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Nov 21, 2017 6:46 PM

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Japan only outlawed posession as of 2014 after being harassed by the West. Before then they focused on production I think. So it really shouldn't be surprising some people would still have some. It said it was posession not production to be clear. They were teenagers just to clarify for those who may not have read it. All it says is "nude". That doesn't say much but I at least assume that means no sex and possibly no masturbation either. Images and video which are merely nudity and not specifically sexual focus is not illegal in many places including the US so if that is all it actually was and not having detail left out that means Japan went from being more lenient to more strict than some Western countries.
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Nov 21, 2017 6:50 PM

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How in the world did they know he had those ? who snitched ?
Nov 21, 2017 7:01 PM

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Disgusting, and also not all that smart.

He shoulda' just gone with 2D hentai lolis to get his pedo on, hypocritically that stuff is off the shelf legal over there.
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Nov 21, 2017 7:06 PM
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Not really.
Despite it being pretty fucked up, he's still talented and decorated. Most fans won't care, nor should they, unless there are related undertones in his series.


well, yeah, this really doesn't effect his works, they're already legendaries
but it just feel like we lost a talented author

Nov 21, 2017 7:50 PM

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Lol what an idiot. Should've just fapped to lolis instead.
Nov 21, 2017 8:03 PM

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I'd like to know what the porn actually was. Sex and seductive, nude poses or those pervy gravure DVDs?

Nov 21, 2017 8:10 PM

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Which thread are we going with?

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Lol what an idiot. Should've just fapped to lolis instead.

But how is the guy who draws the lolis supposed to masturbate to the lolis if the guy who draws the lolis doesn't have any accurate references?

Copping other people's art is plagiarism which is arguably worse than being a pedophile. I mean, sure, he could just masturbate to other people's loli drawings, but what fun would that be? The loli pussy that you draw may look better than the loli pussy that other people draw.
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Nov 21, 2017 8:19 PM
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This reminds me of the time my teacher recommended me Rurouni Kenshin.
A few years back, Scott Freeman also got arrested for the same crime.
Nov 21, 2017 8:20 PM

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I don't know what to think about pedophiles , I mean , it's incorrect and should be punishable I know but I don't think it is something you can choose .

Nov 21, 2017 8:23 PM

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well that sucks..

Is it just me, or does 1year in prison +8k usd seem like kind of a mild punishment?


Those are nude footage, and he is just storing. So that's not as terrible as a crime, 1 year in prison is deterring enough.
Nov 21, 2017 8:41 PM

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Finally they're cracking down on all the predators and pedophiles and scum of society. MAL users, you're next. Better hope they dont ban the loli fan service and other underage shit yall jerk to, pedophiles
Nov 21, 2017 8:52 PM

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Lol for some reason I thought for the last 15 years that the mangaka of Kenshin was a women. That's more shocking to me right now than the charges.

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Well,you have to consider, how the DVDs were created. Real life children were abused during this process, weather they got paid as compensation or were just forced to do it, it affects their personality. And by owning such DVDs you "support" this kind of pron industry faction. You directly give them a reason to continue with their missdeeds.


Only if they profit from you as logopolis said. If there was no money involved and he just, idk, stole or pirated that material he's not supporting it in any way.


Stole, pirated, bought, it DOES NOT MATTER. It still creates a demand for it. And a LOT of kids, maybe the majority, have probably been sex trafficked. Can you imagine going through that at 12, 13? I can't believe I'm reading his sentence is too harsh. smh
Nov 21, 2017 8:59 PM

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Shit, that made me feel really uncomfortable.
Though, atleast I have not read his works
But if any of my favourite authors are like that I'll feel very disgusted.
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Nov 21, 2017 9:48 PM
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Welp. I know what manga I'm not going to read! A shame for the fans.
Nov 21, 2017 11:59 PM

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huh this part

>While Misao is 16, Watsuki wanted her to appear like a 13-year-old. He argued with his editors about the inclusion of Misao’s braid. Ultimately, it was kept since it added emphasis to Misao’s movements. “Misao’s cloak was added just for fun”, he stated. The creator of Rurouni Kenshin intended for her to have a painful encounter with Aoshi in the future, but that Misao would keep going strong.
The author admitted that he enjoyed drawing Misao and she was one of his favourite characters.

Scary how new info can change the context for worse.
Lol yeah , I never knew she was originally supposed to be younger but it makes sense given the fact that he's into young girls.

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Let hope it end its hiatus quickly and not get axed . RK fans really want the Jinchu arc be animated very badly.
True but even before this there was never any announcement that the Jinchu arc would be animated. I don't think there were any plans of creating an anime tv series adaption of the Jinchu arc .
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Stole, pirated, bought, it DOES NOT MATTER. It still creates a demand for it.


It's fascinating how the establishment can believe that pirating music, films, anime etc. is bad because it reduces demand, and pirating CP is bad because it increases demand.

If anyone in this thread is actually interested in protecting children, rather than enjoying someone's forthcoming pain because it satisfies their own hatred, disgust and bloodlust, then you should be urging that only people who pay for it get prosecuted, and anyone who doesn't pay for it is safe. That way anyone who wants it has an enormous motivation not to financially support it, rather than being damned if they do, damned if they don't. That should choke off the funding for DVDs like that.

If you draw the line at which people get prosecuted at the same place as the line where they start harming children and in proportion with how much they harm children, then maybe more paedophiles will get the message that they should cope with their condition without harming children, and fewer children will be harmed. I know it's less satisfying, but sometimes doing the right thing needs thought rather than rage.
Nov 22, 2017 3:18 AM

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Thats really sucks, Trust and Betrayal is one of my favorite OVA's period. Tbh it's more to do with the director rather than the original author's vision. Still this is pretty messed up news. Let's hope this doesn't become like a Weinstein thing and we suddenly find out half the mangaka are pedos lol.

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Nov 22, 2017 4:40 AM

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Guess the pedo cult extends to Japan.
Nov 22, 2017 5:32 AM

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Disgusting. Why would anyone own child porn if they have access to superior 2D lolis?

Btw. lol @ triggered anti-loli crusaders in this topic. Reminds me of CE forum.
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I admit, he did something wrong. We can judge him unlimited if we want to....

....but that doesn't mean you will judge on RK too

PS: I don't care about his "hobbies"....I'll still thank him for RK
Nov 22, 2017 9:49 AM

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Its funny how yall are so surprised by this when Japan has been sexualizing young girls for a LONG time

I assure you this guy is not the only one who has DVDS
Nov 22, 2017 11:04 AM
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Well, damn, is everyone a total degenerate in 2017?

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Images and video which are merely nudity and not specifically sexual focus is not illegal in many places including the US so if that is all it actually was and not having detail left out that means Japan went from being more lenient to more strict than some Western countries.
Yeah, Japan is big on No Nudity--is that the case? I didn't read the article
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Well then. I'm kind of surprised here.





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Nov 22, 2017 12:17 PM
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his career is done right?
Nov 22, 2017 12:21 PM

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The frightening thing is that I feel like his punishment will probably be a slap on the wrist.

Japan is beyond fucked up in this area.

I have zero problems with someone liking Loli porn (2D shit)...

But under no circumstances, should real CP be tolerated...there’s no excuse for this, at all.
Nov 22, 2017 12:26 PM

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His reputation is now ruined, I can only wonder how newcomers to his work would feel upon learning this but sometimes the idea of "separating the artist from his work" is needed unless his attraction to children influenced some things within the series he created but I doubt that, you can only hope he learns his lesson from the punishment he is getting but oh well, he got what was coming to him.

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Nov 22, 2017 1:01 PM

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Why did he have DVDs? Why can't he use the internet?

Let's see if his favorite count plummets.

Nov 22, 2017 1:16 PM

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Wow! The current year has been wild so far!
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Nov 22, 2017 1:56 PM

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Never knew...

And it happens to be the author behind the manga for one of my favorite animes...

We've had a couple of stories relating to authors this year, haven't we? Wow, lol.

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Not surprised that some mangaka's are into child porn. Still horrible though.


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logopolis said:
Shannon_Shoffner said:
Stole, pirated, bought, it DOES NOT MATTER. It still creates a demand for it.


It's fascinating how the establishment can believe that pirating music, films, anime etc. is bad because it reduces demand, and pirating CP is bad because it increases demand.

If anyone in this thread is actually interested in protecting children, rather than enjoying someone's forthcoming pain because it satisfies their own hatred, disgust and bloodlust, then you should be urging that only people who pay for it get prosecuted, and anyone who doesn't pay for it is safe. That way anyone who wants it has an enormous motivation not to financially support it, rather than being damned if they do, damned if they don't. That should choke off the funding for DVDs like that.

If you draw the line at which people get prosecuted at the same place as the line where they start harming children and in proportion with how much they harm children, then maybe more paedophiles will get the message that they should cope with their condition without harming children, and fewer children will be harmed. I know it's less satisfying, but sometimes doing the right thing needs thought rather than rage.

It's not just about creating demand here (while idk why this is a discussion here in the first place, as Watsuki bought those DVDs and didn't pirate). Same way it's against the law to uploaded sex tape with out the agreement of the other person, and we're talking about kids here they can't give consent in the first place so uploading CP immediately breaks that law. And no one can really have that risk if some pedophile decides one day to upload their whole porn collection, one of the reason why it's not allowed to even hold such thing.

Let's also not be so naive with this, there's shit ton of amateur CP out there and it is abuse. Even if you didn't posses CP and "only" viewed it on some website (with out reporting it) you contributed to abuse and exploitation of children. I know there're less harmless options for pedophiles, so they don't really have any excuses for searching CP. Better option would be giving them their much needed therapy, as it's not impossible to actually live as a non-offending pedophile and have pretty normal life, maybe even start a relationship with some one of same-age.
Nov 22, 2017 3:15 PM

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i just started reading the manga a few days back, ironically enough. guess i won't be finishing it anytime soon lmao.
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Moved from the Anime Discussion Board and merged with RedRoseFring's thread.
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Rurouni Kenshin is still a masterpiece!

i don t care about his life! fuck the system
Nov 22, 2017 4:47 PM

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traed said:
Images and video which are merely nudity and not specifically sexual focus is not illegal in many places including the US so if that is all it actually was and not having detail left out that means Japan went from being more lenient to more strict than some Western countries.
Yeah, Japan is big on No Nudity--is that the case? I didn't read the article

I read word for word and saw nothing that even implied anything pornographic so either the article is poorly written or it's safe to assume it's a vid of youn teen girls doing cute things while naked or is a nude photo shoot footage.

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The frightening thing is that I feel like his punishment will probably be a slap on the wrist.

Japan is beyond fucked up in this area.

I have zero problems with someone liking Loli porn (2D shit)...

But under no circumstances, should real CP be tolerated...there’s no excuse for this, at all.

Except they weren't children and it wasn't porn if the article isn't missing information. Children is a word for prepubecent children but these were young teens. Porn involves sex acts or graphic focus on certain parts of the body in a sexual manner but all the article said was "nude". If that is the case if the article isn't just poorly written then it's fully legal where you live while illegal in Japan which would just make you look dumb and hypocritical for harping on Japan.
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15 16 years old girls nowadays are just like 20 years old girls in the 80s!
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Except they weren't children and it wasn't porn if the article isn't missing information. Children is a word for prepubecent children but these were young teens. Porn involves sex acts or graphic focus on certain parts of the body in a sexual manner but all the article said was "nude". If that is the case if the article isn't just poorly written then it's fully legal where you live while illegal in Japan which would just make you look dumb and hypocritical for harping on Japan.

Ok bro...I’m not going to get into what a “child” is and isn’t.

However, the article clearly says he was CHARGED for possessing CP...CP does NOT have to have sex or be sexual or graphic.

You gotta be kidding if you think that is one of the requirements.

Seriously...the word “porn” has never meant that a sex act must be done...or else Playboy would never have been called Porn!

A nude picture of a “child” is more than enough to be CP if in the hands of someone who is using it to get off...regardless of why the “child” is nude.

Oh and I was right....Japan has incredibly lenient laws on this shit.

Being found guilty of CP...you get up to ONE year in prison and a 1 million Yen fine which is fucking nothing.

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traed said:
Except they weren't children and it wasn't porn if the article isn't missing information. Children is a word for prepubecent children but these were young teens. Porn involves sex acts or graphic focus on certain parts of the body in a sexual manner but all the article said was "nude". If that is the case if the article isn't just poorly written then it's fully legal where you live while illegal in Japan which would just make you look dumb and hypocritical for harping on Japan.

Ok bro...I’m not going to get into what a “child” is and isn’t.

However, the article clearly says he was CHARGED for possessing CP...CP does NOT have to have sex or be sexual or graphic.

You gotta be kidding if you think that is one of the requirements.

Seriously...the word “porn” has never meant that a sex act must be done...or else Playboy would never have been called Porn!

A nude picture of a “child” is more than enough to be CP if in the hands of someone who is usinglaw wi to get off...regardless of why the “child” is nude.

Oh and I was right....Japan has incredibly lenient laws on this shit.

Being found guilty of CP...you get up to ONE year in prison and a 1 million Yen fine which is fucking nothing.


Yes, and what that means differs country by country. It's not a universal law with a universal definition. That's all I'm pointing out that you don't really seem to realize that. I'm not sure how Japan's laws are written for this but the article only said nude so that's not much to go by. I never said only sex has to be involved for US law I said it has to be sexualized which has a specific legal definition and does not encompass all nudity. This is just a fact. It falls under freedom of expression though it can be a bit hazy at times what they consider legal or not.

So if someone gets off to a picture of a potato does that make pictures of potatos porn? That's not how laws are written. I was talking about actual legal definitions to point out if it's just nudity and not sexualised it would have been legal where you live. I'm saying you shouldn't assume too much.

That's for posession right? Look up what they charge for production and distribution. It's probably more. Though he's only guilty of posession so he wouldn't be charged for that.
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his career is done right?


nope. Maybe if this was in America then yea, but in Japan ? Please, he will be back to a normal life after a year in prison.
Nov 22, 2017 10:20 PM

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God damnit, Watsuki.
hugtto precure is an international treasure thank you for coming to my ted talk
Nov 22, 2017 11:07 PM

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Lol @ people saying this ruined RK for them or they wont read/watch it now. It doesn't matter if the author is the worst person in the world it doesn't mean you can't enjoy their works. It sucks that he's ill but it doesn't take anything away from his writing. That's like saying you can't buy cheap clothes at K-mart anymore just because they use slave labour to make them.

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Disgusting. Why would anyone own child porn if they have access to superior 2D lolis
I'm with you man, it doesn't make any sense.
Nov 23, 2017 3:29 AM

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Rurouni Kenshin is still a masterpiece!

I don t care about his life! fuck the system


neither do I, it's disgusting still but I have more problem with someone who decides to create something like piko and think it's cool than someone who keeps his fetish to himself

quoting from Foreverworld : it's a time where you should learn to separate artist from the artwork
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If what I read was right Japan's laws regarding pornography is that actors need to be at least 18 years old and anything younger is child pornography, like in western countries, but as their age of consent can be 20 years old in some regions I'm not sure if that affects anything. Considering junior idols are legal in Japan (although controversial) I'm sure those nude pictures were sexual in nature.

I wouldn't be so sure. I can't find how Japan legally defines child pornography and since this article isn't very clear I don't think too much should be assumed which is why I used very cautious language when talking about how it might not be what some people assume it is but they may also be right.
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urpoutta said:

If what I read was right Japan's laws regarding pornography is that actors need to be at least 18 years old and anything younger is child pornography, like in western countries, but as their age of consent can be 20 years old in some regions I'm not sure if that affects anything. Considering junior idols are legal in Japan (although controversial) I'm sure those nude pictures were sexual in nature.

I wouldn't be so sure. I can't find how Japan legally defines child pornography and since this article isn't very clear I don't think too much should be assumed which is why I used very cautious language when talking about how it might not be what some people assume it is but they may also be right.

I'm basing it with this that mentions a 18 year old is an adult in Japan's law and younger is defined as "child".
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Damn, disappointed, was going to read Kenshin fully soon,probably still will but it'll be weird.



Got this from /a/

https://www.bengo4.com/c_1009/c_1406/b_598116/

You know how the police found out in October? Well in late October some guy asked on a lawyer Q and A site whether they would be arrested for simple possession of 100 child porn DVDs.

And the guy's username was "Alabasta", not sure what the implications of that are.
Nov 23, 2017 6:32 AM

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Well this might explain the age gap between Kenshin and Kaoru.

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RIPstrawberry said:
Rurouni Kenshin is still a masterpiece!

I don t care about his life! fuck the system


neither do I, it's disgusting still but I have more problem with someone who decides to create something like piko and think it's cool than someone who keeps his fetish to himself

quoting from Foreverworld : it's a time where you should learn to separate artist from the artwork
Indeed, that's always been my philosophy. Shame on the author but it doesn't stop Trust & Betrayal from being in my favorites.

Kind of like how Johnny Depp is an amazing actor but a sick, abusive sleazebag.
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dunno if real, but wold funny if dis realy was Nobuhiro posting before arrest
https://www.bengo4.com/c_1009/c_1406/b_598116/

site is online consult of lawyers in japan
most of answers telling OP, not to worry of arrest

lawyer: "If only possession in about 100 dvd will not be arrested."

LOL






Nov 23, 2017 8:53 AM

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Ok that's terrible and disgusting. Unexpected at the same time.


I will not believe that everything is controlled by fate.

ll X ll
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Idek how to feel about this. This is holy shit whhhhy, Watsuki-sensei? Jesus.

"Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out."
Captain Levi, 2014
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