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Elanin said: Naulii said: We've seen in this video that some planet is going to crash with earth. Here is one theory from reddit, too. 'Soooo, on the last few frames, we see Rin in the ship. Pay attention to the UI in the background, you can a trajectory. I though about it, and the direction of the trajectory doesn't make much sense : it comes from outside the system, toward the star. It doesn't look like an aimless trajectory, and I think the ship is landing soon. Since we know the ship has been sailing for 2539 days or about 7 years. How about we look at the nearby stars within 7 light years. Alpha Centauri an Luhman 16 are candidates, as they both have known planets (and maybe more) So yeah, her father had a degree in VR, space engineering and life support :)' Written by https://www.reddit.com/user/reblochon That's the best theory i guess for this. However an 8/10 will be fair rating. lol these tinfoil theories are stupidly crazy. Dimethylanime said: WHAT you're not allowed to make a legitimately good music video How did this happen Apart from the visuals itself, the music isn't even that good, and the plot people talk about is incoherent at best. |
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OppaiSugoi said: Dimethylanime said: WHAT you're not allowed to make a legitimately good music video How did this happen Apart from the visuals itself, the music isn't even that good, and the plot people talk about is incoherent at best. I personally really liked the song; it was catchy! The visuals were pretty, and I enjoyed and understood the plot. But each to their own:) |
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jeremeel2015 said: bastek66 said: Aside from stupid review system that doesn't allow disagree or point out wrong things with review, people are annoyed by constant shilling Sony pulled with this AMV. +1 i agree with you, they should put a disagree button, someone might think that all reviews are helpful lol Then don't click on helpful review button duh..what's the difference?This isn't reddit where you play upvote and downvote game. |
| Noticed this on the front page so I decided to watch it. I cried at the end. Maybe someday people will be able to dream through technology... I'm not sure what to think of that. |
| It was nice. It felt more like a music video than a video with musical accompaniment though. Like with most videos of this nature, it leaves me wanting to know more. Maybe not a series, but a short film perhaps? Maybe a movie. The concepts and ideas displayed here are simply not done enough justice with a 6 minute movie video. Of course I do see a fair deal of value in leaving some parts up for interpretation, as not everything needs to be known to take away the same message. That being said, complaining about a lack of story/development seems a bit petty to me. In a work like this, the story and characters should not be the thoughts that are first evoked when thinking about it. The ideas expressed, the themes explored, and the general message should be the primary aspects. I'm not entirely sure what that message is though. I get the general themes of isolation, existentialism, etc. but these ideas are nothing new. If someone could give me a good interpretation of what can be taken away from the video, I would very much appreciate it. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
| After watching re zero and this I conclude that I've become a cynical and jaded little faggot who can't produce a tear at the industry's attempts to make people cry anymore |
Aure0linOct 21, 2016 8:56 PM
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
4kicks said: For some reason, there are a lot of trolls here with shit like "only weebs like this garbage". I truly pity them, because it means their life must really suck if shitposting for no good reason is what gets them off. That, or they're still immature, living with their parents sucking on their mothers tit. Where are these people? I haven't seen them on MAL. If anything, it's the reverse. Some people are voicing issues they had with the short and a lot of the people who loved it are getting salty and resorting to immature name-calling, false labelling, etc. Tiemuuu said: I just don't see what crimes Shelter has done. it's a straight forward scifi short that has a twist in narration. it's not trying to be anything else. it's beautiful to look at and I don't see anything wrong with the directing. The gist of it is that it tried to be something narratively when it hardly put any effort into said narrative, making it come off as a cheap attempt at feelsbait. If it had cut the dialogue, the letter, and minimized the story aspect it would have been a lot better, I think. Furiko and Tsumiki no Ie are excellent examples of short-form storytelling done well. I wasn't asking for their level of storytelling in Shelter, but Shelter still disappointed in this regard. LeCrazyPanda said: Holy crap, some of these people calling Shelter "garbage"and "insulting" are exaggerating waaaaay too much. There is a point that I will concede, that Shelter lacks substance. Well, of course it does, its a 6 minute video for a song. The mere fact that a cohesive, rather emotional story was squeezed into those 6 minutes while still fitting the music was already impressive in and of itself. The main focus really shouldn't be on the plot, but on the audiovisual content. In fact, the entire reason the video exists is to present it's audiovisual content, and should therefore be judged based on that criterion. Everything exists for a purpose. all series DO something, every single series exists to put forwards a point. For fanservice-filled crap, it's to make the viewer enjoy themselves. For more complicated works, it's to make the viewer actually stop and consider something. Series like these have morals, they have lessons, they have themes and symbols and complex plot arcs. AND they're 12-24 episodes long. Shelter is quite literally a 6 minute video designed to present a song. A SONG. It's entire purpose to exist is to present a song. The mere fact that it manages to fit in any "semblance of a story" at all is actually rather impressive. And you know what? That story was DECENT. It detailed the anguish of the father of a young child as he desperately tries to save her from his dying world, and her loneliness, then pain and later acceptance when she realizes what he had done for her. And it took all of that and condensed it into 6 minutes. Sure, it used petty tricks. Depending on how you looked at it, it probably even forced emotional responses from the audience with feels all that. But, if you had to tell the same story with the same amount of emotional resonance and depth in a measly 360 seconds, how would you have done it? I'm not saying that there ISN'T a better way to present this, but the way Shelter did it sure as hell wasn't bad. My arguments will probably get ripped apart and stomped on, but I just feel like some people are expecting waaaaay too much from this music video. I mean, it's meant for enjoyment, and it's only 6 minutes long. It was made for people to look at and enjoy, so don't hate on it and act all cynical. Sorry for rant, I was feeling salty and I had some time on my hands. I'm the guy that's come to rip your post apart, but if you're perceptive enough to realize this is salty you'll probably be fine. First of all, saying that Shelter lacks substance and following it up by saying it has a "cohesive, rather emotional story" is as contradictory as it gets. If the focus should have been on the audiovisual content, Shelter shouldn't have attempted to be anything more in the first place. The dialogue, the flashbacks, and the letter all indicate that Shelter is trying to be something more than "just" pretty audiovisuals. If it hadn't done so, my opinion of it (and, I believe, the opinion of most of the naysayers) would have been a lot better-- but then, it wouldn't have gotten nearly as much popularity either. See how that works? I completely disagree with the claim that Shelter's story was decent, nor that it had any sort of emotional resonance or (hah) depth. It wasn't fleshed out enough for the type of story it was trying to tell. If one were to try to tell the same story better in the same amount of time, the majority of said time should have been spent on the story itself rather than inside the virtual reality, or at least on telling the story through the virtual reality (e.g. the recreated memory concept). I mean, if you yourself recognize that the short is using petty tricks to attempt to elicit an emotional response, why would you assume those who criticize that are being cynical? Even if they hate it, why make assumptions about what kind of people they are? Is this not immaturity, to try to defame rather than understand? The backlash toward the critics is completely unwarranted from what I've seen. Fai said: Gnk said: People is really, really funny. I didn't see any hate on anyone's part when Me!Me!Me! came out and it was fanservice at its purest, yet people here and there seemed to think it was powerful and/or meaningful and stuff, probably just since khara was involved in it and the artist was already known. Now someone gives us a music video with a coherent narrative and people not only bash it but uses it as a basis of everything that's wrong with the anime medium in salty reviews that are six paragraphs longer than they need to be, probably just because he's an american whatsisname and also lame-ass studio amirite? Oh well. There's this VERY toxic idea of what is "cool" or masculine" within MAL, it seems. People feel the need to reassert how "cool" or "masculine" they are by claiming they felt nothing, because not showing emotions or not having emotions is still for some reason thought of as "cool" or "hot". Its a weird leftover in society from a bygone era. The idea that feeling emotional over something is "bad". Way to strawman. I've gotten emotional over plenty of anime-- including some panned by the non-existent boogeymen elitists like Clannad AS and Anohana-- yet this short did nothing for me. There's a very toxic idea on MAL that criticism, especially passionate criticism, is always unwarranted and/or the product of someone having x bad quality. It's not. Gnk said: Now someone gives us a music video with a coherent narrative and people not only bash it but uses it as a basis of everything that's wrong with the anime medium in salty reviews that are six paragraphs longer than they need to be, probably just because he's an american whatsisname and also lame-ass studio amirite? Nice ad hominem. You sure it isn't you who's salty? Also, the story wasn't coherent, but addressing the criticisms properly obviously wasn't your intention with this post. Gnk said: Suna_Kujira said: Or you know, people just don't like the video and don't see why others would be emotional over it? Just because you liked the video doesn't mean others are "acting cool and masculine" when they say they felt nothing. Except elitists here do like to bash on things that give off an emotional response on the viewer for the sake of appearing rational and intellectual, that pretty much hasn't changed in the eight years I've been browsing this site. They'd be more inclined to give emotionally dry anime like the Monogatari Series a near-perfect score and disregard shows like Clannad ~After Story~ or Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso for this very purpose. Uh, no. Virtually nobody does that on MAL. Criticism just isn't something MAL is mature enough to handle. I didn't find Bakemonogatari particularly compelling despite it having its moments; I have a lot of respect for Clannad AS's best parts; and I absolutely loathe and find offensive Shigatsu's narrative. I also agree with everything in Zergneedsfood's review minus it being the worst anime I've ever seen. Stereotyping people because you don't like what they have to say is just as bad as elitism because it denies the worth of other parties' opinions without any logic to back it up. Both are selfish, immature, and should have no place in discussion. Based on your later posts I can tell you for a fact that you've made gross false assumptions about Zergneedsfood because you didn't like what he had to say. The short quite honestly exemplified the biggest thing he hates in the anime medium, and you misinterpreted his criticism at that because you're too caught up on the 1 rating to actually try to read and understand. Stop acting like a hypocrite. Tiemuuu said: I have to add - if rating this 1/10 isn't elitism then I don't know what is. Elitism is thinking your own opinion is inherently more important than that of others. This can occur on an individual or class basis. Clearly, you have no idea what you're talking about. migohunter said: *insert edgy rewording of a negative review* Congratulations! You've constructed baby's first strawman. Be proud of yourself. You're well on your way to gaining the love and affection of the salty people you mentioned. LostSpectre said: Wait. What? How? Why!? Do people actually agree with that 1/10 review? Are people on MAL really this fucking pretentious? Please tell me they used some kind of botting program to get likes, I refuse to believe those are legitimate, that would honestly be really depressing. This whole production was a thing of beauty, and I came here hoping that trash was off the front page, and what I got was the complete opposite. Wait. What? How? Why!? Are there actually people who have different opinions than me? There are people who are that stupid? Please tell me that this is a hoax. It would honestly be depressing if my view wasn't unanimously hearalded as the best. I completely disagree with those people, and I come here to see that there's a lot of them. Such trash shouldn't be allowed to exist. Only my perspective matters. (On the contrary, it is your post that exemplifies the type of attitude people shouldn't put up with, LostSpectre.) Oy oy. What is this I find? Someone is actually being reasonable on the pro-short side? What madness is this? I completely disagree with your view and reasoning, but that's not why I came here. Props for actually addressing the arguments against the short with arguments of your own rather than resorting to the name calling, stereotyping, and various other forms of immaturity. I like you. You have my respect. If everyone who didn't agree with the criticisms levied against the short responded similarly to you, I probably wouldn't be here right now-- or if I was, I would be talking about the short itself a lot more. Neromon said: Always-Hungry said: What am I supposed to feel about this? Depends on who you are. Are you a smart person who has the extremely rare gift of critical thinking? Then you should hate it for being manipulative garbage. Or are you a filthy casual who doesn't understand proper storytelling, thinks pretty colours actually mean something and cries everytime a random fictional puppy dies horrifically with sad music playing? Then you should love it. Both of these stereotypes are horrible. Please stop spreading ignorance, even ironically. Some people can't tell the difference. newgard said: The hate train after something becomes popular is the main thing i avoid this community and just enjoy the medium.. Eh. It's natural for shows to gain more people that dislike them as they increase in popularity, but I don't think every popular show gets so much hate that it could be described as a hate train. 'Not sure I care for the implications of "hate train" either, but I'll let it be. Speaking as someone who previously would become bitter over such things due to my lack of perspective, as well as someone who did not like this short, I think it's sad and a shame that you've been turned off to the community. I think the main thing is to not take it personally and to try to look at it from both sides. In that sense I think I have a much better perspective of, say, Clannad than most people do. It makes the community more interesting and fun as well. malonur said: If you are over 15 and cried over this then u are an idiot. There, I said it. Leaving all the love/hate debate aside I am more curious about the power source that lasted for seven years which kept the girl alive and the ship in a working state. Oh and if you'd like to read a similar but much better short story I'd recommend Hotel by Boichi. Assuming this guy is serious, he's quite literally the only one who dislikes the short that I've seen take such an extreme stance. I do think that the feelsbait is cheap and shallow, but to call people who did get an emotional reaction out of this idiots is too harsh in my opinion. Criticism of works, like other parts of discussion around works, should generally be meant to bring about mutual understanding, not to attack. Psyotic said: It was nice. It felt more like a music video than a video with musical accompaniment though. Like with most videos of this nature, it leaves me wanting to know more. Maybe not a series, but a short film perhaps? Maybe a movie. The concepts and ideas displayed here are simply not done enough justice with a 6 minute movie video. Of course I do see a fair deal of value in leaving some parts up for interpretation, as not everything needs to be known to take away the same message. That being said, complaining about a lack of story/development seems a bit petty to me. In a work like this, the story and characters should not be the thoughts that are first evoked when thinking about it. The ideas expressed, the themes explored, and the general message should be the primary aspects. I'm not entirely sure what that message is though. I get the general themes of isolation, existentialism, etc. but these ideas are nothing new. If someone could give me a good interpretation of what can be taken away from the video, I would very much appreciate it. For the sort of story this was portraying, I really do think it needed to be fleshed out more to work. It might seem "petty" to you, but it's the whole point to me. The story was too heavily integrated into the music video to simply ignore, and it wasn't developed enough for said integration to pay off. However, and hopefully more helpfully, assuming the best of the short by casting aside the cheap feelsbait, I would say the thematic aspect of the short was static. That is, it was more about presenting an idea than saying something to that idea, so anything you "take from it" would have to come from you rather than the work. 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TripleSRankOct 21, 2016 11:09 PM
| Well, this is better than most of A-1 Picture's anime series. . . Overall : 5/10 @tehhead you can see her mother at 03:54. . . |
Kurniawan_KtrOct 21, 2016 11:33 PM
"People who don't see that anime has changed are either wearing "glasses" or watching only a certain type (and or era) of anime" "Having a low mean score doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't enjoy anime. Rating system is not a school grading system." "Elitist is people who think he is superior than others. Not necessarily ones who insulting/critisizing your favorite anime or people who enjoy a certain type of anime" "Fanboy is people who translating "your favorite anime is shit" into "you are shit". "Being a fanboy is an indication of elitism" |
TripleSRank said: Nice ad hominem. You sure it isn't you who's salty? Yeah, I was! That’s what I get for arguing with a hot head, tee hee. TripleSRank said: Also, the story wasn't coherent, but addressing the criticisms properly obviously wasn't your intention with this post. It was coherent enough for a music video. They should hold up as an audiovisual experience more than anything after all. TripleSRank said: Gnk said: Except elitists here do like to bash on things that give off an emotional response on the viewer for the sake of appearing rational and intellectual, that pretty much hasn't changed in the eight years I've been browsing this site. They'd be more inclined to give emotionally dry anime like the Monogatari Series a near-perfect score and disregard shows like Clannad ~After Story~ or Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso for this very purpose. Uh, no. Virtually nobody does that on MAL. Maybe you haven’t been on MAL enough, then. TripleSRank said: Criticism just isn't something MAL is mature enough to handle. Disagree, there have been pretty mature critics and reviewers on here. Tehnominator, Beatnik, Veronin, czxcjx, and even the infamous Polyphemus, to name just a few I used to follow. The critics community on MAL used to be one of the best. Maybe that holds true now, though, I don't know. Not been keeping up with the times. TripleSRank said: I also agree with everything in Zergneedsfood's review minus it being the worst anime I've ever seen. The opinion that the anime medium is dying because of cutesy designs and cheap emotional tricks has been going around here since Clannad/K-On! era. Poor anime, having to die so many times, am I right? TripleSRank said: Stereotyping people because you don't like what they have to say is just as bad as elitism because it denies the worth of other parties' opinions without any logic to back it up. Based on your later posts I can tell you for a fact that you've made gross false assumptions about Zergneedsfood because you didn't like what he had to say. Except for the part where I actually exchanged a profile com-to-com with him prior to start arguing here and he responding in nothing but ad hominem further proved all of my points, hehe. TripleSRank said: Both are selfish, immature, and should have no place in discussion. Gnk said: Yeah, I was! That’s what I get for arguing with a hot head, tee hee. TripleSRank said: The short quite honestly exemplified the biggest thing he hates in the anime medium, and you misinterpreted his criticism at that because you're too caught up on the 1 rating to actually try to read and understand. Like any good ThatAnimeSnob/roriconfan wannabe: An insubstantial rant about everything that's been wrong with the anime medium for the past years plus an one star rating to get people to pay attention, even when the start of his writeup admits it doesn't even deserve that rating because it at least hold up as an audiovisual experience. |
GnkOct 22, 2016 3:16 AM
| Not bad. Didn't really feel for the music and didn't understand much other than around the end which got me in the feels a bit. I'm not really good at keeping up with stuff like this unless it's spoon fed to me coz I'm stupid, and I'm also tired so I'll have to re-watch this again when I'm feeling more better. 8/10 |
| @TripleSRank Nice essay, bro |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| The MAL community is a constant source of entertainment. |
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| Err i kinda surprised to see a lot of comments here, so arrogant... you say like you can actually make better than this, can you even draw or make an anime? at least appreciate Porter, A-1 & co. Overall i enjoyed this, love everything expecially the music congrats to Porter! 8/10 |
roppuri said: we're in 2016 and people still make this argument to silence any kind of criticismErr i kinda surprised to see a lot of comments here, so arrogant... you say like you can actually make better than this, can you even draw or make an anime? at least appreciate Porter, A-1 & co. why? |
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Sapewloth said: we're in 2016 and people still make this argument to silence any kind of criticism why? Err is there something wrong with what im saying? what's wrong with silencing people who makes criticism which don't help anything at all? |
roppuriOct 22, 2016 5:01 AM
| This is meh. Cum at meh Shelter fangays |
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roppuri said: Sapewloth said: we're in 2016 and people still make this argument to silence any kind of criticism why? Err is there something wrong with what im saying? what's wrong with silencing people who makes criticism which don't help anything at all? Do you have to be a chef to say that a meal taste bad? No right? That's the point @Sapewloth is trying to make. |
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roppuri said: yes, absolutely. The classic "oh you think it's bad? i'd like to see you do better!" argument is old as dirt... but it's as lazy and devoid of sense now as it was the first time someone used it. Everyone who consumes entertainment and is over 10 years old is aware that it takes varying amounts of time, dedication and skill they themselves don't necessarily have to produce original content. That alone doesn't and shouldn't in any way represent a valid line of defense against criticism of said content.Sapewloth said: we're in 2016 and people still make this argument to silence any kind of criticism why? Err is there something wrong with what im saying? |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
roppuri said: Err i kinda surprised to see a lot of comments here, so arrogant... you say like you can actually make better than this, can you even draw or make an anime? at least appreciate Porter, A-1 & co. Overall i enjoyed this, love everything expecially the music congrats to Porter! 8/10 I don't say I can make better because I don't live in Japan, don't have a fuckton of money in animation equipment nor a steady hand to even draw chinese cartoons, but honestly this music video is mediocre (just Porter promoting his new brostep single) yet people wet themselves like it's the second coming of Jesus. This is all hype over nothing. |
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| I liked it. The music's definitely not to my taste but I like how it manages to convey its story through visuals and the direction and animation are pretty great. That being said, there are definitely better music shorts out there like Mudai. |
LoveLikeBloodOct 22, 2016 6:26 AM
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OppaiSugoi said: roppuri said: Err i kinda surprised to see a lot of comments here, so arrogant... you say like you can actually make better than this, can you even draw or make an anime? at least appreciate Porter, A-1 & co. Overall i enjoyed this, love everything expecially the music congrats to Porter! 8/10 I don't say I can make better because I don't live in Japan, don't have a fuckton of money in animation equipment nor a steady hand to even draw chinese cartoons, but honestly this music video is mediocre (just Porter promoting his new brostep single) yet people wet themselves like it's the second coming of Jesus. This is all hype over nothing. people are not hyping over how good this short is, they are hyping over the fact it exists - a very rare collaboration that brings anime to the general consciousness of people who might have a negative, stereotypical image of the medium. |
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BlueDiablos said: When is it going to be aired?? Never, apparently.  |
You all need to watch Nami. |
| alright i finally watched this shit what was the big fucking deal about this again? it was just a bog standard music video, with a cute little anime girl. Nothing about it can be considered anything more than marginally above average. and yet here the fuck we are, 6 pages and one triggerrific review later, people gushing their hearts out writing these massive fucking walls of text, in defense or in attack of this shit ...all for a series with nothing noteworthy beyond a cute little anime girl cause, ya know, I sure as hell don't know where the fuck to find me one 'o those 'round here |
| Was I the only one underwhelmed by this? It was a lot of pretty scenes and breathtaking animation for sure, but in terms of telling a story there was a lot more you could do with 6 minutes. I feel like I would have appreciated this more if it was a trailer for an upcoming anime. That said, it was definitely worth watching considering it only took 6 minutes of my time. It was a cute video. The strength of this short film is the animation and artwork. Madeon maybe if you're into the EDM scene but I just don't vibe with it. 6/10 from me! |
| Best part was seeing that planet next to the dad. Dad deserves more screen time. He looks cool. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
fst said: alright i finally watched this shit what was the big fucking deal about this again? it was just a bog standard music video, with a cute little anime girl. Nothing about it can be considered anything more than marginally above average. and yet here the fuck we are, 6 pages and one triggerrific review later, people gushing their hearts out writing these massive fucking walls of text, in defense or in attack of this shit ...all for a series with nothing noteworthy beyond a cute little anime girl cause, ya know, I sure as hell don't know where the fuck to find me one 'o those 'round here my reply applies here Tiemuuu said: people are not hyping over how good this short is, they are hyping over the fact it exists - a very rare collaboration that brings anime to the general consciousness of people who might have a negative, stereotypical image of the medium. |
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| This was lit asf though I really didn't understand the story it was still beautiful. |
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Tiemuuu said: They are? Because judging from that comment section, the reviews (or more specifically the ridiculous amount of salt that one negative review everyone knows about generated), and the overall ratings it appears the majority of the viewers genuinely found Shelter amazing.Tiemuuu said: people are not hyping over how good this short is, they are hyping over the fact it exists |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
TripleSRank said: For the sort of story this was portraying, I really do think it needed to be fleshed out more to work. It might seem "petty" to you, but it's the whole point to me. The story was too heavily integrated into the music video to simply ignore, and it wasn't developed enough for said integration to pay off. I disagree. The story was presented with enough information to understand what was happening, while leaving enough ambiguity to also be subject to interpretation (to an extent). This gives allows for a more broad set of ideas to be applied and more details to be uncovered through analysis. Generally, works like this are not designed to front everything it has from the first watch, but instead to reward multiple rewatches, with more details to be picked up through each viewing. |
| People who put MAL stats in their sigs are losers lol |
malonur said: I won't go to say empathy is a sign of intelligence, but is there anything wrong with crying? If you cry watching Asuna disappear in SAO there is nothing wrong with that [/s]Unless you think SAO is a good anime[/s] I don't get how there is toxicity of what makes someone cry. Shows how terrible people can be I suppose.Tiemuuu said: this claim is toxic and false. being emotional doesn't make you stupid. empathy is a sign of intelligence. Empathy doesnt mean to cry over every little stupid thing. That is idiocy. Learn the difference. |
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Fred457 said: After watching re zero and this I conclude that I've become a cynical and jaded little faggot who can't produce a tear at the industry's attempts to make people cry anymore Best thing I read here lel |
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Tiemuuu said: my reply applies here Tiemuuu said: people are not hyping over how good this short is, they are hyping over the fact it exists - a very rare collaboration that brings anime to the general consciousness of people who might have a negative, stereotypical image of the medium. So you're telling me that we got 6 pages of circlejerking ... because some white guy that nobody had ever heard of before worked with some anime studio to produce something that wasn't just another ecchi harem shitshow? No, I'm pretty sure people are here because it's polarizing (of all the shit that could have turned out to be polarizing...) and it's polarizing because it tugs at heartstrings in a way that some people willingly and wholeheartedly accept, and other people see as simply and blatantly commercial, with the people who simply have no hearts sitting on the sidelines fanning the shit out of those flames. And also cause that one guy wrote a triggerific review on it. |
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| The animation was 10/10 but the music ruined everything for me , story was so so . Overall I gave 4/10 for visuals - v - b |
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| i love the animation but i feel like if they tried to make a full season-length anime of this, it could go one of two ways: 1) adapt the story from the short or 2) adapt what happens after...either way this left me wanting more |
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| Music doesn't really go super well with the content. Story is extremely bland "feel-bait". It's just a slightly different take on dozens of other stories from anime of the last 10-20 years. The only thing special about is that white people were involved. |
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| Wtf did I just watch? A 6 min intro of what? The joke is everyone says about the animation..well if you make a 6 min work ofc the budget is so low to make a decent animation..ffs 1 is way too much to offer |
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| Man, all these pro writers and anime critics here who are way better at creating a cohesive and understandable 6-min story than the folks that worked on Shelter. You're all so right, this was super bland and terrible. Just awful. Not like the pacing and animation was good, I mean clearly it's feel-bait right? Because you can totally make something that gets you to feel something in 6 min in a million better ways. Wait... I've never really seen something else that does that. But fuck it! I could make something better in my sleep! And my objective opinion that EDM is bland is totally right, because music is not subjective! Only trash enjoys listening to TRASH! Sorry, just wanted to be cool like everyone else and contribute to the needless negativity on an excellent piece of work ^_^ |
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| I don't see what's so great about it. Sure, the visuals were nice and colorful but story/plot wise? Pretty girl living her life in some fancy reality simulator but all alone, now let's all feel sorry for her? It's like these old shows where they hold out a card for the audience to laugh, or in this case, cry. Hasn't this been done multiple times already? Felt like wasted 6 minutes to me. |
shiroyumeOct 23, 2016 10:28 AM
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| There are several songs, music videos and shorts/one-shot stories that made me cry in a few minutes, so I don't think "it's just 6 minutes" is an excuse. That's enough time to show a decent story. The song and the animation were decent, I guess... |
| 7/10 +2 bonus for pure enjoyment and other personal reasons which I'm not inclined to state here. So that's 9/10 The music was very catchy and artwork was absolutely gorgeous. The world-creation-via-tablet was a brilliant touch. The story was sad but kinda....lacking in some crucial details. Like how her dad was the only one who was able to build that ship he sent her off on. Why did no one else do the same? Is she ever going to wake up? What's going to happen to her from now on? But those questions aren't really important. The most important question is: Is she gonna crash-land on some alien planet in another solar system and gain super powers or something? |
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