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wakka9ca said: There is a saying that bothers me in the meaning of this series's title:orbbie said: I so wanna know what her real deal is for selling arms. She already said it to Jonah in episode 1. It's for world peace. When he lets go, the world will end. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midgardsormr considering that the OP shows Koko behind a missile launch with God knowns what as ammo in it, I am starting to wonder of the series's title and what she said to Chinatsu. Jörmungand certainly is a monster itself of rather scary proportions as the myth mentions. |
| Why did Chinatsu wear panties the last time? --- She may have come to kill Koko and to be killed afterwards. She was expecting the existence of the sniper and took in that he wasn't near them. Since it was night and the place was enemy's territory, the distance to the sniper may have been shorter than 900 meters. But it would have taken hundreds of milliseconds to reach her excluding the time for the perception and the action. The amount of the time should have been enough for her to kill Koko just in front of her. That was the reason that she was surprised when her handgun was flipped from her hand before firing. (When she fell onto her knees, Johna wasn't able to be seen or scent near them somehow.) --- That might be the reason. She needed them for her decency. |
kuroneko99May 3, 2012 3:55 AM
| kind of dumb, but very entertaining |
| I'm not sure why people wanted Chinatsu to join Koko. There are far too many characters as is, and as of episode 4, the story is unable to support all of them. And anyway, I think Valmet's jealousy would overcome her ^_^ |
wakka9ca said: orbbie said: I so wanna know what her real deal is for selling arms. She already said it to Jonah in episode 1. It's for world peace. From the way chinatsu reacted I doubt that's the real reason. She could've easily lied to him to keep him at ease or something. |
| Too bad. She could have been a nice addition to the team. |
| RIP Orchestra. They really lived up to its name. Such a pity that Chinatsu got killed. How that American became a CIA is a wonder to me. Did he skip his training or something? That unprofessional act of his was unnecessary |
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| The battle with those guys as in the last episode was a little ridiculous(please tell me the car was bulletproof) and why Jonah or anyone else lets Chinatsu get away in the first place is kind of a mystery to me but other than it was quite good and certainly an improvement from the last bad episode that was full of that silly gun battle. Points for that guy getting killed like that instead of some big moment and for making us thing the girl was going to join Koko but then killing her(this isn't Naruto). Hagoromo Gitsune? |
| Ok, heads up, I'm gonna troll: Ah...! I can't stand it!! This is so shitty! It's like a shoot out fanservice, and a bad one at that. Th only goodness so far were those few seconds of sniper heart and headshot. After that, I couldn't stand the rest of the episode. Gun language + crazy women with weird fetishes + little kid who doesn't get killed running into a gunfire from a "supposedly professional assassin" + shitty forced comedy = Jormungand. More like Jokemundanegand. When it starts getting the minimal amount of interesting, it ruins again. Why the heck am I even watching this?? So Koko has assasins behind her all the goddamn time and she is always being saved by others. What about her skill? Supposed to be a surprise? I can't bother waiting. To all you action fans, enjoy. :) As for me, Dropped. |
| _____ _ _ ______ Within pain, there is desire. _____ _ _ ______ |
| Amazing!! I liked Chinatsu though. She had more than sufficient skills to be part of Koko's, but oh well, it's fine in its way. |
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| Chinatsu was an interesting character but I'm glad she died. Great episode, far more better than the previous one. P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTJAQpJBdc |
| What a lousy car chase/shooting, the one on the first episode was better. O_o Please snipe that arrogant CIA maggot in the next coming episodes, or even better have Valmet gut him a little so he could die slowly. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
So, it looks like Chinatsu came from a well do family, after Orchestra went berserk in the theater which Commando (Chinatsu) girl's parents died she was taken by Jaws (Orchestra) as his pupil to which she develops "STOCKHOLM SYNDROME."  For those of you who don't know, "Stockholm Syndrome" is a psychological disorder where the victim starts to sympathize and even willing fully joins up with his/her captor, and the Orchestra arc is one good example. Man, I always wanted to shoot an opera singer. |
Pyr0 said: Wow, what a brilliant episode! Still definitely the top of this season, I find it hard to believe that they could possibly mess up such an epic anime anymore :) Still going full 10/10 and I'm expecting the same from the future episodes too Worthy ending for the Orchestra arc. I liked how they created some background for the duo, and it was enough as it was. Sure, they could've dwelled deeper into the background but this was enough. It's kind of sad, but the ending was as it should be for this series, r.i.p. Chinatsu ♥ Specially the ending part of the episode was really good, the chat between Koko and Chinatsu. I'm dying to know what Koko said about her reason for selling weapons, but I guess it would've been a bit disappointing if they blurted it out just like that xP Now it's even more interesting ^^ Koko is indeed a scary woman... and AWESOME!!! What Chinatsu saw in Koko when she was dying... just wow :P So far every character in the series has been badass & awesome ^^ Koko, Lehm, Jonah, Valmet, Everyone!!! Looking forward to how things progress with Scarecrow and CIA :) Now there seems to be some persistent enemy for Koko and her team, even 'dangerous' for her business ;) Now... I'll just somehow have to survive another week without Koko until next episode~ And not to mention the badass gunfights and explosions that just make you replay them over and over again. I was hoping for Chinatsu to join Koko and her team, after Koko invited her but no way that could have happened after her shishou was killed by one of them. I'm totally in love with snipers and sniper rifles so Lutz is my favorite <3 And of course the others on the team. For what Scarecrow did to Koko I want to punch him back! Seems like a very unreliable American. |
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| BEAUTIFUL episode! Best one so far. The sniper shots were done perfectly *-* but why does Chinatsu die?! I liked her D: |
| did anyone else like that psycho girl? |
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TenshiShi said: BEAUTIFUL episode! Best one so far. The sniper shots were done perfectly *-* but why does Chinatsu die?! I liked her D: Koko gave her a chance but she rejected her. Anyways they have been loyal with the manga so far, hope they keep up the good work! |
| i wonder wat koko said, and more importantly, i wonder if jonah heard it. |
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| Aww, I liked Chinatsu. Going commando makes her aim better = best logic ever. Strangely, all the side-characters I like these days seem to keep on dying. |
| Blaser R93 Tactical X.X Ouchie! |
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jakeisquite said: wakka9ca said: orbbie said: I so wanna know what her real deal is for selling arms. She already said it to Jonah in episode 1. It's for world peace. From the way chinatsu reacted I doubt that's the real reason. She could've easily lied to him to keep him at ease or something. Nope. From my experience as an anime watcher I am pretty positive that's the reason. Koko is an advocate of world peace. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
| Episode redeemed itself and then some after episode 3. Tho the chase scene once again was stupid. All those bullets at the range and nobody got shot? huh? Especially considering that these are basically hitmen. From then on tho the episode was gold. Pretty fu*ked up how Chinatsu got involved with her partner. For the first time Koko was alone(at least she thought she was) and we see her panic. Some nice koko/Jonah moments again along and the ending with Koko/Chinatsu was great too. I wonder what she whispered to Chinatsu. Oh and Chinatsu, you will be missed:( |
DreddMay 2, 2012 5:02 PM
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| The 1st sniper kill was AWESOME! HEADSHOT! F*** Yea! And the "no pants" things was funny too... That was the best episode so far. 5/5 :) |
ricardocscMay 2, 2012 5:28 PM
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| Nice headshot at the beginning, you have to admit it. The shootouts were again not believable, definitely needs to improve as someone mentioned it before. Orchestra died just like that, don't know if I like the way he died but we will probably see a lot more of this kind of death. Koko got hit by Scarecrow (ASSHOLE) right after her father was mentioned, guess she doesn't like him, just look at her eyes in that scene. She doesn't like the thought of not being able to move, I think that's worth mentioning. Some interesting dialogue between her and Jonah, she really likes him and it's strange how much she clings to him since right from the beginning. Koko thinks it's disgusting how people care more about weapons than the future of their children, is that really the only reason why she cares so much about Jonah, I wonder? Koko told Chinatsu why she is selling arms but we couldn't hear it. After listening to the dialogue with Jonah I think she believes that arms dealer are the only ones who can bring change to the world and she mentioned it before that it's for world peace. Now, the question is why Chinatsu reacted like that. I guess the thing about world peace is right but the method Koko is thinking of is the real shit, and that's what made Chinatsu scared. I bet it will include a lot and I mean a LOT of people dying. Someone mentioned that he wonders how Jonah is going to react after hearing her reason, I did not think of that at all but it's really interesting, I totally missed the possibility. Now it seems really possible that Jonah and Koko will face each other sometime. Chinatsu, I really liked her and I thought we would see her later in the future but no, she had to come and be killed by Lehm, bastard, no is going to avenge you EVER. I didn't notice that it was Jonah who shot the pistol, good thing I read it here. |
| Why'd they have to kill off Ms. Commando. Would've been cool to have her team up with Koko. |
| First of all, I wonder how many pissed off husbands have wanted to take that head shot after being dragged to the opera. AWESOME firefight. LOL and after the firefight all KoKo wanted to know was why she wasn't wearing panties. ...I would like to point out that not all or even most Americans are not stuck up, asshole, pricks like Scarecrow. I was more pissed about Jonah being hit than I was KoKo. Cute conversation between KoKo and Jonah. Koko brought up some great points about guns. Say what you will, but guns save lives just as they take them. ...That said, if there is a kid around, keep guns the hell away from them! Confined to quarters sound like a set-up to anyone else? LOL and once again, THAT is what Koko wanted to know. Too bad she had to die. I don't THINK Jonah heard Koko's reason for being an arms dealer but who knows... |
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| Awesome as always. Wonder what Koko said :D |
| wow the BOTH died eiser than i expected! |
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| i wasn't expecting both of em to go out so fast in fact i was kinda thinking Chinatsu would come back later on as a even crazier bitch oh well she was interesting while she lasted. and we also now have a hardcore CIA agent after Koko wonder who two guys in the preview are. |
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| excellent episode - i was fairly unimpressed with the last one, but this one had great action, humor, and tragedy all mixed together in a perfect way - hope this continues! |
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| I don't have much to say since I've read it already so all my hype had gone to the chapters. HOWEVER! Yeeeess~!!!!! Chequi next week! Woo!! But it's about Jonah's past. Don't feel like watching it. Already read it. Oh well. Will watch. Gimmeh moar animated Valmet. Can't wait for her arc. END OF SEASON Y U NO HERE YET?! |
| I feel like this makes less sense each episode. Chinatsu was obviously so shocked by the death of her master, that she immediately chased down Koko... to chat with her?? That made no sense if you ask me. She got over it way too fast considering she was willing to chat with her like that. Much more realistic reaction would be going on a rampage ignoring the sniper. And WTF about that CIA agent showing off?? I can see MANY criminals that would want his head if he appeared in media or official papers. Even saying his nickname? And how the hell it is possible that he can't keep his cool and rages because of something that is "normal"? Seriously, what powerful arm dealers don't have contacts in police or government! That felt very stupid for a CIA agent. Also, Koko lost some points from me in this ep. The Chinatsu hug was plain weird, she would have been much cooler to just let her fall and wtf was that thing about mortality of children? Moral lessons in anime like this? Not about something that every sane person realises and from a character that was supposed to be cool? That seriously let me down. Sorry, I don't find arms dealers complaining about mortality of whoever awesome, quite the contrary. Aside from that, very nice episode. I liked how Chinatsu viewed Koko (medusa like) and I wodner what she told her. |
SuiNoByakkoMay 3, 2012 2:28 PM
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| Although Chinatsu was an interesting character, I didn't really care that she died, but I at some point I actually thought she might join them. I seriously love Koko and Jonah interactions. Next episode we see Jonah crying..hoping its a good episode. This child has more emotions than I thought he did, which is not bad at all. Like everyone else, I want to know what Koko told her, if it wasn't said out loud, then it may be, because we haven't really heard her real reason. |
I am a sucker for romance!!!! ] |
| The soundtrack is just amazing. |
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| Nice episode, the shark teeth guy died, I was happy with that. I expected the crazy one to join Koko's army, unfortunately didn't happen. The American guy thinks he's cool, he'll probably be the next enemy. |
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| ^ haha he is a CIA, i don't think he will be a bad guy, but he will be a "comic relief" throughout the episode. but I do agree that he look like a bad guy lol. 33orion77 said: ViciousOne said: For all this talk about this show not being deep, maybe you aren't thinking deep enough or maybe lacking the background to understand why the intellectual discussion are so on the mark. It doesn't surprise me that there is rarely any discussion about the intellectual side of Jormungand. It flies over the head of most of the show's target audience. Then please enlighten us with your intellect and show us the intellectual side of Jormungand. Saying things like we are too dumb to understand doesn't prove anything there is a part that really astound me during the show. For example the part that Nelson immediately ask Lutz to snipe the weapon when Lutz is to chicken to kill Chinatsu. His fast decision could had save his teammate. Lehm also did ask them to retreat since he knows that Lutz won't be able to kill Chinatsu. I am impress at Lehm for understanding the squad's thought and emotion because small mistake can cost human live . I know this small matter may not be big deal for you guys, but it is enough for me to say "wow they are pro ". Well, Each audience have their own way to think how a show is epically presented =P |
| Jormungand is like a Michael Bay anime. I don't even know what possesses me to keep on watching it every week. |
| That was impressive. Wasn't too into the whole gun fight theme for this series personally, never have been into that kind of action, but the drama aspect was good. I still like the action too, that's saying something considering I have never been into shooting, but I don't love it quite yet so this is a good way to offset things and keep my interest. |
| Watching the last sniping scene again, I noticed that there were four bangs. The producers may have intended like this: two bangs were for flipping the handgun and penetration of Chinatsu's body and the rest two bangs were gunfire with a delay. If Jonah hit her handgun, she should have heard only three bangs. It seems Lehm (the sniper) used M24 SWS from the looking of the rifle. http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/Firearms/Sniper%20Rifles/M24.aspx Although I thought rifles have low rate of fire in general, following site says it has rate of fire of 20 rpm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M24_Sniper_Weapon_System This means you need only(!?) 3 seconds for the next shot. (Really? Anyway I think it is impossible to snipe a target in such a rate with bolt-action.) Well then, why he needed two shots? The possible explanation is he intended to neutralize enemy weapon first to reduce the risk and finish comes next. But if I were he who has such a skill, I would shoot her head: one shot one kill. And I prefer the first twisted idea: |
| When Koko caught a glimpse of Chinatsu's cooch she seemed mesmerized by it lol. Also sad she was killed. she would have been a perfect addition to Koko's harem team. The way her master died took me by surprise. He seemed like the type of S.O.B who has a million lives, so for him to be taken out so swiftly was very unexpected. |
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| Darn, just when I find another lovable crazy chick she gets killed off. The episode was executed well, loved every moment of it 5/5. |
| Best episode so far. Too bad Chinatsu will killed off. |
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