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| the flashback of kakeru's suicide was pretty sad man : ( |
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| Watching the beginning of the episode from Kakeru's POV and reading the last message his mom drafted that pushed him over the edge had me bawling. I understand how he felt and my heart hurts that there was a world that he died in. I really hope Naho can reach him this time. I know he's being an ass but he's doing that on purpose, trying to distance himself so that he doesn't hurt people anymore and so that they forget him if he kills himself. As for everyone not understanding depression and wanting Kakeru to die, go fuck a cactus. Who cares who Naho ends up with!? I just want the kid to live. |
| This was a great adaptation of my favorite chapter from the manga. Kakeru's point of view and his depression leading to suicide is very realistic and coming from someone that is suffering from depression as well isn't far fetched whatsoever. The people bitching about his actions obviously don't understand what depression does to the mind. |
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| Heartbreaking episode it was nice to see Kakeru's pov. The black hole thing is the worst part of the story but I mean it's an anime, there's stupid explanations for things all the time so. And wow I didn't know so many people hated Naho. |
| Kakeru really needs to die. He's just an asshole. I hope the plot twist is that his fate can't be changed and he's destined to die no matter what. The only thing they can change is the circumstances of his death. Rather than him killing himself from depression, he dies from an accident or sickness but with no regrets or depression. Also...I was glad they explained the time travel with the letters, but the whole dropping them into a "black hole" in the ocean is kind of bullshit. Find it hard to believe they all traveled to the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and dropped their letters into the Bermuda Triangle with the hope that it would work. I would've preferred a little more fictional/supernatural method that was just more convenient and feasible. |
| Even with Kakeru's POV, some people still don't understand him, and that's just the way it is. Sometimes you really can't empathize with someone unless you've at least been in a similar situation. There are some who are sympathizing when finally hearing his thoughts, but they're only half way there. I'm not saying Kakeru's actions aren't rude or whatever other negative words people describe him as, but honestly it just doesn't work to use such words to describe him because of the state of mind he's in. The fact of the matter is, he's not normal, he doesn't bounce back like normal people do. He's trapped in his own mind thinking he's worthless, and he feels guilt not only for his mother's death, but for whenever he lashes out on people. And yeah, from an outsider's perspective, Kakeru is not such a great person, but we probably have friends that annoy us once in awhile too. Viewers should be reminded that it doesn't matter what kind of person Kakeru is, the people around him, the five people who befriended him on his first day of transferring schools, care about him. That's why this show exists, because there are people who want to save him, people who will have regrets in the future if they don't save end up saving him. The few who commented that Kakeru should just die, I have to say, this show must've been a great waste of time. It's fine if some can't fully understand how it feels like to be depressed and/or not often having thoughts about how living is painful, but I hope people can try to at least understand or put themselves in the shoes of the group of friends, why they want to save their friend. Not pointing any fingers btw, just saying in general after observing comments from both the series' manga and anime sub-forum. ------------------------------- I finished reading the manga a week or two ago, and Kakeru's POV still had me crying endlessly. His thoughts are so relatable that it does hurt to see it again. No it's not like he's had the worst childhood or backstory as other characters or real life people have had, but not everyone has the same mental strength to cope with whatever experiences they've had. Imo, I think orange does a great job of portraying a person with depression, although it's not something every viewer may realize or recognize. It was also sad seeing the group of five in the future, Kakeru's death had a lot of impact on the friendship of the group. They're still friends of course, but it was never the same. And the regret they felt after learning about what Kakeru had gotten through and them not knowing despite being Kakeru's friends, it's definitely understandable why they felt so strongly and hopeful for any possibility of saving Kakeru, even if they can't change anything in their own timeline. It's honestly also probably a way for them to cope and feel better, given that there's no way they'd know if 1) the letters actually time traveled 2) their past selves in a parallel world received the letters 3) if their past selves were able to save Kakeru. I agree with scoffing at the Bermuda Triangle explanation for the time travel letters, but eh, the story is so much more than that. |
| The thing I appreciated the most in the episode is propably the fact that there wasn't the op...it wouldn't fit at all so they didnt put it |
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| It was the most emotional episode yet for me ;_; The whole first half from Kakeru's POV was nice. At least we got an insight to his thought process. The segment where he read his mother's text was emotional... All thanks to the music. |
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| Kakeru's mom were not so bad, they never talked so they never know how each other felt. Naho is trying hard to save Kakeru, I feel sad that Suwa is letting his own happiness aside... |
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| One of my favorites eps. I understand u, Kakeru. But with my father... 5/5 NEXT EP 1H SPECIAL! YEAH! |
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| 1h finale episode? Wow! I'm glad I put the anime on hold after the first episodd and read the manga in one go. Now I am waiting impatiently for the last episode to air. Looking forward to a nice binge watch session with lots of feels. I have my tissues ready! Lel |
| a whole episode from the POV of Takeru |
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| I wouldn't get my hope up guys, from what I understand it'll be a regular episode + seiyuu talk or something like that. 1-Hour Special will feature the 13th and final anime episode itself, followed by a talk program segment starring the six main cast members. According to ANN. |
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| God Kakeru's mail to his mom really was rude, he used very strong wording "jyama sun na yo!/don't disturb me!" I can see why he regrets it so much. Tho ye his mom was not completely right either, throwing away his shows and bag like that. Sure, she must have been suffering from some anxiety herself, but I can see why Kakeru thought she was annoying. Hagita wearing Azu's skirt. lmao. This guy is so chill. Kakeru in that alternative timeline. Man, this episode was adapted well. Okay, this makes me appreciate that everyone is working hard to save Kakeru in the new timeline (despite their efforts being clumsy. tho it being clumsy makes sense) So Kakeru's mom was always thinking about him but didn't communicate enough... I'm saying this now, but I really like Naho's handwriting. Dat engrish made my day "What do humans enjoy about dogs?" lmao The animation and art this episode was pretty great. Hagita's thinking is right. It couldn't be helped, in short. How the hell did they send the letters anyway? Through a ship? Did they travel as nearby to Bermuda triangle as they could to throw away the letters? What. For all we know, the current timeline might just be Naho's delusions and not really happening. That would make for a more messed up ending. |
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| oh god no no no no no no no T.T I actually already read the manga long ago before the announce it'll become an anime, since the beginning it was 10/10 story for me, but now I dont remember much about the ending, I hope they get to save precious bby Kakeru |
anhkiet1903 said: maggiejay said: actuallyyyy, its going right on pace, dont worry :DSo teary and taken by the emotion of the first half.. then the rest was a head scratcher. Black hole. Bermuda Triangle. Let's a go. I've got a bag feeling the final episode will feel a tad rushed :( Oh good! I found out just moments ago that the last episode will be an hour long special? Looking forward to it. |
| I swear. Kakeru is such an ass. |
maggiejay said: uhm I read the manga already and there are not alot of material left to cover. But 1 hour long could be a possibility and would be awesome :Danhkiet1903 said: actuallyyyy, its going right on pace, dont worry :D Oh good! I found out just moments ago that the last episode will be an hour long special? Looking forward to it. |
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| Still a good episode even though if felt disturbingly like a clip show for the majority of it. The draft text message was the clincher and I suppose it does tie things together seeing their black hole plan. Really want to slap Kakeru and Naho though. |
| this anime sucks i've read parts of manga before but never finished it is this faithful to the manga? kakeru is such a whiny piss ant even when everyone around him cares for him naho is stupid kakeru is stupid they should just kill themselves together |
| You know, I found the episode to be adequate. I found Mirai Kakeru segment to be sad, heartbreaking and all, but I found the rest of the episode to be... not what I wanted. I wanted this series to be some sort of magical realism, as "we send the letters through time, don't worry about it". Giving an explanation for the magic just kills the series for me to a certain extent. "Oh, it was a black hole somewhere in the world, and we guys send the letters through there". That just raises more questions! Way to kill a series magical premise. |
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Raito_Lawliet said: Illyricus said: Did they really used a fucking blackhole to send the letters? Did they really throw the letters randomly to the sea hoping they would be transported to the past? Dafuck? I wanted to know how they sent the letters to the past. Now I only want to forget it. and this shows rating just crashed and burned over the Bermuda Triangle XD XD XD Somethings are just better left unsaid lol. Put this episode off cause haven't enjoyed this show as much as the beginning. I'll give the studio credit the animation was much better in this episode than the last few. I get Kakru's perspective but really your still being an ass to Naho come on man...... |
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| the first half of the episode was so unexpectedly beautiful. I'd always been sure that Kakeru's mom was a manipulative insane person but the flashback revealed the truth.. uh oh. and I began to understand Kakeru's feelings. the Bermuda Triangle theory seemed silly but this whole letters thing is something like a metaphor to me so I don't have a problem with that. looking forward to seeing what happens in the last ep |
| A black hole. In the ocean. Are you even trying? Kakeru is such a dick, I hope he dies in this timeline as well. |
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| A black hole. The author seriously tries to explain away the time-traveling letters with a 'black hole on earth' theory?! Lame -_- ummyeah said: I feel like some explanation for how they sent back the letters is better than no explanation. I'm the exact opposite. If the explanation is too dubious/implausible, it kinda takes away from my enjoyment of the story as a whole. I would have preferred it if it was left a mystery. Or maybe add a little bit of fantasy element to it without trying to explain too much. |
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| Despite not liking Naho, it's still hard watching her and Kakeru so far apart.. Also finding that message his mother didn't send was sad ;-; |
maggiejay said: Ah, I see someone else is watching Amanchu here :3Black hole. Bermuda Triangle. Let's a go. |
| No seriously. |
| This was important episode for the insight into Kakeru and for seeing what happened and how. |
| This anime is getting ridiculous. So unrealistic. The author is really forcing the depression bits in the present timeline. |
fluffy_maus said: Writer's 101: If you cannot come up with a satisfactory explanation for a plot device... just fucking leave it alone! Or attribute it to mahou. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, for a moment I thought that after reading his mom's final message, he realized how dumb a suicide would be, that he wanted to cycle to Naho and apologize... and that the crash was an accident after all - which would've been a hilarious twist. I had the same thought. But, watching the episode again, it wasn't so clear to me if he did intentionally or if it was just accident. To behonest, it looked more like an accident, and it also makes sense. He sees that his mom did indeed wrote him back, and then he wants to apologize to Naho, but crashes with a car. Are you really sure it is intentional? |
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rumbleanime said: fluffy_maus said: Writer's 101: If you cannot come up with a satisfactory explanation for a plot device... just fucking leave it alone! Or attribute it to mahou. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, for a moment I thought that after reading his mom's final message, he realized how dumb a suicide would be, that he wanted to cycle to Naho and apologize... and that the crash was an accident after all - which would've been a hilarious twist. I had the same thought. But, watching the episode again, it wasn't so clear to me if he did intentionally or if it was just accident. To behonest, it looked more like an accident, and it also makes sense. He sees that his mom did indeed wrote him back, and then he wants to apologize to Naho, but crashes with a car. Are you really sure it is intentional? That's what I thought too at first, but his words sounded like he was suiciding after all. |
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| It is pretty surprising that the anime doesn't feel rushed. When I first heard that it's going to be only 13 eps long I was pretty disappointed, but it looks like it's going to end well. Loved Kakeru's point of view, from the other timeline (Or whatever it was), you could feel the difference. The art is still cringe-worthy at times, I just hope that they saved their best for last :) |
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bananyaishope said: [quote=bananyaishope]maggiejay said: Ah, I see someone else is watching Amanchu here :3Black hole. Bermuda Triangle. Let's a go. Hehee you got me ;) |
| The thing I don't get is..even if the letters were sent back in the past and the group manages to save kakeru..change the future and prevent his tragedy faith..even if this happens it still won't affect their world right?...I mean the only way I can imagine it is like even if the letters traveled..they obviously traveled in a parallel world..which is related with the world that they 10 year future selves live..but even if they do this..it still kakeru won't come randomly one day when they wake up right?,..kakeru will be saved..but he will exist in the parallel world..which they can't get into..so all this is effortless..kakeru can't be saved..and even if they save him..he can't be with them in the actual world |
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| Oooh man, I've almost cried That was so sad |
XenocrisiSep 25, 2016 5:28 AM
| I would do without this "recap" or summary episode. It's not like everything has to be spoonfeded to viewers for them to understand it.. And everything in this episode was just obvious from previous series, it was not even needed to tell it explicity. Quite contrary, in fact, they ruined the carefully built-up atmosphere with it. Not to mention that if writer wants us to care about Kakeru she should know better not to portray him as a real dick in recent episodes. And their timetravel theory involving blackholes was just a joke, it would be a better if they didn't even talk about it, it's not like it's focus of this series anyway. So for sake of this series, better disregard this episode, and let's hope the final one would make up for it. |
Mich666Sep 25, 2016 3:44 PM
| The first half of this episode was extremely emotional. Totally put me in a very sad and depressed mood after watching. Poor Kakeru. I have a lot empathy for him. I can only imagine how crushed he was after reading those drafts in his mother's phone. After reading such a thing, I probably would have killed myself too. Just a sad situation all around. I wish his mother hadn't killed herself. Anyway, I always knew the Bermuda Triangle was connected to time travel in some way. Nice of Orange to confirm it. |
| I though i was done being emotional with anime.. 5 years later since last time i cryed to any anime.. This fucking episode got me. That phone moment was too hard. :( |
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| So they're really going for the black hole time travel theory he? Well not too shabby, other than that I do hope we get to see it actually in action but at least a small part of that plot got revealed! That said the first part of this episode sure was quite sad to see the whole picture what actually happened! Really wonder what the last episode has to offer and how the upcoming movie will catch it up! |
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| Oh really!? literally sending letters through the Earth's so called "black hole" which is supposedly located at Bermuda Triangles' Ocean...now that might be really open the idea as parallel worlds may do exist! I've never even thought about that idea! 4/5. |
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