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Jan 11, 2013 4:27 AM

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DraconisMarch said:
InfiniteRyvius said:
If that was your conclusion, you probably shouldn't watch anything drama, because you don't know how to identify when it's poorly written and when it isn't. And LOL @ your talking about its "writing." Oh, you.

Since you've just gone for the "you don't know anything therefore what you've said is wrong" approach, I can only assume that you can't actually respond to what I've said. Calling me stupid is fine and all, but that doesn't make what I've said wrong does it?

It's almost as if you have nothing useful to say.

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The breakdown after the woman took the cat away, imo that happened because of the emotional buildup she experienced after all the horrible things she has received and those feelings just happened to explode when the cat was taken away

The mother and father part, you realized that her mother has tried going to many doctors even she thought that Kotoura is being possessed with evil spirit right? Probably, the parents just don't know that she has ability to read people mind or at least don't want to accept the fact that she has that kind of ability because if they accept it, their secrets will be revealed. That's why they (including her friends) consider Kotoura a threat

Quoted it from the other forum
"But there's a subtler message behind it, and that's the fact that the reason Kotoura-san is such an outcast is because of the gap that exists between people's desires and what they say and do. Of course no one likes to be reminded of that gap, and that makes Kotoura a threat."

And lastly she was just a child, she didn't realized that her ability is abnormal at first and thought that it was okay to let out all of her mind-reading works. And what could she do if her friends know her ability to read mind and end up hating her? If you find someone who can read your mind, what will you do? but, I can't deny that she purposely making herself being hated by her friends to make them get away from her and lacking restraint to not giving responses because she doesn't want the same thing happen again in the future.

Just my thought, can be right or wrong :)


You are right regarding the cat, I never said otherwise, it's just that he said it wasn't trying to be emotional which I thought was bizarre, the scene with the cat was quite clearly meant to cause emotion, they even put on the "this is the time to cry" music when it happened.

The mother, I do get what happened, I'm saying it's hard to swallow. I do think going to all those doctors etc was reasonable, I could easily see that happening. However, it's how it got that bad in the first place that I find questionable. The mother was originally shown as a loving parent, and we saw that Kotoura had the ability from a young age, she must have figured out her ability, how could she not have? This was a time when the family was all happy too, so it wouldn't have been a bitter pill to swallow, she wouldn't have had secrets to reveal (well, not major ones anyway). In any case, the way the episode portrayed it, it's as if they didn't figure it out until a few years later when their home life was on the rocks, and that's when they couldn't accept it. Why did it take them so long?


I should point out at this point that I don't hate the show, I do think it will be an enjoyable show, but it was just so heavy handed and clumsy in the first episode I found it took away from everything. I think it's one of the better shows to start airing this season, but I just think they could have done it so much better, rather than simply instructing the audience "feel sad now".
Jan 11, 2013 4:52 AM
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i'm just stun in all ways like pull biggest curve ball ever on it really no one saw this coming in any form til we just seen it oh my why this happen?!

meet Haruka Kotoura who one time life for her was good til everything went to Break the Cutie in all worst ways.

because she can read minds cause she lost everything from being bullied in school to even own parents don't want her anymore.

cause of suffer that Haruka carryover til now & then all change when she meet Manabe who bit perv & yet wow amaze at Haruka cause she save him from truck.

yet after learning bit of Haruka's past Manabe going side with her to be her friend.
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Jan 11, 2013 5:41 AM

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My favorite of the season so far.
Jan 11, 2013 6:19 AM

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This....is it....I have met my first great anime of year 2013..Nice to meet u..
Jan 11, 2013 6:21 AM

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Soooooo good episode.

Didn't expect something so good. Really looking forward to the next one.
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Jan 11, 2013 6:46 AM
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Make me thing of senjogahaara hitagi sama childhood ,Taiga and Ryuji from toradora and that ESPER lv5 girl which who can read mind and maniulate memory damn without Academy city ESP isn't well accept after all and i guess a lustful and powerful guy like araragi or the MC is suitable to save this girl
Jan 11, 2013 7:11 AM

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Actually really, really enjoyed this episode! Probably the only series this season that I'm actually looking forward to seeing more.
Jan 11, 2013 7:51 AM

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ApolloFortyNine said:
From the director of to love ru and the yuru yuris, and the writer of the yuru yuris, I sure as hell wasn't expecting that. 10/10, hoping the rest of the season turns out just as well.
What you failed at mentioning is this:
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director did this and DAMN! It was emotional TBH.

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Jan 11, 2013 8:01 AM
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I hope her mom gets sold into prostitution and her dad dies in a car crash.
Jan 11, 2013 8:14 AM
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Wow really good first episode, didn't expect that all
Jan 11, 2013 8:31 AM

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Best scene
Jan 11, 2013 9:05 AM

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I hope her mom gets sold into prostitution and her dad dies in a car crash.
Jan 11, 2013 9:09 AM
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that first part was just heart breaking wth. i really thought this is an all out drama anime lol.
Jan 11, 2013 9:21 AM

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The first anime series thet amde me go from crying to laughing in one second !

Don't talk to me about character development if Kaizuka Inaho or Slaine Troyard are in your favorites.
Jan 11, 2013 9:30 AM

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I honestly think this is going to be the best anime of the season.
Jan 11, 2013 10:00 AM

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I am extremely surprised by how much I Liked this. I'm glad I decided not to dismiss it because of the character designs.
Jan 11, 2013 10:06 AM

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I don't know if it is because Sasami and Vividred was somewhat disappointing at least for me, but this was a really nice surprise. Sure, the beginning was overly melodramatic, but I'm a sucker for PTSD moments, so I'm willing to overlook it. I kinda like Kotoura and the male lead isn't as bad as most are. Looking forward to the next episode! 4/5.

Kotoura is so moe (in the original meaning of the word).

Edit: I don't believe in violence (especially male on female), but I would organize a cultured dispute between my fist and the mother's face.
Jan 11, 2013 10:36 AM

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This Anime was unexpected good, glad i try watch the first episode.
Looking forward to the next episode :)
Jan 11, 2013 10:44 AM
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Oh man, I really sympathize with the character, it make me cry.
Jan 11, 2013 11:21 AM

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InfiniteRyvius said:
I should point out at this point that I don't hate the show, I do think it will be an enjoyable show, but it was just so heavy handed and clumsy in the first episode I found it took away from everything. I think it's one of the better shows to start airing this season, but I just think they could have done it so much better, rather than simply instructing the audience "feel sad now".
I agree with you on this, but for whatever reason, it just clicked with me. I recognize that many of the scenes were stupidly melodramatic/cliche: her mother drinking, her mother saying "I wish you were never born", her father meeting another woman at a hotel, her emotional collapse in the rain, etc. When I was watching those scenes though, the critical part of my brain was just shut off and that allowed me to enjoy them. I think that happened simply because I was expecting it to be a comedy and it wasn't, at first at least.

If this had been labelled drama, my drama senses would have been tingling and I probably would have been laughing instead of feels-ing. Interesting how that works.
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Jan 11, 2013 11:34 AM
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Worst and dumbest freaking parents I've seen, how can you not tell that your daughter could read minds after she said what you thought for years? But anyway the extremely sad beginning made the other half waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. Manage ftw, funniest guy I've seen in a while.
Jan 11, 2013 11:51 AM

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Brilliant opener, and I like how Manabe isn't one of those cliché MC's.
Ara ara.
Jan 11, 2013 11:53 AM

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All these feelings...

^ Why isn't this updating...
Jan 11, 2013 11:53 AM

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Dark horse of the season :D

Manabe is hilarious and pretty cool as a MC.
And Haruka is really cute when reacting to his stupidity. Esp with the BAKA hehe XD
Jan 11, 2013 12:07 PM

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Such sad way to begin and funny yet soft way to end this first episode. I am really having great hopes for this series.
Jan 11, 2013 12:15 PM

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I'm about half way through... I'm not liking it...
Will update my feelings when ep ends...

::EDIT::
REALLY FUCKING GOOD! I was pretty sure that they couldn't recover from the soul crushing first act but then... BOOM! Hilarity ensues! Maouyuu and Kotoura-san are gonna be good. I can guarantee that.

That is of course... unless they aren't.
HetlanJan 11, 2013 12:40 PM
When I go for the throat, I go straight for the juggler.
Jan 11, 2013 12:31 PM

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BL2W said:
Best first episode of the Winter season so far by a f**king long shot.


I totally agree with you!!
Jan 11, 2013 12:48 PM

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That first part really caught me off guard it was so emotional poor haruka having to endure so much then the 2nd part eases up due to the antics of Manabe it was really funny. I didn't expect it to be this good and I enjoyed it a lot.
Jan 11, 2013 1:02 PM

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Wow such a great way to start the series with the 1st episode. Having the emotional impact right at the beginning, then slowly oozing in the moments of comedy. Closing out the episode with extreme amounts of satisfaction.

This going to turn out to be one my favorites of this season at this rate ^^
Jan 11, 2013 1:19 PM

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SO when I started watching I expected shitty comedy. But what do I get? The most depressing shit I've seen in a long time in any anime. Holy shit the first half was intense. Damn those parents....

The comedy is still a hit or miss, but we'll see. But god damn the first half was incredible.
Jan 11, 2013 1:40 PM

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Episode 1 made me cry, rage, laugh AND smile!!! That's just so awesome!!!
O'Hai :D
Jan 11, 2013 1:53 PM

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This episode had me crying like a baby at the beginning :(
Jan 11, 2013 2:01 PM

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Wow, what the fuck? I did NOT expect this. This was not even on my radar. Huge surprise.
Jan 11, 2013 2:12 PM

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This anime made me depressed for the first half :O....def going to watch this one.
Jan 11, 2013 2:46 PM
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Well this was good! So another anime to follow ^^
Urusai! Urusai! Urusai!
Jan 11, 2013 3:23 PM

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Oh wow, didn't expect this with that art. The first half of this series was brutal lolol. I'm quite confused why the opening theme is like that though.

EDIT: "Synopsis: A school love comedy." Wow, so it's supposed to be a school love comedy with that first episode? LOL.
Jan 11, 2013 3:41 PM

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bastek66 said:
Best scene


HANDS DOWN.

The first ten minutes made me cry. Snot, tears and everything. That was super heavy, yet fantastic. I have a soft spot for cynical leads. The fact that this will turn into a rom-com interests me. o_O Can the show keep up its quality, I wonder? Maybe this will be like a darker Chuunibyou, with the whole rom-com twists popping up here and there. So far enjoying this episode a lot. The opening and ending are so full of moe.

I've also taken a liking for Manabe. He's a pervert (but what person hasn't had a few impulsive thoughts here and there? He's not super extreme compared to other pervs I've seen in anime). I won't blame him for being honest, lol. In general, he's very sincere and doesn't seem to have any secrets against others, considering how he hasn't shown one bad thought towards Kotoura through out the entire series. I would like to see more flaws in him so that there can be some sort of dynamic between Manabe and Kotoura later in the series (one could say that I hope to see mixes of drama and some comedy here and there, just like in this first episode).

I really hope these next 12 episodes are promising! I wouldn't mind the rom-com bit, as long as it doesn't go borderline in terms of episodic "moe" shenanigans like other 4-koma anime I've seen.

Lots of hope for this new series! Very refreshing compared to other shows airing this season.
Jan 11, 2013 3:55 PM

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better not show the mom ever again...god she pissed me off.

this is going to be a good show i can tell, did not see this show starting off like that, looked cheery and it did turn out that way( had a smile the whole time, after the whole depressing events). catchy OP and ED. good main characters, just don't show the mom again :D even though they will.
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Jan 11, 2013 3:57 PM
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it was a great episode in my opinion, i didn't think that it would start out like that. i don't think that many of us did, i found the transition and manabe's thoughts pretty weird, but nice. it made wonder if anybody has thoughts like that during my classes. the rest of the episode was enjoyable, i wonder how the interaction between kotoura and the rest of the class will develop.



on a side note kotoura looked more busty than usual in manabe's fantasy.
Jan 11, 2013 4:26 PM

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Post-Josh said:
InfiniteRyvius said:
I should point out at this point that I don't hate the show, I do think it will be an enjoyable show, but it was just so heavy handed and clumsy in the first episode I found it took away from everything. I think it's one of the better shows to start airing this season, but I just think they could have done it so much better, rather than simply instructing the audience "feel sad now".
I agree with you on this, but for whatever reason, it just clicked with me. I recognize that many of the scenes were stupidly melodramatic/cliche: her mother drinking, her mother saying "I wish you were never born", her father meeting another woman at a hotel, her emotional collapse in the rain, etc. When I was watching those scenes though, the critical part of my brain was just shut off and that allowed me to enjoy them. I think that happened simply because I was expecting it to be a comedy and it wasn't, at first at least.

If this had been labelled drama, my drama senses would have been tingling and I probably would have been laughing instead of feels-ing. Interesting how that works.

I forgot to turn the critic off.

I could have enjoyed it a whole lot more, but in the end, poor writing and heavy handed melodrama is poor writing and heavy handed melodrama, no matter how much I wish to ignore it.

I sadly think it's impossible for me to ignore flaws like that now, thankfully since it'll be all comedy from now on I imagine I'll start liking it.
Jan 11, 2013 4:31 PM

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Wow, my hopes for good interesting anime were kinda low for this season, but you can count this show in it. With Oreshura and Tamako I'm good for this season. I had a lot of emotions throughout this episode. The beginning was very sad but the ep ended in a very warm, soft and comedic way. The comedy is delightful and I can't wait until next week.

Too bad though that there aren't any good fansub groups picking this show up. Guess I have to stick with HorribleSubs for this anime.
Jan 11, 2013 4:32 PM

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I agree with the male protagonist, tears are a turn on.
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Jan 11, 2013 4:36 PM

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AOTS going by first episodes alone so far.

What I really liked was that we got all the important backstory for Kotoura done with straight away so we know what she is capable of and why she is the way she is.

Lots of anime, whether they are decent or not tend to have a strange character and not explain why they are like that until the last couple of episodes. This is a refreshing change.

Really enjoyed it. Kotoura is really cute and Im sure I will like her more and more as the season progresses.
Jan 11, 2013 4:37 PM

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Jeller said:
Episode 1 made me cry, rage, laugh AND smile!!! That's just so awesome!!!


It rode a lot of aspects of human emotion and did it so well.
Sorry, Shaft, you just got outdid big time this season.
Jan 11, 2013 4:55 PM

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This episode was the most stunning I've yet seen in this season :o
Jan 11, 2013 4:57 PM

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Seeing how horrible people can be honestly made me sick to my stomach. T^T

Seems like it'll be a pretty funny romance though, not sure if that's a let down or not though. >-<
Jan 11, 2013 5:16 PM

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I already can't wait for the next episode to come out.
Jan 11, 2013 5:26 PM

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holy crap..my heart wasn't ready for that only saw a PV for this so that was unexpected reminded me of the beginning of UP just Darker, mindreading an power to this day i would never want causes more harm then good

hope the rest of this is good doesn't seem like the drama is over since her bitch of a mom is still around judging from the OP.
Jan 11, 2013 5:34 PM

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OMG the beginning T____T Kotoura-san TwT. Everyone hating her. Friends, family( except for her grandfather) Even at her new school but... Yoshiisa will save her from her turmoil. I can't wait to see more episodes.
Jan 11, 2013 5:51 PM

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InfiniteRyvius said:
in the end, poor writing and heavy handed melodrama is poor writing and heavy handed melodrama, no matter how much I wish to ignore it.

Could you please be more specific and provide a simple list of issues? What I got from you so far is that it was not realistic and cliche.

And I think that it was perfectly fine considering the goal - to quickly (within half an episode of the entire show) build up the drama level to the max, reach the climax, and resolve, thus completely setting up the characters and the situation they are in. It really didn't need to be "smart" and realistic because the whole show is not about how one person becomes hated by his parents and the rest of the world, but rather enduring the everyday school issues given the specific properties of the main character. I also think that it was directed amazingly well, with perfect timing for the right angles and cuts, artistic colouring, and well executed drama and comedy parts.

I mean, in the end, the show or the episode is good because it is good, not because of some clever and non-cliche plot elements. Of course, I'd love this to be another penguindrum or something of that kind, but I think it never tried to be one. And it doesn't mean it's bad. It's just different. And the quality's waaaay above the average. Just read the responses above, people were crying, laughing, enraged, and smiling. Isn't it amazing? Really, I just don't get your concerns.
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