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| So Benten was kidnapped by that Tengu when she was a little girl, no wonder she is cold to him now. I wonder if she ever tried to get in contact with her parents. I wonder if it is the same feeling, sometimes when I see a cute animal I wonder how great it would taste prepared in my favorite ways. Naw that old man is just an eccentric. Aw man, I wouldn't eat that tanuki who is having a conversation with me even if I think I am imagining things. |
_liar said: I do not think that a reference to tarot makes a whole lot of sense in an anime that is primarily concerned with Japanese mythology. I would agree if this was an historical anime, but Souichirou Shimogamo lived japan at the end of the 20th century (an probably lived to see the 21st century) so I see no reason why he could not have been influenced by western culture. Furthermore it is not "very clearly laid out" as the OP is full of bad English that should not be taken as canon. Whoa, hold it right there, the OP is not canon? unless you have read the LN and can therefore say the OP contradicts the original source, it is way more canon than the opinion of any fansuber, it is not like it is a common phrase in the english language. "Idiot's blood" is a good translation of what the characters are saying; it's not like they're saying "burado avu za fooru" or something. My point is not that it is not an aceptable translation, my point from the start is that it goes against the english text the animators show (for a reason, at first I thought it was odd to show it so clearly), which is a bit awkward but you can always say "Fool's blood" instead. |
mangamuscleAug 12, 2013 5:07 PM
| The dialogue in this show is absolutely bizarre. |
| I loved the OST for this episode, it was so nice~ Benten crying under that moon. ;_; |
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| "It's a manifestation of my idiot blood!" The reason for doing anything out of the ordinary! This OST has got to be one of my favourites this season. Actually, I'd even go as far as saying this year. Just really, really great stuff. Still no sign of Kaisei but Benten crying was quite an eye-opener. Was it out of remorse for eating Shimogamo? Or just because she misses who she used to be? I wonder if she even thinks about that... such a mysterious character. |
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| Great episode. And there were so many beautiful scenes :) |
mangamuscale said: Whoa, hold it right there, the OP is not canon? unless you have read the LN and can therefore say the OP contradicts the original source, it is way more canon than the opinion of any fansuber, it is not like it is a common phrase in the english language. The OP is full of terrible English as anime OPs sometimes are—"BLooD of FooL" (original capitalization preserved) isn't even grammatically correct. What likely happened is that someone at P.A. Works thought that it would be cool to have some english in the OP and translated some terms to the best of his or her ability. Should we start saying "raccoon dog" instead of "tanuki" too when discussing this show? I have not read the novel(s?) and do not have access to a copy, but I am willing to bet that if you were to look in them you would not find "BLooD of FooL," you would not find "blood of the fool," and you would not find "idiot('s) blood" either. What you would find, however, is "阿呆の血(のしから)" and if it weren't for some bad English that someone threw into the OP, nobody would be complaining about the translation "(it's a manifestation of my) idiot blood." |
| I have grown more and more fond of this series. It is really like reading some Japanese literature. People who call it weird should read more highbrow Japanese literature to see what is really weird. This work keeps a popular touch firmly on the ground while gives really mesmerizing portrayal of the Kyoto scenery, care and attention to character depiction and incisive, sometimes even poetic, insight on life, love, family and of course death. Truly wonderful. |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| Better episode than usual, for the first time I actually found the pacing not entirely wretched and the dialogue to be kind of interesting. It's definitely better when the Tanuki characters are interacting with the other factions as opposed to among themselves. Some of the metaphors the show uses still have me rolling my eyes and I'm really not sure I care for the Tanuki side of the cast much at all at this point, but the whole discussion about the circle of life slowly coming to the forefront of the tale has at least give me something to latch onto from a semi-intellectual perspective instead of just sitting here and having to listen to the character natter about things I feel don't rely serve the story well in terms of maintaining my interest level. Anyway I get the sense that the whole "idiot blood" line was supposed to be a big stand out one, but for me it was about the dumbest lines of dialogue I've heard spouted in this whole show. I'm not sure what that means yet, but it kind of had me rolling my eyes at how pretentious it came across. Mormegil said: The dialogue in this show is absolutely bizarre. I agree, but I'd even go a step further and suggest that just because dialogue is unusual or bizarre doesn't necessarily mean it's especially well written or deep. To be honest I fundamentally disagree with the sentiment being espoused surrounding this show that being uneventful, slow paced, subtle and minimalist is somehow a superior form of storytelling and frankly find it more to be a way of cheaping out by essentially getting the viewer to fill in the blanks with something that is always going to be more interesting in interpretation than anything a writer themselves could offer. It's a trend I really don't like in anime storytelling and see more as a glaring weakness than any sort of strength more often than not, but having said that this show is doing a little better with it than most. People can feel free to take that as a compliment if they want. Anyway I don't know, I'm sort of growing weary of series set in Kyoto that all seem to be like, "Oh this city has so much history, it's so laid back and life is so peaceful and if you go there you can find your true self and purpose" or whatever. I feel like saying, "Okay I've seen this sort of sentiment before in like every slice of life show, show me something different for a change". I guess if you've been there it'd maybe make a difference but for me it's like who damn well cares, you've laid out this story about mythological creatures, bloody well make the most of it and the premise instead of doing the same old things every show set in Kyoto seems to do with their time and this is yet another one that opts not to do so and it's keeping me from finding cause to praise it for anything in particular. Just because a show slow burns the crap out of it's pace doesn't make it a good story for me and just because a show has a line that sounds vaguely catchy like, "It must be a manifestation of my idiot blood" doesn't make it especially deep so I hope the staff isn't banking on that sort of thing from where I'm sitting because if they are it's never rising above the level of mediocre for me. |
PeacingOutAug 14, 2013 12:34 PM
| Really good episode again ^^ |
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| I feel very melancholic when watching this series for some reason. |
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scruffykiwi said: After watching this episode I finally clicked that the Humans (apart from Benten) are unaware that Tanuki are sentinent and can actually talk. The professor seemed to think that Yasaburou's performance was some parlour trick and that Benten could do the same. If that is true then I can see why the Tanuki see Benten with such fear as she is fully aware yet participates in this 'Friday Fellows' Same for me. I guess what's why the professor has such a clear conscience. Even though the talk he had with Yasaborou's father should've stirred some feelings of remorse in him, what with all the talk about having raised his kids as good as he could and stuff like that. With that being said, this show really focuses on the whole "to eat is to love" thing. Kinda disturbing, especially with Benten knowing about the tanuki... Meh, I guess what I'm trying to convey is that I just really don't get this show yet. |
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| I wanna know more about Benten |
scruffykiwi said: After watching this episode I finally clicked that the Humans (apart from Benten) are unaware that Tanuki are sentinent and can actually talk. The professor seemed to think that Yasaburou's performance was some parlour trick and that Benten could do the same. If that is true then I can see why the Tanuki see Benten with such fear as she is fully aware yet participates in this 'Friday Fellows' Yeah. I would say Tanuki should have the opportunity to eat human every once in a while too, but I highly doubt humans in general would be accepting of this. =P |
| きみ は だれ だい？ ぼく は ラムボ！ ぼく は だれ だい？ きみ は ラムボ！ ラムボ なんでし！ |
| out of all the anime that i watch this season, Uchouten Kazoku is probably the only one that i think getting better and better by each episode. and the OST that played during the rooftop scene was so damn good. |
My DeviantArt and Pixiv and still waiting patiently for a 3rd season of Spice & Wolf :'| |
| Benten crying? Now I wanna know. |
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| The series is so depressing, but not as a forced melodramatic sobstory. Uchouten Kazoku does such a wonderful job conveying the depressing reality of life and death, along with the harsh beauty of it. |
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| First episode that blew me away. Leaving behind the overly quirky nature and going all philosophical on me. Featuring some gorgeous surreal shots that made me think of a Murakami novel done in anime. And the writing in this is just stunning. Forcing me not to just the read the words but actually consider their meaning. Unfortunately the sentiments and behavior of the characters don't click me with me. Keeping me from being completely drawn into this lovely fairy tale. Actually the second anime this season (silver spoon) that I really want to love but can't because the characters clash with my own. My loss. |
| That ending was pretty lovely, really liking the setting while it is a rather sad story it sure manages to make it good! |
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| Oh, Suzuki Satomi was Benten's girl name :) So Benten be a person like that is Akadama-sensei's fault Aw, Yasaburou's father is so... how do I explain this.. calm & composed? Kaisei, the stalker & tsundere girl xD Bentei-sama, don't cried :( Lol next ep, it's Bathhouse!! And fanservice.. oh wait |
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| What an emotional episode. I wonder why was she crying. |
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| 5/5 I found this very sad episode, nice dialogues, are thoughtful, but not boring and not made me hate the professor. The father of an entity Yasaburou was really charismatic! * _ * Drawings and grandiose scenarios, there is still much to discover about the characters and principlai Kaisei the mysterious! XD Final rating that passes from 6 to 8/10! |
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scruffykiwi said: After watching this episode I finally clicked that the Humans (apart from Benten) are unaware that Tanuki are sentinent and can actually talk. The professor seemed to think that Yasaburou's performance was some parlour trick and that Benten could do the same. If that is true then I can see why the Tanuki see Benten with such fear as she is fully aware yet participates in this 'Friday Fellows' Yes it clicked for me as well. At least now I can understand that the humans are just normal humans doing what we all pretty much do. And this does actually make Benten look worst, though it looks like she might possibly feel regret and sadness for eating them, makes me wonder why she does it every year in the first place. But also there is the fact that she was essentially kidnapped by the master Tengu. However, the father can talk a lot of crap about accepting fate (and I'm okay with acceptance but not the way he actually encouraged the Fellow) and the son can talk about how he likes that Fellow who ate his father and has a crush on Benten, but at the end of the day it's obvious Tanuki love their family and can feel sadness so I don't understand how no negative feelings are coming in to play. It just seems a bit off to me. At this point I'm not quite sure what to make of Uchouten Kazoku... Think I'd better watch the rest before sorting how I feel about all of this. |
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| For all that is good in this world, that park scene was on a level unlike any other... I was absolutely breathless. This show deserves absolute applause. |
| Men always seem to think about their past before they die, as though he were frantically searching for proof that he truly lived. |
| What the heck! It's 6th episode (halfway into series) and only now i begin to actually like this anime. Things sure moves slowly there. |
| That first minute was so informative! It aswered a lot of quesion I had about Benten. I wonder why Benten was cryign in the end. Maybe she knows that she will eat Yasaburou and it's just a matter of time. Or she's sad that her life eas taken by that old man. I mean he did kidnap her when she was young. I'm glad the animeis starting to answer some questions. |
| My gawd this is the shit! What a brilliant episode. I was on verge of tears starting from the middle portion of the episode, until the very end. It was absolutely fantastic that we get to see Yasaburou interacts with his father's "killers". Souichirou was an amazing character himself too. |
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| ah, my feels- seriously, i'd be killing every single one in that damned club DX_ secondly- why is this anime so damn deep ;_;'?! |
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| I am really fascinated and moved by this episode. I do think that this is basicly a culture thing about ''being eaten'' and ''tasting good''. I really loved this episode, wow. Hotei is incredibly nice. |
| This episode was even more of those pesky answers I wanted. In the first 30 seconds of the episode it gives us the briefest rundown of Benten's past. And immediately her character like clicked into place for me. Why she's a human with powers of the tengu. Why she avoids the master now. And perhaps most importantly why Yasaburo still likes her so much. When he clearly resents her for eating tanuki at least deep down. Like what a revelatory cold start. I was quite impressed with how quickly it gave us necessary information we've been patiently waiting for. After a really cool scene on a pretty rooftop garden. As well as a nifty flashback to Benten's first night with the Friday Fellows. We even hear Papa Shimogamo's brave last words as he spoke to Hotei apparently. Yasaburo is charged with returning the drunk Professor back to his home. I don't get why he couldn't transform into something useful. Maybe because he was drunk. But he even gets a crucial assist from Kaisei who I'd really like to know more about soon. The real centerpiece of the episode though is a conversation between Hotei and Yasaburo about food. While munching on rice balls he explains his internal philosophy. Hotei loves and wants to try all food. He views being eaten (by tanukis in his own case of course) as far preferable to rotting away in the earth after you die. This is strange like really strange. I've seen character whose mantras stemmed from their love of food. But this is super weird. Yasaburo even calls him out on it. But I do find it interesting at the same time. And I think it's the only way to make his and Bentens love of tanukis and desire to eat them reconcilable. Well probably not the only way. These were two really great episodes. They answered a lot of my questions while leaving a few open for further exploration. Like why Benten's crying at the end. But every time they make that "I'm just a frog in a well" statement. All I can think of is "Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage." Like plays in my head every time. |
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SubscriberSun said: These were two really great episodes. They answered a lot of my questions while leaving a few open for further exploration. Like why Benten's crying at the end. But every time they make that "I'm just a frog in a well" statement. All I can think of is "Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage." Like plays in my head every time. I have been lurking your posts as you watch this wonderful series. I find your views of what's going on quite interesting :) 2 notes that I would like to point out. There is heavy use of the Japanese Shinto mindset when dealing with nature, life, and death. I'd try to keep that in mind. The other is the hint in the title of the anime itself; "family". The way I see it, Benten and Yasaburou are kindred spirits and both have a mantra of "I do what I want, when I want, how I want". Yet they are 2 sides of the coin living like that. After watching the show for a 3rd time recently, I have come to the conclusion that Benten's crying has double meaning. One is that she does feel bad for what she did to Yasaburou's family, and the other is that her way of life is not bringing her happiness. The story is written by Tomihiko Morimi and a common thread in his works seems to be about finding your direction in life. Yasaburou and Benten are both trying to forge that path while keeping that young/naïve "I do what I want" attitude; the difference is that Yasaburou has a family to support him. Benten does not. Its all very interesting to me when you treat Yasaburou and Benten as two diverging paths due to their character/mindset; where one is not finding happiness but has status, looks, powers (basically she has everything she "thinks" she wants), and Yasaburou is still working things out (the point of the series so I wont spoil :) ). |
AholePony said: Yasaburou and Benten are both trying to forge that path while keeping that young/naïve "I do what I want" attitude; the difference is that Yasaburou has a family to support him. Benten does not. Its all very interesting to me when you treat Yasaburou and Benten as two diverging paths due to their character/mindset; I like that a lot. It definitely feels important to keep in mind when trying to understand these two characters. Particularly Benten. Thanks for the reply. You've given me something to think about moving forward with this cool weird little series. |
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| I do want to see this series through to the end, because it's very well made, but damn if I can't help disagreeing with the message it appears to be pushing at times. I know this is probably demonstrative of my own immaturity, but I find it difficult to appreciate a work whose outlook I object to on a fundamental level. Nature is cruel, evil even, and I honestly don't want to find something that justifies it. I digress, for this is all quite apart from the question of the shows aesthetic quality, even if it affects my ability to perceive to some extent |
| "To eat is to love." I like this guy, but is this really how he's going to explain Benten having to eat him? That's gonna suck no matter what. "I'd rather be a tanuki's dinner than die in a hospital." Alright, this is more Monogatari-esque dialogue. Up until this point, the cryptic storytelling could have this show described as a Great Value Monogatari, but I really liked this episode. If this keeps up I might bump it up from a 7 to an 8. Maybe their dad wants all the brothers to live fulfilling lives as tanuki so that they have no regrets when they're eventually eaten by the Friday Fellows. The food chain is inevitable, so you might as well make the best of it, right? |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| This was a really deep episode about life. the feels. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| WTF???? Ok, some nice tips about life and stuff, but common... where are the emotions what has to feel the person who loves his fathers murderer? Tanuki or no tanuki...such crap. If you loved your father soooooooo much why you don't give a damn now? There is tooooooooooooo much wrong with this show. I can't take it serious anymore. |
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| Wonder why Benten is so sad.. her unpredictability is what makes her so alluring! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| I'm happy that Yasaburou admits that it's really weird how he acts towards Benten and the professor since his attidude was somthing that bothered me. Still have some problems with this anime but after this episode i have some hope that most of them will be cleared out. |
| The whole "we don't mind if humans eat us thing" is wearing thin. They need to move to another plot point. |
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| Wow, there was so much to unwrap, very interesting episode. Things add up, especially now that we learned more about the perspective of the tanuki and about Benten. Papa Shimogamu was based af. Nice conversation and quotes to boot. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| From what I understand about this show is that the setting is set that animals accepted the fact about getting eaten by humans as a normal thing. but still that Professor I still can't stand him for what he did to their father it's really sad. @Fmmatron correct me if I'm wrong. |
Raizel said: From what I understand about this show is that the setting is set that animals accepted the fact about getting eaten by humans as a normal thing. but still that Professor I still can't stand him for what he did to their father it's really sad. @Fmmatron correct me if I'm wrong. More or less. It's a lot about accepting, making the best out of life and (family) bonds. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
ElenirLachlagos said: Meh. It's getting pretty weird. The Prof's abit stangr. And sorry guys, Benten's a bitch. Benten is such a horrible entity. |
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