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NoctisNimbus said: So are the people who are confused about the plot/setting really paying attention? Did you get bad subs? I don't see what's so difficult about it. These first two episodes so far have mainly focused on trying to set up the characters and setting and I think they've done a decent job on that so far I thought it was a really good/fun episode and I'm looking forward to the next. Exactly. I didn't think that there was anything uncomprehensible in this episode at all. |
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| I'm trying really hard to understand wtf is going on....I'm so lost x.x |
| Okay the strip scene in the classroom...oh my god. Wtf sort of school are they running LOL. Also are sensors really necessary..? He only touched her boobs..big deal. Not like he pulled her shirt off and did it e_e Man..anime these days are getting ridiculous with what they decide to censor...I'm feeling a little panicked for future animes. These aren't Saturday morning cartoons, people. Aside from that, the episode was alright. |
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| They're really trying to squeeze in too much info in a single episode at least thats what i thought |
| Still no action huh !! Oh well I guess that groping scene was good enough !! |
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| It's not hard to understand... It's also not hard to see that it's not that good lol. I'll stick it out... it's interesting at least. |
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| Toori sure carries an interesting philosophy with him. The teacher is great as ever and the bgm hasn't totally disappeared yet! I am satisfied. |
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| Stripping, a sex change and boob fondling, that's about all I remember from what I just watched. Can't say this series is off to a good start, but I guess I'll give it another episode to make a verdict. |
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| So, what is this story about again? I've watched 2 episodes and still don't get anything at all .. The only few things that I remember are poring-like creature, the naked flying dude, the main protagonist grope some boobs and some oversized boobs. |
Orix said: I'm appalled at the sheer number of people who give up so easily at a series that forces the viewer to use their heads a little. Yeah, tits are very deep and complex. I learned that in EVA which is arguably the deepest show known to man.  |
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| This is fucking terrible. When is Sunrise gonna make good shows again? |
| Thanks to MorningGlory, I think I understand the background more now. Though I am still confused in some parts of it being that there are so many parts to this history. There are still way too many names to remember as they added even more characters in this ep with the leaders and stuff. So I think that the Horizon lookalike that tends to shop or w/e is named P-01 and is an automated doll? And she's the one that Toori is going to confess to. As to who Horizon is, I guess that'll come later. Still alotta character / history backgrounds left, this massive info dump is gunna continue I think. Best thing about this anime is still all the cute girls and random stoofs that Toori does. Lol groping Neito's boobs before she realizes whats going on and declaring no bra, this guy is a win. And that Masazumi girl lost her boobs but she's still a girl right? Since she said she was getting ready for sex change surgery but it got canceled before it happened. |
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Orix said: I'd agree with the sentiment, but the problem is that it's not necessarily forcing its viewer to use their heads simply because it's complex; it's forcing its viewers to use their heads because the storytelling is atrocious. "Show, don't tell," is the relevant phrase. Info-dumping expository is hardly ever the best option, and it's uncommon for it to be even a good option.I'm appalled at the sheer number of people who give up so easily at a series that forces the viewer to use their heads a little. Here in Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon, I really feel like the background story could be shown, rather than merely told. It's an interesting background (and the reason I'm trying to watch this show), but, so far, we haven't really experienced it. Add in the distracting high-school hijinks (despite how unusual and amusing Aoi Toori may be) and it's hard to get a sense for where the story is taking place and what is actually going on. NoctisNimbus said: I have gotten very little idea what's going on from just the episodes without reading and rereading synopses, but the subs I saw were poorly edited and at least a little inaccurate. Without a doubt, if there were any nuances in the dialogue, then they were utterly destroyed in that translation.So are the people who are confused about the plot/setting really paying attention? Did you get bad subs? I don't see what's so difficult about it. These first two episodes so far have mainly focused on trying to set up the characters and setting and I think they've done a decent job on that so far I might look for better subs and rewatch the first two episodes, but the execution alone seems so bad that I'm not sure if accurate, fluent translations will make this show any better. I find that I don't care in the least about any of the characters except the crazy teacher, Makiko Oriotorai (?), and the rather stoic Student Council Vice President, Honda Masazumi. Furthermore, as far as I can tell, nothing of any real importance has happened yet. Sure, "It's just introducing the setting and characters," you might say. But I just don't feel like I've really been introduced to either. |
ZetaAspectOct 12, 2011 7:35 PM
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IZUMI64 said: 2 eps and still dunno what's going on... bad start for this series. Glad I'm not the only one... |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| INCOHERENCE AND TITS: THE ANIME. |
| wow, this series is still confusing and I have no idea what's going on but it's still rather entertaining. the Main char is a cool dude, he just seems like a troll. he actually stripped and got to feel some boobs. nice. err that one girl confuses me, so she was going to have a sex change, and lost her boobs but then changed their mind. but again they wear boys clothes. uh wtf? are they a girl or what? it was confusing and not cool. |
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| The real plot won't start till EP.4 if anyone is confused. Alll we got was so far was background information stuff we don't really need to know. |
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| No I can't take anymore of this show please noo... I promised not to drop anything ever again... shit |
| tfw no gf tfw i keep getting the banhammer on here tfw Koleare keeps banning me every other day tfw I'm misunderstood by le mod |
| Wow, this is a terrible show. |
| .... I don't really sure what so complex the show that you all complaining about.The story is trying to piece together now and its haven't shape up yet. So far the main plot, is all about Toori wanting to confess his love to Horizon. Which is also mention from last episode as well.. Other sub plot will later join to the main plot after a few episode .here is the following sub plot. - Masazumi's investigation of "the path of regret" (後悔通り) - the arrive of Azuma in Musashi - The import of Musashi from Mikawa is more than export this few days - the arrival of K.P.A italia ship ( they did not explain, so you don't have to scratch your head on this) - Sensei want to shoot some fire cracker to make the people happy - Sakai meeting his old friend... If you are confuse of the world setting, then you just re-watch ep1 during the ed song begin. I know the world setting is a bit hard to grasp, but that mean its not some generic world setting you watch everyday. the world setting is like "history overlapping the same history" , so what will the problem involve in and how they gonna solve it. |
MorningGloryOct 13, 2011 3:17 AM
| Dropping a big clue for everyone who does not know how to research: Masazumi Honda is supposed to be male, but ends up female, and thus, cannot inherit the position his father Masanobu Honda was unable to acquire. There has also been mentions of the Nanboku-cho Wars, which happened in history as well. Take note that whatever they are doing right now is recreating history, so expect key figures from Japanese and world history to show up in the next few episodes. |
OrixOct 13, 2011 10:48 PM
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| This is the second worst use of exposition I have ever seen. |
Wasabi said: Not really sure what to think of this. There's just so much shit happening all at once and a bunch of characters just being thrown around. |
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| This show is a mess (as expected from the director of the world-class, highly regarded Dragonaut!) but I like it. If that means I have shit taste than so be it. I liked this episode more than the first one, and well... I like Toori. |
| yes, this is quite retarded lol. Concentrate on the plot, concentrate.... |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Kerozinn said: what the fuck did i just watch? i cant even remember what i just saw in that episode except breast foddling! ..time to drop this peace of shit.. I agree. They're tossing too much information at us. |
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| When will the infodumping stop? This is handled so badly. |
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| still have no idea what the fuck im watching |
| Lol, the comments in this thread are pretty amusing. I'm not going to lie and say I know everything that is going on, but I think I'm going to keep watching because for some strange reason I'm finding this pretty entertaining as confusing as it may be. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| This show is one of the worst things I've ever seen. Anime Cliches: The Animation would be a better title. Also I really doubt that accurate subs are going to magically make the massive infodump more comprehensible. |
| Trolling show is trolling :/ |
| I am dropping this. It makes no sense and I don't want to sit through the entire first season just for it to get serious. |
| 2 more episode of information spamming as far as I've heard, after that stuff will get good. This episode wasn't as good as the last one, but still had some great moments. |
I almost never read discussions after I made my post, if you want to reply PM me or post on my profile page. |
| It's unbelievable how much info they throw at you, it's pissing me off and I hate the smartasses here. |
| I guess im one of the few really enjoying this, i cant stop laughing at anything toori does. |
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| Should I even bother with the plot at this point? The characters' interaction and fan service seems to dominate the show. They're pretty mediocre however. The animation and art are top-notch though. Otherwise, I'd drop this in a heartbeat. |
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| I was thinking it would be a nice anime...but really the 2 ep I watched it is pretty bad, I hate perverted characters...will try some more. |
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| I tend to like dialogue heavy anime, however this is just making no sense at all. |
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| Ironic how I picked this up in hopes of cooling off from the End of Evangelion. My mind is reeling again, woooow. I don't even think the infodumping is the problem for me, but the combination of awkwardly phrased explanations (probably subs I'm watching) and the heavy terminology is making it extremely difficult to follow. I rarely have to pause to read subs but I can't even remember how many times I had to pause this episode. I have a vague idea about the world building and plot so far but hoping things start to make sense. I don't want to be spoonfed but likewise I don't want to reach episode 13 and be like "wait...what happened?" As for Tori, the only thing I followed 100%, his fondling strikes again! I wonder what the significance of the confession is and who Horizon is (or was). Edit: Rewatched the explanation scenes dubbed. Made much more sense with what little I got from the subs already. This seems like a really promising show but I'm going to really have to pay attention. The one time I'll give props to the dub, even if if I felt the characters sounded lifeless. |
ZekkenshinApr 21, 2014 2:58 PM
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| I dunno about you guys, but I thought this episode was pretty funny. |
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| Another great episode, quite lovely character development with of course a good portion of comedy! Let's see what's next :D |
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| Just found this anime lol, the first episode was rlly funny and cool and then this episode was liek wat o.0 not so sure where this is going but i hope it gets better and i love the ninja guy! |
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| Damn. He fondled another girls bewbies! I really like this MC and he's even voiced by Jun Fukuyama No action this time but hopefully we see some soon |
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| They made him strip?ahaha lol what an awesome class xD That was the most awesome love letter I have ever seen LMAO |
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