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Oct 5, 2017 7:49 AM

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I wonder if there will ever come a day when we get to see those ideals turned into a reality *Sigh*
I mean, they show us the charm of the ideal world and YET...yet it's always obstructed by some cheapskate ideology in the end. *Sigh*

Anyways, continuing it has become such a chore. if it weren't some of the cast I like, I'd have hate this adaptation.

OP is okay. Whilst first ED was the best. the new ED is not bad at all. Yep. Loved the figure of Jeanne at the window <3
Oct 5, 2017 12:34 PM

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The op feels like im watching sao. Im aware lisa also did some fate op but man I feel like im watching isekai with that op. Ed is okay.
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Oct 5, 2017 1:06 PM
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forcestriker said:




Why do those two have more chemistry than Sieg and Jeanne?


Cause it's Laeticia who loves Sieg, Jeanne sees him as a child and thus has motherly affection for him. Laeticia is actually in love with Sieg.
Oct 5, 2017 3:58 PM
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pmgbove said:
Cause it's Laeticia who loves Sieg, Jeanne sees him as a child and thus has motherly affection for him.

Nah, that's just secondary headcanon/fanwank by delusional redditors.
No one actually believes him.

could you BE anymore of a redditor?

Jeanne begin to fall in love with the strong and thick dragon dick on chapter 4 of volume 3, after half the volume 4, Jeanne had completely fallen for him, and in the end she tells God to fuck off and then she leaves the throne of heroes to live with Siege in not-Avalon.
Oct 5, 2017 5:03 PM
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forcestriker said:
@Rayrin

More of the same repetitive shit no one cares about.
To be honest, We don't need haters like yourself.



Uh..oh, someone is triggered over something which you said yourself no one cares about. Bland character fanboy much?



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Oct 5, 2017 6:49 PM

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@Rayrin

That's what I get for replying to a dedicated shitposter of the type hater/rager that posts shit that add absolutely nothing to the discussion, Won’t happen again.


Oct 5, 2017 6:53 PM
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Episode 14 preview [Eng Sub] by MyBUSHIDO



14. Pray for the Salvation

Sieg managed to see Jeanne d'Arc again at Castle Millennia.
Jeanne got to know what had happened to him. Even though she remonstrates him, she inquires about his resolution for fighting in the Great Holy Grail War.

Meanwhile, Avicebron, the Caster of Black, betrayed Black Faction - Yggdmillennia clan for the sake of his desire. He tells the truth to Roche, looking up to him.
Oct 5, 2017 11:07 PM
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Is the anime good? I dropped it at ep 4


Why you did not like it ?!

In my opinion, it is one of the best anime in the season. THe last few episodes has very heavy action and many people got killed


I thought I would watch it all in one go but then, saw the score drop down dramatically
Oct 6, 2017 6:24 AM

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Fate/Apocrypha on the cover of Comptiq November 2017 Issue!

Oct 6, 2017 10:49 AM

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this Sieg plotline is boring and cliché & makes me cringe. love the new ed.
Oct 6, 2017 2:23 PM

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Jesus Christ I didn’t think it could get worse, but it did...

Ohh it did...
Oct 6, 2017 5:52 PM

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on one hand, we have the red side, which is a legit, interesting, cool side,

On the other hand..

We have the black aka fetish side, with Trap, Loli, M Master, Shota, and self insert who for some reason is attracting fetishes along the curvy Arturia clone. The only good thing on the black side are the siblings, The others just bring the damn thing down.

Atleast Mordred keeps proving she is best Saibah.
Oct 6, 2017 8:43 PM

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What a great turn of events!
omg LiSA for the OP! and new ED also!
5/5.


Oct 6, 2017 9:37 PM
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What was Shirou doing out at the 18if series?



He’s just another generic psycho villain screaming ''I want to save mankind'' and trying to twist mankind into what he want’s it to be, because he’s decided he’s right.

In this episode, He simply presented one of the biggest asspull power ups in the history of franchise.
He simply becomes the master of 6 Servants and now has a total of 7 Servants |o|
A single Master with seven Servents. This is literally one of the biggest asspull power ups in the history of franchise.

We should also not forget that Jeanne could have simply used her Holy abilities to exorcise Vlad in episode 12, lol wtf, but she simply doesn't use them because Higashide wanted a cool reveal to chunni priest and wanted make him look cool in this episode lol




Urr, what? two chunni priests with the 'salvation of humankind' generic plotline, I thought I might throw up again |o|
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Oct 6, 2017 11:35 PM

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brizentshirome said:

He simply becomes the master of 6 Servants and now has a total of 7 Servants |o|
A single Master with seven Servents. This is literally one of the biggest asspull power ups in the history of franchise.


No it's not. For once Berserker is already dead and Mordred is still with her master, so Shirou only has 5 servants.

Second, at one point of UBW Caster had 3 servants (Assassin, Archer, Saber), so I fail to see why Shirou getting multiple servants is an asspull. As for where he is getting the prana for that, why do you think he waited until the Holy Grail was stolen to get those command seals? Actual quote from the LN:

Shirou said:

“I peacefully had them turn over their rights as Masters and each of their three Command Spells. Don’t worry, the prana necessary to keep you all in this world is a trivial amount to supply now that I’m connected to the Greater Grail.”
Oct 7, 2017 3:44 AM
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JGChaves said:
No it's not. For once Berserker is already dead and Mordred is still with her master, so Shirou only has 5 servants.

I made a mistake, he makes a contract with Avicebron too, so he has 6 servants.

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Second, at one point of UBW Caster had 3 servants (Assassin, Archer, Saber), so I fail to see why Shirou getting multiple servants is an asspull.

Maeda had 3 servants and what it already sounded ridiculous.
And we now have a single Master with 6 servants, Karna and Achilles among them (the two strongest servants from show).
He has 6 servants whilst all rest has 1 |o|.
We have 10 servants still alive, and he has 6 servants, that's more than half the living servants (60%) |o|.

A single Master with 6 Servents. AIt feels like some fanfiction written by a chunni virgin child.
Oct 7, 2017 6:59 AM

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I did not like the shameful death Vlad III did, what a sadness! The new opening and the new ending, I like enough. The issue of omunculus, which was marginal, was becoming more and more prevalent, like Sig, interesting! Finally I'm in the same with this anime series, I did not think it could even become so interesting, as the episodes progressed, I'm satisfied so far.
Oct 7, 2017 4:17 PM
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Wow The New Ending reminds me of Tales of Xilla 2 Game Intro
Oct 9, 2017 1:53 AM

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New OP is so much better than the 1st.

Astolfo is so fucking moe~
Oct 11, 2017 2:48 AM

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Mordred saves the show again! Best part of this episode, the whole rest was boring...of course Sieg would turn into a master and Rider would become the servant...
Oct 19, 2017 10:46 AM
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pmgbove said:
Cause it's Laeticia who loves Sieg, Jeanne sees him as a child and thus has motherly affection for him.

Nah, that's just secondary headcanon/fanwank by delusional redditors.
No one actually believes him.

could you BE anymore of a redditor?

Jeanne begin to fall in love with the strong and thick dragon dick on chapter 4 of volume 3, after half the volume 4, Jeanne had completely fallen for him, and in the end she tells God to fuck off and then she leaves the throne of heroes to live with Siege in not-Avalon.


There's a quote in a thread that goes like this:
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Oct 20, 2017 8:14 AM
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The humunculus has a "fighter"!!! kekeke
Oct 21, 2017 4:33 PM

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THANK YOU! OP2 is so much better than the boring first one. has alot more drive, more awesome scenes and the better voice. ED2 also much better, would have been sad having a main fate show without awesome music. the fate feeling is back. *yokatta
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Oct 26, 2017 7:12 AM

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wow for the first time i'm actually a bit glad that Sieg didn't die yet, just cause he saved best guy Astolfo =D
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Oct 30, 2017 11:47 AM

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I noticed the animation quality dropped in this episode, hopefully it's a one time thing.

The OP is somewhat better from the previous one, I can't say the same for the ED though...
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Oct 30, 2017 12:34 PM

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The OP is somewhat better from the previous one, I can't say the same for the ED though...


For me is the opposite: I find the new ED great, and with an actual purpose, while the OP is pretty generic and far more forgettable than the first one.
Different opinions, I guess.
Nov 3, 2017 9:02 AM

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New OP and ED :)

Damn, Mordred shut her up completely. I really wish Jeanne D' Arc was part of the original main series. It makes sense to have a ruler who judges the winner of the holy grail war.

Can't wait for the next one!
Nov 6, 2017 11:58 PM

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whooa now that messed up.

Caster of Black join Red faction, Saber of Red join black faction, how about Archer and Rider of Red? did they also join the black faction or just runaway?
Nov 10, 2017 1:50 PM

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a lot of Sieg haters in these discussion threads...leave my boi Sieg alone!!!!

Proud of ya!

Astolfo x Sieg x Jeanne (yeah i know what astolfo is XD)
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Dec 2, 2017 1:21 PM

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All the changing sides is almost ridiculous, everyone is just doing whatever, it doesn't feels like real holy grail war anymore... Original FSN did like 100% better than this shit. And Sieg was still as annoying as ever, can't really stand him at all.

I really don't like the story developement of this series, guess it's beyong saving already.
(new OP/ED being pretty average too).

Right now, Mordred/Shishigou is probably the only pair left that's even worth to follow but in mess like this I'm afraid that's not enough to drive this series forward. And the death of Astlofo's former master by her hand was a joke, like 'btw and here I kill you for laughs' really?
Jan 1, 2018 8:54 AM

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It feels like rest of the series is pretty much set up at this point with Shiro being the bad guy and others trying to defeat him in standard heroes defeating demon king structure.

Really though, the black raider master was really simply a crazy bitch with no reminding qualities what so ever. I won't deny that it was satisfying to see her head go flying out of nowhere but truly, if we are speaking of badly written characters than that would be her.

Then there is Sieg who is turning alright I guess, given that his starting point was newborn homonculus. Then again in the end he will simply be THE GOOD GUY, teenager hero wannabe.

Still, this series really drops the bucket by not making Mordered and Shishigou the MCs. If they were MCs then the story would easily become two grades batter and this is clear from few episodes that they are put in MC position... here however it slowly but surely becomes a high-schooler saving the world scenario.

Hmm... after reading few previous comments I didn't want to hate on Sieg but just by giving my honest thoughts on ep, it feels like I did just that.
Feb 6, 2018 6:00 AM

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Sieg is boring and generic as fuck. The changing sides was bad. Celenike is crazy. I'm glad that Mordred is still there to save the anime. 3/5
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Feb 7, 2018 8:25 PM

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Rider's a trap? I definitely thought 'he' was a 'she'.
Feb 24, 2018 9:18 PM
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Shirou increasingly delusional lol save mankind, Jeanne should've been on his side then. Caster still seems pretty weak tho so far only making smallfries.
Rather unexplained red archer & lancer just turn against Shirou.
Mordred casually beheading like awesome.
So much Sieg Astolfo shipping.
New OP much better, and with Sieg Jeanne holding hands. ED visuals great too.
Mar 1, 2018 1:36 AM

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So...Astolfo's master...what was her problem again? Was she just obsessed with the Astolfo in legend or something? But, well, the point of her character seemed to have been a guiltless reason to have Astolfo switch masters. Eh.
Mar 1, 2018 2:26 AM
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So...Astolfo's master...what was her problem again? Was she just obsessed with the Astolfo in legend or something?

She was just sadistic and wanted to see despair on the face of such a positive Heroic Spirit, that's why she tried to make Astolfo kill Sieg with his own hands.
Mar 1, 2018 10:40 AM

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Shocked said:
So...Astolfo's master...what was her problem again? Was she just obsessed with the Astolfo in legend or something?

She was just sadistic and wanted to see despair on the face of such a positive Heroic Spirit, that's why she tried to make Astolfo kill Sieg with his own hands.

Huh, well, fair enough. I suppose it just felt oddly specific, as in she wanted to summon specifically Astolfo only for sadistic reasons.
Mar 1, 2018 10:46 AM
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She was just sadistic and wanted to see despair on the face of such a positive Heroic Spirit, that's why she tried to make Astolfo kill Sieg with his own hands.

Huh, well, fair enough. I suppose it just felt oddly specific, as in she wanted to summon specifically Astolfo only for sadistic reasons.

I think that's a possibility, Astolfo wouldn't be summoned to someone like her without a catalyst, lol.
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Jun 23, 2019 7:40 AM

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Some nail's Rider's master got to the point it bleeds her head.

Looking at the OP and the ED, I think something gonna happen between Sieg and Jeanne.
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Jul 3, 2019 8:34 PM
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Everything was great! I'm so glad Alstofo became Sieg's servant. I might just ship them now. Best waifu 10/10
Jul 9, 2019 3:59 AM

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New OP is way better than the old one, the old one was quite bad though. New ending is alright.

Seems like there will now only be a handful of masters against the old Ruler and his servants, seems like the black side is the "good" one now.
Jul 12, 2019 9:23 PM

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thank god that megane bitch is dead

Aug 28, 2019 7:20 AM

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The major mistake that mordred actually committed is that she didnt prana burst sieg into oblivion to begin with but then again most people die when they are stabbed through the heart killed

Fixed it for you. :D

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I was about to complain about so many fictional characters from fiction (Semiramis, Atlanta, Achilles, Frankenstein, Chiron, Frankenstein, etc...) becoming servants in apocrypha but then I remembered half of the servants in FSN didn't really exist historically either.

Half?

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Glad to see Astolfo gets to live. He's one of the best characters in this show.
Dec 17, 2019 2:25 PM
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Every time I think Sieg will die i get excited, but i need to rewire my brain cus obviously the plot wants him to survive and maybe win? or at least get pretty far.
just plz can he and alfonso die--this pair is ruining the show for me--they're just so trite and it hurts ;-;

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Maybe not the greatest show ever, but I find it entertaining enough to keep watching, with some characters' journey particularly interesting.
Weirdly enough, I don't dislike the MC as I usually do with these kind of bland characters, and I think his relationship with Astolfo is rather sweet and funny.
Mordred best character. And I still don't fully get who Priest Shirou is, he MUST have something to do with the idiot from FSN, mustn't he?
Apr 12, 2020 3:22 PM

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Damn that was something...so little masters left
Apr 28, 2020 9:19 PM

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Why do those two have more chemistry than Sieg and Jeanne?
but he is a man, lol
May 8, 2020 9:10 PM

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erm what so Seig became a master? How? Can a grail suddenly choose a new master halfway through? And why is seig's command spell different (black instead of usual red)? i guess it is a greater grail so as the phrase is repeated throughout "anything could happen".
I will say it is hard to keep track on who is now on who's side, but overall i guess black and red teams merged with Chiron and Jack being the only exceptions and also looks like Amakusa Shirou is now public enemy number 1 in this war.
dk if it's just me, but i understand that Seig is playing a real life "Trifas, Become Human" and is the supposed mc along side Jeanne, but Mordred and Shishigou feel more like the main characters then the actual main characters, like i've yet to see seig pull a stunt equal to there's and he's suppose to have the one up :/
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