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Oct 21, 2017 1:54 AM
#51
This was better again, but I'm still completely confused about what's actually going on, and in all honesty this episode's fight scene (and the fact that Ren is apparently connected to Karl Kraft for some reason) has only added to that feeling. |
Oct 21, 2017 4:56 AM
#52
Ahhhh... not again... The Quality... IT CAN'T BE SEEN! Nor felt nor imagined etc. Another Chaos; Child experience (WHICH DID NOT HAPPEN IN ANY CONNECTION TO STEINS;GATE). I mean... this kind of weak, sick stuff must be popular in Japan? What is this, third rate humanity entertainment? I ate my breakfast in 16 minutes. Exactly this much time my essence was being tormented by this -(quality). No more. After reading the other "inputs" I was bewildered that at least half of them was not outright bashing on this... piece of art. This brings me to the conclussion that I am either mistaken, or that at least half of the input providers are third rate Japs deviants. Now, I myself adamantly believe in the second, but just to make sure I will watch THIRD episode (or at least 16 minutes of it) to persuade myself that I am not mistaken, again. |
Daniel_NaumovOct 21, 2017 5:30 AM
Re:formed |
Oct 21, 2017 5:17 AM
#53
Boring Count = 12289/32560 |
Oct 21, 2017 10:36 AM
#54
Ahhh rusalka is love. Why don't you have a route while booring kei has one... |
Oct 21, 2017 11:18 AM
#55
TheDoggoneGirl said: It's been two episodes and I'm still confused about what the hell's going on, and I couldn't bear to waste my time watching this show anymore. Dropped 4/10 Same here! I will give it one more shot next week, and then I might drop... |
Oct 21, 2017 3:44 PM
#56
Oct 21, 2017 3:45 PM
#57
That anime sucks sonra bad...0th ep was very good but 1 and 2 rushed too bad. Dropped. |
Oct 21, 2017 5:18 PM
#58
Oct 21, 2017 9:36 PM
#59
I haven't played the VN and skipped episode 0 by recommendation of Tokyosaurus to "avoid getting lost". So far I have just ONE question. Why would you produce a series so confusing that you still have to play the VN? That's not how you get more players, it's just counterproductive (unless you just want to please only your niche audience, then it's fine I guess). Steins;Gate did cut things from the original but it was still totally understandable on its own. So far this has been more of a chaos;child kind of experience with way more generic elements. I almost fell asleep during this episode, I wish I was exaggerating; so far there's nothing that makes me even try the VN out of curiosity at least. One more episode like this and I'll be dropping it, and I rarely drop series. |
kchorrex2012Oct 21, 2017 9:39 PM
Oct 22, 2017 12:01 AM
#60
Still at the stage of piling cliches... panty, random fight test (special "chosen one" talk incoming), two mysterious transfer students, & it's shounen fight gotta exchange full names & german rank... why not just share Line? At some point the real story will begin. Priest of the grail? My Kotomine can't be this kinky. At least Rea & Mercurius are interesting so far. And Riza is really Rize. |
Oct 22, 2017 3:09 AM
#61
I still don't get what it's about but at least it makes a little sense now. Seems like Ren is being used by Karl Kraft in a war which he shouldn't be a part of. A war involving Immortal Nazis who have magical powers. |
Oct 22, 2017 4:38 AM
#62
bittersweetlove said: TheDoggoneGirl said: It's been two episodes and I'm still confused about what the hell's going on, and I couldn't bear to waste my time watching this show anymore. Dropped 4/10 Same here! I will give it one more shot next week, and then I might drop... Sucks because the episode 0 was pretty interesting and it made me curious more, but here comes the main series and it's shit. Idk it just pisses me off. |
Oct 22, 2017 8:52 AM
#63
Waited a while to see if someone mentioned the identity of the killer. It's pretty funny to see people complaining about a series they're clearly not even paying attention to, they showed twice who the killer was very clearly even doing a close-up shot but nobody noticed. Then there's the people that don't understand what metafiction is, or the guy saying why are actors in an opera introducing themselves with full titles and whatever, I wonder why nobody actually watches the anime, in episode 0 we have one of the villains acting like he's in Broadway and the other being surrounded by beams of light while he has some kind of catharsis going on. I guess the meme about having to read Faust and Also Sprach Zarathustra to understand DI wasn't a meme for the average MAL user. |
Oct 22, 2017 10:42 AM
#64
kchorrex2012 said: I haven't played the VN and skipped episode 0 by recommendation of Tokyosaurus to "avoid getting lost". So far I have just ONE question. Why would you produce a series so confusing that you still have to play the VN? That's not how you get more players, it's just counterproductive (unless you just want to please only your niche audience, then it's fine I guess). Steins;Gate did cut things from the original but it was still totally understandable on its own. So far this has been more of a chaos;child kind of experience with way more generic elements. I almost fell asleep during this episode, I wish I was exaggerating; so far there's nothing that makes me even try the VN out of curiosity at least. One more episode like this and I'll be dropping it, and I rarely drop series. but you should watch ep 0, its prequel, but from what you are writing, you wouldn't like it seems. Ep 0 is basically first half of what writes in synopsis of this anime, + showing antagonist(or one of antagonists - Reinhard) motivations for stuff happening now and how he comes to that. |
Oct 22, 2017 10:43 AM
#65
The first episode was just horrible, but after this one I am a little curious. |
Oct 22, 2017 1:46 PM
#66
TheDoggoneGirl said: Sucks because the episode 0 was pretty interesting and it made me curious more, but here comes the main series and it's shit. Idk it just pisses me off. Had that vibe about ep0 to. It made some promises, and I wanna check in on thoose. Ep1+2 were slow, boring or confusing. I mean...did that fight between Ren and the forces of evil really really happend or just part of his altered memories/imagination/dream/Vietnam flashback... I dunno. At some point ep2 tells me:"Yeah, shit is totally true. See? People die!" and then "No, nothing happend, all is in your head, don´t do drugs kidz!" Ahh yeah; 'people are dead when they die' - Was stated just b4 the fight...So something something must´ve happend, then unicorn-magic. Being 'confusing' is not necessaryly a bad thing, but I do expect something in return. And so far the show did not deliever. My patience growing thin, so I will follow the "3-Episode-Rule" and give it one last shot at ep3 - maybe some fireworks idk...At least the outro song did grow on me, and it´s a good thing you can tab out while it´s playing ;) The pantyshot scene was...bad, like really bad. No comedy; at least it did not connect with me. If the purpose was just blatant fanservice...well, it did not look visual appealing to me. I´ve seen fanart in elementary school that was better. Yeah, I´ve read that the VN had this scene, but I cannot comprehend why it was implemented in that way. They could have used the screentime for something usefull... I get it that this is a crowdfunded realisation of an VN, and it´s tailored towards the fans of the original material. And in that regard, I can lower my expectation that everything will get explained to someone who is not familar with the source material. Last thing for any1 who knows the original material or speaks japanese or does have access to various fansubs. Weltall subs weren´t avaible when I watched ep2. Did the evil broodmother(what I call her) Leonhart Riza actually quote the famous german poem Die Gedanken sind frei ??? Even more confusing to hear an evil character quote that poem...well, maybe she goes full viva la resitance mode at some point, I dunno... But why does her superior Father Trifa 'holy vessel' not execute her on the spot? That poem definatly goes against everything the evil characters stand for. Right now Iam looking up google for a source to proof that this poem was censored/forbidden during that 12 years. But I don´t find anything, maybe it was not censored/forbidden, my memories could be wrong here. FYI, as an german student I was forced to learn that poem, and still can cite it. It´s a good one thought, and I like it. |
DustbreathOct 22, 2017 1:50 PM
Oct 22, 2017 11:10 PM
#67
Dustbreath said: TheDoggoneGirl said: Sucks because the episode 0 was pretty interesting and it made me curious more, but here comes the main series and it's shit. Idk it just pisses me off. Had that vibe about ep0 to. It made some promises, and I wanna check in on thoose. Ep1+2 were slow, boring or confusing. I mean...did that fight between Ren and the forces of evil really really happend or just part of his altered memories/imagination/dream/Vietnam flashback... I dunno. At some point ep2 tells me:"Yeah, shit is totally true. See? People die!" and then "No, nothing happend, all is in your head, don´t do drugs kidz!" Ahh yeah; 'people are dead when they die' - Was stated just b4 the fight...So something something must´ve happend, then unicorn-magic. Being 'confusing' is not necessaryly a bad thing, but I do expect something in return. And so far the show did not deliever. My patience growing thin, so I will follow the "3-Episode-Rule" and give it one last shot at ep3 - maybe some fireworks idk...At least the outro song did grow on me, and it´s a good thing you can tab out while it´s playing ;) The fight scene really did happen, Ren just forced himself to believe that everything was a dream so his everyday life won't end (this is one of the reasons he fought Shirou). Now, he had his wounds healed by Rusalka because, as Bey said, they were just testing him. Rusalka also used her magic to repair the damage done to the park as they don't want to attract attention from the authorities (at least for now). Episode 3 should answer some questions. Last thing for any1 who knows the original material or speaks japanese or does have access to various fansubs. Weltall subs weren´t avaible when I watched ep2. Did the evil broodmother(what I call her) Leonhart Riza actually quote the famous german poem Die Gedanken sind frei ??? Even more confusing to hear an evil character quote that poem...well, maybe she goes full viva la resitance mode at some point, I dunno... But why does her superior Father Trifa 'holy vessel' not execute her on the spot? That poem definatly goes against everything the evil characters stand for. Right now Iam looking up google for a source to proof that this poem was censored/forbidden during that 12 years. But I don´t find anything, maybe it was not censored/forbidden, my memories could be wrong here. FYI, as an german student I was forced to learn that poem, and still can cite it. It´s a good one thought, and I like it. I'm not so sure if that was intentional or not. I checked out a let's play of the vn to see what she says, and she says: "Everyone's entitled to they own mindset.". I don't know what to think about this. Also, Leonhart is not Riza, is Kei Sakurai (the girl in the hallway with Rusalka). All of the L.D.O. have nicknames. For example, Sakurai is Leonhart, Wilhelm is Kaziklu Bey, Rusalka is Malleus Maleficarum, Reinhard is Mephistopheles, and so on. Oh, and for why Trifa doesn't kill her on the spot. He's not that evil. Well, not many of the L.D.O. are pure evil, they just chose evil ways because those guarantees that their wish would come true. |
Oct 23, 2017 4:01 AM
#68
Takes guts to stare at a girl's panties, say their colors, and then snap a picture all while the girls are both staring and talking to you. Anyway, I'm getting weird vibes from this... like... Big Order vibes from this, as in, it's not good and I have no idea whats going on at all... but hey, it hasn't become a total dumpster fire yet, so that's good, though it is making some questionable decisions... lets hope it stays that way. Also I like the credits theme. |
A Wild and Small Otaku has Appeared! |
Oct 23, 2017 11:24 AM
#69
shame we didn't see Ren Fujii unleashed his true power!... more hot chix much better! 3/5. |
Oct 23, 2017 12:08 PM
#70
Gave it a rewatch, some things become clear and raises new question at the same time :) ovy7 said: Ren just forced himself to believe that everything was a dream so his everyday life won't end (this is one of the reasons he fought Shirou). he had his wounds healed by Rusalka...also used her magic to repair the damage done to the park hmpf, the 2 seconds needed to show this onscreen...Now it makes sense, thank you very much! I mean, they even fixed his clothes, and wiped the place...with unicorn-magic, now I get it. BuuUUUUUUT, Rusalka 'Malleus Maleficarum' Schwägelin brought the line:"We´ll do this another day" "We" can only continue when the memory of Ren stays halfway intact, hah, intentionally not wiped his HDD. Slowly putting the pieces together; SO we got a MC with an sleeping great power, unknown dark past who struggle to uphold his own reality. I believe you that ep3 will clear things up and double the entertaiment value. I'm not so sure if that was intentional or not. Iam not an native english speaker(you might´ve already noticed :), but it´s a weird translation regardless the japanese sentence. Or is it common to say "Thoughts are free" in english communities around the globe? So either CR fked up again or it was placed intentionally for whatever reason. Trifa's not that evil. Well, not many of the L.D.O. are pure evil, they just chose evil ways because those guarantees that their wish would come true. Don´t tell me that the goal of Trifa is Theresa...please tell me he is a sane-satanic-nazi-priest who just wants the standard-package of immortality and ego-trip-power... Ahhh, who am I kidding...he does impersonate(=?!) a priest after all... And for not being that evil: When I see evil, I call it evil! The rewatch showed me that the 'Thrash-Lady' is also the 'Park-Lady' - the one who called Trifa hentai, bitchslapped him into the thrash and gave him one more with her bag(or fist). There are only so many characters in the show(3=Trifa/Ren/Kasumi) who even saw her. Initially(!) I thought Ren had one of his Vietnam-Flashbacks and sleepwalked into the park, stumbled across Kizuklu and the murder, wich made him snap out of it. With a (sober!)rewatch, it´s more like he was possessed and remote-controlled by Trifa, who appeared as an spiritual guide...ahh wait, "Are you the one Mercurius sent?" "Because that shithead Mercurius told you to(kill)" Mercurius 'Karl Ernst Kraft, Cagliostro' - puh, names getting complicated thanks to a big cast. Mixed up Riza and Leonhart. Somehow I did forget the Megane/Glasses and went with the hair color... Anyway, the evildoers/KarlKraft also made REN chase the Thrash-Lady into the testing-ground, and commit a murder. Either by using 'divine-vessel power'(hah, now it make sense!), or manipulating the sleeping great power within Ren. There´s only one character with a clear motive(besides being evil) to go after the Thrash-Lady, so Trifa must´ve had a hand in the play. If the purpose of the murder-scene was to kill a 'random passerby' they would not´ve used the Thrash-Lady. I bet 100 Internetpoints that we will see the Thrash-Lady again(in some form or another)! The show already told me, 'people are dead when they die' and 'I can see dead people' = Wiedergänger confirmed! On the other hand, I might´ve already spend to much time and thoughts on this show ;) |
Oct 23, 2017 2:18 PM
#71
Dustbreath said: Slowly putting the pieces together; SO we got a MC with an sleeping great power, unknown dark past who struggle to uphold his own reality. Basically yes. I believe you that ep3 will clear things up and double the entertaiment value. Well, it should clear some things, but it all depends on how much of chapter 3 of the vn they will adapt. Don´t tell me that the goal of Trifa is Theresa...please tell me he is a sane-satanic-nazi-priest who just wants the standard-package of immortality and ego-trip-power... Ahhh, who am I kidding...he does impersonate(=?!) a priest after all... He does have something to do with Rea, but not in that way lol. And about his wish, his talk with Ren outside the church hints at it ;). The rewatch showed me that the 'Thrash-Lady' is also the 'Park-Lady' - the one who called Trifa hentai, bitchslapped him into the thrash and gave him one more with her bag(or fist). There are only so many characters in the show(3=Trifa/Ren/Kasumi) who even saw her. This is wierd as I don't remember the victim to be the same person in the vn. Maybe they didn't wanted to animate a new character lol. Mixed up Riza and Leonhart. Somehow I did forget the Megane/Glasses and went with the hair color... The hair color was wierd here, probably because of the lightning, as in the vn is black. Anyway, the evildoers/KarlKraft also made REN chase the Thrash-Lady into the testing-ground, and commit a murder. Either by using 'divine-vessel power'(hah, now it make sense!), or manipulating the sleeping great power within Ren. There´s only one character with a clear motive(besides being evil) to go after the Thrash-Lady, so Trifa must´ve had a hand in the play. If the purpose of the murder-scene was to kill a 'random passerby' they would not´ve used the Thrash-Lady. I bet 100 Internetpoints that we will see the Thrash-Lady again(in some form or another)! The show already told me, 'people are dead when they die' and 'I can see dead people' = Wiedergänger confirmed! On the other hand, I might´ve already spend to much time and thoughts on this show ;) I think you are looking too much into the murder of that lady :) |
Oct 23, 2017 6:12 PM
#72
ovy7 said: I think you are looking too much into the murder of that lady :) Ok, let me double down with 200 Internetpoints, that we will see her again, in one form or another. |
Oct 24, 2017 8:00 AM
#73
One panty shot, and half the audience—or at least the half commenting here about that scene—starts crying foul. Calm down. It's not the end of the world. Fanservice used to be A LOT more gratuitous. Personally, I kinda miss those carefree times. Many shows nowadays are restrained to the point of mediocrity. By trying to be inoffensive they hardly take any risks. |
Oct 24, 2017 8:41 AM
#74
aikaflip said: One panty shot, and half the audience—or at least the half commenting here about that scene—starts crying foul. Calm down. It's not the end of the world. Fanservice used to be A LOT more gratuitous. Personally, I kinda miss those carefree times. Many shows nowadays are restrained to the point of mediocrity. By trying to be inoffensive they hardly take any risks. Yeah, people really got triggered by a panty shot that lasted a couple seconds. You could argue the scene show some of the MC's character. The dude calmy took picture of the girls' panties, put the average harem protagonist in the same situation and I bet he'll try to apologize for seeing their pantsu before being kicked by the girls. |
Oct 24, 2017 4:24 PM
#75
ovy7 said: aikaflip said: One panty shot, and half the audience—or at least the half commenting here about that scene—starts crying foul. Calm down. It's not the end of the world. Fanservice used to be A LOT more gratuitous. Personally, I kinda miss those carefree times. Many shows nowadays are restrained to the point of mediocrity. By trying to be inoffensive they hardly take any risks. Yeah, people really got triggered by a panty shot that lasted a couple seconds. You could argue the scene show some of the MC's character. The dude calmy took picture of the girls' panties, put the average harem protagonist in the same situation and I bet he'll try to apologize for seeing their pantsu before being kicked by the girls. I agree with this, i didnt mind it in the VN even tho it was funnier and better drawn there. But if you read the VN, they couldve replaced this scene with a more important one between the antagonists that happened before panty shot scene in the VN. In that scene, Reinhard and Mercurius were talking about their whole reason for their plan, as well as some characterization on both of them. |
The peasant is bound by the king. The king is bound by the peasants and their kingdom. But the Viking is bound to nothing but themselves. |
Oct 24, 2017 4:41 PM
#76
JotunheimrLoki said: kchorrex2012 said: I haven't played the VN and skipped episode 0 by recommendation of Tokyosaurus to "avoid getting lost". So far I have just ONE question. Why would you produce a series so confusing that you still have to play the VN? That's not how you get more players, it's just counterproductive (unless you just want to please only your niche audience, then it's fine I guess). Steins;Gate did cut things from the original but it was still totally understandable on its own. So far this has been more of a chaos;child kind of experience with way more generic elements. I almost fell asleep during this episode, I wish I was exaggerating; so far there's nothing that makes me even try the VN out of curiosity at least. One more episode like this and I'll be dropping it, and I rarely drop series. but you should watch ep 0, its prequel, but from what you are writing, you wouldn't like it seems. Ep 0 is basically first half of what writes in synopsis of this anime, + showing antagonist(or one of antagonists - Reinhard) motivations for stuff happening now and how he comes to that. I'll give it a try before watching episode 3 (haven't read the spoiler tag). The only thing that kinda kept me interested was the killings mystery which was sort of resolved (needs to be properly explained though it was predictable). I'm kinda pissed that now that I don't have much time to watch series the few shows I've tried were disappointing... Let's see what happens with this. |
Oct 26, 2017 11:58 AM
#77
ovy7 said: aikaflip said: One panty shot, and half the audience—or at least the half commenting here about that scene—starts crying foul. Calm down. It's not the end of the world. Fanservice used to be A LOT more gratuitous. Personally, I kinda miss those carefree times. Many shows nowadays are restrained to the point of mediocrity. By trying to be inoffensive they hardly take any risks. Yeah, people really got triggered by a panty shot that lasted a couple seconds. You could argue the scene show some of the MC's character. The dude calmy took picture of the girls' panties, put the average harem protagonist in the same situation and I bet he'll try to apologize for seeing their pantsu before being kicked by the girls. Exactly. It showed a side of his personality that set him apart from the typical anime lead. He didn't panic or get a nose bleed, either. It's like some people didn't even bother to watch the rest of the episode. It's not the greatest show ever, but it's not bad at all. The mystery is intriguing. A lot of pieces have been laid out that'll, hopefully, come together soon. |
Oct 26, 2017 7:10 PM
#78
Lol this reminds me of Mirai Nikki. "It doesn't make sense," says MC when he wakes up on the bench. Perfectly sums up this show. The ending song gave me nostalgia for some reason. I think it reminds me of the Hex Girls from Scooby Doo lol? I don't know. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Oct 27, 2017 8:36 AM
#79
I'm guessing the MC's a reincarnation of that one guy, or he's being possessed by him. Probably killed his own parents when he was younger. |
Oct 29, 2017 2:00 AM
#80
So bad it feels like a parody and yet again didnt made any sense at all |
Oct 29, 2017 3:01 AM
#81
Welp, I still don't know what is going on or what this is about. I feel like source material is needed to actually get what is going on? |
Oct 29, 2017 5:37 AM
#82
Oct 30, 2017 6:18 AM
#83
Lol and here I thought the anime might improve, but it actually got worse this episode... |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
Oct 30, 2017 7:06 PM
#84
What is this show trying to do or be? The ED is terrible. |
Nov 1, 2017 10:17 AM
#85
Nov 7, 2017 9:44 AM
#86
What is going on man, a prequel episode and 2 episodes in and its just a mess off loads of stuff not being explained at all. |
Nov 10, 2017 4:13 AM
#87
kchorrex2012 said: I haven't played the VN and skipped episode 0 by recommendation of Tokyosaurus to "avoid getting lost". So far I have just ONE question. Why would you produce a series so confusing that you still have to play the VN? That's not how you get more players, it's just counterproductive (unless you just want to please only your niche audience, then it's fine I guess). Steins;Gate did cut things from the original but it was still totally understandable on its own. So far this has been more of a chaos;child kind of experience with way more generic elements. I almost fell asleep during this episode, I wish I was exaggerating; so far there's nothing that makes me even try the VN out of curiosity at least. One more episode like this and I'll be dropping it, and I rarely drop series. You didn't know that fans of the VN did a crowdfunding campaign to make this anime? Basically , they paid for this anime. |
Nov 10, 2017 11:31 AM
#88
RebelPanda said: This reminds me of Chronos Ruler from last season. Little to no effort in explaining the action, but in this show, there is almost no context to it. It feels kind of like a harem too... that's probably what it will devolve into. I can't imagine I'll be sitting through 8 more episodes of this. YES. Definitely reminds me of chronos ruler (which I dropped) probably due to the animation style but there isn't nearly as much garbage CGI in this one, but this seems slightly better and I can actually watch past 3 episodes. This series might be one of those where everything falls into place around episode 6 and your mind is blown. That's what I think atleast. |
Nov 10, 2017 11:38 AM
#89
I'm not finding this confusing at all, and I haven't played the VN (although I'm planning to because I really like the ideas in this). It's the kind of anime that slowly unfolds its backstory, and there's clearly a lot of it. This reminds me of the kind of novels I wanted to write when I was 14 and it gives me a nice feeling of nostalgia. |
Dec 30, 2017 2:09 PM
#90
Sep 28, 2020 3:45 AM
#91
bittersweetlove said: TheDoggoneGirl said: It's been two episodes and I'm still confused about what the hell's going on, and I couldn't bear to waste my time watching this show anymore. Dropped 4/10 Same here! I will give it one more shot next week, and then I might drop... Finding it alittle too messy for my liking. |
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