit that the first season has been better. Also, the show is rather vanilla and tame. The Crunchyroll translation for the last scene was terrible and I think also wrong or was "she gave her flowers to a Noble" a euphemism for "he raped her and she was forced to give up her virginity to him"....which would make more sense and also why the poor girl doesn't want to have anything to do with men. Someone here wrote that it was "only" attempted rape...like I said the translation was shit. If the show will actually deal with that in the next episode, I would be very impressed but also surprised. |
| They really did not want to spend any money on animation this episode. Sure, it is not a music anime but the amount of standstill frames was just too excessive. I really like the way the headpriest is protecting her by bending many of Myne's decisions in a more appropriate direction. Also we got to know one of the many reasons why unisex convents were not really a thing irl. |
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daedalron said: huntress1013 said: The Crunchyroll translation for the last scene was terrible and I think also wrong or was "she gave her flowers to a Noble" a euphemism for "he raped her and she was forced to give up her virginity to him"... Yeah, the "offering of flowers" is basically the codename by the Church for the forced prostitution of the grey robe priestesses. It's not an euphemism from the translation, it's an euphemism from the Church... And yeah, like someone said before, Wilma's mistress intervened in the nick of time and prevented her from being raped, but she still has a huge trauma about it. You can notice how when she talked to Main, she kept the door between her and Fran in this episode. This reminds me of Delia and how it was indirectly said that she had to offer herself to men. Sanctioned paedophilia basically. It is really too bad that the show mentioned it only vaguely but never tackled it. |
| YAY Turi's mom is pregnant, and Myne is obviously happy with it. But a picture book? While Myne is ecstatic about it, the Church however doesn't take lightly of these issues, and Head Priest Ferdinand suggests taking in more retainers...to Myne's chagrin as she learn the ways of being a noble. IMO, Myne really has NO choice but to follow the lead of Ferdinand. 1st task: taking up music, and this is a piece of cake for Myne (given her RL of having played the piano), and with it, the approval of Wilma (artist) and Rosine (musician) as new retainers. As much as Rosina is a musician, her behaviour is like Delia's manipulation by the High Priest (much like a blue-robed servant), which is the only thing that feels off that adds to the arrogance of others. Looks like Myne needs to place the same method to change her mindset (from her previous Master who gave her special treatment), the same way Gil and Delia did before. The talk on Wilma...the topic of "giving her flower" is almost very certain to attempted rape. How low can the Church go... daedalron said: Now only I've noticed the distancing of her and Fran, the trauma really kicks in hard. Oh well, we'll understand next week then.huntress1013 said: The Crunchyroll translation for the last scene was terrible and I think also wrong or was "she gave her flowers to a Noble" a euphemism for "he raped her and she was forced to give up her virginity to him"... Yeah, the "offering of flowers" is basically the codename by the Church for the forced prostitution of the grey robe priestesses. It's not an euphemism from the translation, it's an euphemism from the Church... And yeah, like someone said before, Wilma's mistress intervened in the nick of time and prevented her from being raped, but she still has a huge trauma about it. You can notice how when she talked to Main, she kept the door between her and Fran in this episode. |
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| It is fine, not as bad as the last episode, but at this point this show reduced to episodic kids show. |
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| "I'm pregnant" me: shaking my head, another mouth to feed? Main: I'm gonna make a picture book japan government is really pushing it. gotta make muh howaito beybis! |
kidlat020May 17, 2020 9:04 AM
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| Guess our known two singers from the macross series made their appearence here ;) The only impression I got from Rosina is that she's another Himedere :/ but she plays very gently with that instrument which I found very nice to hear <3 It wasn't nice to see her giving orders to Main's retainers, like a princess. Like, isn't she a grey robbed too? Rosina really needs to change that behaviour and she proved at the end she's going to change it, which is good. Nice episode! Hopping to see Main help Wilma with her insecurity for men. She seemed hurt :( |
PurpleGirl203May 17, 2020 9:35 AM
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| By flower, she meant her virginity or basically sex right? Didn't think rape would appear in this show. Honestly, it took me aback. I'll be honest, so far my impression has been that this was family friendly (but then again, the Merchant Guild head's granddaughter did want to be a concubine and Delia too...), so it surprised me. Not that it was bad or I have a problem with it, just that I was surprised. Glad they're not sugercoating this whole nobility thing though. Where there's power, there's bound to be abuse, and not just for more power or money. |
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| Question for LN readers, how close are we to the opening scene of the first season? |
| Wilma is an angel but unfortunately she was taken advantage of, I really like how this show tackles on dark topics but does it on a tasteful way, bit of sugarcoating about how bad things can get on old times but never goes shock value like it happens most of the time on most shows. |
Hurwitz said: ssjokg said: Question for LN readers, how close are we to the opening scene of the first season? daedalron said: ssjokg said: Question for LN readers, how close are we to the opening scene of the first season? I confirm Hurwitz opinion, Thank you both!! I didn't realize that this adaptation uses so few ew material. |
Phobez said: By flower, she meant her virginity or basically sex right? Didn't think rape would appear in this show. Honestly, it took me aback. I'll be honest, so far my impression has been that this was family friendly (but then again, the Merchant Guild head's granddaughter did want to be a concubine and Delia too...), so it surprised me. Not that it was bad or I have a problem with it, just that I was surprised. Glad they're not sugercoating this whole nobility thing though. Where there's power, there's bound to be abuse, and not just for more power or money. That's what I believed too, "flower" should be her virginity and considering the society the story takes place in, I wouldn't be surprised she was indeed forced to have sex with someone having such power/influence. Great episode on the other hand, Main's expanding her network and ability to live as a noble. Soon she's going to rule over the Church lol |
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AlexNG said: Marinate1016 said: The revelation at the end there was very sad. Wasn’t expecting rape to come into the equation here 😔 poor Wilma. Well, the translation is imprecise there, and the explanation itself was shortened. In reality, So we can assume that Lady Christine was/is one of the good nobles? Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
DeadlyRavenMay 26, 2020 3:38 PM
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