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Oct 12, 2016 9:29 PM

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HER EGAO IS GONE - kumiko oumae

Poor Reina

Oct 12, 2016 9:48 PM

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Neromon said:
Yup, even the infamous "pool episode" is entirely dedicated to providing insight to the characters. Zero wasted time, didn't even show them swimming and didn't frame their outfits as fanservice. I love this show.


This this this this ^^^^^^
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Neromon said:
Yup, even the infamous "pool episode" is entirely dedicated to providing insight to the characters. Zero wasted time, didn't even show them swimming and didn't frame their outfits as fanservice. I love this show.


This this this this ^^^^^^


But Hazuki swam. And we got a full body 101 of Reina. :P
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It's episode 2 and it's already a pool episode. But it's Hibike, so we should expect nothing less than what we got.
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dang! pool scene, gorgeous girls in swimsuit specially Reina and Asuka, omg my eyes O_O

Anyway good episode, got more backstory about the issue from Nozomi and Natsuki. Satami and Taki-sensei conversation made Reina jealous. That Reina dead eyes was hilarious indeed. I like the conversation between Reina and Kumiko, it was sweet and cute.

Seems like next episode will be intense, Kumiko gonna ask Asuka about Nozomi's joining back to the club, looking forward to it.
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In this point, i only can say one thing:

Oct 13, 2016 12:10 AM

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Enough joking around... no, not really.

I would love to point out the role reversal during that cute bit between Kumiko and Reina close towards the end of this episode. The whole thing was actually handled remarkably which showed how the two girls have started to show changes in their personalities. Amazingly, Kumiko mentions how Reina seemed to her more adult-like compared to herself in that segment.

Unlike what we were shown so far, it was the first time Reina actually acted like a child while Kumiko took the role of an adult, a complete reversal of their roles in episode 8 of season 1. Sometimes acting a bit childish is part of being an adult (Reina); while at the same time, realizing the differences that make an adult are also necessary to step into adulthood (Kumiko). Takeda did an amazing job and KyoAni captured it magnificently. Not to mention Kumiko and Reina's voice-actresses nailed it.

Just thought that I should put my thoughts into words of appreciation of how amazing this anime is. I have already watched the particular segment 10 times and the more I see it, the more I am impressed.
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[...]What was up with the lilies when Yoroizuka was recalling the promise lol [...]
In the scenes when Kumiko talks with Yoroizuka towards the end of the episode? Are you sure that's what they are? The flashback shows cherry blossoms and it looks like the scenes in the present were framed with shots of something like Mirabilis bushes (Japanese オシロイバナ Oshiroibana).

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velego said:


I'm pretty sure it's classical music and I know I've heard it recently somewhere else...

Oh man, that music cause me feels... I hope that someone recognize the name.
I found it in other thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmfTqVqngO8

... a link for a flute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBkTFDC8v-g
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Oct 13, 2016 6:24 AM

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Reina and Asuka in their swimsuits. Thank you, KyoAni.
Oct 13, 2016 6:25 AM

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VersoSciolto said:
In the scenes when Kumiko talks with Yoroizuka towards the end of the episode? Are you sure that's what they are? The flashback shows cherry blossoms and it looks like the scenes in the present were framed with shots of something like Mirabilis bushes (Japanese オシロイバナ Oshiroibana).



Yeah, that's the scene I was talking about. Thanks for correcting me.

Still, wonder what's the point of showing the flowers. Guess that'll be explained later

Oct 13, 2016 6:33 AM

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Hahaha... Best part
Agreed. I died when this happened because that sealed the deal that Reina is very hetero and wants to be with Taki-san. Oh jealously reared it's ugly head. LOL It was like a little piece of her just died when she saw how well Niiyama-san and Taki-senpai got along.
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

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Reina got D-stroyed fuuark
Oct 13, 2016 7:10 AM

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Great eps!! I think it's already better than first season
Kumiko and reina in swimsuits. Asuka senpai is beautiful as always
Natsuki t-shirt make me laugh so hard. "Cement Addiction" hahaha.
And then we have camp arc in the second half. Kumiko is hillarious as always. I love her hair at night when she talked to mizore senpai
And the moment when she is talking to reina in bed. My heart is beating so fast

Btw someone beat stark700 to make this discussion thread XD
Reina face at the end though XD. Don't worry reina, you still have Kumiko :)!
5/5 for this eps. The drama is coming next week
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ah that was such a cute episode! i loved every bit of it <3 really looking forward to the next episode ^^
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Can I ask what that song was called which kumiko was listening to then oboe girl called her to stop because she hates the song
Oct 13, 2016 7:54 AM

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Can I ask what that song was called which kumiko was listening to then oboe girl called her to stop because she hates the song


Borodin - Prince Igor, Polovtsian Dances. It's not a song but a musical piece. The link to the piece is also mentioned in one of the posts above.

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Btw someone beat them to make this discussion thread


Who doesn't even know any Japanese but watch it raw anyways you mean. :)
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Happy that after so many centimeters of skin, you walk quickly to serious matters with a calm narrative but full of respect both ideological and cultural. They are a pleasure to the sets and designs, always excellent and well animated. Who knows if we will have other new entry in the future.

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Hahaha... Best part


I agree! XD
Oct 13, 2016 9:21 AM

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It makes a nice change to see some proper plot development progression being made at a swimming pool of all places. The only swimming scene at all was from Hazuki on her own. Still, seeing the girls in their bikinis was worth it, with Reina being my top choice out of all of them. =)

Speaking of Reina, I couldn't help but laugh at her 'Dead-Fish' expression when Taki and Niyama were seemingly flirting in front of them all. XD

Kumiko was a little unfortunate to be playing the musical piece that Mizore, Nozomi and her band played back in the middle school competition though. She's still not happy about the judge's final decision of their performance back then and I can't blame her, but since she was in a competition where winning was their ultimate goal, regardless of whoever is judging their performance, there will be winners and losers. That goes for almost all serious competition out there in music, sport and so on.

Asuka, despite her stunning beauty and playful attitude, is keeping something locked inside of her that's probably preventing Nozomi from getting her approval to rejoin the club. Within time and from the inevitable pestering from Kumiko, Natsuki and Nozomi, I'm sure Asuka will open up to them with honesty and maybe things will go smoother for all of them.

Overall, I really like this episode and I'm already enjoying Season 2 more than the whole of Season 1. Splendid job so far KyoAni! ^_^
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shanimebib said:
Enough joking around... no, not really.

I would love to point out the role reversal during that cute bit between Kumiko and Reina close towards the end of this episode. The whole thing was actually handled remarkably which showed how the two girls have started to show changes in their personalities. Amazingly, Kumiko mentions how Reina seemed to her more adult-like compared to herself in that segment.

Unlike what we were shown so far, it was the first time Reina actually acted like a child while Kumiko took the role of an adult, a complete reversal of their roles in episode 8 of season 1. Sometimes acting a bit childish is part of being an adult (Reina); while at the same time, realizing the differences that make an adult are also necessary to step into adulthood (Kumiko). Takeda did an amazing job and KyoAni captured it magnificently. Not to mention Kumiko and Reina's voice-actresses nailed it.


That was for me also a surprise that Kumiko put Reina on a pedestal. Kumiko is so much mature than at the beginning of the first season. If we forget her breast-complex, her personnality had a big development since the start :

want to quit music, didn't care-- > want to quit euphonium -- > play euphonium (no willpower against asuka) -- > got motivated to be the best and special -- > got motivated to win competition -- > became curious about people around her (second season) -- > try to understand them -- > take responsability and take action in order to eventually change things (she is eventually ready to challenge asuka's decision)...

what a long way! If Kumiko keeps on with this development, she will surely end up being the president of the brass band in third year (or maybe already in second year?) :)

Love also this moment and the way they moved toward eachother, totally cute. Thanks shanimebib for the image.



I agree with many here, despite the fan service, there was no stupid joke involved and we got interesting talks with people who just happened to be in swimsuits.


And I love Natsuki senpai as a character. She shines in many ways. She is beautiful "inside".
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That Semen Addiction t-shirt though.
Oct 13, 2016 12:24 PM

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Bewbs, bewbs everywhere. :D

Good episode. :)
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Oct 13, 2016 2:42 PM

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Eh hopefully the taki-sensei subplot will be over fast....
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Great episode. I like when fanservice makes sense, such as being at a pool in bathing attire, as opposed to tripping on a step and a skirt riding up goofiness.

I hope Kumiko can convince Asuka to let Nozomi return to the club. I'm fairly sure she'll return, but this show can throw a curve so we'll have to wait and see.
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Kousaka reina is the savior of this episode/show.

I actually feel bad for Nozomi, she had a hard time last year and asuka senpai wouldnt let her join now.
Nozomi is something huh.. to be stopped from quitting by the great asuka senpai is really something.

Many people are hating on asuka senpai but Im still on her and reina's side for now.
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Reina and Asuka look super fine in swimsuits! <3
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shanimebib said:
Mich666 said:
wonder why she really hates that specific song of hers.
It's the piece they played in their final year in middle school and won silver. Obviously she believed she and her school did enough but the judges thought otherwise. It left a scar on her that makes her hate competitions. She is only into it because of her promise with Nozomi that they would win it once they are in high school.

Well, that's kinda obvious. Or.. rather not as Mizore was kinda still ok when they were returning back on the back and even promised to play it again. I think that failed concert alone simply couldn't be the reason, the reason is probably what happened in their previous year when their friendship was shattered. We have a gist of it but we still don't know what exactly happened to them.
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any one know the song at the 17:43 of this ep?
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quite possibly the godliest face made this year.

Also really enjoyed the futon scene
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Still, wonder what's the point of showing the flowers. Guess that'll be explained later
The simplest explanation would be that they grow there, at the location, they're not that uncommon... but I'm also more inclined to wonder with you that there was a point behind showing them repeatedly, not just in the background but in several close-ups as well. Don't have much to offer. Nothing definitive.

Assuming they are indeed mirabilis bushes... when we checked hanakotoba sites, the Japanese language of flowers, we encountered three meanings consistently:
「臆病」「内気」「恋を疑う」
"shy" "timid" "to be doubtful, suspicious or distrustful of the love" are the literal translations of the words. I was told that this last symbolic interpretation may have something to do with the changeable nature of the colours of the flowers, though all flowers shown on the bushes in those scenes in this episode are white.

These fragrant flowers open late in the afternoon and bloom through the night until early morning. Their inclusion in this episode can perhaps be seen as a reference to the hymn of the Polovtsian maidens from the second act of Borodin's opera which Yoroizuka so dislikes...

Then there is their association with the white facial powder / make up to consider.

I think flower symbolism is very rarely explicitly explained in anime though flowers are often incorporated and it is very rare to find someone with genuine knowledge of the subject posting on these topics ... it is fun to speculate.
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i'm losing interest with this anime. What happened to shuichi's airtime? midori and katou became background characters. what's up with those yuri moments? geez, i kept skipping scenes trying to find a good part. the new characters are kinda annoying too. what a letdown.
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This is something I realized just now, but part of why I like Hibiike so much is not only realistic characters but Kumiko's monologues as well. Really adds to the depth and give the story sort of an oomph.

And while I wasn't a big fan of Asuka in S1 but I'm liking her more now as this season is going to revolve around her (judging from the last pic of the OP. if not, she is at least getting a good-length arc for sure) we are getting more character insight.

Ahh I love Hibike. It got drama right on mark. Riina was really cute there with her "Taki radar" I love these two's bond as much as always, the futon scene was too cute

For once, we have pool episode done right. Instead of stupid fanservice, we got stuff which adds to the plot. I just saw Musaigen's OVA (and it was a beach episode) so I noticed how different the mood was despite it being the same studio and the same quality animation. Honestly, good direction can really change a work and do the hardwork done in the art some justice.

I love the choreography of the ED song, the song is good too.
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TragicRomance said:
This is something I realized just now, but part of why I like Hibiike so much is not only realistic characters but Kumiko's monologues as well. Really adds to the depth and give the story sort of an oomph.


The monologues also serve a different purpose (mum's the word).

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For once, we have pool episode done right. Instead of stupid fanservice, we got stuff which adds to the plot. I just saw Musaigen's OVA (and it was a beach episode) so I noticed how different the mood was despite it being the same studio and the same quality animation. Honestly, good direction can really change a work and do the hardwork done in the art some justice.


Seriously, it still baffles me that both Hibike! Euphonium and Musaigen no Phantom World are both directed by Ishihara Tatsuya. While I have loved everything he has ever worked on, the blame is entirely on Ishihara and KyotoAnimation on Musaigen's failure. It is their first adaptation that just assumed characters and concept from an original story (novel, VN, LN, manga) but completely and utterly derailed from the story itself. Musaigen no Phantom World, if adapted properly, would have been KyotoAnimation's darkest adaptation yet (queue in Kyoukai no Kanata, FMP TSR or the joint adaptation of InuYasha movies with Sunrise Inc. which pale in comparison when it comes to Musaigen's dark story).

@VersoSciolto: great look up! :)

@Mich666: Let's wait to see what actually happened, shall we? ;)
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shanimebib said:
TragicRomance said:
This is something I realized just now, but part of why I like Hibiike so much is not only realistic characters but Kumiko's monologues as well. Really adds to the depth and give the story sort of an oomph.


The monologues also serve a different purpose (mum's the word).

TragicRomance said:
For once, we have pool episode done right. Instead of stupid fanservice, we got stuff which adds to the plot. I just saw Musaigen's OVA (and it was a beach episode) so I noticed how different the mood was despite it being the same studio and the same quality animation. Honestly, good direction can really change a work and do the hardwork done in the art some justice.


Seriously, it still baffles me that both Hibike! Euphonium and Musaigen no Phantom World are both directed by Ishihara Tatsuya. While I have loved everything he has ever worked on, the blame is entirely on Ishihara and KyotoAnimation on Musaigen's failure. It is their first adaptation that just assumed characters and concept from an original story (novel, VN, LN, manga) but completely and utterly derailed from the story itself. Musaigen no Phantom World, if adapted properly, would have been KyotoAnimation's darkest adaptation yet (queue in Kyoukai no Kanata, FMP TSR or the joint adaptation of InuYasha movies with Sunrise Inc. which pale in comparison when it comes to Musaigen's dark story).

Hmm what purpose might that be I wonder. Hinting Kumiko's development?

Yea, I heard that they adapted all the lighthearted moments (with some original moments as well?) and didn't get into the dark stuff at all. Its disappointing. I only like Mai, rest are pretty much forgettable. It's surprising how the same guy can direct one anime perfectly and not the other. I wonder why he didn't take the risk of doing the dark stuff. Is that even good kind of advertisment? I mean the fans who would like the anime, would expect the story to remain the same and read the novel, only to be potentially turned off by the plot twist. It's much better to insert dark stuff in the actual anime itself to earn fans who would "stick" with the novel. No doubt it kinda lost its appeal by the mid of it (until ep 11 or something)
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Music with the violin? at the end was beautiful.

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Also, Shuuichi appears in this episode as Mr. Literally-sent-to-the-background.



LOL, it is still behind Kumiko :)
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Said it last week and she appears almost immediately a week afterwards. Niiyama is gorgeous. Reina's dead-fish reaction was beautiful, as was the pool segment. Not only did we get to see a whole plethora of eye-candy, but we also had some additional reveals to the plot.
Especially loved how they managed to continue that little joke of refreshing Kumiko's belief that her chest will grow once they get into high school (ala season 1 body check episode) after looking at Reina's figure. Love how a lot of the little stuff from both seasons manage to tie together.

Want to see what the big rift that split up Nozomi and Mizore was. I get the feeling it has something to do with Nozomi not telling Mizore to leave the band with her (so basically a big misunderstanding of each other's true intentions of their actions), but the fact that Mizore looked spooked in episode 1 when hearing her name may indicate otherwise....

Asuka without glasses is a perfect 10x10x10, but Midori is still my fav. I'm surprised she didn't bring Kohaku to play in the pool though, it would have been the perfect opportunity to showcase her.

Just one question for those in the know, who was that fourth girl waiting for Kumiko at the pool area? I'm talking about the one playing Janken with Hazuki. Feel like I've never seen her before?
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Yup, i wouldn't really want a girlfriend, that looks like she could slit my throat if i told her i have any friends that are girls :)
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this episode was great! I'm really feeling these characters again.

I really love how KyoAni always brings more realism to their work. in the pool scenes all the girls have great bodies, but they are not *unrealistic* - the proportions between hips, stomach and thighs are not blown out like so often in many anime.

I really can't get enough Kumiko. It really doesn't matter which character we are focusing on as long as its through her lens. the 2nd to last scene with her and Reina was pretty.
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This season is gonna give us all the basic school anime stuff we couldn't get in the first season. I know it. It's only been two episodes, and we've already gotten both a festival and a pool episode. But whatever, it's Hibiki Euphonium drama and greatness that I look forward too. Poor Reina with her dead fish eyes just witnessed her male love interacting with someone old enough for him to be with, but at least she still has her female love.
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Well done!!

This is so good! I enjoyed it from the beginning to the end. Now I understand what I was watching that poor Reina face all over MAL ^^".

5/5
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I was afraid of second episode being a pool-fanservice one, but it was a lot better than I expected! We got Nozomi's part of story, next one is Asuka's, and that's pretty much all I need right now, sweet. I've already started caring for this whole drama, and it just started one week ago!

Also, these dead eyes of poor Reina, loved it >:D
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-Yeah, after listening to it a bunch, I actually like the new OP a lot
-Sidetail Kumiko looks different
-I can't seem to remember what the flashback at the end of the Kumiko and Nozomi scene at the pool was in reference to
-The whole pool scene was far more substantial than I thought it would be
-The cut to Green sapphire after Niiyama sensei's introduction immediately reminded me of https://twitter.com/i_akari_daisuki
-Interesting symbolism behind those beetles
-After hearing more of the backstory behind the incident that happened the previous year (with the Kumiko and Natsuki camp scene), I still don't dislike any of the characters that have names. Everyone's just trying to do the best they can in the given circumstances, and it's really hard to hate on them for that.
-The scene with Kumiko and Mizore was pretty interesting since it revealed everything related to Mizore's inner conflict solely through flashbacks
-Reina's wiggle toward Kumiko was fucking adorable


Even while reading through the thread, no one seemed to mention where the flashback to season 1 during the first episode came from.

Like some other people already posted, having a pool episode (or at least half of a pool episode) that had a focus on Nozomi's character development. The episode as a whole was pretty much focused on characters, with a split between the new characters (Nozomi and Mizore) and the old ones (like Natsuki and Asuka), so the entire episode was dedicated to my second favorite thing about the show. It's pretty hard for me to outright dislike any of them so far because of the way the backstories are presented. Also, just like the first episode, my absolute favorite scene in the episode was the one with Kumiko and Mizore on the first night of band camp. They revealed Mizore's inner conflict through flashbacks of events that have already had some exposition in the show, but they didn't outright say it. From the flashbacks, it seems like the expectations of her promise to Nozomi were way too high for the reality of getting gold at the first competition, probably because Mizore expected Nozomi to be there with her.

This season continues to incorporate the best elements from the first season within it, while in general staying away from overly empty, artsy shots or redundant progression.
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[...] Just one question for those in the know, who was that fourth girl waiting for Kumiko at the pool area? I'm talking about the one playing Janken with Hazuki. Feel like I've never seen her before?
Looks like Tomoe Kabe, to me. The trumpet playing friend of Natsuki and Yuko. She appears in several scenes but is perhaps most prominently visible in their company at the festival...
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Forgot to include that Oshiroibana is a seasonal word, associated with autumn. Sakura is associated with spring.

I know you prefer not to provide details from the novels and merely mention them cryptically but I'm curious -and perhaps you can answer in a general way- if Takeda used flowers in her novels at all?

Perhaps you can also answer in general if she explains the contents or background stories of certain musical pieces she selected? So far we know that certain pieces impact certain characters because of their personal association or identification with a particular performance of a particular work but I'm curious if the themes in the music itself played any role in their selection. We know that Taki asked Asuka to explain at least one piece, Crescent Moon Dance, which she then danced and briefly described, to enhance the band's interpretation through their understanding of the emotions the composer wanted to convey. Are there instances like that in the novels? Does she touch on the thematic elements of the compositions? Are the performed musical pieces the same?

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Forgot to include that Oshiroibana is a seasonal word, associated with autumn. Sakura is associated with spring.

I know you prefer not to provide details from the novels and merely mention them cryptically but I'm curious -and perhaps you can answer in a general way- if Takeda used flowers in her novels at all?

Perhaps you can also answer in general if she explains the contents or background stories of certain musical pieces she selected? So far we know that certain pieces impact certain characters because of their personal association or identification with a particular performance of a particular work but I'm curious if the themes in the music itself played any role in their selection. We know that Taki asked Asuka to explain at least one piece, Crescent Moon Dance, which she then danced and briefly described, to enhance the band's interpretation through their understanding of the emotions the composer wanted to convey. Are there instances like that in the novels? Does she touch on the thematic elements of the compositions? Are the performed musical pieces the same?







Also, you have mentioned Asuka.





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Looks like Reina has a little competition against Satomi.
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Well Reina really stepped up this season on expressing her love for Taki-sensei. In season 1 it wasn't really apparent despite her admitting that she likes him.
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@shanimebib

Can you spoil me on Musaigens dark story?

I wasn't planning on reading the novels anyway.
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So we got our se-se-se-se-service episode, not exactly what I want from this, but Kyoto do them well enough

Fuck off Asuka, she's annoying now

Mizore's scene was very good.
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Can you spoil me on Musaigens dark story?


Out of topic: Contains Major Spoilers.



Coming back to Hibike! Euphonium: I love it! And here is beautiful Niiyama Satomi-sensei to change the mood!



And my Kumiko and Reina ❤:

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